Rally Italia Sardinia 2017

[KKS]

Just watch a Breen onboard from SS4. And at 12:00:00 after jump he lands and there was a huge bedrock at the middle of road. Car was in compression and rock was 5-6cm over the road. :( Bad luck.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB463a8XgAAxrHQ.jpg

[dimviii]

Start of stage will be delayed for 10 minutes

[N.O.T]

Start of stage will be delayed for 10 minutes

Italian delaying mastery... it would be Germany otherwise.

[dimviii]

Meeke roll incar video clip
https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing

[steve.mandzij]

Sainz/Moya duo also had very detailed pacenotes....
For some it works, for others it doesn't. Perhaps Meeke kept his detailed pacenotes he's always used in slower cars than they are now, and the increased speed might be causing him issues.

Edit: however his crashes aren't exclusively due to pacenotes. He's made much more mistakes himself.

[Co-FIN]

Not.. 3 Toyotas in top 4. Can you explain again how idiot the team is and will flop 100% OR for once be a a man and admit that you where just wrong/idiot? :)


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[wrc2017]

Watched clip. Im stuggling to see what Meeke done wrong..
But if that's the style he has developed, I can't see it changing without himself realizing it. Co driver, trying to adjust this can only lead to more drama.


Meeke roll incar video clip
https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing

[KKS]

And Meeke onboard aswell on wrc+.
What can I say? - It's not a Meeke fault. In that corner some big lose gravel and back of C3 will drift away to outside, and there was a hill which flip a car.

[N.O.T]

Not.. 3 Toyotas in top 4. Can you explain again how idiot the team is and will flop 100% OR for once be a a man and admit that you where just wrong/idiot? :)


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3 toyotas in top 4 ?? are you blind kid ? or just finish ?

[tolx]

Havent watched the clip yet. My point was about Meeke in general

[stefanvv]

Meeke roll incar video clip
https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing

I don't think it is pacenote dictation problem, he already knew what corner is next.

[KKS]

Meeke roll incar video clip
https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing
It better post direct link to video https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing/status/873200562807943168
when you come late and read thread from far back it difficult to find right twitts :)

[mknight]

Meeke roll incar video clip
https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing

Not very big mistake, often this kind of touch would do nothing at all, but sometimes it brakes the suspension completely, here it seems it made the rear climb up on the hill. Then again it's the 7th? this season.

[KKS]

I don't think it is pacenote dictation problem,
it's clearly loose gravel in that corner

[N.O.T]

ogier just 2 sec faster than this morning on split 1

[seb_sh]

How can you say it's not his fault?!?!? That was driver error... Reading the road is part of rally driving...

[EstWRC]

Neuville on a big push

[dimviii]

imho it is clear driver error.Note has been read early,and the loose gravel is visible as half the corner.

[KKS]

That was a problem.... gravel!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB4-7ChXYAAKzhI.jpg

[KKS]

How can you say it's not his fault?!?!? That was driver error... Reading the road is part of rally driving...
We all know that rear of C3 lives own life, in notes no "slippery" or so. So they didn't know about that.
In Sweden C3 rear decide go to walk, and same here...

[N.O.T]

Ogier slower than Sordos pass this morning.

[Simmi]

Bottom lip out for Seb at the end of SS8.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Quick start again for Tanak, can he finish quick though...

[N.O.T]

Neuville did something wrong during split 2

[satukata]

Lappi could lead the rally without gearbox problems!! Great talent!

[er88]

The crash was 100% Meeke's fault. No excuses lads

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[Mirek]

We all know that rear of C3 lives own life, in notes no "slippery" or so. So they didn't know about that.
In Sweden C3 rear decide go to walk, and same here...

Please stop.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon lost some time early on...

[stefanvv]

Interesting battle Neuville-Latvala

[Lundefaret]

Paddon lost some time early on...

Suspected broken damper.

[steve.mandzij]

Daaaaamn. What an issue a little shitty sticker can cause :D

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[abxyz]

He seems to have made a mistake in the first split, second split he is on pace

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Quick start again for Tanak, can he finish quick though...

Nope. Spin and hit something.

[N.O.T]

Interesting battle Neuville-Latvala

and Tanak...

[Co-FIN]

3 toyotas in top 4 ?? are you blind kid ? or just finish ?

In SS7 yes, how is it possible in your terms?


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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo fixed and flying !

[KKS]

Sordo fix his turbo. Faster so far 1st split

[EstWRC]

Tänak wont win never a rally if he continues like this, miserable afternoon

[stefanvv]

Sordo with turbo again.

[dimviii]

Tänak wont win never a rally if he continues like this, miserable afternoon

Fri 18:01 - SS8: Tanak
5.4sec off the pace here. His Fiesta's front-right tyre is pushed slightly off the rim. "A half-spin near the end. We're struggling with the car a bit."

[AnttiL]

So during the last three stages, Latvala and Neuville have spent exactly the same amount of time.

[N.O.T]

Tänak wont win never a rally if he continues like this, miserable afternoon

relax kid... he will.

[EstWRC]

Fri 18:01 - SS8: Tanak
5.4sec off the pace here. His Fiesta's front-right tyre is pushed slightly off the rim. "A half-spin near the end. We're struggling with the car a bit."

its the trademark of the season so far with his setup wrong again.

Neuville can smell the victory now, just 8.8 secs from Paddon

[satukata]

mikkelsen is in same position with citroen. Fastest WRC2 :)

[KKS]

Please stop.
And what Meeke should do at flat right into flat left corner?

[N.O.T]

i think we get the yogurt pot (Ingrassia TM) effect in this rally.... later cars bring more gravel into the racing line.

That explains a lot.

[er88]

And what Meeke should do at flat right into flat left corner?
Stay on the road ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hope Tanak keeps calm and stays concentrated. M-Sport & Ogier will need him to take good points and also take points off others.

[N.O.T]

crazy time by sordo... of course his tyres would be fresh.

[Mirek]

And what Meeke should do at flat right into flat left corner?

You made a baseless claim and I asked You to stop with it. That's all. If You want to continue, I'm ok with it.

[EstWRC]

Hanninen coming very slow

[wrc2017]

Meeke off. But we have to agree the C3 is not easy to drive. If it was Mikkelson would be semi-competitive.
But if that's the style he has developed, I can't see it changing without himself realizing it. Co driver, trying to adjust this can only lead to more drama.


Please stop.

[dimviii]

crazy time by sordo... of course his tyres would be fresh.
maybe better condition tyres due to turbo problems.

[EstWRC]

Hanninen lost 20 secs but kept 2nd place

[er88]

Honestly I'm shocked at how slow Andreas is. Not great for him but even worse for Citroen you feel

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[AnttiL]

Positions 2 to 6 are within 6.2 seconds now. Good fight for the last stage.

[ZequeArgentina]

Positions 2 to 6 are within 6.2 seconds now. Good fight for the last stage.

With road position in mind, ideal would be to be 6th at 6.3 seconds to the 2nd one!!!
So, how to fight next stage???

[satukata]

Positions 2 to 6 are within 6.2 seconds now. Good fight for the last stage.

Last stage is very interesting. Tomorrow is long day and starting position is very important. Hope best for Toyota boys :)

[satukata]

With road position in mind, ideal would be to be 6th at 6.3 seconds to the 2nd one!!!
So, how to fight next stage???

Last wrc2017 car today start first tomorrow. so better drive flat out last stage to get better position for tomorrow

[AnttiL]

With road position in mind, ideal would be to be 6th at 6.3 seconds to the 2nd one!!!
So, how to fight next stage???

Remember that the road order tomorrow will be the overall standing list reversed. So 2nd placed drives after the 6th placed

[steve.mandzij]

When all else fails I know I can count on Satukata to cheer for Toyota with me :)


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[KKS]

RC1 cars only reversed for tomorrow (wrc17 and wrc16<=)

[ZequeArgentina]

Remember that the road order tomorrow will be the overall standing list reversed. So 2nd placed drives after the 6th placed

Thanks, so my mistake.................

[mknight]

Last wrc2017 car today start first tomorrow. so better drive flat out last stage to get better position for tomorrow

I don't think so. Last WRC car and not WRC2017 it was in previous rallies.

So Sordo, Romagna, Raux, Yazee, Mikkelsen, Lappi etc.

[satukata]

[QUOTE=steve.mandzij;1141178]When all else fails I know I can count on Satukata to cheer for Toyota with me :)


I cheer for Toyota! my home is only 10km´s from ToyotaGR farm!

[mknight]

Honestly I'm shocked at how slow Andreas is. Not great for him but even worse for Citroen you feel

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Well yes, but one has to wonder if Citroen was a bit too optimistic with just 1 day test on different roads and gravel in France. But probably something of that was dictated by testing limitations?

[EstWRC]

cmon Tänak show your magic on the final stage and get in front of Neuville and Latvala again

[Eric]

Honestly I'm shocked at how slow Andreas is. Not great for him but even worse for Citroen you feel

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You are not a fan of Mikkelsen. We get it.

Finally Paddon is having a good rally! Hope he continues like this tomorrow. Although I think Neuville will be strong with his starting position

[steve.mandzij]

[QUOTE=steve.mandzij;1141178]When all else fails I know I can count on Satukata to cheer for Toyota with me :)


I cheer for Toyota! my home is only 10km´s from ToyotaGR farm!
Exactly, we cheer together :)

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[satukata]

I don't think so. Last WRC car and not WRC2017 it was in previous rallies.

So Sordo, Romagna, Raux, Yazee, Mikkelsen, Lappi etc.

You are right. WRC.com "in 2017, P1 drivers will start only the opening day in their championship positions, before switching to reverse classification order for the last two. "

[er88]

You are not a fan of Mikkelsen. We get it.

Finally Paddon is having a good rally! Hope he continues like this tomorrow. Although I think Neuville will be strong with his starting position
Wrong, I like him. I just say it how i see it, and he's been driving at a pace Lefebvre wouldn't even be pleased about. Just because I like him doesn't mean I can't admit that

[Mirek]

By the way also nice fight in RC2 between Camilli and Kopecký. They even once made same time on stage.

[satukata]

ogiers 2nd split over 10sec faster than 1st pass

[EstWRC]

cmon Tänak keep it together now

[AnttiL]

By the way also nice fight in RC2 between Camilli and Kopecký. They even once made same time on stage.

shame for Camilli that he's not running for WRC2 points here

[steve.mandzij]

By the way also nice fight in RC2 between Camilli and Kopecký. They even once made same time on stage.
I was very critical of Camilli last year, but I will admit he seems to have improved in R5s.

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[steve.mandzij]

Wow, Tanak going fast.

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[Teardrop]

"Tomorrow won't be much better because there won't be many cars in front of me. That's the WRC."
RIDICULOUS MAN!!

[KKS]

oh and Tanak pass Latvala

[EstWRC]

Get in Tänak, finally showed his magic like i wanted

[KKS]

5min gap for WRC now at this stage?

[AnttiL]

5min gap for WRC now at this stage?

I think it has to do with Sordo being late. The normal interval is 3 min

[EstWRC]

Tänak: "This was the only place where we were going to gain from two spares, so I tried to do my best. This afternoon has been really difficult, not a good feeling. Let's see what tomorrow brings."

[satukata]

"Tomorrow won't be much better because there won't be many cars in front of me. That's the WRC."
RIDICULOUS MAN!!

BUUU ogier isn´t nice champ!

[Rallyper]

One has to take in mind that this is a "slow" rally which make some of the drivers further down the line seem "fast". However when going flat out in 6th gear there are fewer guys in the top position timewise.

[satukata]

Nice 1st split for Hanninen!

[steve.mandzij]

Four (five?) Way fight for the lead tomorrow.

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[KKS]

Good first split from Juho. If he keep Sordo pace - he be leading for tomorrow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Assuming Mikkelsen is going to have a future with Citroen he needed to have as much seat time as possible in the C3. He could not afford to have an accident and lose the chance to learn the car. This is why he takes no chances and is slow here.

[EstWRC]

Hanninen just binned it, the speed was just 5km/h for a long time, moving now

[abxyz]

Noooooooooooooooooo

[KKS]

aaaaa drama for Hanninen :( +40sec

[satukata]

poor Hanninen did it again!

[EstWRC]

what i said

[EstWRC]

1. Paddon
2. Neuville
3. Tänak


bring on tomorrooowwwww

[AnttiL]

Lappi coming fast again

[satukata]

Lappi flying!

[mknight]

Sadly it's kind of the same story with Hanninen again. Either he drives consistently and ends down the standings or he is top 5 fast and crashes.

[satukata]

Coling Clark in maximumm attack again!

[satukata]

Lappi is my STAR of the Rally!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

1. Paddon
2. Neuville
3. Tänak


bring on tomorrooowwwww

Come on Ott... you have a great chance here and help the team and Ogier.

[Mirek]

Just reading on Czech forum that FIA changed rules for WRC2 after Portugal. Now skipping mandatory round doesn't mean end of championship. Mandatory event just counts as zero. It means that Kopecký takes points in WRC2 (and so steals from others).

[Mise]

Intresting to see how will Ogier win this rally too...

[satukata]

Evans and breen starting tomorrow

[abxyz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5V_hpXsAY9cbB.jpg
Juho

[steve.mandzij]

1. Paddon
2. Neuville
3. Tänak


bring on tomorrooowwwww
You're forgetting Latvala.

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[macebig]

The rally is Neuville's to lose...

[dimviii]

monster is coming

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5VqhrXsAQzlZ7.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundai team-orders coming to get Neuville ahead of Paddon tomorrow ?

[mknight]

Even though Italian Beer is mostly water they probably don't have enough of that to make Hanninen reach service.

[AnttiL]

So tomorrow's start order is as follows, am I correct?

1. Sordo
2. Raoux
3. Al-Rajhi
4. Mikkelsen
5. Lappi
6. Ogier
7. Hänninen (if he continues)
8. Østberg
9. Latvala
10. Tänak
11. Neuville
12. Paddon
13.-14. Breen, Evans

[abxyz]

Hanninen is going again, but he is loosing coolant

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5YB_iXkAABw5X.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5YB_hXoAAXBCW.jpg

[mknight]

Sordo should start first, he has not retired at any point.

[AnttiL]

Sordo should start first, he has not retired at any point.

Right of course, fixed it.

[dimviii]

Fri 19:37 - Hanninen update 1
Juho and co-driver Kaj Lindstrom have parked their Yaris close to the stage end and are making repairs. They have tried to repair a cracked cooling system pipe and have topped up the system using their drinking water. Lindstrom gives a quick explanation of what happened in stage: "Hit a bank."

Fri 19:41 - Hanninen update 2
Hanninen starts the car and sets off on the 50km plus journey to service in Alghero. The car is still spouting water as it pulls away.

[Watson]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5V_hpXsAY9cbB.jpg
Juho

I find it funny that people still go woooahhh when Meeke and Hanninen go fast for a while on the first day. They have no measure. Win it or bin it my ass they both go way too hard until it all goes tits up. You guys all know what Einstein's definition of lunacy is.

I get the feeling that they both can't go at 95%. They either drive at walking pace or straight into the next bit of scenery.

[er88]

Hyundai team-orders coming to get Neuville ahead of Paddon tomorrow ?
Neuville probably won't need team orders (but if Paddon stays in front Hyundai have to implement team orders). If Thierry doesn't bin it, we have one hell of a championship battle on our hands. Ogier already sounding a bit rattled with those stage end comments

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[mknight]

Right of course, fixed it.

Romagna also finished all stages he run so far normally and should start at some point around Sordo if he finishes the last stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The rally is Neuville's to lose...

It's happened before... and if Tanak can keep the pressure on...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville probably won't need team orders (but if Paddon stays in front Hyundai have to implement team orders). If Thierry doesn't bin it, we have one hell of a championship battle on our hands. Ogier already sounding a bit rattled with those stage end comments


Really cant blame him here. Being first car & sweeping the road has been a massive disadvantage.

[dimviii]

Really cant blame him here. Being first car & sweeping the road has been a massive disadvantage.

yeap.125 stage km and lost only 41 sec.Good job at this terrain.
Tomorrow 143 stage km.
final day only 42 km

[steve.mandzij]

I find it funny that people still go woooahhh when Meeke and Hanninen go fast for a while on the first day. They have no measure. Win it or bin it my ass they both go way too hard until it all goes tits up. You guys all know what Einstein's definition of lunacy is.

I get the feeling that they both can't go at 95%. They either drive at walking pace or straight into the next bit of scenery.
I think the wow factor from Hanninen is that he's actually doing well. General consensus says he's not that fast, so it's always surprising to see him near the top.

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[dimviii]

Hanninen is he still moving?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5crRWXUAUS4sR.jpg

[satukata]

Hanninen is moving!!

[KKS]

Tomorrow is crazy itinerary. First car out of parc ferme - 05:00 local.

[satukata]

Hanninen is about half way to service. Looking good 120kmh

[satukata]

Tomorrow is crazy itinerary. First car out of parc ferme - 05:00 local.

time to go sleep soon! what is time in Kyiv?

[Watson]

yeap.125 stage km and lost only 41 sec.Good job at this terrain.
Tomorrow 143 stage km.
final day only 42 km

It's a proper long day tomorrow. I reckon around three of those top seven are going to be put out of contention by either a mistake, a rock, a puncture or technical difficulties.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tomorrow is crazy itinerary. First car out of parc ferme - 05:00 local.

Not only that, the midday service break will be huuuuuuuuuuuuuge. SS8 starts 9.20... SS9 starts 15.08 !!

[dimviii]

Hanninen is about half way to service. Looking good 120kmh

to reach the service is one thing,the other thing is to reach service without damaging the engine.
Cross fingers.

[HarriK]

Not only that, the midday service break will be huuuuuuuuuuuuuge. SS8 starts 9.20... SS9 starts 15.08 !!

Ss8 and 9 are drove today allready :)

[Rally Power]

Hyundai team-orders coming to get Neuville ahead of Paddon tomorrow ?

No need for team orders. It’s great to see Paddon at the top again, but let’s be fair: he got a much favourable road position than Neuville and the Belgian is only 8s behind him.

Great rally from Toyota guys (with Lappi confirming his amazing talent) and Tanak. Bad day for Ogier; the 41s lost to Paddon aren’t surprising, but the 32 to Neuville (2nd on the road) seem a bit too much.

But Ogier’s bad day is nothing compared to Citroen nightmare. Maybe the C3 really has some tech issues (it’d be nice to see Breen’s footage) but sadly there’s no room for doubts on Meeke’s driving issues: he’s a ‘crasher’. On the top there’s also this poor pace from Mikkelsen, the one that was expected to save Citroen…it’s getting hard to see how they’ll manage to turnaround current situation. Still, fingers crossed for them: WRC needs a strong and competitive Citroen team!

[Eli]

Would be nice to see a podium of the 2 Hyundai's & either Mads or Latvala on the 3rd step, would make the championship so much closer if Ogier finishes in the whereabouts he is now.
Oh and yes what only can be described as a dismal day for Citroen, and if we're honest it's really a continuation of a dismal year, don't see how they change things around at least not for this season.

[itix]

Fantastic times from Lappi almost all day.
Surprise of the rally really!

[BigWorm]

Neuville only 8s behind after the first day...beautiful

I feared it would have been bigger

[KKS]

time to go sleep soon! what is time in Kyiv?
Luckily (for Europe events) we have +1 to CET zone and SS10 starts at comfortable 08:45 Kyiv time =)

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5yHLGXYAAlHnM?format=jpg&name=large

[mknight]

lol they skipped all the other P1s, gj

I really do wonder how that is possible. I do remember Gorban and the like going first on road previously this year.

Anyway I can already see SOrdo being late in first TC due to "technical problems"

[dimviii]

Juho at service park

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5qtsWXoAE-4v7.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ss8 and 9 are drove today allready :)

Meant SS12 & SS13... massive gap tomorrow.

[stefanvv]

Anyway I can already see SOrdo being late in first TC due to "technical problems"

One or more of his wheels won't be tightened well.

[EstWRC]

No need for team orders. It’s great to see Paddon at the top again, but let’s be fair: he got a much favourable road position than Neuville and the Belgian is only 8s behind him.

Great rally from Toyota guys (with Lappi confirming his amazing talent) and Tanak. Bad day for Ogier; the 41s lost to Paddon aren’t surprising, but the 32 to Neuville (2nd on the road) seem a bit too much.

But Ogier’s bad day is nothing compared to Citroen nightmare. Maybe the C3 really has some tech issues (it’d be nice to see Breen’s footage) but sadly there’s no room for doubts on Meeke’s driving issues: he’s a ‘crasher’. On the top there’s also this poor pace from Mikkelsen, the one that was expected to save Citroen…it’s getting hard to see how they’ll manage to turnaround current situation. Still, fingers crossed for them: WRC needs a strong and competitive Citroen team!

very well summed up! exactly what i thought, especially about Ogier....yes, he is first on the road but like you said, look at Neuville, started just behind Ogier and he is way faster than him.

[mknight]

Most of this year Hyundai has been noticeably faster than Ford on slow and twisty stages.

[Tarmop]

Meant SS12 & SS13... massive gap tomorrow.

Kinda like it...follow the first leg, then enjoy nice summer weather and do outdoor jobs, shopping...follow the second leg and start grilling, chilling, drinking, enjoying a nice saturday evening (last part not necessarily in the same order).:D

[EstWRC]

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[KKS]

Quite interesting quote from Dani and Mikkelsen
https://www.facebook.com/RallyItaliaSardegna/videos/1285359264895988/

As a translation of Andreas words: "Yes, I have a seat in factory Citroen, but now I must think twice, if I need that" :)

[mknight]

He's saying:

"The car is setup for a bad/slow driving style, have to change it".

Also he looks genuinely suprised when they ask about the balance under braking (like a small boy caught doing something). Probably didn't notice the replay with that part got out. Admits that they "have to work on that".

In a way that's what Ogier did with Ford, complained it didn't suit him (Tanak is more about throwing car sideways into corners) and after going into the dead-end in Argentina where it just didn't turn at low speed (see powerstage replay from there), they changed the diff for him for Portugal and he was back on top.

[Tarmop]

Quite interesting quote from Dani and Mikkelsen
https://www.facebook.com/RallyItaliaSardegna/videos/1285359264895988/

As a translation of Andreas words: "Yes, I have a seat in factory Citroen, but now I must think twice, if I need that" :)

Correction of the translation: "It`s not a Polo." :D
But to be serious, hope he gets a chance in next events. You can`t expect that after six missed events and a few test kilometers one is good enough to challenge for a win or even a podium place.

[mknight]

Correction of the translation: "It`s not a Polo." :D


He drove a Hyundai a month ago.

[dimviii]

were we go.

"I feel annoying, but it's the usual feeling after opening days." "What kind of days are so long?" "What Neuville did today is not bad. I'm sure he was a little quicker than me when I started second but it makes a difference compared to the first place, he certainly rolls faster than me on the whole day. That about twenty are due to our positions ", slipped the world champion title to Olivier Gaspard, special envoy of the RTBF in Sardinia.
And to conclude, in a tone that sticks to his annoyance: "What I hope for tomorrow, that the weekend ends and that we go home." My speech is the same as last year, It's not the vision I have of the sport, it's not my vision, but it's like that ... Make a settlement for the losers, it's never been my vision ... "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_le-coup-de-gueule-d-ogier-faire-un-reglement-pour-les-losers-ca-n-a-jamais-ete-ma-vision?id=9629948

[olemann]

Mikkelsen is a smart boy. Possible Lefebvre settings do not match Andrea's driving style. Some adjustments will certainly be made during the night.

[Andre Oliveira]

What the f*ck? What Lefebvre settings?

[KKS]

were we go.


oh. He looks like a child who has lost candy.

[steve.mandzij]

were we go.

"I feel annoying, but it's the usual feeling after opening days." "What kind of days are so long?" "What Neuville did today is not bad. I'm sure he was a little quicker than me when I started second but it makes a difference compared to the first place, he certainly rolls faster than me on the whole day. That about twenty are due to our positions ", slipped the world champion title to Olivier Gaspard, special envoy of the RTBF in Sardinia.
And to conclude, in a tone that sticks to his annoyance: "What I hope for tomorrow, that the weekend ends and that we go home." My speech is the same as last year, It's not the vision I have of the sport, it's not my vision, but it's like that ... Make a settlement for the losers, it's never been my vision ... "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_le-coup-de-gueule-d-ogier-faire-un-reglement-pour-les-losers-ca-n-a-jamais-ete-ma-vision?id=9629948
What a complete asshole. I hope he loses the title this year.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Who is the new commentator on the rally highlights ? At least they"re not Desborough ! ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Red Bull showing the same live stage tomorrow as the TV... no 'extra' stage to watch on Saturday. :(

[olemann]

Sorry so much to you who are from the UK and someone else. It's no good that their favorites run out the first day. I hope somebody learns the exercises and takes adjustments as they come. It can be done overnight.

[Eli]

Who is the new commentator on the rally highlights ? At least they"re not Desborough ! ;)

Shame Redbull TV aren't doing the whole highlight shows themselves...especially when they have Mark Webber alongside them!!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Fuck I love Lappi :D his quote consolidated his place in my list of favorite drivers, and he's even winning stages!

Interesting rally atm. Latvala's in for a fight with Neuville and Ogier fell quite a bit back. Also, Meeke really doesn't deserve to drive anymore. Eight crashes in seven rallies is unacceptable.

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His quote is actually a re-quote of a famous quote that you can find on You Tube. Search 'Peugeot 307 Gronholm '

[KiwiWRCfan]

Who is the new commentator on the rally highlights ? At least they"re not Desborough ! ;)

Ben Constanduros

[the sniper]

Who is the new commentator on the rally highlights ? At least they"re not Desborough ! ;)


Ben Constanduros

He's done various things, was with WTCC/Eurosport for a long time, but has been doing TCR (touring cars) more recently. He does production stuff too, he's previously worked on the Dakar coverage.

Trivia for those who don't know, he is the son of Bob Constanduros, the F1 podium announcer and former "Chaaammmmppppaaaaggnnnnne" caller.

[steve.mandzij]

His quote is actually a re-quote of a famous quote that you can find on You Tube. Search 'Peugeot 307 Gronholm '
I know :) It was exactly why I got excited!

In the onboard they showed on RBTV he actually says "Tell Corrado that five is enough". Didn't even change the quote :D

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[Fitz]

He drove a Hyundai a month ago.

& rolled it !
Jeez Kris-I think I'm going to where my Citroen cap upside down....

[sollitt]

Neuville probably won't need team orders ...Not necessarily. On form Paddon comfortably has the measure of Neuville. Assuming Nandan gives him a car that can go the distance, today's stages will show whether he's regained his peak.

[wrc2017]

Is the the corner Meeke went off on? That a flat right from a slow left. A nothing corner. He is following clean lines. Too many off Meeke mistakes look the same. Citroen have a rear torque bias homolgated, every other team 50/50. Im starting to feel sorry for him. In many ways Mikkelson pace is proving this car is not easy to drive. Maybe Meeke is making it look better than it is. Why would Mikkelson want to continue to drive this car.. it could damage his reputation.

[rallyfiend]

So Red Bull showing the same live stage tomorrow as the TV... no 'extra' stage to watch on Saturday. :(

That's how it is at every event. There's no such thing as a 'red bull stage', it's just a different lead-in and closing to a standard TV stage.

[eib1]

Michelin Motorsport‏Verified account @Michelin_Sport 23m23 minutes ago
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#Tyre Info - Day 2 morning:
Mikkelsen/Sordo: 5 Michelin LTX Force S5
Breen/Paddon/Ogier/Toyota: 2H+3S
Ostberg/Neuville/Tanak: 3H+2S #WRC

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dust a really really bad priblem for Mikkelsen..

[mknight]

Looking at the Highlights I have to say Breen's issue is also a little bit his fault.

The stone was not in the middle of the road, but rather on the outside and most drivers cut the corner. Yes he was following lines of other drivers but since the stone is clearly visible also on Ogier's onboard it must have also been visible in the recce.

Anyway questions for today:
- How much faster will Ogier get?
- Are Paddon and Østberg able to stay near top?
- Will Lappi and Hanninen keep the pace without that much road position advantage?
- Will Mikkelsen drive faster (even with worse road position)?

[AnttiL]

Dust a really really bad priblem for Mikkelsen..

I'm sure there wouldn't be dust problems in the Polo

[WRC1]

Looking at the Highlights I have to say Breen's issue is also a little bit his fault.

The stone was not in the middle of the road, but rather on the outside and most drivers cut the corner. Yes he was following lines of other drivers but since the stone is clearly visible also on Ogier's onboard it must have also been visible in the recce.

Anyway questions for today:
- How much faster will Ogier get?
- Are Paddon and Østberg able to stay near top?
- Will Lappi and Hanninen keep the pace without that much road position advantage?
- Will Mikkelsen drive faster (even with worse road position)?

...the last question is already answered after 2 split times....NO Mikkelsen is significant slower than Sordo despite Sordo is cleaning the road....so it seams this Citroen Car is really a piece of s..t and poor Meeke has to overdrive it all the time to be somewhere near the top....:(

[mknight]

I'm sure there wouldn't be dust problems in the Polo

Looks like same applies for Ogier ;)

[wrc2017]

Now people are beginning to understand...
...the last question is already answered after 2 split times....NO Mikkelsen is significant slower than Sordo despite Sordo is cleaning the road....so it seams this Citroen Car is really a piece of s..t and poor Meeke has to overdrive it all the time to be somewhere near the top....:(

[abxyz]

Looks like we have 2 minute gaps now, terrible decision

[EstWRC]

what the hell, huge dust problems, mikkelsen said he nearly stopped at some points

[AnttiL]

Looks like we have 2 minute gaps now, terrible decision

But Ogier has a 3 minute gap after Lappi

[mknight]

Really, do make conclusions without even the second car on the road getting to finish. How about just a LITTLE patience.

[EstWRC]

idiocy at his best

[KKS]

Tanak first who have green split! Hah, Sordo done well!

[KKS]

.so it seams this Citroen Car is really a piece of s..t and poor Meeke has to overdrive it all the time to be somewhere near the top....:(
Mikkelsen answers yesterday. They won't change his driving style.

[AnttiL]

Paddon flying

[EstWRC]

Tänak very mad at the officials

[stefanvv]

It's getting hot at top 4.

[EstWRC]

Neuville even more angrier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes Paddon great run !

[KKS]

Paddon is only men on stage and after stage-end!

[Mk2 RS2000]

Nice attitude towards the conditions from Hayden, a cool head amongst some hot ones

[KKS]

Nice one Sardegna marshals)))) 2min gaps back just after Ogier! :D
In next episodes: marshals find huge road cuts for Ogier :)

[Augury]

Second place to fourth overall separated by 0.7 seconds. Game on.

[sollitt]

Neuville even more angrier

His cocoa not the correct temperature?

[KKS]

Some champs should be proud competing with that people
#4
https://ewrc-results.com/flags2/newzealand.pngPaddon Hayden - Marshall Sebastian (https://ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/36018-rally-italia-sardegna-2017/1467516/)
"It's very dusty but it's same ever for everybody. It's an opportunity to push on. A lot of times you don't see where you're going. It's what rallying is about sometimes, part of the game."

[Ucci]

Morning's stage-good job by Paddon. I hope he will not become "to optimistic" and crash.....

[WRC1]

ok we can discuss who a real men and who are kids, in my opinion everybody of them is a champ and i really dont see the reason why they (the organisers) reduced the gap from 3 to 2 minutes....?? we have about 50 cars left in competition wich means 150minutes for the whole field to get into the stage....they have 7 and a half hour for the re-run of the stages in the afternoon (!!!!!!) so what the hell is the problem ????

[sollitt]

...the last question is already answered after 2 split times....NO Mikkelsen is significant slower than Sordo despite Sordo is cleaning the road....so it seams this Citroen Car is really a piece of s..t and poor Meeke has to overdrive it all the time to be somewhere near the top....:(
Or removed from the 'team of the silver spoons', he's not actually as good as the hype.

[WUff1]

Mikkelsen still slow, too slow for more rallies in a WRC car this year I think. I´d expected more from him on the second day.

[EstWRC]

lets see if the organizers change it, i dont get why they put 2 minute gaps, everybody were quite mad

[wrc2017]

Then what.. you a guy that beat Ogier fair and square in his last wrc event..
And dominated wrc2..cant get with 1s/k of cars around him. Its clear no driver will risk their reputation driving for citroen now... you think for example lappi would leave toyota to drive for citroen? At least meeke is he can get to the finish there is a chance we can win an event for citroen. At this stage thats all they can hope.for.
Or removed from the 'team of the silver spoons', he's not actually as good as the hype.

[abxyz]

3 minute gaps now

[EstWRC]

finally a sensible decision.

[wrc2017]

It know that early morning there is no breeze to clear dust. Even 3 min gaps in morning..
Then 2 in afternoon. But Haden make a good point.. he sees it as an opperunity.. good for him. But there they ever was an injury, or worse, because of 2 mins gaps and dust.. there would obviously be a serious investigation

lets see if the organizers change it, i dont get why they put 2 minute gaps, everybody were quite mad

[KKS]

3min only for WRC cars?

[sollitt]

3min only for WRC cars?
And there folks, the dilemna for rally organisers.

[KKS]

Look at Lappi splits - this stage is more cleanable. So laterunners should get better times

[EstWRC]

Get lappi Citroen! :p

[KKS]

And there folks, the dilemna for rally organisers.
cuz if 3min for all field - it can't be back to 2min just in regrouping

[EstWRC]

what a split by Tänak

[AnttiL]

Tänak flying

[KKS]

Tanak looking for a win. -4.1 for JML

[mknight]

It's always like that with him though. Always best first split, lets see if he keeps it up.

[PLuto]

3min only for WRC cars?

This is usual. If there are three minutes gaps in WRC events, it is only for WRC cars. Others are not interesting for organisers/FIA...

[KKS]

Good time for Juho, really in pace with Lappi and Ogier

[abxyz]

Nice time from Mads

[mknight]

Latvala saying he's cleaning while being 7th on the road. #feelForOgier?

[KKS]

Tanak lost 3.4 at last sector to Latvala

[EstWRC]

again shit ending

[abxyz]

Tanak lost a lot in the final split

[Eli]

Well done Thierry, 5 seconds quicker than Tanak.

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[BigWorm]

again shit ending

Is Tänak bad at conserving tyres?

[Augury]

That's a nice top 3 battle.

[EstWRC]

Is Tänak bad at conserving tyres?

it seems so and its a mystery that he didnt learn with dmacks last year...

[Lundefaret]

again shit ending

When I look at tires he is usually the one that has worn them the most.

[abxyz]

Mikkelsen stopped

Going again

[Zeakiwi]

I wonder if Mikkelsen will ask for a DS3 if there is a next time?

[SubaruNorway]

Mikkelsen still slow, too slow for more rallies in a WRC car this year I think. I´d expected more from him on the second day.

He said he went with Lefebvre's setup, strange choice since he's the least experienced but guess it was because he was at the test to help. Maybe something there to explain the pace. Breen says the car feels really good at times so can't be that bad.

[abxyz]

Ogier 1 kph?

[EstWRC]

Ogier stopped!!!

[KKS]

Lappi could slow down by Mikkelsen dust. Only 40sec-60sec gap now

[abxyz]

Ogier lost 1:50!

[KKS]

Lappi lost a lot in the dust

[stefanvv]

Ogier lost 1:50!

That would be a changed puncture?!?

[mknight]

Hmm, compare Lappi's reaction to getting slowed in the dust with Neuville's in Portugal.

[KKS]

Hmm, compare Lappi's reaction to getting slowed in the dust with Neuville's in Portugal.
It's a men reaction!

[abxyz]

Ostberg stopped also, there is something tyre killing at 12km

[Simmi]

Hmm, compare Lappi's reaction to getting slowed in the dust with Neuville's in Portugal.

Let's also consider Lappi isn't fighting for the victory. And the two drivers also share the same management.

[stefanvv]

Neuville?

[BigWorm]

What's going on here?

[mknight]

Let's also consider Lappi isn't fighting for the victory. And the two drivers also share the same management.

True, but then you can compare the comments from first stage today.

Lappi: Yeah dust is bad but its the same for everyone.
Neuville: OMG, this is dangerous.

It's just a bit different mentality.

[abxyz]

Neuville losing more time, it's over

[mknight]

Also we have new round of WTCC - World Tire Changing Championships, last round was Portugal in WRC2.

[Eli]

What's happening with Neuville??

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[BigWorm]

What's happening with Neuville??

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Something is not right.

[stefanvv]

Neuville might damaged something at that place

[J_n_z]

Whaaat aaaa rallly! Im becoming antisocial by looking timesheets all the time.

[KKS]

Neuville might damaged something at that place
He start to lose at the beginning. All other have puncture at the middle of stage. It something with a car

[Eli]

Whaaat aaaa rallly! Im becoming antisocial by looking timesheets all the time.
Same here, what a rally!! What a season we have on our hands!!!

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[mknight]

Lol rage is on. But he does have a point.

They opened a can of worms with that Neuville stuff in Portugal. Now everyone will complain.

[stefanvv]

He start to lose at the beginning. All other have puncture at the middle of stage. It something with a car

Punctures happened at the beginning too.

[abxyz]

Latvala seething

[KKS]

Another lady in championship :( Thank you Neuville for bring that lady cry to the championship.