Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2017 [May 18-21]

[Duvel]

So Neuville up to two than?

[AL14]

We have laughed and had fun. Now is time for the emperor to sit back on its throne.

It's restoration time my friends.

[A FONDO]

http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/78f0ddc772cace63546cfd2153ded393.jpg

[Duvel]

Hope Tanak doesn'tt lose to much

[EstWRC]

well, i hate to say but that user mintexmemory or whatever was right but if you want to win you have to for it and he did it...

[stefanvv]

Tanak's car undriveable at the stage end, lost almost minute there.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What did Tanak say... suspension just broke ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SO
"Tänak was doing so well, he set an incredible time in SS11. I hope he can carry on without losing too much. Also important for the team"

[tomhlord]

28 secs already in 4th split, bye guys from me

Tanak, lmao.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MSport
Heartache for @OttTanak - he touches a bank on SS12 and damages the rear suspension, losing more than a minute to the now leading pack...

[BigWorm]

What did Tanak say... suspension just broke ?

Touched a bank.

[Watson]

He should go appeal against the bank he hit.

[er88]

Mistake from Tanak, tut tut. Cracked under the pressure? The guy needs to win an event soon to get this monkey off his back...

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[Allez Andruet]

Can Tänak make it to the service?

[Eli]

So without being noticed Sordo is up to 3rd...not too shabby.

[EstWRC]

Podium is still possible for Tänak I think if he keeps the pace

[tomhlord]

He should go appeal against the bank he hit.

Genius.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Podium is still possible for Tänak I think if he keeps the pace

Ogier: 'That's not good news for Ott. He was doing so well, I hope he can carry on without losing so much. It's important for the championship.'

[er88]

28 secs already in 4th split, bye guys from me
Not finding anything funny fella? Yesterday your were laughing your ass off when other drivers made mistakes ;)

[Watson]

Yeah probably. But I'm pretty sure he hit the bank because he was pushing like mad. He needs an immaculate drive now.

[Mintexmemory]

Ogier: 'That's not good news for Ott. He was doing so well, I hope he can carry on without losing so much. It's important for the championship.'
Off camera - Yesssss!!

[EstWRC]

Not finding anything funny fella? Yesterday your were laughing your ass off when other drivers made mistakes ;)

Only at Meeke. But let it be

[satukata]

Juho Hanninen is driving ok finally... 6th overall is not bad

[AL14]

Juho Hanninen is driving ok finally... 6th overall is not bad

1:40 from the lead without any problem and with favourable road position for all yestarday is the problem...

Anyway, he's being consistent so far, that's a kind of improvement from other events.

[Allez Andruet]

Juho Hanninen is driving ok finally... 6th overall is not bad
So far so good.

[jparker]

Many people, Including Ostberg and Mark Marti looking and touching the Dmacks of Evans before Service in.

[AnttiL]

Anyway, he's being consistent so far, that's a kind of improvement from other events.

In Argentina he had technical issues

These rallies are almost like Safari, the one with the least problems wins, not the fastest

[stefanvv]

Many people, Including Ostberg and Mark Marti looking and touching the Dmacks of Evans before Service in.

You're saying with some washing they're as good as new?

[EstWRC]

Wilson saying to Estonian media that they are doing everything to help Tänak to get on the podium but it will be very hard and he hopes Tänak continues with his pace

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Off camera - Yesssss!!

Very funny.

Ogier needs Tanak to take points off his rivals.

[Mintexmemory]

Very funny.

Ogier needs Tanak to take points off his rivals.

Not exactly - Malcolm needs Tanak to take points off rivals but wins for Tanak could turn him into a competitor for the title. Anyone who could string 3 in a row together could still bring themselves into a strong position.

[AL14]

If only Ogier had rivals...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Not exactly - Malcolm needs Tanak to take points off rivals but wins for Tanak could turn him into a competitor for the title. Anyone who could string 3 in a row together could still bring themselves into a strong position.

I dont believe Ogier wants Tanak to drop out of contention. He needs him to stay motivated to get good results. Nothing in his past indicates he can be a serious title-challenger yet.

In this rally Tanak can still take points off Neuville if he has a problem so Ogier needs him to stay close enough to do so.

[Watson]

I dont believe Ogier wants Tanak to drop out of contention. He needs him to stay motivated to get good results. Nothing in his past indicates he can be a serious title-challenger yet.

In this rally Tanak can still take points off Neuville if he has a problem so Ogier needs him to stay close enough to do so.
Besides they seem to have a good chemistry between each other. Tanak helped fix Ogier's car between stages in Corsica and Evan's in Argentina.

[dimviii]

what left from Evans tyre

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DARClx8XUAAmQ_r.jpg

[dimviii]

Tanak trying to fix the broken shock

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DARAvW-XUAEaaiv.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DARAvWoWsAIplgU.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DARAvWoWsAAMqHO.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DARAvWrW0AAVKkW.jpg

[er88]

I dont believe Ogier wants Tanak to drop out of contention. He needs him to stay motivated to get good results. Nothing in his past indicates he can be a serious title-challenger yet.

In this rally Tanak can still take points off Neuville if he has a problem so Ogier needs him to stay close enough to do so.
I find it hard to believe that a driver who hasn't even won a wrc event yet would lack motivation to get good results, even if he drops further out of contention in the overall championship standings....

Seb looks to have been gifted a win because of Ott's mistake, so I'm sure he's delighted. As things stand he's about to take more pts out of Neuville and Latvala than before Tanak cracked..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If only Ogier had rivals...

As a driver maybe not, but with his Hyundai car/team Neuville is this year.

[EstWRC]

Ott Tänak (5th) said:

“We were having a really good morning and the car felt really good. We were pushing for sure, but also fairly comfortable at the pace we were setting. Unfortunately, we just had some understeer under braking [on SS12] and hit the bank on the outside.

“We damaged the suspension and lost the brakes which made it pretty difficult through the closing kilometres and cost us a lot of time. But what can you do? We just have to pick ourselves up and focus on the next loop.

“We need to do the same job as we did this morning. Get everything fixed, make a good tyre choice, get back into the same rhythm, and see what we can do.”

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/midday-quotes-2017-rally-de-portugal-section-four

[dimviii]

"We are second but a bit too far from first place, we tried to follow but we did not have traction in the first two stages this Saturday, it was a big attack this morning, I tried to be More cautious and more effective in the twelfth special stage, and we have a hard time keeping track of the Ford cars on the pitch, they are faster than us, frankly, I have given everything but they are able to dig, "he said. Belgian driver on the arrival of the ES12.And to add, about the afternoon. "We're going to try to make some adjustments this afternoon and see if we can get closer." Obviously, we'll have to agree not to go and look for Ogier. The whole thing is to stay in touch with Ogier and stay in front of Sordo, "concluded Neuville at our microphone.

[steve.mandzij]

Damn... The last thing we need is Ogier to win again. The issue is that if he does win here, it'll be two wins which have been handed to him. Just wait for when he starts winning on raw pace.

Still gutted over Latvala's roll, but looking on the Bright side the fact he could lead a rally and set top stage times with a fever is remarkable, even if the effects weren't so serious yesterday.

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[dimviii]

Meeke crash
https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/22651-kris-meeke-crash-rally-de-portugal-2017/

[dimviii]

#tyre info - Day 2 - afternoon lap 1/2
Meeke/Breen: 4 Michelin LTX Force H4 +2S5
Lefebvre: 4S+2H
Latvala: 3S+2H
Hanninen: 3H+2S
Lappi: 4H+2S
Tanak/Ogier: 2H+3S
Paddon: 5S
Sordo: 4S+2H
Neuville: 3S+2H

[Grundo Farb]

After a couple of good stages yesterday Paddon is a total shame today again.

Seriously? You are following what is happening on this rally aren't you? Comments like that astound me as to how ignorant you are about what is happening.

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2017/dwi_2017r06portugal-shakedown0363.jpg


https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/36017-vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2017/335/

[er88]

Red bull tv is great. Shame seeing Paddon going slow again

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[dimviii]

DMACK Tyres‏*@DMACK_Tyres
DMACK tyre info: Evans 3S 2H and Ostberg 2S 3H.

[abxyz]

Poor Paddon, he is getting royally fucked by his car again

[er88]

Paddon has retired, not possible to drive the car anymore

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[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2017/jpo_800002-sordo-pn.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2017/jpo_800016-hnninen-pn.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2017/jpo_900003-tanak-test.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2017/jpo_000004-paddon-test.jpg

https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/36017-vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2017/401/

[Duvel]

Paddon has retired, not possible to drive the car anymore

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Pretty sure seb said turn the car, not drive the car. Heavy inpact, gravel flying over windscreen, next corner problem starts.

Some have put there car higher becouse of deep ruts

[satukata]

Paddon has retired, not possible to drive the car anymore

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Powersteering problem

[Duvel]

Can Lefevre`s co driver see anything? Helmet is very low...

[EstWRC]

Can Lefevre`s co driver see anything? Helmet is very low...

He wants to hide his face because of lefebvres slowness

[Duvel]

He wants to hide his face because of lefebvres slowness

Solar screen, funny sight. Still impressed by the speed of the 2017wrc monsters!

[sonnybobiche]

RedBull TV live commentary has is Chen and Carlos Sainz! Why would anyone watch anything else?

[Eli]

RedBull TV live commentary has is Chen and Carlos Sainz! Why would anyone watch anything else?
True that.

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[stefanvv]

RedBull TV live commentary has is Chen and Carlos Sainz! Why would anyone watch anything else?

I'm also watching the splits.... and where is Neuville going?

[dimviii]

Neuville 4,2 faster at 1st split from Ogier

[dimviii]

DMACK Tyres‏*@DMACK_Tyres 41s
42 seconds ago

More drama for @ElfynEvans with a burning smell inside the car, but he only drops a little time.

[EstWRC]

cmon Ott, more speed please

[satukata]

Great time for Lappi. 7th and only 6 sec behind

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice coverage by Red Bull... so nice without Desborough's voice ! :)

[Eli]

Nice coverage by Red Bull... so nice without Desborough's voice ! :)
& as a bonus Carlos Sainz in the commentary box.

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[dimviii]

Mikkelsen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAR03wZWAAAJzlh.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Oi Thierry, mind your dust ! ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DARyz3lWsAABhFg.jpg:large

[seb_sh]

Nice coverage by Red Bull... so nice without Desborough's voice ! :)

Yes I also watched that, nice production also with the segment with Carlos and Luis at the start. It's great to have a proper knowledgeable commentator paired with a "play by play" one.

Only problem is I didn't find out which town Kris Meeke is from :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good effort today by Latvala with a fever.

[AL14]

I want Tanak, Paddon, Latvala and Breen to win this rally.

Breen, you are the next.

Next time better if I will shut my mouth up.

[BigWorm]

Hänninen stopped.

[KKS]

Haninnen stoped ( If he cracks by this kind of Lappi pressure... it's not good

[Mintexmemory]

Damn... The last thing we need is Ogier to win again. The issue is that if he does win here, it'll be two wins which have been handed to him. Just wait for when he starts winning on raw pace.


Unlikely that Seb O will need to win on raw pace this year - all the competition are prone to error because they believe effort makes the difference. Far from being handed to him all of Ogier's podiums are due to a perfect execution of strategy.

[mknight]

Dunno about you but I am quite impressed by Lappi so far.

[BigWorm]

Dunno about you but I am quite impressed by Lappi so far.

He's one of the next flying finns.

[Eli]

No fuel pressure in Juho's car...so his car is under pressure ey? ;)

[lnvs]

Haninnen stoped ( If he cracks by this kind of Lappi pressure... it's not goodJuho was guessing fuel pressure issue, so seem like Lappi is releasing pressure. :D
I have no idea why would Juho have pressure from Lappi?

[seb_sh]

Breen, you are the next.

Next time better if I will shut my mouth up.

Tyre problems for Breen, the curse of AL14 strikes again!

[satukata]

Great Lappi. He try to beat latvalas time! :) He catch Evans soon!!

[Eli]

Tyre problems for Breen, the curse of AL14 strikes again!

He said something with the front of his car isn't right.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier wins the stage and 23s lead now.

[Ucci]

Ogier wins the stage and 23s lead now.

Fantastic job by Ogier. He is finaly there, where he belongs. At the TOP!

[Eli]

Ogier wins the stage and 23s lead now.

And that's before the long one (37K)...if he keeps his nose clean he should be clear for the win. Just when I hadn't put him 1st in the pickems after 2 consecutive rallies which I had....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Unlikely that Seb O will need to win on raw pace this year - all the competition are prone to error because they believe effort makes the difference. Far from being handed to him all of Ogier's podiums are due to a perfect execution of strategy.

He is beating Neuville, his main challenger, on pace here. No car problems for Neuville (plus he got that time back).

[Ucci]

Just when I hadn't put him 1st in the pickems after 2 consecutive rallies which I had....

Same story for me.....

[Eli]

Same story for me.....

What a bit of rotten luck ey?

[EstWRC]

Tänak has taken 10 seconds out of Breen and the long one to go now.

[mknight]

Listening to Meek after every stage today is like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE

[BigWorm]

Ogier is great in Portugal. No way he will lose this on pace, it would need a mechanical failure to stop him.

[KKS]

Juho was guessing fuel pressure issue, so seem like Lappi is releasing pressure. :D
I have no idea why would Juho have pressure from Lappi?
cuz they in one team, drive one car and old Juho try to beat young Lappi and prove that he need contract for 2018 year

[satukata]

https://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp3

[itix]

He should go appeal against the bank he hit.
Don't be retarded. Neuville lost time due to someone else. Tänak didn't.

Really...

[AL14]

Tyre problems for Breen, the curse of AL14 strikes again!

Unbelievable, they were the TOP4 in the overall after 6 stages the moment I wrote that.
Jesus I will not do it anymore. :D

[EstWRC]

man some of you guys are taking the things said here so seriously, more humour please

[mknight]

Evans off on SS11 is up, 7 mins in. Quite far off, looks like he maybe got caught in the rut just before.

[abxyz]

Great split by Lappi, even faster than Neuville

[stefanvv]

Great split by Lappi, even faster than Neuville

no worries, Ogier is coming.

[KKS]

And Lappi in trouble

[stefanvv]

Tanak will melt Breens' advantage half only 2nd split

[steve.mandzij]

Latvala really flying, on par with Neuville and Ogier. Imagine the battle we'd have if he hadn't rolled!

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[EstWRC]

Tänak going great again finally

[abxyz]

Lappi pulled over for evans, nice of him

[steve.mandzij]

Are they going to compensate Evans, Lefebvre and Hanninen's times now?

[stefanvv]

Toyota drivers are such gentelmen. How can someone think Latvala slowed Neuville?!?

[BigWorm]

Sad for Lappi, but there have been positives. More rallies to come for him.

[er88]

Latvala really flying, on par with Neuville and Ogier. Imagine the battle we'd have if he hadn't rolled!

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Imagine what Meeke would've done if he didn't run wide, imagine what Paddon would've done if it wasn't for his car failures. Imagine what Tanak would've done if he didn't crack while in the lead....

Reality is that this rally was wide open for anyone of Paddon, Meeke, Tanak or Latvala to win but all the pretenders have blown it, handing the likely win to Ogier. And he's the man who drives with his head, is calm when things aren't going his way and knows how to win championships...

Will be interesting to see what Thierry can do in the next few rallies, and whether he can keep the pressure on in the championship.

[abxyz]

Ogier 6.2 slower

[N.O.T]

short stages tomorrow... i do not think Neuville can do it by driving only....

[EstWRC]

Tänak took Breen, up to 4th now what should have been a win....but like er88 is writing some pervious posts above, they all had a chance but i dont agree 100% with his post :p

[Ucci]

Almost a perfect day for Ogier. Smart & calm performance by him. Solid lead for the sunday stages. I hope he will bring second victory in this year to Malcom.
Apart him I'm happy to see Sordo on 3rd place.

[dimviii]

9 (!!!) different stage winners so far.

RallyingUK *

More
RALLY DE PORTUGAL: Stage wins so far on @rallydeportugal :
Ogi 4
Neu 4
Tän 2
Pad 2
Øst 2
Lat 1
Sor 1
Mee 1
Bre 1

[mknight]

Mikkelsen goes into last day with over 3 min lead. Enough time to change tire and order pizza.

[AL14]

How cute they are <3

https://i.imgur.com/YFaflAG.png

[mknight]

WTCC - World Tire Changing Championship

[dimviii]

also Camilli had stopped at same stage

[BigWorm]

9 (!!!) different stage winners so far.

RallyingUK *

More
RALLY DE PORTUGAL: Stage wins so far on @rallydeportugal :
Ogi 4
Neu 4
Tän 2
Pad 2
Øst 2
Lat 1
Sor 1
Mee 1
Bre 1

And 7 different rally leaders this rally. Must have been a while since that happened.

[Eli]

And 7 different rally leaders this rally. Must have been a while since that happened.

And still most of them made mistakes/had problems....so Ogier will win his 40th WRC victory & 5th time in Portugal, equaling Markku Alen's record. Hopefully Thierry & Latvala can both take a good haul of points between them in the power stage and deny the extra 5 points from Ogier.

[EstWRC]

Tänak will take the five points tomorrow, i have reserved them to him

[Eli]

Tänak will take the five points tomorrow, i have reserved them to him
From your mouth to Tanak's time.

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[BigWorm]

Tänak will take the five points tomorrow, i have reserved them to him

Careful, there have been jinxes in here in the past.

[Eli]

Careful, there have been jinxes in here in the past.

You might wanna jinx Ogier, so at least he won't have it quite so easy taking his 5th consecutive title ;)

[EstWRC]

im gonna try to jinx Ogier now

i want him to win every rally this season

[Eli]

im gonna try to jinx Ogier now

i want him to win every rally this season

say it like you mean it ;)

[dimviii]

amazing pass from Paddon

https://twitter.com/RorroTTorres/media

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So all FOUR of the 2017 M-Sport Ford's are in the Top 8 here and they've had no technical issues AT ALL.

Great job by Wilson' s team getting on top of the previous issues.

Over to the multi-million Euro factory teams to sort out their unreliable cars.

[steve.mandzij]

So all FOUR of the 2017 M-Sport Ford's are in the Top 8 here and they've had no technical issues AT ALL.

Great job by Wilson' s team getting on top of the previous issues.

Over to the multi-million Euro factory teams to sort out their unreliable cars.
So the only time that the Fiestas have no issues gives you the right to mock the other teams?

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[Eli]

So all FOUR of the 2017 M-Sport Ford's are in the Top 8 here and they've had no technical issues AT ALL.

Great job by Wilson' s team getting on top of the previous issues.

Over to the multi-million Euro factory teams to sort out their unreliable cars.

Yeah the cars seems very very fragile this year, also on another note, I really hope Ford will change there mind & come back to the WRC fray in 2018, would be really nice (& good for the sport).

[olemann]

Can look like only two participants have the nerves under control like Ogier and Mikkelsen in each of their classes.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18620125_1358314410915124_1479699119178613327_n.jp g?oh=d3e2befb200708109ca45b8cb57e0482&oe=59B2AAC9
https://www.facebook.com/pg/timoanisphotography/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1354187517994480

[psychemedia]

Rally report to date from the f1datajunkie robot reporter: https://psychemedia.github.io/WRC_sketches/wrcTest-slides-Portugal.slides.html#/

[er88]

Yeah the cars seems very very fragile this year, also on another note, I really hope Ford will change there mind & come back to the WRC fray in 2018, would be really nice (& good for the sport).
Well if they don't come back its bye bye Seb, and he'll got to a manufacturer. He's said as much himself...

[dimviii]

2017 season to date by Gary Boyd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DASpO9fUQAAVZ7K.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DASrAwWUQAEE8xB.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DASq9q9UwAA51aj.jpg

[Eli]

anybody has a link to the press conference? or do I just need to wait here: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/livecenter/page/4175----.html

[Kielder]

Pics from both runs of Vieira do Minho:

http://i67.tinypic.com/25kpgnr.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/1248zzm.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/akjpyo.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/1zqyk3d.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/2h4m0s4.jpg

[dimviii]

Great day today! 2 fastest times. We are 2nd, 16.8 behind @SebOgier. It's game on!

Now my 2nd 'job' starts #CodrivingTheWorld #ProudDaddy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DASwIEjXUAAJTqT.jpg

[stefanvv]

Well if they don't come back its bye bye Seb, and he'll got to a manufacturer. He's said as much himself...

There are only 2 options for him (right now) - Ford & Toyota. Toyota are pretty full, unless they decide to retire Hanninen.

[mknight]

Yeah let's pick Hanninen over Ogier and/or Mikkelsen.

[dimviii]

Lefebvre has best comments

Stéphane Lefebvre‏
I struggled to get my bearings in the car. During service, we made significant progress with the set-up. It was an instructive day! #WRC

[EstWRC]

There are only 2 options for him (right now) - Ford & Toyota. Toyota are pretty full, unless they decide to retire Hanninen.

Toyota arent full...Tommi gave an interview to estonian press today and he said he wants Tänak and they made 1 year deals with all of their drivers.

[steve.mandzij]

Toyota arent full...Tommi gave an interview to estonian press today and he said he wants Tänak and they made 1 year deals with all of their drivers.
He better not get rid of Latvala.

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[AnttiL]

2017 season to date by Gary Boyd


Cool graphs, keep em coming! The middle one should say Portugal and not Argentina though?

[macebig]

Breen had a spin trying to avoid some bits from Lappi's car that where in the middle of the road, on the final stage.

[mknight]

Demand compensation from stewards :D

[COD]

everyone with a functional brain...

So not you then

[COD]

Lappi has done a good job: no mistakes, and steady job. Ok, no stunning times, but maybe in next rally

[BigWorm]

Lappi has done a good job: no mistakes, and steady job. Ok, no stunning times, but maybe in next rally

Well he did hit a wall on the last stage, but that's a part of the learning process. Other than that a very good job so far, some impressive times today.

[AnttiL]

Lappi has done a good job: no mistakes, and steady job.
He hit a wall and lost 5 mins on tonight's last stage, I'd count that as a mistake. Other than that he's done a good job and had just found his pace.

[Eli]

Considering the amount of mistakes (almost) everyone made in this rally it is an OK rally for Lappi, OK maybe he's no Loeb but also he's no Ogier, remember his debut in Wales Rally GB '08 when he rolled like a million times & finished 26? Again this is a different era & level of competition and of-course a different rally but you also have to remember that the difference today between the R5 cars and WRC cars is much bigger than the S1600 & WRC cars back then. Also for Lappi, he isn't in the strongest team (as Ogier was back then). So please cut him some slack, it's only his first proper rally, give him some time until you start slamming him with "compliments".

[stefanvv]

Demand compensation from stewards :D

Just watched the highlights, Ogier was caught by Neuville's dust on SS14, but didn't get stressed by this. Probably no appeal from him.

[N.O.T]

Just watched the highlights, Ogier was caught by Neuville's dust on SS14, but didn't get stressed by this. Probably no appeal from him.

http://i.imgur.com/8LZ2dFV.gif

[Mk2 RS2000]

How many faulty power steering units has Hayden had to endure so far this season?

[dimviii]

eWRC-results‏*@eWRCresults
Reports of burned car to Hiroki Arai at Amarante 2 stage

[AnttiL]

the difference today between the R5 cars and WRC cars is much bigger than the S1600 & WRC cars back then.

Off topic but I can't agree.

[Eli]

Off topic but I can't agree.
Ok maybe I was a bit exaggerating...

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[Kielder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pLaaRbpoGE

[Tarmop]

Considering the amount of mistakes (almost) everyone made in this rally it is an OK rally for Lappi, OK maybe he's no Loeb but also he's no Ogier, remember his debut in Wales Rally GB '08 when he rolled like a million times & finished 26? Again this is a different era & level of competition and of-course a different rally but you also have to remember that the difference today between the R5 cars and WRC cars is much bigger than the S1600 & WRC cars back then. Also for Lappi, he isn't in the strongest team (as Ogier was back then). So please cut him some slack, it's only his first proper rally, give him some time until you start slamming him with "compliments".

How can you say that a purpose-built NAE FWD car was more similar to a WRC car than a 4wd purpose-built car? One that on a good day, good stage and good driver can be really quick,k even WRC quick.

[Eli]

How can you say that a purpose-built NAE FWD car was more similar to a WRC car than a 4wd purpose-built car?
Sorry I got confused with the S2000 cars.

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[Andre Oliveira]

eWRC-results‏*@eWRCresults
Reports of burned car to Hiroki Arai at Amarante 2 stage


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAVV99cXUAMAUPv?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pLaaRbpoGE

amazing place at 0,16!

any personal opinions about what you watch so far Kielder?

[Zeakiwi]

Can M-Sport rebuild Arai's car?

[seb_sh]

Can M-Sport rebuild Arai's car?

Yes if by rebuild you mean throw it away and build a new one.

[Eli]

Good Morning everyone, so what do you say, Ogier takes win number 40 or will Neuville manage to snatch it from him at the very last moment?

[dimviii]

#Tyre info - Day 3
All Michelin #WRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force S5
#RallyPortugal


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAVYXeSXcAEnZv1.jpg

[AnttiL]

Good Morning everyone, so what do you say, Ogier takes win number 40 or will Neuville manage to snatch it from him at the very last moment?

Neuville could pull off the same as in Argentina. Anyway it is, I hope it's through driving and not technical issues.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAVaTL2XcAAEyFd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAVaTL0XYAEIPe_.jpg

[EstWRC]

Wow what a crowd and Estonian flag flying high!

[Eli]

Neuville couls pull off the same as in Argentina. Anyway it is, I hope it's through driving and not technical issues.

I hope so too, I wanted to say 16 seconds isn't a big gap but when it's Ogier in front and he doesn't have road-sweeping duties, will be tough to catch him.

[Mintexmemory]

I hope so too, I wanted to say 16 seconds isn't a big gap but when it's Ogier in front and he doesn't have road-sweeping duties, will be tough to catch him.

Far more likely Neuville will overcook it in pursuit than Ogier will lose a 16 second lead. Any driver with pretensions of being world champion should learn from the way Ogier has approached this rally.

[Eli]

Far more likely Neuville will overcook it in pursuit than Ogier will lose a 16 second lead. Any driver with pretensions of being world champion should learn from the way Ogier has approached this rally.

Yes you're probably right, we can only hope he (& anyone capable) takes away the power stage points from Ogier, 'cause in the end they might (just) make a difference.

[dupanton]

Is there a livestream of Fafe1 on RTP? Link?

[Eli]

Is there a livestream of Fafe1 on RTP? Link?

https://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp1

Here you go ;)

[KKS]

Far more likely Neuville will overcook it in pursuit than Ogier will lose a 16 second lead. Any driver with pretensions of being world champion should learn from the way Ogier has approached this rally.
It's not Ogier reward, it's just other make all wrong. Or you think Paddons car wreck cuz he chasing Ogier?

[dupanton]

https://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp1

Here you go ;)

Does not work :(

[Eli]

Does not work :(

Use google Chrome & hola unblocker, then tell it you're in Portugal. Should work then.

[N.O.T]

https://de.wiiz.tv/rtp1.php

[Mintexmemory]

Yes you're probably right, we can only hope he (& anyone capable) takes away the power stage points from Ogier, 'cause in the end they might (just) make a difference.

I don't - the champ is the champ for a damn good reason. He is so much more the complete package than any of the others. He will have looked after his tyres so well that I'd bet he'll win the PS

[dimviii]

Yves Matton‏*@Yves_Matton
A lot of fans and media would love to see the Matador testing a #C3WRC. What do you think @CSainz_oficial? #WRC

[6789]

Yves Matton‏*@Yves_Matton
A lot of fans and media would love to see the Matador testing a #C3WRC. What do you think @CSainz_oficial? #WRC

Matton admitting that the C3 needs development?

[Eli]

Yves Matton‏*@Yves_Matton
A lot of fans and media would love to see the Matador testing a #C3WRC. What do you think @CSainz_oficial? #WRC

It's funny he says that because: https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/artikel/d/2017/05/19/sainz-hat-lust-auf-world-rally-car-2017/ & I quote:"But Citroën Racing shows little interest. "We see no need for that," Team-chief Yves Matton dismissed."

[maciotacio]

For sure, Sainz would do better than Lefebvre

[macebig]

Its stupid not to accept help from a man that has worked on the development of every championship winning car for the last 15 years...And he was also very influential in Impreza's 555 develop, Mk1 Focus and various championship winning Toyotas...

[Sulland]

It's funny he says that because: https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/artikel/d/2017/05/19/sainz-hat-lust-auf-world-rally-car-2017/ & I quote:"But Citroën Racing shows little interest. "We see no need for that," Team-chief Yves Matton dismissed."

if so, call the Gazoo boss!

[abxyz]

Gilbert crashed on Fafe jump, car just landed on its nose

[Eli]

just switched to it, crazy.

[EstWRC]

Tänak

SS17: "Trying to save tyres for the Power Stage. I thought I was going at quite a steady pace but looking at the time I'm far too fast!"

Lol

[dimviii]

Paddon with very fast 1st split. Pitty he had problems.

[cosmin_sb]

I did not see Tempestini on the stage it was the first driver after Quentin :(

[rallyfiend]

For sure, Sainz would do better than Lefebvre

Compare Mikklesen in R5 to Lefeb in 2017 WRC on that stage.

0.1 of a second.

[Eli]

Compare Mikklesen in R5 to Lefeb in 2017 WRC on that stage.

0.1 of a second.

Its a joke honestly, I don't know or see how Citroen are expecting to win anything this year or even the next with Kris Mcrashing all the time.

[EstWRC]

Spin for paddon and meeke

[dimviii]

1er passage dans Fafe* : 2016 VS 2017
*
WRC : 6'49" VS 6'39"
R5 : 7'07" VS 6'55"

[Ucci]

So, Ogier is doing serious business-stage 17; 3,3 sec faster than Neuville. Game over for Neuville.....

[N.O.T]

So, Ogier is doing serious business-stage 17; 3,3 sec faster than Neuville. Game over for Neuville.....

it was game over since yesterday.

[KKS]

1er passage dans Fafe* : 2016 VS 2017
*
WRC : 6'49" VS 6'39"
R5 : 7'07" VS 6'55"
Looks like R5 machinery have a better improvement than WRC with +80bhp :D

[macebig]

1er passage dans Fafe* : 2016 VS 2017
*
WRC : 6'49" VS 6'39"
R5 : 7'07" VS 6'55"

So, Mikkelsen with Polo WRC 16 is just 6 sec faster than Mikkelsen with Fabia R5 17..

[KKS]

Paddon have a good times cuz all other just cruising? Sweet old Sunday driving?

[Mintexmemory]

So what we have learned from this rally:
1) Reports of Fiesta unreliability were exaggerated
2) There must be more than contractual issues that have stopped Toyota or Citroen offering Mikkelsen a drive
3) There is consistent and there is fast and only Ogier is both!

[mknight]

1er passage dans Fafe* : 2016 VS 2017
*
WRC : 6'49" VS 6'39"
R5 : 7'07" VS 6'55"

So R5s got more than 1s/km faster since last year? :-)

It merely points out that the effects of small differences in conditions and how each driver pushes are way too big on short stages for any big conclusions.

[Mintexmemory]

it was game over since yesterday.

For once we are in complete agreement (goes to lie down in darkened room!)

[krissucool]

Why has Breen been moving like a snail from the end of yesterday?

[AnttiL]

Tidemand made a great time, Suninen can't do anything anymore

[RS]

Very nice time by Tidemand on SS17. I rather thought he and Mikelssen have set some pretty good times with their R5 cars vs. the new WRC17 cars.

[Mirek]

So R5s got more than 1s/km faster since last year? :-)

It merely points out that the effects of small differences in conditions and how each driver pushes are way too big on short stages for any big conclusions.

Of course not. Last year there were huge gaps in WRC2 before the stage and most likely everybody was only cruising. Now we have a) Mikkelsen and b) fight between Tidemand (last year's winner) and Suninen.

[AnttiL]

So, Mikkelsen with Polo WRC 16 is just 6 sec faster than Mikkelsen with Fabia R5 17..

On that stage, it seems that WRC cars don't have much advantage on R5 cars.

[Augury]

Tidemand made a great time, Suninen can't do anything anymore

Tidemand was 5 seconds faster than Lefebvre, heh.

[EstWRC]

Everyone in cruise mode but fafe2 will be interesting

[Eli]

Everyone in cruise mode but fafe2 will be interesting

That jump especially.

[dimviii]

Sun 10:28 - SS18: Delay
Gorban was due to start at 1020hrs

[KKS]

Sun 10:28 - SS18: Delay
Gorban was due to start at 1020hrs
how much delay will be?

[KKS]

Delay maybe because of SS16 was interrupted, and noone after Gilbert was started SS17

[dimviii]

Sun 10:34 - Delay update
Following Gilbert's stage-blocking crash on SS16, organisers are regrouping the cars before SS18. Crews behind Gilbert drove through SS16 at road speed.

[mknight]

Of course not. Last year there were huge gaps in WRC2 before the stage and most likely everybody was only cruising. Now we have a) Mikkelsen and b) fight between Tidemand (last year's winner) and Suninen.

You know you can turn this around.

Last year in Polo WRC Mikkelsen was pushing hard to keep Ogier behind him. This year same driver is "cruising" cause he has 3 mins lead and is only 0.5s/km slower in an R5 car. So this years R5 is about as fast as last years fastest WRC? Really.

TLDR, too short stage and too many variables for any conclusions

[KKS]

And Paddon will win PS? 2nd Tanak and 3rd Neuville?

[dimviii]

Sun 10:39 - Delay update
Gorban's new start time: 1055hrs

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gilbert jump crash

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/866226984988356608

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAV0kC8XcAE27p7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAV1wa-W0AEbGcK.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAV1cWfXkAASFDg.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAV0acWXkAAL0iT.jpg

[Lundefaret]

Very nice time by Tidemand on SS17. I rather thought he and Mikelssen have set some pretty good times with their R5 cars vs. the new WRC17 cars.

As I am sure you know, disadvantage in sec pr km (R5/WRC17) changes with stage character.
Good thing with Andreas in R5 is that you get a real indication (top driver in R5 vs top driver in WRC17).To be very general, R5 is fast where you dont need a lot of acceleration.
This can be on a very fast stage, or a technical stage which goes from corner-to-corner. But as soon as acceleration becomes an issue, (distance between corners) they will loose more.
So worst stage for R5 would be with 90 degree junctions followed by long (100 meters+), in combination with long fast corners (lack of downforce).

On Andreas: If he was in Citroën, all makes would fight for wins on every rally.

[BigWorm]

And Paddon will win PS? 2nd Tanak and 3rd Neuville?

Paddon will be earlier on the road on the PS than on the first run of Fafe, so maybe but not as given.

[[RMC]Pip]

On Andreas: If he was in Citroën, all makes would fight for wins on every rally.

I simply can't understand why Citroen doesn't recruit him. The competition will only get fiercer next year, Citroen needs him to have any chance against other makes.

[EstWRC]

Paddon ss17 https://twitter.com/Vity_Arias/status/866235757215846401

[BigWorm]

Pip;1138977']I simply can't understand why Citroen doesn't recruit him. The competition will only get fiercer next year, Citroen needs him to have any chance against other makes.

They might be talking to him for 2018 as we speak, but that's behind closed doors.

[macebig]

I think Mikkelsen in ths back of his mind hopes for a miracle.What miracle?VW to rethink their withdrawal and return next year with the new Polo in WRC form.I don't know if there is any realistic chance on that, but I feel like Andreas is keeping his fingers crossed for that.

[dimviii]

Paddon ss17 https://twitter.com/Vity_Arias/status/866235757215846401

same spot spin for Meeke

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke and Paddon both spinning when they're not even on a push. Those two guys are going backwards.

[stefanvv]

Will Fafe2 run on normal schedule?

[Mirek]

That big hole in the road from Gilbert has to be removed before second run or we'll see another similar big crash.

[danon]

engineer solution - moving the jump next to the hole

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAWDF7wXsAAHA2-.jpg

[dimviii]

Stéphane Lefebvre

#WRC #RallyPortugal SS18
I made a mistake in the first corner and lost 5 seconds. After that I took no risks.

[EstWRC]

Tänak https://twitter.com/rallyinguk/status/866242772193423360

[stefanvv]

Stéphane Lefebvre

#WRC #RallyPortugal SS18
I made a mistake in the first corner and lost 5 seconds. After that I took no risks.

If You think that's funny, see this:
SUN 11:46 - SS18: NEUVILLE"It was okay. I tried to avoid using the tyres."

[dodge33cymru]

Argh, how does WRC+ still not allow Chromecasting......

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[EstWRC]

Estonian tv showing the last stage at the moment and there was an long interview with Wilson and basically he says that if ford doesn't come back then ogier is gone and he didn't seem very hopeful about it.

[maciotacio]

Any livestream link for power stage?

[stefanvv]

should be live on RTP 1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Argh, how does WRC+ still not allow Chromecasting......

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Stream to CC via Chrome on your PC/ laptop.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAWGf-NXsAAnf1T.jpg

[abxyz]

Dungannon mentioned!

[dimviii]

Any livestream link for power stage?

https://de.wiiz.tv/rtp1.php

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon surprisingly positive at the finish.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Cool jump Kris !

[EstWRC]

Paddon seven seconds slower than in the morning

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi committed on that !

[BigWorm]

Lappi - spectacular!

[stefanvv]

Jumpy Lappi

[dimviii]

krismeeke.com‏*@krismeeke
6:45.5
The jump seems a bit different this year, something has changed on the take-off, you have to take care.

[itix]

Good time from Lappi it seems, compared to Latvala!

[EstWRC]

What a jumps!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Woaaaah Mads haha !

[GravelBen]

Woaaaah Mads haha !

That was gold!