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KKS
6th October 2017, 09:40
Wait for Mads ;)

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Mads on softs too?

tommeke_B
6th October 2017, 09:40
so long with your parity behavior, right? Nasty as NOT

Sorry. It's just funny to see people who follow a sport for a long time, defend their opinions here very hard, then asking if they're going to use tarmac tyres for 9kms of tarmac on a 40km stage... :D Not going to do it again. ;)

itix
6th October 2017, 09:40
Sunninen faster than Lefebvre... Seriosuly Lefebvre do the decent thing and hand the keys to someone talented.

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 09:40
Why?

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in Argentina and Sardegna for example, he did a couple of fast times and then rolled.

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 09:44
Good time for Ostberg again, alltough he is complaining about a lot of dust in the car, barely seeing anything

Mirek
6th October 2017, 09:44
Greensmith already out?

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 09:46
Greensmith already out?
Yes, unfortunally he stopped in stage 1

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 09:48
Neuville and Ogier at same pace for the moment in stage 3

KKS
6th October 2017, 09:50
Wait for Mads ;)

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I wait enough. Nothing changed :D

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 09:50
Tanak fastest again on first split on the long one

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 09:54
Neuville now 3,4 slower than Ogier

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 09:57
Ogier fastest on second split, even faster as Tanak

KKS
6th October 2017, 09:57
Neuville now 3,4 slower than Ogier
Ogier very fast on 2nd split and tarmac only on 3rd

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:00
Neuville loosing 6,2 sec now

dupanton
6th October 2017, 10:03
Greensmith already out?

Broken steering

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:03
Hänninen best opening split

seb_sh
6th October 2017, 10:04
Ogier is looking strong in the second half of Terra Alta.

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:05
Neuville now loosing 10,1

KKS
6th October 2017, 10:05
Hänninen best opening split
Something strange around there. After two stages at pace around 0.6-0.7sec/km and than faster 1split at SS3

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:06
Something strange around there. After two stages at pace around 0.6-0.7sec/km and than faster 1split at SS3

Could be road cleaning. Lappi is also fast on that split.

dupanton
6th October 2017, 10:06
Neuville on softs, his tyres are probably gone...

er88
6th October 2017, 10:07
Neuvilles championship not looking good if he can't react to this on the next loop.

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wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:08
Neuville lost 14,6 seconds, not good at all

jparker
6th October 2017, 10:09
well, the soft tire gamble by Neuville didn't work I guess.

er88
6th October 2017, 10:11
Looks like a Seb masterclass here.

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AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:11
Ogier is a master at preserving tyres and this is where that skill makes the difference.

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:12
Ogier is showing he is master in tyre choice and preserving them

KKS
6th October 2017, 10:13
Evans feel not good at tarmac section. 12sec lost there

tomhlord
6th October 2017, 10:15
Ogier is a master at preserving tyres and this is where that skill makes the difference.

Unbelievable performance.

tomhlord
6th October 2017, 10:15
Think the DMACKs have worn out!

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:15
Mikkelsen now fastest on split 2

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 10:16
Great job by Ogier despite opening the road this morning.

tomhlord
6th October 2017, 10:16
Good shout, he could do well here.

BigWorm
6th October 2017, 10:18
Deffo wrong tyre choice to go full softs. Still another loop of the stages left to repair the damage.

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:18
Meeke flying! 5,3 seconds faster at split 2

er88
6th October 2017, 10:18
Jesus Meeke. Slow down :D

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wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:19
What a split by Meeke:eek:

KKS
6th October 2017, 10:20
He on soft.. so relax.... it will be massive time lose at the end

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:20
Lappi has spinned? 29 seconds back...

itix
6th October 2017, 10:21
Expensive rebuild for Citroen coming up in 3... 2... 1...

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:22
Mikkelsen on same time as Ogier on split 3

tommeke_B
6th October 2017, 10:23
Amazing performance from Ogier, we would almost forget he's opening the road... ;)

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:24
Camilli and Veiby have finished SS1, but no match for Suninen's time

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:25
Wowh Ostberg:eek:

jparker
6th October 2017, 10:25
Will Mikkelsen lead the rally soon?

Rallyper
6th October 2017, 10:26
Will Mikkelsen lead the rally soon?

No Ostberg. :)

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:27
Where is Meeke's split?

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:27
Meeke not moving on live maps?

Edit: he is moving now and slower on split

er88
6th October 2017, 10:27
Great pace from Andreas

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er88
6th October 2017, 10:28
Meeke stopped?

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KKS
6th October 2017, 10:28
No. Meeke running

dupanton
6th October 2017, 10:29
Lappi with brake problems
Tanak got a false puncture warning. Are tyre pressure sensors allowed?

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:29
Meeke is running on the live maps

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:29
Mikkelsen best time sofar

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:29
Now Meeke's split came, he's 2,2 secs slower than Ogier. Mikkelsen made the fastest time!

er88
6th October 2017, 10:29
Meeke lost chunk of time

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KKS
6th October 2017, 10:30
Soft tyres. Only I can say about Meeke pace at the end.

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:30
Ostberg still two seconds faster on split

René
6th October 2017, 10:31
Tired tyres for Meeke ?

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 10:32
Hyundai buying in Mikkelsen working already.

er88
6th October 2017, 10:35
Meeke did well not to lose even more time.

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wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:36
Ostberg slower as Mikkelsen on final split

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:38
1-2 lead for Norway. When was the last time?

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 10:39
SS3 Terra Alta 1 Mikkelsen:
“Clean stage, did some changes to the car before this one, feeling more and more at home!”

jparker
6th October 2017, 10:39
No Ostberg. :)

:) very close

itix
6th October 2017, 10:39
Norwegian 1-2. When did that last happen? (genuine question...)

Edit, funny, me and Antti had the same question at the same time!

wwbroe
6th October 2017, 10:40
Norwegian 1-2. When did that last happen? (genuine question...)

That's a good question, must been a while...:)

er88
6th October 2017, 10:43
Well, Thierry is bang in trouble now for the championship. Possibly the biggest loop of stages coming up this afternoon in his career to date. Can't wait to see how he responds

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AL14
6th October 2017, 10:46
So where are those 70% chances? Lol

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:46
Well, Thierry is bang in trouble now for the championship. Possible the biggest loop of stages coming up this afternoon in his career to date. Can't wait to see how he responds

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Probably going with hard tyres this time.

tommeke_B
6th October 2017, 10:54
Probably going with hard tyres this time.

I think everyone will be on hard tyres this afternoon, as the temperature goes up.

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 10:54
Kopecky losing some time on SS3, Suninen is already 51 seconds faster. Wait...could it be because he's catching Serderidis?

itix
6th October 2017, 10:54
Kopecky lost a lot of time now...
Arai is relatively impressive I must say.

Edit.... and again.
I spoke too soon, Arai looks to have stopped in the stage

jparker
6th October 2017, 11:05
So where are those 70% chances? Lol

Are you going to do the estimates after each SS? You missed SS1 and SS2.

MartijnS
6th October 2017, 11:06
We are at about 33km into Terra Alta and Kopecky was really close after Serderidis yes :)

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 11:12
Veiby stopped? Him and Camilli were the only ones staying at Suninen's pace (although not for WRC2 points)

EDIT: just first split missing

AL14
6th October 2017, 11:22
Are you going to do the estimates after each SS? You missed SS1 and SS2.

I never did estimates, he did. He said he had 70% chance of win the title and in a rally he is obliged to win he is 7th so far. Not a position you espect from a 70% chanced champion.

Mintexmemory
6th October 2017, 11:27
Well, Thierry is bang in trouble now for the championship. Possibly the biggest loop of stages coming up this afternoon in his career to date. Can't wait to see how he responds

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With Ogier within range of the top 2 and tarmac to come my money is on him. I've said all year Australia will be a dead rubber, now maybe WRGB too!

AnttiL
6th October 2017, 11:35
Camilli now took the RC2 lead from Suninen by 14.4 seconds. He has progressed a lot during the season, also practicing a lot by driving through all the rallies.

Mirek
6th October 2017, 11:37
Kopecky losing some time on SS3, Suninen is already 51 seconds faster. Wait...could it be because he's catching Serderidis?

Unfortunately yes... and he said they asked for having bigger time gap but without success.

N.O.T
6th October 2017, 11:43
3 stages and the potato dog still running ??? impressive ... maybe he waits for the super specials to act like a potato dog.

Andre Oliveira
6th October 2017, 12:00
Now i am lost. Who is potato dog NOT?

er88
6th October 2017, 12:06
With Ogier within range of the top 2 and tarmac to come my money is on him. I've said all year Australia will be a dead rubber, now maybe WRGB too!Think you'll be right. Can see Neuville pushing too hard to try regain some time and crashing out.

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EstWRC
6th October 2017, 12:09
Too soon to put places for drivers. Only three stages completed.

rage82
6th October 2017, 12:13
Gus Greensmith with front left damage.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171006/a287b5d2726eda6cee903ce77a0148a6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171006/d27b42db6a89cb528b3db00b0be2ead5.jpg

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KKS
6th October 2017, 12:17
Sunninen might make a mistake on last sector of SS3. Cuz he lost 22,4sec there.

KKS
6th October 2017, 12:29
Meeke soft tyre after SS3:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLc5KqYW4AA_QHf.jpg

jparker
6th October 2017, 12:30
3 stages and the potato dog still running ??? impressive ... maybe he waits for the super specials to act like a potato dog.

The more you talk, the more irrelevant you look and sound.

wia5958
6th October 2017, 12:36
Now i am lost. Who is potato dog NOT?

I pressume its aimed at meeke as he is irish. Tasteless racism to be expected from not as usual

EstWRC
6th October 2017, 12:45
He means neuville

er88
6th October 2017, 12:52
I pressume its aimed at meeke as he is irish. Tasteless racism to be expected from not as usualIt was Neuville who he was calling the Potato dog in the previous event. Let's not make this into something it isn't (even though if you had no idea who he was on about - which you obviously didn't - it's easy to assume it could be Meeke).

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Indreq
6th October 2017, 12:59
Tänak vs Neuville tires

https://twitter.com/viljarvoog/status/916249858889211904

pantealex
6th October 2017, 13:01
Yes, that's clear, but they don't bother with asphalt tires, right?

Do you know word RULES ?

Shortly: They must use 15" tyres in gravel, only 2 compains available, neither is SLICKS

N.O.T
6th October 2017, 13:05
I pressume its aimed at meeke as he is irish. Tasteless racism to be expected from not as usual

you got a chip on your shoulder kid...

lol...

tommeke_B
6th October 2017, 13:08
http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/thierry-neuville-je-vais-le-bouffer-sebastien-ogier-59d643a8cd70be70bcd14540 This time Neuville claims he has 80% chance to become champion. Oh well...

KKS
6th October 2017, 13:09
Michelin Motorsport‏ @Michelin_Sport (https://twitter.com/Michelin_Sport)
#tyres (https://twitter.com/hashtag/tyres?src=hash) info: Day 1 - Afternoon
Citröen Racing/M-Sport: 5 Michelin LTX Force Hard
Hyundai/Toyota: 6 H

N.O.T
6th October 2017, 13:11
http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/thierry-neuville-je-vais-le-bouffer-sebastien-ogier-59d643a8cd70be70bcd14540 This time Neuville claims he has 80% chance to become champion. Oh well...

why doesn't he just proclaim his self champion already ?? why bother with chances ?

René
6th October 2017, 13:56
Meeke soft tyre after SS3:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLc5KqYW4AA_QHf.jpg

it's incredible that he has not lost much time

jparker
6th October 2017, 14:08
Tänak vs Neuville tires

https://twitter.com/viljarvoog/status/916249858889211904

Maybe Neuville tried to make slicks our of gravel tires for the asphalt section :D

KKS
6th October 2017, 14:16
Very...very good split from Latvala.

Livewireshock
6th October 2017, 14:17
Here come the afternoon stages!

KKS
6th October 2017, 14:19
Sordo even faster. Usual gravel stages back.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 14:27
New DMack gravel tyres doing nothing here... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLdX5AJXkAIHBs_.jpg:large

Rallyper
6th October 2017, 14:35
So Lappi faster than Mikkelsen on SS4.

KKS
6th October 2017, 14:38
Looks quite good service for Toyota's

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 14:43
Ostberg leads !!

jparker
6th October 2017, 14:44
and now Ostberg leeds by 0.3 :)

Mintexmemory
6th October 2017, 14:46
Ostberg leads !!
Imagined you'd said that in a Brian Blessed 'Gordon's alive! ' voice! However, tomorrow is Tarmac and Ostberg will be conspicuous by his loss of pace

itix
6th October 2017, 14:46
Radio reporting large amounts of oil leaking from Latvala

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 14:46
Oil leaking from Latvala's Toyota... worrying going into the long stage.

cali
6th October 2017, 14:51
Lappi has spinned? 29 seconds back...He actually hit a tree about 100m from our spot and could not get going for 10-15 seconds. The crowd was going insane, love these southerners :D

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KKS
6th October 2017, 14:59
3 Huyndais on top3 SS5 so far O_o

dimviii
6th October 2017, 15:01
not stage end at 4 ss comments from Meeke?

KKS
6th October 2017, 15:02
Another stage win for Meeke :)
I know is still Mads to come.... but :D

itix
6th October 2017, 15:02
not stage end at 4/5 ss comments from Meeke?

Radio lost contact with stage end interviewer SS4 and currently interview for SS5

dupanton
6th October 2017, 15:03
Small spin for Meeke on SS4 and scratch on SS5

er88
6th October 2017, 15:04
5/6s lost on previous stage with a little spin for Meeke. So far quickest on this stage though

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KKS
6th October 2017, 15:05
Radio lost contact with stage end interviewer SS5 and currently interview for SS6
SS4 lost and current SS5 /
Small remark

itix
6th October 2017, 15:06
That is not a bad time on SS5 from Lefebvre at all. What happened there? He seems just as surprised as everyone else.

seb_sh
6th October 2017, 15:14
Will be interesting to see this last stage, I wonder if Ogier will again have an advantage in the 2nd half or if the Hyundai extra tyre will prove to be worth it.

KKS
6th October 2017, 15:17
Latvala didn't start a stage on time

hope it's a gps glitch

er88
6th October 2017, 15:18
Latvala didn't start a stage on time

hope it's a gps glitchHope so too but his car was leaking oil badly at the last stop line...

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Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 15:20
Ostberg's lead didnt last long... Mikkelsen back ahead by 0.7s after small mistake by Mads.

racerx1979
6th October 2017, 15:20
JML is stopped. Seems his Toyota is cursed with issues this year.

KKS
6th October 2017, 15:21
Latvala didn't start a stage
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/916310249778372608

Rallyper
6th October 2017, 15:22
Maybe better with +5min and Rally2, than no engine at all.

er88
6th October 2017, 15:22
Fuck sake. That's 4 mechanical issues in the last 4 events. NOT will be saying 'I told you so' very soon...

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dimviii
6th October 2017, 15:22
https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22218464_894234597398235_6862510562646372849_o.jpg ?oh=98fb5713df38302e8b42c2f5ffc59ae3&oe=5A7D2748

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 15:22
Very close after the first two splits on Terra Alta.. wait til the end for the gaps.

EDIT - Tanak making a move.

KKS
6th October 2017, 15:25
Maybe better with +5min and Rally2, than no engine at all.
+10min as it's a last stage of a day

KKS
6th October 2017, 15:26
Nueville was faster before tarmac by 0.9 and slower after tarmac by 3.7sec

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 15:27
Neuville slowed on SS6.

dimviii
6th October 2017, 15:27
TGR_WRC‏*@TGR_WRC
Unfortunately #10 @JariMattiWRC had to stop for today after SS5. Will know more, once car back. Trying to restart tomorrow. @RallyRACC

Rallyper
6th October 2017, 15:28
+10min as it's a last stage of a day

My bad. Thought it was only on Saturday.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 15:30
Tanak lost time too... Ogier the master !

seb_sh
6th October 2017, 15:32
Again Ogier with a clear advantage in the 2nd half of the stage which includes the tarmac part.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 15:34
+3s for Neuville to Ogier... better than this morning but still a time loss.

KKS
6th October 2017, 15:36
+3s for Neuville to Ogier... better than this morning but still a time loss.
On other way 11.4 sec not so big tragedy before full two days of rallying

dimviii
6th October 2017, 15:37
Again Ogier with a clear advantage in the 2nd half of the stage which includes the tarmac part.

Neuville and Tanak loosing a lot at just the beginning of the asphalt part,at next splits they both drive faster from Ogier
(split 4)

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 15:37
On other way 11.4 sec not so big tragedy before full two days of rallying

Not big time... but against Ogier.

itix
6th October 2017, 15:39
11 seconds is not impossible but a challenge for sure. I have a feeling that Neuville will struggle now. He needs distance between him and Ogier for the championship. I'd be surprised to see Neuville on the top of the podium at the end of the season.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 15:40
@SebOgier
"Let's see at the end, but whatever happens now I can be happy with my day. I expected to lose more compared to some guys..."

dimviii
6th October 2017, 15:40
Neuville and Tanak loosing a lot at just the beginning of the asphalt part,at next splits they both drive faster from Ogier
(split 4)

at first pass at morning (stage 3)Mikkelsen was faster at asphalt part from Ogier,at asphalt he gained these 2,8 sec from Ogier.At previous split they were on par (+0)

itix
6th October 2017, 15:43
Curious question: Could the team have phoned Latvala and told him he had an oil leak?
If you had listened to the radio at that point, could you as a team member have stopped him before disaster struck and have him patch the leak with whatever they had in the car?

Mintexmemory
6th October 2017, 15:45
Meeke at a cracking pace to start - # nervous!

racerx1979
6th October 2017, 15:45
Curious question: Could the team have phoned Latvala and told him he had an oil leak?
If you had listened to the radio at that point, could you as a team member have stopped him before disaster struck and have him patch the leak with whatever they had in the car?

Oil leaks usually cannot be patched unless it's a small hose that is leaking. I bet it's something more major where they can't fix it with a new hose a few zip ties and super tape.

Mintexmemory
6th October 2017, 15:49
Mikkelsen about to lose most of his gap!

KKS
6th October 2017, 15:50
Mikkelsen consistency lost time here... quite opposite that was in morning

itix
6th October 2017, 15:50
Oil leaks usually cannot be patched unless it's a small hose that is leaking. I bet it's something more major where they can't fix it with a new hose a few zip ties and super tape.

Oh yes you can, if you are a good bush mechanic you can patch leaks with pretty much anything (unless it is power steering fluid which is probably over 100 bar). Engine oil pressure should be around 4-6 bar. I have patched leaks at those pressures with pieces of tshirt or rubber and a hose clamp.

They ususally have an assortment of zipties and hose clamps in the cars.

er88
6th October 2017, 15:51
Mikkelsen about to lose most of his gap!Or all of it !

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dimviii
6th October 2017, 15:51
lets hope to have a multi drivers fight at asphalt at Saturday.Weather seems stabilized,so we will have some comparisons with same rubber among different cars.

er88
6th October 2017, 15:56
Nothing going for Neuville, who was meant to be going for it in this rally. Instead it's Seb who is looking good to bag a victory.

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Mintexmemory
6th October 2017, 15:57
lets hope to have a multi drivers fight at asphalt at Saturday.Weather seems stabilized,so we will have some comparisons with same rubber among different cars.

The only hope of that is if Ogier gets a puncture leaving the also-rans to scrap. This SS6 performance is what defines the great drivers

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 15:58
Was a rumour of rain coming overnight... if so could be tricky in the morning. Especially for later runners (Ogier) if there is dirty road from any cuts.

racerx1979
6th October 2017, 15:58
Oh yes you can, if you are a good bush mechanic you can patch leaks with pretty much anything (unless it is power steering fluid which is probably over 100 bar). Engine oil pressure should be around 4-6 bar. I have patched leaks at those pressures with pieces of tshirt or rubber and a hose clamp.

They ususally have an assortment of zipties and hose clamps in the cars.

Okay, awesome!

EstWRC
6th October 2017, 15:59
Tanak lost the brakes on the tarmac part. Damn problems always

Fast Eddie WRC
6th October 2017, 16:00
Great time by Meeke.

Mintexmemory
6th October 2017, 16:03
Was a rumour of rain coming overnight... if so could be tricky in the morning. Especially for later runners (Ogier) if there is dirty road from any cuts.

Cuts (as I think has been said before) are not so useful / easy in catalonia as there is little verge between the road and either stone kerb or armco. It's usually quicker (and safer) to keep it on the black stuff

dimviii
6th October 2017, 16:03
Neuville and Tanak loosing a lot at just the beginning of the asphalt part,at next splits they both drive faster from Ogier
(split 4)

again same scenario Ogier vs all at split 2-> 3 Meeke had 4,4sec advantage and lost all of it plus 1 second more.
Tanak and Neuville same loosing amount of time from split 2->3
Are we sure its the start of asphalt section ?
Seems Ogier can adapt faster drive wise at first asphalt kms.

dupanton
6th October 2017, 16:04
7 cars within 13s, still a lot to play for!

tommeke_B
6th October 2017, 16:07
Cuts (as I think has been said before) are not so useful / easy in catalonia as there is little verge between the road and either stone kerb or armco. It's usually quicker (and safer) to keep it on the black stuff

Not this time. Quite a lot of cutting tomorrow, especially on the new stage (Savalla) I think. Quite big differences in comparison to most of the tarmac stages used before 2016. Top 7 within 12,8s. If I'm right, the 7th will get the better starting position, the 1st will get the worst, as the dirt gets thrown on the road bit by bit. Everything is still possible.

Mintexmemory
6th October 2017, 16:10
Not this time. Quite a lot of cutting tomorrow, especially on the new stage (Savalla) I think. Quite big differences in comparison to most of the tarmac stages used before 2016. Top 7 within 12,8s. If I'm right, the 7th will get the better starting position, the 1st will get the worst, as the dirt gets thrown on the road bit by bit. Everything is still possible.

How many broken wheels / suspensions do you predict?

dimviii
6th October 2017, 16:13
How many broken wheels / suspensions do you predict?

cutting doesn't mean necessary broken suspension/wheels
A puncture is enough,even a slow one at first stage kms

KKS
6th October 2017, 16:21
Great time by Meeke.
Just by 0.9 faster will be perfect:)

Alex009
6th October 2017, 16:24
Tanak lost the brakes on the tarmac part. Damn problems always

How about problems with toyota?

Ott would be so stupid if he'll really change the best car for the rubbish finnish village team.

KKS
6th October 2017, 16:47
Sunninen with power steering problems drop back to 52sec behind Camilli. And very good drive by Eric today!

dimviii
6th October 2017, 16:49
Suninen lost 40 sec to Camilli,mainly at last split.

steve.mandzij
6th October 2017, 17:05
Latvala just can't catch a break. This has been the best year of his career in terms of his driving, no doubt, and after so many years of throwing away rallies to stupid mistakes it's the car letting him down now.

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dimviii
6th October 2017, 17:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=-TbuFX8zm_I

Rally Power
6th October 2017, 17:24
Apparently Neuville ‘mind games’ didn’t worked on Ogier…the French is still the strongest driver around. Impressive pace from Mikkelsen, Meeke, Ostberg and RC2 leader, Camilli. Another fine show from Ciamin, leading JWRC ahead local hero Solans.

Btw, 5 different winners on 6 SS’s, with all manus getting at least one win; less than 13s between P1 and P7 at the end of leg 1; definitely, 2017 has been the best WRC season for ages!

steve.mandzij
6th October 2017, 17:27
Apparently Neuville ‘mind games’ didn’t worked on Ogier…the French is still the strongest driver around. Impressive pace from Mikkelsen, Meeke, Ostberg and RC2 leader, Camilli. Another fine show from Ciamin, leading JWRC ahead local hero Solans.

Btw, 5 different winners on 6 SS’s, with all manus getting at least one win; less than 13s between P1 and P7 at the end of leg 1; definitely, 2017 has been the best WRC season for ages!When did Toyota win? Opening stage with Hanninen?

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tomhlord
6th October 2017, 17:30
Mikkelsen on gravel in a Citroen

vs

Mikkelson on gravel in a Hyundai ;)

Rally Power
6th October 2017, 17:31
When did Toyota win?

SS4 with Latvala.

Norm75
6th October 2017, 17:31
When did Toyota win? Opening stage with Hanninen?

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Latvala ss4

steve.mandzij
6th October 2017, 17:31
SS4 with Latvala.Oh of course... Whoops.

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spiderem
6th October 2017, 17:54
As well as making ground on Tanak and Neuville, looks like Ogier can now have a good shot a winning the rally :)

dimviii
6th October 2017, 18:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=00Zg0tik0Us

N.O.T
6th October 2017, 18:18
any update on the % of chances the potato dog has ???

laughable arrogant dog....

itix
6th October 2017, 18:29
The biggest miracle of today has to be Meeke staying on pace and on the road at the same time... This can't possibly last a weekend though, surely?

Andre Oliveira
6th October 2017, 18:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGkVAHVKwtg

Simmi
6th October 2017, 19:10
Good day. Think I inhaled half the dust in Catalunya. Went to Terra Alta this morning and then Caseres this afternoon. Managed to snap this of Lappi overcooking it. Basically the first proper corner of the stage. Big breaking point, slid too wide on the first part of the S-bend and took to the bushes. It's quite a cool sequence I'll post some more photos after the rally.

Savage traffic heading back to Salou but we will do it all again tomorrow - with less dust!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLeYCDHX4AET9t-.jpg

dimviii
6th October 2017, 19:13
Good day.

any other impressions about cars drivers?( c3 Ogier Meeke Neuville,Toyotas?)

Eli
6th October 2017, 19:13
The biggest miracle of today has to be Meeke staying on pace and on the road at the same time... This can't possibly last a weekend though, surely?

We'll see, his best result here is 5th (I think) back in 2011 & 2015...still a long way 2 go, and 2 days of Tarmac, I just hope his engine survives (hmm Corsica)....

mknight
6th October 2017, 19:26
Well Mikkelsen being fastest Hyundai and leading the rally in first rally in the car, supposedly without being able to change diffs from the ones Paddon uses is quite suprising to me.
Sure some road position advantage and so on but still I expected him somewhere around Sordo's position.

Others:

Ogier quite impressive pace with the road position
Meeke also quite good, let's see how long it lasts

Tanak and Sordo as expected
Neuville big disappointment, but friday is always his worst day
Lappi second biggest disappointment.. where is his Sardinia pace? Similar question for rest of Toyota.

Allez Andruet
6th October 2017, 19:31
What a pace from Mikkelsen. I never would've believed. And the same goes for Östberg as well. Have the Norwegians transferred their PED-knowledge from cross-country skiing to rallying or what the hell is this about?

The rally's been great so far, but I must say the overall performance of Toyota has been a disappointment. It's not only that Latvala just doesn't seem to have any luck this year, but also that the car hasn't been catching up its competitors lately, which in a way is a bit surprising to be honest. If I'd be Tänak, I wouldn't switch from M-Sport to Toyota, for 2018 atleast.

CoyoteVillagra
6th October 2017, 19:51
https://i.imgur.com/JwKICyp.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/KkZ7WFK.jpg

racerx1979
6th October 2017, 19:56
Ostberg had a great rally today. He lost a bit of time on the last stage which put him 5th, but first at the end of day 1 would have been amazing for a privateer.

Mad's unfortunately is not amazing on tarmac, but lets hope he keeps pace.

EstWRC
6th October 2017, 20:02
6 guys having a chance to win this!

Had a great day, terra Alta in the morning and afternoon and caseras afternoon. Ostberg by faaaar the most aggressive and flamboyant style.

Very impressive day from ogier. Other quite like I expected, neuville and Tänak always not so good on Friday’s.


Just got back from service park and eating now.


Can’t wait for tomorrow

dimviii
6th October 2017, 20:16
silly mistake from Meeke with near no speed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA8rfrJzDIY&feature=youtu.be


Neuville a bit wide
https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/23918-neuville-mistake-rally-racc-catalunya-2017/

Tarmop
6th October 2017, 20:21
What a pace from Mikkelsen. I never would've believed. And the same goes for Östberg as well. Have the Norwegians transferred their PED-knowledge from cross-country skiing to rallying or what the hell is this about?

The rally's been great so far, but I must say the overall performance of Toyota has been a disappointment. It's not only that Latvala just doesn't seem to have any luck this year, but also that the car hasn't been catching up its competitors lately, which in a way is a bit surprising to be honest. If I'd be Tänak, I wouldn't switch from M-Sport to Toyota, for 2018 atleast.

What do you count as lately? 1-2-3 (allmost, if not for tech. issues for Latvala) in Finland and in Germany 4. place for Hänninen and 7. place for Latvala with tech. issues 3rd time in a row, Lappi driving error... Hyundai was also quite week in Finland and Germany, people were talking that they are getting behind, now they are back up. Apart from the stupid technical issues i wouldn`t say they`re bad.

Mirek
6th October 2017, 20:28
It's funny to go back to Rally Poland thread and read how Mikkelsen was useless driver...

dimviii
6th October 2017, 20:31
https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/23920-wrc-rally-racc-catalunya-2017-day-1-pure-sound-action-hd/

SubaruNorway
6th October 2017, 20:40
It's funny to go back to Rally Poland thread and read how Mikkelsen was useless driver...

It's hilarious to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrjTNe8LrXM

dimviii
6th October 2017, 20:42
TGR_WRC‏*@TGR_WRC
#10 Latvala/Anttila will not restart. Strong impact under the car resulted a lubrication system failure and the crew is forced to retire.

steve.mandzij
6th October 2017, 20:47
TGR_WRC‏*@TGR_WRC
#10 Latvala/Anttila will not restart. Strong impact under the car resulted a lubrication system failure and the crew is forced to retire.No way! Agh!

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olemann
6th October 2017, 20:58
Who may have said something so stupid!

OldF
6th October 2017, 21:00
How about problems with toyota?

Ott would be so stupid if he'll really change the best car for the rubbish finnish village team.

FY(I)

Take a tampon and start living a lady life. You clearly have prerequisite for such life.:)

Allez Andruet
6th October 2017, 21:08
What do you count as lately? 1-2-3 (allmost, if not for tech. issues for Latvala) in Finland and in Germany 4. place for Hänninen and 7. place for Latvala with tech. issues 3rd time in a row, Lappi driving error... Hyundai was also quite week in Finland and Germany, people were talking that they are getting behind, now they are back up. Apart from the stupid technical issues i wouldn`t say they`re bad.

I didn't say they were bad either, but that they haven't been catching up their competitors lately. If you compare the multi-million €/$/£ Toyota project vs. "privateer" M-Sport, let's say from Portugal to Catalunya, I don't think they've closed the gap. And technical failures ofcourse must be counted in. It's not like they're forgiven in this sport.

AL14
6th October 2017, 21:17
Apparently Neuville ‘mind games’ didn’t worked on Ogier…the French is still the strongest driver around. Impressive pace from Mikkelsen, Meeke, Ostberg and RC2 leader, Camilli. Another fine show from Ciamin, leading JWRC ahead local hero Solans.

Btw, 5 different winners on 6 SS’s, with all manus getting at least one win; less than 13s between P1 and P7 at the end of leg 1; definitely, 2017 has been the best WRC season for ages!

Of course they didn't work, they were the most ridiculous attempt to destabilize an opponent. I think Ogier laughed hard at it, lol

dimviii
6th October 2017, 21:46
tricky armco

https://youtu.be/kZrTMEeCVnE

olemann
6th October 2017, 21:46
It's funny to go back to Rally Poland thread and read how Mikkelsen was useless driver...

Who said something so stupid

Mirek
6th October 2017, 22:04
A lot of people.

olemann
6th October 2017, 22:21
Are everyone in the English, so they do not understand anything?

olemann
6th October 2017, 22:26
With a new car I do not believe this will be fine in the end

Andre Oliveira
6th October 2017, 22:35
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLfHpeKX4AAE6SM?format=jpg&name=large

steve.mandzij
6th October 2017, 22:39
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLfHpeKX4AAE6SM?format=jpg&name=largeLatvala on the list? Wasn't he not restarting tomorrow?

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KKS
6th October 2017, 23:06
strange to see Latvala

Startlist published at 22:00 local, and TGR tweet at 21:55 local. So maybe didn't have enough time to inform race control?!

Jinu13
7th October 2017, 04:04
The biggest miracle of today has to be Meeke staying on pace and on the road at the same time... This can't possibly last a weekend though, surely?

Grip only seems to do so much for that car, maybe hope will keep him on 4 wheels. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Jinu13
7th October 2017, 04:14
FY(I)

Take a tampon and start living a lady life. You clearly have prerequisite for such life.:)

@Alex009 come grab a prosecco with me and lets get lost over mechanical issues #chictorque

er88
7th October 2017, 06:34
All Michelin crews with 5 Hard tyres, except Neuville and Mikkelsen with 4 Hards and one soft

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KKS
7th October 2017, 06:42
Morning all. Early bike ride to a bakery on freezy morning here in Kyiv it's perfect to wake-up before such an interesting day of rallying. Looking forward for a great rally day.

dimviii
7th October 2017, 06:42
Good morning guys.


Colin Clark‏*@voiceofrally
Spots of rain falling at SS7 stopline! Temp around 15c - this could be very interesting!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLg1c-9W0AErPIc.jpg

KKS
7th October 2017, 06:46
Other stages should be full dry?

dimviii
7th October 2017, 06:52
Sat 08:05 - SS7: Delay
The stage will not run until spectators are standing in the designated safe positions.

dimviii
7th October 2017, 06:53
Sat 08:09 - SS7: LIVE
Al Qassimi started at 0808hrs.

racerx1979
7th October 2017, 06:54
No restart for Latvala. Oil system too heavily damaged.

CoyoteVillagra
7th October 2017, 06:56
https://i.imgur.com/MW3sBJX.jpg

mknight
7th October 2017, 07:00
Clark saying on rallyradio that Latvala goes so much faster with Toyota that it stresses the car more than other drivers and that leads to reliability issues.

Imo there are 2 angles to this:

- he is driving "full speed" and car can't handle it (car has issues)
- his driving destroys the good car (remember how in VW his car seemed always to have issues while other 2 were ok)

dimviii
7th October 2017, 07:06
Teemu / Rallirinki‏*@HartusvuoriWRC
Lappi is missing window on rear driver side. Looks like it was only poorly attached before stage.

Teemu / Rallirinki‏*@HartusvuoriWRC 6m
6 minutes ago

Slight rain on El Montmell now. Very little.

KKS
7th October 2017, 07:11
Juho faster than Neuville on splits... not a title contender speed.

dimviii
7th October 2017, 07:11
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLg9v6BXkAAC7nm.jpg

er88
7th October 2017, 07:12
Neuville slower than Hanninen at 3rd split. He's going to need to do more if he wants to win this title

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er88
7th October 2017, 07:15
This rain if it gets heavier could cause problems for the later starters. Neuville could get lucky?

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KKS
7th October 2017, 07:15
wow.... Rain and Ogier 4sec slower on 1st split

AnttiL
7th October 2017, 07:18
Great time from Hänninen. Meeke going well also. Østberg is slower than I expected.

er88
7th October 2017, 07:20
Seb 5 down on Meeke at second split!!!

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dupanton
7th October 2017, 07:20
Ostberg went off at the start of the stage

dimviii
7th October 2017, 07:20
wow.... Rain and Ogier 4sec slower on 1st split

it was raining for Sordo too


Sat 08:35 - SS7: Sordo
Quickest so far. "At the beginning of the stage it's raining like hell, but only for 3km. My drive was okay, a little understeer, like I expected, but okay. Seeing Hanninen's time, we need to improve."

AnttiL
7th October 2017, 07:21
Mikkelsen is losing a lot as well

dimviii
7th October 2017, 07:22
Mikkelsen not so fast.

KKS
7th October 2017, 07:22
what a mess with split-times.... I can't follow all of it O_o

er88
7th October 2017, 07:22
Meeke superb

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er88
7th October 2017, 07:23
Ogier and Mikkelsen are bang in trouble

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KKS
7th October 2017, 07:24
Crazy drive by Kris!

mknight
7th October 2017, 07:24
Well that's a bit tiresome. Meeke is fastest in first tarmac stage and already he is going to win the event based on rallyradio...

dupanton
7th October 2017, 07:24
Neuville and Tanak complaining of understeer, Meeke is flying (for now)

AnttiL
7th October 2017, 07:25
Meeke probably leading the rally after this stage

er88
7th October 2017, 07:25
Well that's a bit tiresome. Meeke is fastest in first tarmac stage and already he is going to win the event based on rallyradio...Lol. They didn't say that. Clark said his money is now on Meeke, what's wrong with saying that?

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mknight
7th October 2017, 07:26
He said something like "Meeke has the speed to win the event", kinda early after 1 stage with mixed rain conditions.

dimviii
7th October 2017, 07:26
Well that's a bit tiresome. Meeke is fastest in first tarmac stage and already he is going to win the event based on rallyradio...

don't you tired?

KKS
7th October 2017, 07:27
Meeke into a lead.... and now I start worrying a lot.

wwbroe
7th October 2017, 07:29
All Hyundai drivers complaining about a lot of understeering.

René
7th October 2017, 07:32
it's always necessary to be wary of the reaction of an injured animal. Nice reaction from Meeke after a difficult period

er88
7th October 2017, 07:33
All Hyundai drivers complaining about a lot of understeering.Iirc Neuville was complaining of understeer too in Corsica for the first 3/4 stages. Then he sorted it and managed to overhaul Ogier for 2nd before Meeke's retirement. All 3 drivers need to find a little solution here, even though Sordo was quick

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KKS
7th October 2017, 07:34
it's always necessary to be wary of the reaction of an injured animal.
Do you mentioned about Ogier?

AnttiL
7th October 2017, 07:36
Kopecky was almost 10 seconds faster than Suninen, kind of like expected. Let's see if Suninen's lead is enough.

mknight
7th October 2017, 07:38
Do you mentioned about Ogier?

Ogier is quite safe still, not loosing much to Neuville and Neuville only 4th time.

René
7th October 2017, 07:39
Do you mentioned about Ogier?

This is avalable for everyone ! ;)

er88
7th October 2017, 07:46
He said something like "Meeke has the speed to win the event", kinda early after 1 stage with mixed rain conditions.Nowhere did he say Meeke is now going to win the event though, which you said. Why don't you try harder to hide your hatred?

Meeke has been in and around the leading times all rally so far. Was 3/4secs off the lead after 6 gravel stages and is now fastest after the first tarmac stage. He might bin it, the C3 might have a technical issue but is it really "tiresome" for Clark to say his money is now on Meeke, who is 9secs in the lead and has nothing to lose?

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René
7th October 2017, 07:46
In 2017 the only trouble of Ogier is to know who will pay him in 2018...