Rally Italia Sardinia 2017

[steve.mandzij]

No need to be that harsh Watson. WRC isn't a popularity contest; we must praise drivers for their talent and forgive possible character flaws, having in mind the huge pressure they're submitted.
And yet you've got Latvala, Breen, Paddon, Lappi, who are modest and never place the blame on someone else unless absolutely necessary. Neuville thinks he's untouchable.

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[stefanvv]

And yet you've got Latvala, Breen, Paddon, Lappi, who are modest and never place the blame on someone else unless absolutely necessary. Neuville thinks he's untouchable.

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Neuville is under tremendous pressure this is his one and only chance for WDC, until Sebastien makes the car for himself.

[steve.mandzij]

Neuville is under tremendous pressure this is his one and only chance for WDC, until Sebastien makes the car for himself.
Still no excuse to be a dick. In that case, everyone is under pressure of trying to make the most out of their only championship chance in years. There's no doubt it's gotten to everyone (Latvala had never been as angry as this time for all I know). Neuville needs to get his head out of his ass.

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[Rally Power]

Neuville thinks he's untouchable.


Can’t agree with you Steve. He accepted depromotion inside the team in several ‘15 rally’s and was able to get back to the top during ‘16, proving he's one of the best.

[steve.mandzij]

Can’t agree with you Steve. He accepted depromotion inside the team in several ‘15 rally’s and was able to get back to the top during ‘16, proving he's one of the best.
That is true, but in those times he had nothing he could lean on to support his "if you look at my teammates the car isn't fast". Back then, he'd been humbled.

Also, thanks for being polite:)

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[Watson]

I understand that they are under pressure and that you probably don't get very far if you don't think pretty highly of yourself. But there are charming egos like Gronholm, Petter Solberg, Carlos Sainz. Neuville more often than not just comes about flatout arrogant. There's no banter through sarcasm or comments where you have to read between the lines.

[smokingjoe]

No images from last Paddon crash?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/93573858/hayden-paddon-crashes-into-stone-wall-on-final-day-of-rally-italy-sardegna

[GravelBen]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/93573858/hayden-paddon-crashes-into-stone-wall-on-final-day-of-rally-italy-sardegna

Does he need 'don't cut' a bit more often in the notes? Bit of a odd place to clip the inside, almost like he was anticipating a touch of understeer and got a sharper turn-in than expected.

[liposh]

Also huge congrats to Lappi for his pace and stage wins. I’ve said a long time ago: he’s champ material!

it is a little bit pity/shame these young indisputably talented boys are obliged to drive in WRC2 or ERC until age of 26 or higher (and EP was quite lucky to drive best team out of WRC(1) because many "young guns" don´t have such luck and opportunity). Generally the situation with factory seats is very bad these days.

[Walach]

We have four manufacturers with three cars each, so it makes 12 factory seats. Look few years back how many factory seats were available. Do you still think the situation is very bad these days?
Obviously it is difficult to get on top, but such is the nature of life. Always was & always will be.

[Rallyper]

Does he need 'don't cut' a bit more often in the notes? Bit of a odd place to clip the inside, almost like he was anticipating a touch of understeer and got a sharper turn-in than expected.

Has always quoted what my father told me back in the years: front wheels on the road.

[tommeke_B]

That foam looks like non-alcoholic beer though :)

OR Dutch "beer". :D

[AL14]

Little clip of Lappi hitting the drone.

https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/videos/10155461658779973/

Definitely the drone operators must understand how dangerous can be their toy for both the drivers and the spectators.
I like drones view and I think they should operate at WRC events but that's not stuff for irresponsible people.

And I don't want to think that it wasn't a professional operator and that normal people are allowed to use them in crowded places...

[liposh]

As I said before i would definitely like to see the video from this drone. From its view :D Even with broken camera the video must exist until that moment. But releasing that video would reveal its operator and that is something he doesn´t need :D

[tolx]

Heh, watching Power stage on mobile phone in the grocery store, in front of champagne shelf was interesting experience. But at least that was worth it! :D
Big hopes for new wins from Ott.

[SubaruNorway]

As I said before i would definitely like to see the video from this drone. From its view :D Even with broken camera the video must exist until that moment. But releasing that video would reveal its operator and that is something he doesn´t need :D

I got a copyright warning from WRC pretty quickly when i posted the Lappi onboard so no doubt it's DJi :p

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2017/hol_img_6629.jpg
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[A FONDO]

Please put empty lines between the photos, I didn't notice the bridge on the second photo at first sight. :)

[Atob WRC]

Hello all!

Here our video!! We enjoy a lot with these super zones!! Enjoy!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2vIDySbkDY

[dimviii]

nice video with nice spots Atob WRC,thank you mate!

[Mintexmemory]

Little clip of Lappi hitting the drone.

https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/videos/10155461658779973/

Definitely the drone operators must understand how dangerous can be their toy for both the drivers and the spectators.
I like drones view and I think they should operate at WRC events but that's not stuff for irresponsible people.

And I don't want to think that it wasn't a professional operator and that normal people are allowed to use them in crowded places...

Greetings from PortoTorres (back after beach day at Castelsardo).Definitely saw unauthorized drone use in Terranova! However that was used responsibly compared to the authorized idiot at Micky's jump. After showing off prior to the cars arriving he had the bloody thing hovering in every photographer's shot line. Just hope he didn't have the drone insured!

[BigWorm]

Any videos of Paddon's last crash? Reported it was the same situation as the first but worse, wasn't it?

[dimviii]

only incar at previous pages

[EightGear]

Any videos of Paddon's last crash? Reported it was the same situation as the first but worse, wasn't it?

It's on here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/93573858/hayden-paddon-crashes-into-stone-wall-on-final-day-of-rally-italy-sardegna

[AL14]

so what's happening to Paddon? Just a difficult moment? no feeling with the car? Unluck? He has problems entering corners? A bit of all of this?

I really am Sorry for him. he is very committed, works very hard, It hurted me not too see him at the start of Monti di Ala

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[BigWorm]

It's on here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/93573858/hayden-paddon-crashes-into-stone-wall-on-final-day-of-rally-italy-sardegna

Nasty impact there, the high speed is almost stopped instantly. Amazing if no injuries were sustained.

[Watson]

so what's happening to Paddon? Just a difficult moment? no feeling with the car? Unluck? He has problems entering corners? A bit of all of this?

I really am Sorry for him. he is very committed, works very hard [...]

I think we and especially he has to look at this rally isolated from the rest of the season. He has been struggling since the Monte incident, recently his form is clearly pointing upwards.

The first accident was just a momentary lapse of concentration. The second was either a result of frustration or him trying to win the power stage (which makes sense given his pace was blistering all weekend combined with the fact he had nothing to lose anymore).

In the context of the whole season it looks like a nightmare, if you look at just this rally it is not so bad. Tanak and Latvala were chasing him down, so it made sense to keep on pushing on Saturday to take the heat out of Sunday and it went wrong - that's rallying.

[mknight]

The second off happened on the stage before PS. If anything he should have driven slowly to save tires.

On Monte the off wasn't really big and if it wasn't for the circumstances he could have prbly easily gotten to service with small timeloss.
Sweden was ok given what happened on Monte.
Mexico was again ok, technical issues.
Corsica confirms he still is not there on tarmac - this tbh might be one of the main issues as a factory driver these days can't imo afford to be very weak on tarmac. He should really focus on that, drive some other rallies/series/gokart w/e when possible.
Argentina was a stupid small mistake, very similar to both off on Sardinia. Still struggling with the car even when it worked.
Portugal good, again technical issues

Yes altogether it doesn't look so bad. BUT when you compare it with last year vs Sordo and with the fact that Hyundai was most likely the best car most of this season it suddenly does not look that good.

Also they do seem to have some serious issues between him and Neuville. I noticed something last year as well but it doesn't look like it got any better. Whatever the reason is, if Hyundai should pick one it will be Neuville the way it is now.
Slightly worrying all of that. He did very well last year in Poland and will have good starting position so a podium should definitely be possible.

[GravelBen]

Argentina was a stupid small mistake, very similar to both off on Sardinia.

Quite different wasn't it, I don't know if you could even call the Argentina roll a mistake - he was on the right line, in the middle of the road and the car just somehow caught a rut at low speed and slowly tipped over. Ogier would have blamed it on road position. ;)

In general I agree though, he's had probably 3 small but consequential mistakes this season and everything else has been due to technical problems.

[Grundo Farb]

The second off happened on the stage before PS. If anything he should have driven slowly to save tires.

On Monte the off wasn't really big and if it wasn't for the circumstances he could have prbly easily gotten to service with small timeloss.
Sweden was ok given what happened on Monte.
Mexico was again ok, technical issues.
Corsica confirms he still is not there on tarmac - this tbh might be one of the main issues as a factory driver these days can't imo afford to be very weak on tarmac. He should really focus on that, drive some other rallies/series/gokart w/e when possible.
Argentina was a stupid small mistake, very similar to both off on Sardinia. Still struggling with the car even when it worked.
Portugal good, again technical issues

Yes altogether it doesn't look so bad. BUT when you compare it with last year vs Sordo and with the fact that Hyundai was most likely the best car most of this season it suddenly does not look that good.

Also they do seem to have some serious issues between him and Neuville. I noticed something last year as well but it doesn't look like it got any better. Whatever the reason is, if Hyundai should pick one it will be Neuville the way it is now.
Slightly worrying all of that. He did very well last year in Poland and will have good starting position so a podium should definitely be possible.

Good summary. Personally I don't think he has anything to worry about with regards how his team think about him. His attitude is good and when the car is working he is fast, even more so now that they have changed the set-up to be more to his liking. How difficult this is to do and its effect was demonstrated through Mikklesens performance this weekend. He was slow, really slow with a set-up he wasn't familiar with.

The Neuville thing was casued by Neuville's nose being pushed out of joint when Paddon started going as fast as him, then faster combined with a drop in Neuvilles performance.

I think Neuville could pick a fight with anyone.

[EstWRC]

im gonna frame this i think :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCNVMByWsAANJ56.jpg

[sete]

my photos from Sardinia
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1540

[dimviii]

Breen jump that caused retire
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/874655831400361985

[dimviii]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130125/latvala-warns-hell-break-wrc-radio-rules

[Watson]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130125/latvala-warns-hell-break-wrc-radio-rules
He should watch his sharp tongue. If he wants a rule change he'd be better off sweettalking. If he simply ignores the rules he will get booked. And stop the threats already. 'I will retire from the WRC'. 'I will simply break the rules'. I like the guy but he is making an utter clown of himself.

[steve.mandzij]

He should watch his sharp tongue. If he wants a rule change he'd be better off sweettalking. If he simply ignores the rules he will get booked. And stop the threats already. 'I will retire from the WRC'. 'I will simply break the rules'. I like the guy but he is making an utter clown of himself.
It fuels my feeling that he's not feeling too happy, and that he's starting to get frustrated what with his not winning the title thing. If he doesn't win a title by 2019 I feel he might call it quits. I hope not! He's been doing so well so far :)

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[Watson]

It fuels my feeling that he's not feeling too happy, and that he's starting to get frustrated what with his not winning the title thing. If he doesn't win a title by 2019 I feel he might call it quits. I hope not! He's been doing so well so far :)

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He's two years younger than Ogier, six years younger than Meeke. Toyota explicitly said this year they wouldn't try for the title. What is he frustrated about? Did he really set the title as his goal at the beginning of his season? Chill Jari-Matti.

[Andre Oliveira]

Pic by Gianluca Sana

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCOhE6NW0AAJuN-?format=jpg&name=large

[Franky]

im gonna frame this i think :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCNVMByWsAANJ56.jpg

Nothing less than a renovation in the living room with a new wallpaper (the photo from floor to ceiling) will be approved

[dimviii]

photo by EightMike‏*@EightMike
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCOiJIWW0AQwFAC.jpg

[stefanvv]

photo by EightMike‏*@EightMike
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCOiJIWW0AQwFAC.jpg

Just a regular diving, nothing dramatic.

[bluuford]

Seems that he hopes to be back for Finland, sideways jumping looks quite spectacular already ;)

[stefanvv]

Seems that he hopes to be back for Finland, sideways jumping looks quite spectacular already ;)

He didn't know then he is out..... or?

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2017/dwi_17-07ita_paddon0015.jpg
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[kookie]

A few of my shots, enjoy!

Ott Tänak and Martin Järveoja on the power stage:
http://racemedia.si/sites/default/files/styles/watermark_gallery/public/SAR-17-52.jpg
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See more on on my fb page (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1495684280453040.1073741888.391186094236203&type=1&l=7bc928923b) and racemedia.si (http://racemedia.si/gallery/2017/2017Sardinia)

[tommeke_B]

Brief review. All in all a great event, even while I missed the sunday stages. Started with the shakedown, where it seemed clear there would be a lot of dust (I think it was more than usual) during the event. We were in the last part before the finish, including the corner where Prokop went off. Very tricky downhill in braking for the slow right corner, we knew there was a huge risk of someone going off there, and more than one did... The stage on thursday night was great too, great overview as you could see all of the track, probably one of the best of this type of show-stages. Karlstad, Mikolajki, Killeri etc are far less entertaining. On friday and saturday we managed to see 4 stages each time, but only just, very tight schedule with long distances on friday. Good variation of places, going from medium corners to fast and extremely fast. From flat gravel to a very rough descent. It's amazing what these cars and drivers can take. Only the R5(WRC2) disappointed a bit, not so much drivers who were really fast. Kopecky and Camilli were quick and pretty much flawless, Veiby seemed very enthousiast and was spectacular to see. JWRC was nice to see, some surprising actions, it's clear these cars aren't made for such brutal events. For the rest not so much to say, all WRC cars seem to be very close, only the Citroën looks very different in behaviour, but for me it's impossible to say. Mikkelsen was clearly taking it easy, and the other 2 were out quite early on...

A few photos:

https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19092915_1817802734898271_5627148069648705043_o.jp g?oh=4b6515f0bb9ad34980330801c926a4dd&oe=59D48F1C

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https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19222745_1817802218231656_6643735704215280846_o.jp g?oh=772ffcd1f845b1697d7610a7642a2adc&oe=59E16484

A few more on my facebook-page: https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallyimage/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1817801731565038

[EstWRC]

i think this hasnt been here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XeVvcU0_L4

[dimviii]

nice video!^^

[Mintexmemory]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74mex/albums/72157685060792765/with/35269284046/

My Flickr album is now up but some editing of exposure and cropping required so as soon as the on line edit is available the finished pics will improve. Also my 35mm shots will be added sometime in the next 2 weeks.
I hope they are of interest and encourage people to go to this wonderful event.

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2017/jan_31.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2017/jan_5.jpg

[Duvel]

Nice pics and movie's, thanks.

For me this stays one of the best events to visit in the wrc, amazing scenery, great island, lots of overview points,..
We did 3 stage's on Friday, 3 Saturday, and 2 on Sunday (we were able to go to a beach each day in between the stage's) so 4 stage's a day is possible.
Just a shame they did not have a big screen at the podium like some years ago, showing the sss on thursday.

Went to the finish on the last saturday stage, what a view, able to see i think 40% of the stage from that point, very cool.
Also the power stage is great, first loop, than having a swim in the mediteranian while r3 cars are still passing, snorkling in between. Than back to power stage and the finish, seems a bit like rally heaven to me.

What i also noticed on this edition, the stewards where much more in controll, firm but correct i think!
Ans drivers are still great, easy to speak to, take a selfie whit, dont think there are many other sports where you can speak to a 4 time world champion in between race's.

I shure hope Sardenga is in the calender for 2018, ill be back than. (i dont get why some people always want to replace this event whit San remo, or just bin it).

Keep those pics coming..

[Duvel]

My view (as a Belgian) on Neuville beeing not friendly.
Just imagine yourself in that position, knowing this year might be your best chanse ever to be a WDC.
Your doing great on an event you still very wel can win and your main oponent is back in the order. But than, on the one stage you where planning to make your move the brake's dont work!
I'd be pissed of to, lost chanse. To me it's part of a sportsman's job, i actually like such reaction somethimes.

Just look at Latvalla, wouldn't hurt anybody, but also very angry after a setback.

Shame for Meeke, i also like the guy, these accidents must be hard to cope whit.

These drivers are just under a lot of pressure, stil performing like they do is just crazy. To me they are artists in a car.

Did anyone see a dead snake on the road to Oschiri, i think i accidentely killed one whil crossing the road..

[EstWRC]

family, relatives and estonian autosport union welcoming our heroes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oEcOFiqe8U

[EstWRC]

This one is quite interesting this time https://youtu.be/SIprw5JPaSw

[Watson]

This one is quite interesting this time https://youtu.be/SIprw5JPaSw

Clever car placement and making decisions like these in the tecce is vital to be quick and save on fast passages. Tanak is very good at this hence fast rallies are one of his big strengths. But he obviously can be quick in more technical events too, as seen in Sardinia.

[dimviii]

when Ogier found a yaris bumper at stage

https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/320074MineLappi.jpg
c3
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2017/post-1425-0-03132400-1497807383.jpg

[Munkvy]

My view (as a Belgian) on Neuville beeing not friendly.
Just imagine yourself in that position, knowing this year might be your best chanse ever to be a WDC.
Your doing great on an event you still very wel can win and your main oponent is back in the order. But than, on the one stage you where planning to make your move the brake's dont work!
I'd be pissed of to, lost chanse. To me it's part of a sportsman's job, i actually like such reaction somethimes.

Just look at Latvalla, wouldn't hurt anybody, but also very angry after a setback.

Shame for Meeke, i also like the guy, these accidents must be hard to cope whit.

These drivers are just under a lot of pressure, stil performing like they do is just crazy. To me they are artists in a car.

Did anyone see a dead snake on the road to Oschiri, i think i accidentely killed one whil crossing the road..

Brakes don't spontaneously stop working however, I would say it's 99.99% of the time something the driver has done/not done that has caused them to fail. And therefore I feel Neuville's reaction is juvenile, a driver of more maturity would react with frustration but also be an adult about the situation.

[baffo]

Some good videos from Sardinia!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENJUDPbKsU&t=67s

[Mintexmemory]

My 35mm pics from Sardinia are now (mostly) uploaded to my Flickr album https://www.flickr.com/photos/74mex/albums/72157684124971440

This Pic was taken with my Pentax K1000 with Lumo iso800 film

[Franky]

Why such a crazy amount of grain on some of the pics? Underexposed?

[Mintexmemory]

Why such a crazy amount of grain on some of the pics? Underexposed?

Nope - some of the grain is due to iso800 film, some due to the neg scanning resolution and some to deliberate selective highlighting by post-ed 'sharpening'. I quite like the grainiest Tanak shot. People are too used to seeing DSLR so grain comes as a shock. I'm a product of the 60s / 70s in terms of my motorsport experience so I like the retro style of photography that was in vogue then.
Not a single pic on 2 rolls was underexposed, a Pentax and Sardinian light is a very good combination.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Love it

[Florin]

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Flotography-375298315890553/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1430755300344844