Wrc Rally Argentina 2017

[KKS]

SS11 was delayed?

[ZequeArgentina]

Yes, starting exactly at this moment

[satukata]

i dont like this... Hope they can run it normally. maybe spectetors in wrong places?

[KKS]

it's starts.
First car Sordo at 09:30from start line

[EstWRC]

neuville https://twitter.com/LoveRally_Magui/status/858297535571668992

[KKS]

lucky boy.

[KKS]

Looks like this cars driving on dark side of Moon... no connection, no splits, real rally :D

[Allez Andruet]

What the hell happened with GPS and splits?

[stefanvv]

What the hell happened with GPS and splits?

weak signal it seems.

[N.O.T]

That is what happens when you let useless countries organising events and give them immunity despite numerous fuck ups...

Sordo finished the stage.

[KKS]

no splits
no gps
no stage-end reporter

so no final stage times? see you at the end of day to find who was where? :/

[CWJ]

Sordo 20:27.9

[Lundefaret]

Looks like this cars driving on dark side of Moon... no connection, no splits, real rally :D

If you have been on the stage, its actually a bit like being on the moon :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No info all adds to the variety and excitement of Rally Argentina..

[N.O.T]

Last years fastest time on the first run of this stage was 20.34 by Paddon, Sordo already a lot faster...

Ogier lost 24 seconds to the leader on this one last year but he was cleaning the road.

[N.O.T]

20.06 by paddon almost 1 sec/km faster than last year.

[macebig]

20.03.1 Ott Tanak

[EstWRC]

Tänak 54 secs faster than with dmack's last year

[N.O.T]

we have splits for WRC2... lol

[KKS]

we had stage end connection too..... but only for 3 minutes :D

[EstWRC]

Tänak past Ogier in overall

[N.O.T]

Tanak ahead of Kaisers husband now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville big moment SS10, was pretty lucky to get away with it.

https://twitter.com/LoveRally_Magui/status/858297535571668992

[KKS]

Malcolm fingers now on a big red button :D and ready to push :D

[EstWRC]

Neuville 0.9 faster than Tänak

[N.O.T]

Neuville fastest, he pulls away from tanak and Ogier.

[KKS]

only afternoon re-run will decide a rally.... I guess

[EstWRC]

Mads still stayed in front of Tänak with 3.4 seconds

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solid time by Evans.. :)

[N.O.T]

Evans 5.6 slower.

[satukata]

This is so boring... What you think can F1 lost split times and interviews!! Why this happend in WRC so often??

[HaCo]

Evans 5.6 slower.

With such an advantage he can only throw it away... he can ask my countryman TN ;)

[KKS]

And Meeke win a stage . Good job m8!

[USER47]

This is so boring... What you think can F1 lost split times and interviews!! Why this happend in WRC so often??
F1 takes place in a tightly controlled environment. Providing a coverage on a fixed circuit is much easier than providing the same coverage on various 20-30km stages in the middle of nowhere.

[GravelBen]

This is so boring... What you think can F1 lost split times and interviews!! Why this happend in WRC so often??

F1 has no risk of losing contact with split times because it never goes anywhere interesting.

And losing all contact like this doesn't happen often at all, so I don't know what you're making such a big deal about.

[satukata]

F1 takes place in a tightly controlled environment. Providing a coverage on a fixed circuit is much easier than providing the same coverage on various 20-30km stages in the middle of nowhere.

I´m from finland and we have never this kind of problems in Rally Finland....

[Watson]

This is so boring... What you think can F1 lost split times and interviews!! Why this happend in WRC so often??
because in track racing everything is in one place and much easier to manage.

[satukata]

Now we get some splits for WRC cars. LOL!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And Meeke win a stage . Good job m8!

Michelin_Sport 2m2 minutes ago
SS11: @krismeeke broke the record of SS11 by nearly 20 seconds

[satukata]

I love WRC so much that I want get every info what is possible. Great to see now splits maybe work on ss12

[satukata]

Hope JM can find better speed and fight for better positions. Puncture was bad luck!

[jparker]

F1 takes place in a tightly controlled environment. Providing a coverage on a fixed circuit is much easier than providing the same coverage on various 20-30km stages in the middle of nowhere.

Technology solutions are available, but the wrc.com clowns don't want to invest in it.

[satukata]

Technology solutions are available, but the wrc.com clowns don't want to invest in it.

We have technology what works in moon, so what is so hard in WRC countries LOL

[KKS]

Tomi now should call to Andreas... it's clearly visible now that Juho is too old for this :( +37.9 to Sordo

[rallyfiend]

Technology solutions are available, but the wrc.com clowns don't want to invest in it.

It's the FIA, not wrc.com.

The Timing people work for the FIA.

[AL14]

Technology solutions are available, but the wrc.com clowns don't want to invest in it.

As long as fans are happy with whatever you deliver, even if it seems a postwar product, and have low standards they focus their efforts on other stuff.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So here we go again. Fiestas let them down. feel sorry for them.

I wonder if M-Sport didn't pass on the hydraulics fix to Ostberg's team as they aren't nominated for manufacturer points, so are seen as competition ?

[Mirek]

We have technology what works in moon, so what is so hard in WRC countries LOL

Of course if You are willing to lose billion Euro in every event You can do what You want. Seriously people don't think only about what is technically possible but also what is realistic from the money point of view. Reliable quality live coverage from rally stages is very very expensive. That's simply a fact.

[Lundefaret]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-koE1MU0AAOsPe.jpg

Do every team have their own watch dog? Is this coordinated through the organiser?

[jparker]

As long as fans are happy with whatever you deliver, even if it seems a postwar product, and have low standards they focus their efforts on other stuff.

If you do something that has such exposure, you have to do it right, or don do it at all. Otherwise you look like a fool.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier slow now...

[satukata]

Tomi now should call to Andreas... it's clearly visible now that Juho is too old for this :( +37.9 to Sordo

Juho have engine problems. But it´s clear Juho is too slow. Tommi should call soon!! Manufacturer championship is important

[mknight]

Of course if You are willing to lose billion Euro in every event You can do what You want. Seriously people don't think only about what is technically possible but also what is realistic from the money point of view. Reliable quality live coverage from rally stages is very very expensive. That's simply a fact.

Sound connection from the end of the stage only needs an Iridium phone with some 300 USD to buy the phone l + 1-2 USD min/charge. Cant see how that is unrealistic from the money point of view.

Also they mentioned they have some satellite link (guessing Inmarsat), but they "didn't take it with them to the stage cause it didn't work last time". Oh well, professionalism.

[rallyfiend]

Sound connection from the end of the stage only needs an Iridium phone with some 300 USD to buy the phone l + 1-2 USD min/charge. Cant see how that is unrealistic from the money point of view.

I've used Iridium and Inmarsat phones before.

they're far, far from reliable....

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-lZ_-dXgAAC4kQ.jpg

[USER47]

Wow, nice Ostberg's first split...

[mknight]

I've used Iridium and Inmarsat phones before.

they're far, far from reliable....

Point is, they don't even take them with them.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg fastest split 1 !

[satukata]

Ogier´s speed is pretty poor... slowest ford. Not looking for Champ

[BigWorm]

Ogier slow in here, almost on par with road opener Sordo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Ostberg's hydraulic problem cured itself ?

[EstWRC]

i suspect puncture for Ogier

[USER47]

Meeke crazy fast on first split...

[A FONDO]

https://twitter.com/LoveRally_Magui/status/858297535571668992 neuville off the road again

[EstWRC]

Neuville and Tänak very close today in stage times

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg fastest... could be a stage win. (Meeke quick but on rally2)

[mknight]

https://twitter.com/LoveRally_Magui/status/858297535571668992 neuville off the road again

That's SS10 and about 3rd "close" call for him this weekend.

[EstWRC]

Evans lost 12 seconds and Neuville "only" 44 secs behind now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Now Evans lost time... worrying.

[satukata]

That's SS10 and about 3rd "close" call for him this weekend.

Neuville is lucky this time!! He wasn´t so lucky in other rallies...

[satukata]

Meeke crazy fast on first split...

I´m so sorry but Meeke make too many mistakes.. Speed is there but this is not sprint rally.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads Østberg‏ @MadsOstberg 13s14 seconds ago
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PLEASE HELP US GET THE LOST DIFFUSER BACK TO SERVICE! Mads lost it in watersplash approx 8km into SS10 A SURPRISE FOR THE ONE RETURNING IT.

[satukata]

What have happend to Mads Slowsberg? He is driving great rally!

[Franky]

What have happend to Mads Slowsberg? He is driving great rally!

He has been always faster in a private outfit than in a factory one.

[USER47]

PLEASE HELP US GET THE LOST DIFFUSER BACK TO SERVICE! Mads lost it in watersplash approx 8km into SS10 A SURPRISE FOR THE ONE RETURNING IT.
This is becoming his season2017 tradition:-D. He got the wing back in Sweden, hopefully he will get the diffuser back as well.

[EstWRC]

Tänak with two spins in SS13 and lost only 1.1 secs to Meeke, what the?

[BigWorm]

What have happend to Mads Slowsberg? He is driving great rally!

He's always been fast in Argentina.

[satukata]

Evans lost 12 seconds and Neuville "only" 44 secs behind now

Now really FIGHT starts! And Evans have to take some risks.. Nice to see what happend. And next stage is LIVETV :)

[dimviii]

Εvans had a puncture

[satukata]

Εvans had a puncture

ss11 yes slow puncture but what happened in ss 12?

[dimviii]

ss11 yes slow puncture but what happened in ss 12?

puncture was at stage 12

[satukata]

puncture was at stage 12

soon we can hear more.

[KKS]

Now really FIGHT starts! And Evans have to take some risks.. Nice to see what happend. And next stage is LIVETV :)
Do you really think that 44 sec gap still catchable for Nueville?

[Simmi]

Ostberg has the fire back it seems. I think a lot of his issues were in the right foot department and his confidence seems to be good.

[EstWRC]

Tänak with two spins in SS13 and lost only 1.1 secs to Meeke, what the?

correcting

Ott Tänak‏ @OttTanak 10m10 minutes ago
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SS12: "We had a spin in the last stage and a spin in this one too. Need to have a look at that in service, but otherwise okay." #WRC #Delfi

[satukata]

Do you really think that 44 sec gap still catchable for Nueville?

Pressure is rising. He lost more than 20 sec

[denkimi]

Do you really think that 44 sec gap still catchable for Nueville?

well he won 20 seconds in the last 2 stages. if nothing happens to evans it can't be done, but a puncture can happen to everyone.

[satukata]

Evans went wide.. pressure?

[KKS]

Pressure is rising. He lost more than 20 sec
Cuz of puncture...
Do you expect more punctures from Evans in the afternoon?

[dimviii]

Evans went wide.. pressure?

Sat 11:31 - SS12: Evans
The Welshman explains his time loss on the last two stage. "A slow puncture in the long stage, then on this one we went wide in a corner near the end - I got a bit lost in the notes - and picked up a rear puncture."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Østberg SS12 13:19.3 "I have no rear diffuser. Losing time on the high speed. Did well considering. Handbrake & diff working now"

[Watson]

Ogier:
Seventh quickest on stage and Seb explains why he has been off the pace this morning: "There is something wrong. The car has been undriveable all morning. For sure something is broken." He heads to service in fifth place 1m16.6sec off Evans' lead.

There better be something broken. He is the slowest amongst his teammates and Tanak is having trouble also.

[Simmi]

Interesting afternoon in store. Given his issues on the first two rounds, does Neuville push on and risk throwing away more big points. Or does he continue to try and put Evans under more pressure - knowing that the Welshman is in uncharted territory...

Tough call, but if Neuville wants to overhaul Ogier this year he needs to take some serious points out of him.

[N.O.T]

Interesting afternoon in store. Given his issues on the first two rounds, does Neuville push on and risk throwing away more big points. Or does he continue to try and put Evans under more pressure - knowing that the Welshman is in uncharted territory...

Tough call, but if Neuville wants to overhaul Ogier this year he needs to take some serious points out of him.

Neuville has no choice especially after the team orders in Ford that will put ogier behind him.

[EstWRC]

what are you on? what team orders?

[N.O.T]

what are you on? what team orders?

be patient kid.

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-lqfUzWsAA_Rps.jpg

[Watson]

be patient kid.
what's the matter with you? why so condescending? you act like a child.

[EstWRC]

Tänak has to get his act together. Without his silly mistakes in the morning he would be past ostberg already

[N.O.T]

second loop should start any moment...

[A FONDO]

RB is live https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84GRBED1W11/fia-world-rally-championship

[Rallyper]

WRC and WRC+ doesn´t work for me.

Edit: wrc.com works.

[Simmi]

Looked like Sordo hit the exact same bank as Thierry this morning. Got away with it though.

[HaCo]

RB is live https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84GRBED1W11/fia-world-rally-championship

Thanks for sharing!!!

[AL14]

Nice job from Tanak!
This stage is very nice. I like it

[stefanvv]

Tanak & Ogier on a mission now

[Rallyper]

Evans really doing surprisingly good.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice start to the afternoon for the M-Sports... :)

[A FONDO]

Wonderful show wonderful stage and they were pushing so so hard most of them :beer:

[AL14]

Who is the guy talking with the commentator?

[bluuford]

Who is the guy talking with the commentator?

You mean Wilson Matt?

[stefanvv]

Who is the guy talking with the commentator?

Malcolm's boy, You don't know him?

[EstWRC]

That was just amazing to watch! Great stage

[AL14]

Malcolm's boy, You don't know him?

Lol no, I know him but didn't remember the face.

BTW, have I seen right? In RBtv you can chose the driver in a stage and follow him the whole time???
That would be a massive feature!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak happy with the car and shows with the time.

SS13: "Car feels really good and handling very nicely now. Really enjoyed that stage. Really smooth with some big jumps too!"

[stefanvv]

Lol no, I know him but didn't remember the face.

BTW, have I seen right? In RBtv you can chose the driver in a stage and follow him the whole time???
That would be a massive feature!

Not the whole time I think, only when he is shown.

[stefanvv]

Tanak happy with the car and shows with the time.

SS13: "Car feels really good and handling very nicely now. Really enjoyed that stage. Really smooth with some big jumps too!"

If the two M-Sport guys continue to attack, next 2 stages will be interesting. Hope nothing dramatic happened to Evan's car though.

[cali]

Do every team have their own watch dog? Is this coordinated through the organiser?
Sick dogs ;)

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[MikeD]

What on earth is going on in Mäkinens head, keeping Hänninen in the team. He is even worse than Lefebvre! Havn't seen such rubbish performance since the Slowson days!

[Allez Andruet]

What on earth is going on in Mäkinens head, keeping Hänninen in the team. He is even worse than Lefebvre! Havn't seen such rubbish performance since the Slowson days!

He must have some problems... again. And I mean Juho, not Tommi. Surely Bertelli isn't 20 secs faster than him halfway through the stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mSJGYWsAAO-Gs.jpg

[Simmi]

Looks like Evans has also lost the diffuser there. Will hamper him on the faster stuff but not the end of the world.


Bit daft that people are slating Hanninen on this event. His car hasn't been worth the freight costs so far this rally.

[Tarmop]

If Paddon can`t come up with a good explenation for his late start, then F them. I actually liked them, but this is bad.

[KKS]

Looks like Ogier so tired of all this. Maybe he want to retire? I think wrc only win of this :)

[MikeD]

He must have some problems... again. And I mean Juho, not Tommi. Surely Bertelli isn't 20 secs faster than him halfway through the stage.

But he has been embarrassingly slow at every rally this year. His list of excuses has been long, but he honestly doesn't belong in a WRC car. He's simply not talented enough for this level.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Find him !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mTUlFXoAE_R86.jpg:large

[bugwrx]

Seems like Hyundai is worried about Tänak ...

[KKS]

Latvala? All ok?

[gorganl2000]

Find him !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mTUlFXoAE_R86.jpg:large


happy chap aint he?!...lol
maybe he will seek the special prize that awaits

[Allez Andruet]

But he has been embarrassingly slow at every rally this year. His list of excuses has been long, but he honestly doesn't belong in a WRC car. He's simply not talented enough for this level.

When did you start following rallying? The only embarrasing thing here is your pathetic writing. Yes, his season's been terrible so far, but please just **** off with the "not talented enough" BS.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mTKcUXYAE-_Xd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mJ3PKXsAALHfJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mIPMSXoAEKNLf.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mIRo2XUAAA9qt.jpg

[KKS]

diffuser problem just caught Evans now.... long and safe way to service m8!

[satukata]

mads braking behind msport fords... Team order?

[bluuford]

Ott has 2 hard tyres, Hyundai only softs

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Happy with his Fiesta, Tanak is really flying this afternoon...

[AL14]

What's happening to Ogier? Where is fighting spirit? These huge stages are his field...

[EstWRC]

mads braking behind msport fords... Team order?

Reality when starting positions are equal

[KKS]

mads braking behind msport fords... Team order?
don't think so... just normal Mads pace comeback.

[N.O.T]

When did you start following rallying? The only embarrasing thing here is your pathetic writing. Yes, his season's been terrible so far, but please just **** off with the "not talented enough" BS.

the only talent hanninen has is that he is finnish and that is the only thing the paper bloated champion saw in him and brought him in to munch on the autistic japanese yen.

[dimviii]

Sat 14:27 - Tyre choices
Here are the afternoon tyre choices (number and soft or hard compound) of Michelin's WRC crews: Sordo/Neuville/Paddon: 5S. Latvala/Hanninen/Tanak/Ostberg: 3S&2H. Meeke: 4S&2H. Ogier: 4S&1H.

[N.O.T]

evans on the same pace as ostberg... he could have a battle for the win tomorrow if he continues like that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Did RedBullTV say Ostberg has replaced his rear diffuser ? I couldnt see for the dust.

[Allez Andruet]

the only talent hanninen has is that he is finnish and that is the only thing the paper bloated champion saw in him and brought him in to munch on the autistic japanese yen.
I think we're all well aware of your "issues". It's ok, don't worry.

[KKS]

Yeah.... joint time Neuville! Uhhhhyyy.. battle battle!

[Simmi]

Did RedBullTV say Ostberg has replaced his rear diffuser ? I couldnt see for the dust.

It looked like they had replaced it but I'm not 100%. I guess they don't have enough spares to be gifting them to fans though.

[EstWRC]

Tänak and neuville glued today, lol

Whole day close times

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ha ha :D

https://twitter.com/Cadena3Com/status/858382512212627456

But Ostberg stopped now. :(

[MikeD]

Østberg stopped

[KKS]

Mads? what? I miss radio

[A FONDO]

Incredible how close they finish this 38km stage... if the timing is not fabricated of course.

[N.O.T]

lets see if m-sport stop the other fords as well....

[KKS]

^^^

lol

[stefanvv]

Evans will lose some time this afternoon.

[mknight]

Incredible how close they finish this 38km stage... if the timing is not fabricated of course.

Tinfoil hat on!

[cosmin_sb]

WRC TV crews report rear damage to his Fiesta. He is stopped in stage - 4km before the finish

[Fast Eddie WRC]

lets see if m-sport stop the other fords as well....

They can damage the car remotely ? Shut up, they dont even run the car.

[AL14]

There will be no team orders at M-Sport. It would be stupid from them at this point of the championship and after the crazy push from Ott today

[Rallyper]

WRC TV crews report rear damage to his Fiesta. He is stopped in stage - 4km before the finish

Now, he has had rear damage all afternoon. Something else?

What happened to Meeke?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke again. WTF.

[cosmin_sb]

Meeke also stopped

[KKS]

There will be no team orders at M-Sport. It would be stupid from them at this point of the championship and after the crazy push from Ott today
Even that DMack put a LOT of money to MSport. And DMack didn't care about Ogier, they care about himself and Evans... only!

[KKS]

What a dramatic rally we have!

[stefanvv]

That's it. Matton's blood pressure will reach its heights.

[Rallyper]

Mikkelsen to Citroen in Portugal. Remeber where you aw it first. ;)

[N.O.T]

They can damage the car remotely ? Shut up, they dont even run the car.

14 NORM. OSTBERG M-SPORT WORLD RALLY TEAM

who provides parts for ostberg ? does he have a manufacturing unit ?

basic....

[dimviii]

Meeke rolled.

[cosmin_sb]

Now, he has had rear damage all afternoon. Something else?

What happened to Meeke?

Mads is working on the car - in the right-rear wheel / suspension area

[KKS]

Mikkelsen to Citroen in Portugal. Remeber where you aw it first. ;)
Entry list was closed more than a week ago

[Simmi]

Oh Kris :(

[dimviii]

75,8 stage kms more.Will Evans manage to stay in front of Neuville-Tanak?

[KKS]

Oh Kris :(
Jesus Christ? :D

[abxyz]

Bertelli stopped

[A FONDO]

That's it. Matton's blood pressure will reach its heights.

Fat cheeks willl lose at least half a kilo sweating :D

[Eli]

I didn't catch today & again everybody will start rally 3 ;)

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[mknight]

Well now Evans lost 0.4 s/km, 0.4*75=30s. Can be close.

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg‏*@MadsOstberg
"We hit a rock. Broken rear suspension" #WRC

[BigWorm]

Bertelli stops... was in 7th... this is too much

[mknight]

Mads Østberg‏*@MadsOstberg
"We hit a rock. Broken rear suspension" #WRC

For sure Malcolm put it there.

[KKS]

Well now Evans lost 0.4 s/km, 0.4*75=30s. Can be close.
It just because he lost his rear diffuser. He must have proper car for tomorrow

[stefanvv]

75,8 stage kms more.Will Evans manage to stay in front of Neuville-Tanak?

well his car will be fixed for tomorrow's 55kms

[KKS]

And Paddon have a 1min penalty for being late for 6min at TC SS14

[itix]

Meeke! Aaaargh you endless source of frustration.

[gorganl2000]

Meeke rolled.

i await the explanation...i really do

[Simmi]

Tell you what - I really hope Argentina can firm up their spectator safety situation as this is one event we cannot lose from the championship. Epic year on year!

[stefanvv]

i await the explanation...i really do

may be his front anti-roll bar wasn't set right?!?

[A FONDO]

For sure Malcolm put it there.

This is team orders, the biker will tell you :o

[N.O.T]

you are not very patient kids... lets see when the rally is over where Ogier will finish.

I would like to see the onboard from Ostberg...

[gorganl2000]

That's it. Matton's blood pressure will reach its heights.

i really hope he's not doing any rallies any time soon...he may well have troubles with the drug testers given the amount of tablets he will have in his system after this weekend---smh

[KKS]

may be his front anti-roll bar wasn't set right?!?
it's perfect! :D :D :D

[satukata]

Looks like Ott is faster than Ogier in gravel. Go Ott!!

[N.O.T]

Neuville tries to make the best of Evans problems...

[stefanvv]

Hyundai's tactics to delay Paddon works for the moment. Let's see tomorrow.

[KKS]

Hyundai's tactics to delay Paddon works for the moment. Let's see tomorrow.
And what they benefit of it?

[stefanvv]

And what they benefit of it?

1-2 seconds per stage due to more cleaning for Ott.

[stefanvv]

wow Neuville 2nd split

[abxyz]

EE only 0.4s down on first split, all is well

[EstWRC]

Neuville unbelievable, tactics worked for Hyundai

[KKS]

Massive 2nd split from Neuville. C'mon let's battle for 1st begin!

[KKS]

1-2 seconds per stage due to more cleaning for Ott.
hm....yeah. it could be

[stefanvv]

Tell you what - I really hope Argentina can firm up their spectator safety situation as this is one event we cannot lose from the championship. Epic year on year!

wrc in general is much more appealing this year. But yes, Argentina provides lot's of drama.

[N.O.T]

Great stage for Neuville, his push worked....

[BigWorm]

Neuville flexing his muscles, get in

[KKS]

let's wait what Evans does

[stefanvv]

This stage we'll see what Evans has to win rallies.

[EstWRC]

Amazing day from neuville and Tänak today

[abxyz]

Evans 12s down, something happened

[N.O.T]

Slow second split by evans... we have a fight kids.

[KKS]

Evans lost a 1.1 sec at 2nd sector to Sordo.... he's on trouble

[EightGear]

We've got a fight tomorrow

[N.O.T]

This stage we'll see what Evans has to win rallies.

He is welsh... maybe a sheep mutton trimming competition...

[dimviii]

Evans 18,9 slower

[stefanvv]

This stage we'll see what Evans has to win rallies.

Well, may be tomorrow.

[EightGear]

Only 11.5 left

[BigWorm]

What a day from Neuville and Tänak. The pressure is on Evans for tomorrow.

[mknight]

Prbly puncture or something

[gorganl2000]

excellent job from neuville this afternoon.
i still think Evans is doing a fairly good job considering everything

[KKS]

What a fantastic rally!

[EstWRC]

Evans lost his rally here, neuville will smell it now

[N.O.T]

finally some excitement... lets see if malcom ruins everything for us tomorrow.

[AL14]

Hats off to Neuville. What a great fighting spirit. Also Tanak great job and beaten his teammate. Ogier not in the mix for I don't know which reason.

[Mrpengski]

Good effort by Neuville, tomorrow should be interesting!!

[stefanvv]

Hats off to Neuville. What a great fighting spirit. Also Tanak great job and beaten his teammate. Ogier not in the mix for I don't know which reason.

Yeah, great loop for Neuville. Ogier & Latvala seem to be settled with their positions for me. Can't explain it in other way.

[abxyz]

Evans will do a Paddon, he has the speed

[eib1]

leg 2 only results:
https://ewrc-results.com/leg.php?e=36016&s=134209&leg=2&t=YPF-Rally-Argentina-2017

[Simmi]

Not going to have any fingernails left by tomorrow afternoon. Come on Elfyn!!!

[KKS]

What Evans says to rally radio?

[abxyz]

What Evans says to rally radio?

"We haven't come all this way to finish second, ff he wants it, he's going to bloody fight for it!"

[Simmi]

"We haven't come all this way to finish second, ff he wants it, he's going to bloody fight for it!"

Keee-mon Elfyn!

[kubiczech]

"We haven't come all this way to finish second, ff he wants it, he's going to bloody fight for it!"

Legend :-)


... he also said that he had problem with the back of the car, tend to oversteer with spin on last stage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great attitude from Evans. If his car is ok he will take on Neuville.

[KKS]

"So maybe tomorrow, I find my way" by WRC radio now..... perfect! just perfect! :)

[N.O.T]

The question is... Will neuville fight and risk everything against a guy that has nothing to lose ??? or he goes for 2nd and expects wilson not to give team orders ?

In sweden m-sport opted for the safe choice and let latvala win. Lets see how risky hyundai is especially with paddon out....

[Simmi]

Absolutely no chance Wilson asks Elfyn to go steady tomorrow.

[N.O.T]

Absolutely no chance Wilson asks Elfyn to go steady tomorrow.

the hard choice would be if Neuville goes ahead on stage 1...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Absolutely no chance Wilson asks Elfyn to go steady tomorrow.

Dont even argue with the troll... the same one who said Ostberg's time loss was 'team-orders'.

[jacko]

Evans has the financial support from and drives with DMack so i don't think Wilson will give any order for the moment (to possible upset DMAck), maybe only in the end of the season where the big price is there. But why now talking about orders, first let's see what the first stage brings. I think a win for Evans is the best thing M-Sport can have, also for Ogier.

[A FONDO]

M-sport employee working on team orders http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/9c04c42871bfb1296f4e99ea3c11f8f1.gif :rotflmao:

[jparker]

I still don't understand how EE can be so competitive one day, and loose everything the next day. What happened with Dmack advantage?

[bugwrx]

bacause he had problems with car today which he didnt have yesterday ?

[stefanvv]

Why are we even talking about team orders? Did I missed something? Aah I see, because there are no honors to talk about, pity.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I still don't understand how EE can be so competitive one day, and loose everything the next day. What happened with Dmack advantage?

Today he had no road position advantage, two punctures & loss of rear bumper & aero.

[jparker]

bacause he had problems with car today which he didnt have yesterday ?

What problems?

[jparker]

Today he had no road position advantage, two punctures & loss of rear aero.

Yet, he had clean runs with speed a lot slower than yestarday.

[BigWorm]

If there was to be a team order for Elfyn it's to keep 1st and to do that he needs to push. Of course he'll go for it.

[stefanvv]

Yet, he had clean runs with speed a lot slower than yestarday.

You don't follow the rally, do You?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke roll #2

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mzN77XkAAUMn0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mzN73XYAQZ-vy.jpg

[Roy]

What problems?

Así quedó el Ford Fiesta de Evans / This is how Evans' car looks like 🚙🔧⚙️ #YPFRallyArgentina2017 https://t.co/YXi8wqrS8O

[BigWorm]

Meeke roll #2

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mzN77XkAAUMn0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-mzN73XYAQZ-vy.jpg

My god, that looks even worse

[Tarmop]

Great success indeed, this time at least un-rollable, maybe damaged the cage.:(

[mknight]

Tactic dilemmas:

Evans has nothing to loose imo and will try to push, he has already shown speed. Champ points don't matter for him personally and for team there are 2 other fords.
Neuville, prbly starts fast and see. If he is not closing in he wouldn't risk it, he is gaining points on Ogier after all.
Tanak is likely to push no matter what.
Ogier I think he will play it safe and focus on power stage, hoping one of those ahead makes a mistake. Either way he'll be extending on Latvala and a point loss to Neuville even if he wins wouldn't be very high.

The narrow and twisty bits are going to suit Hyundai more than Ford.