Neste Rally Finland 2016

[Rallyper]

New name (well, only partly) and soon we´ll have Rally Guide1 in our hands. 22nd of March it´ll be official.

IT IS TIME COUNTING DOWN FOR THIS YEARS CENTERPIECE IN WRC!! Neste Rally Finland!!

And as no one else started the thread I´ll do it. Welcome!

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/

[tommeke_B]

Looking forward to see the Rally Guide. Coming to Finland for the 3rd time (after 2012 and 2014). Hoping for an itinerary similar to the one of 2014, I don't think it can be much better than that. :)

[Simmi]

Anyone think we'll get a few different stages this year? Awesome event - heading back over there myself for a fourth time. Might be good to see them shake things up a bit on the Saturday.

[Eli]

what happened to the Oil of Neste Oil Rally Finland?

[Rallyper]

Just change of direction of company Neste, and the name of the rally followed. Think the brand dont want to be connected to oil, because they processing eco-diesel products.

[EstWRC]

We have already bought our ferry tickets about a month ago, cant wait! Highlight of my summer.

[OldF]

The rally guide 1 should be published 24.3. In a Finnish forum there’s rumours that NRF could include stages used 20 years ago.

[pantealex]

100% fact that there will be many different stages than 2015.

[Hartusvuori]

Please, drop the acronym NRF. NORF was already too bad. Rally Finland it is.

What we know SS Harju will be run on Thursday and Friday. Most likely it'll be the only stage on Thursday. Also news about a new (but old) stage in Äänekoski, North of Jyväskylä, on Friday are solid. Of course other rumours too, but let's just wait one more week and then we'll know for sure. I'm hopeful and of course already waiting!

[OldF]

Please, drop the acronym NRF. NORF was already too bad. Rally Finland it is.

Jyväskylän Suurajot :)

[sindroms]

Of course other rumours too, but let's just wait one more week and then we'll know for sure.

No. I am tired to wait and was hoping for Rally Guide 1 in this week already. So... Bring on all the rumors! :D

[pantealex]

Jyväskylän Suurajot :)

or 1000 Lakes Rally

[Mintexmemory]

Bring back the 1000 Lakes!! See you there guys

[HarriK]

Route live just now: http://areena.yle.fi/1-3364040 (don't know if this can be seen outside Finland)

[pantealex]

Many "new" stages and many reversed stages. (ie. Ruuhimäki shakedown, Ouninpohja and Päijälä.)

[Simmi]

Good to see them at least reversing stages. Brings in a new challenge for the drivers and different spectating possibilities.

[tommeke_B]

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/ralli/uutiset/neste-rally-finland-route-more-rally-for-everyone/ For spectators the itinerary looks great. I expect the powerstage to be quite overcrowded... :)

[Hartusvuori]

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/ralli/uutiset/neste-rally-finland-route-more-rally-for-everyone/ For spectators the itinerary looks great. I expect the powerstage to be quite overcrowded... :)

What makes you think Power stage will be overcrowded? There's another stage run twice on the same day. That'll help.

[tommeke_B]

What makes you think Power stage will be overcrowded? There's another stage run twice on the same day. That'll help.

Both stages are quite short. Any idea of how many access roads there could be? :)

[Hartusvuori]

Both stages are quite short. Any idea of how many access roads there could be? :)

I'd say zero access roads for SS Lempää and perhaps one for SS Oittila. Also no access roads for SS Saalahti.

In general I'm very excited about the route and schedule. A lot to study before the event. Also 43% new for drivers. Should favour drivers like Paddon. Also I like the early mornings. Potentially possible to do 9-10 stages in the rally.

[Rallyper]

I'd say zero access roads for SS Lempää and perhaps one for SS Oittila. Also no access roads for SS Saalahti.

In general I'm very excited about the route and schedule. A lot to study before the event. Also 43% new for drivers. Should favour drivers like Paddon. Also I like the early mornings. Potentially possible to do 9-10 stages in the rally.

Need to get info from you guys from now on. Where did he go that guy J... something. Did a lot of work preRallyFinland stuff a couple of years ago.

[Rallyper]

Juha_Koo it was.

[EstWRC]

Ouninpohja reversed? Has that been so before? i cant imagine that place reversed where we were last year, drivers coming down with sequences of jumps and then turned to left, now they must climb up from there.

[Rallyper]

Ouninpohja reversed? Has that been so before? i cant imagine that place reversed where we were last year, drivers coming down with sequences of jumps and then turned to left, now they must climb up from there.

What spot do you talking about?
As senior member you´d know and remember 2008... ;)

[Hartusvuori]

Ouninpohja reversed? Has that been so before? i cant imagine that place reversed where we were last year, drivers coming down with sequences of jumps and then turned to left, now they must climb up from there.

This is actually now more of an original version of Ouninpohja. Like Rallyper said, previous time they run the stage partly in this 2016 direction was in 2008, but then it was the small road Pitkäjärventie and only from Kakaristo to halfway Okskulmantie and they took a junction right to a smaller road (which again was used in 2014 the opposite direction). I think the actual Ouninpohjantie (with Yellow House jump) has not been run in this direction since mid 90s. Up until mid 90s it was mostly used in this direction, start of the stage being in Kakaristo junction. There were some years they run it from Hämepohja to Kakaristo (the 2000 format) in the historic year, like the year Timo Mäkinen had the bonnet of his Mini up.

And for sure Ouninpohja in this direction offers a great variety of different spectating points compared to opposite direction. Still the 150+ jumps and overcrests remain... It's also notable that Ouninpohja will be the first stage of the day, 1st run before 8AM. You have to be fully woken up not to lose 15 seconds - or the whole rally.

[Hartusvuori]

What spot do you talking about?

Sounds like a well-known place on the small road. Huttunen had an off there last year - or at least parts of his car were there after the rally.

[Simmi]

Many "new" stages and many reversed stages. (ie. Ruuhimäki shakedown, Ouninpohja and Päijälä.)

Ruuhimaki will be reversed? I didn't see this in any of the announcement information?

[EstWRC]

thanks for the answers...to Rallyper...i have been to the rally only once and i didnt follow rally very closely after Märtin retired. 2006-2010 is kind of a dark time for me and i dont remember much from Märtin's era because i was so young then. Started following again when Tänak entered in PWRC in 2010.

[Hartusvuori]

Ruuhimaki will be reversed? I didn't see this in any of the announcement information?

It was said in Finnish in the press conference.

[Rallyper]

Ruuhimaki will be reversed? I didn't see this in any of the announcement information?

Can be seen if you study carefully the overall map launched today. :)

[SubaruNorway]

What spot do you talking about?
As senior member you´d know and remember 2008... ;)

Pretty sure he means the first spot in my video fromlast year :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m5EWTGARvQ

[Rallyper]

Pretty sure he means the first spot in my video fromlast year :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m5EWTGARvQ

Ok. I know that place at the end of the stage. Saw CMR there in 2001 and after that I thought no one could be as crazy as him, which later became more than true. But on your vid it was JML, right. Crazy as well. :)
But many places on Ouninpohja will be well worth seeing this coming year, for sure!

[SubaruNorway]

Ok. I know that place at the end of the stage. Saw CMR there in 2001 and after that I thought no one could be as crazy as him, which later became more than true. But on your vid it was JML, right. Crazy as well. :)
But many places on Ouninpohja will be well worth seeing this coming year, for sure!

No, that's Ogier, blue mirrors ;)

[Rallyper]

Still crazy drive, comparable to CMR almost...

[jiipee64]

The last jump is huge in Ruuhimaki!!!!!

[Hartusvuori]

The last jump is huge in Ruuhimaki!!!!!

Shhh... I want to be there alone :-)

[EstWRC]

you mean this years ruuhimäki? We will be also there then :p

[sindroms]

The last jump is huge in Ruuhimaki!!!!!

Even bigger when it was first? :)

[jiipee64]

I' ve seen pretty amazing jumps there.

[Simmi]

The last jump is huge in Ruuhimaki!!!!!

I figured this would be the case. Going in the, let's say normal, direction that first jump was very impressive. Will definitely be walking in to see what it's like now.

[Rallyper]

The last jump is huge in Ruuhimaki!!!!!

You mean the first jump on last years last jumps? :)

[Hartusvuori]

I figured this would be the case. Going in the, let's say normal, direction that first jump was very impressive. Will definitely be walking in to see what it's like now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F81uL4kT1QM

From early June last year. White Corolla GT driver got hurt and required an ambulance.

Most propably you can't get this good view on safety standards of WRC event + it'll be hugely crowded. But they'll fly. They'll fly before that jump many times, but this... different. Maybe worth for waking up at 3AM...

[Rallyper]

Anyone doing some recce on new stages this weekend?

[satnav]

Rally Guide 1 is now available on the web site as well ;

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/kilpailijoille/

[SubaruNorway]

Saalahti is that the Lukyanuk crash test road?

[sindroms]

Saalahti is that the Lukyanuk crash test road?

Not exactly:
"Yijalantie is a short 3.8km run that consists a variety of everything you’ll find in Finland including several jumps where Alexey Lukyanuk had a reasonably severe crash during testing for Rally Finland."
Yijalantie is next to Saalahti stage.

[satnav]

Flights and Accom booked finally going to Rally Finland , just need lots of help picking viewing spots now folks ........

[Mintexmemory]

Flights and Accom booked finally going to Rally Finland , just need lots of help picking viewing spots now folks ........

Second that request!!

Still space available in car (1) and accomm (3)

[Hartusvuori]

Registered entries for Rally Finland will be shown on the event website this year: http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/kilpailijoille/vastaanotetut-ilmoittautumiset/

Not much yet, but next weeks it'll heat up.

[Hartusvuori]

Marcos Ligato will do Finland in DS3 WRC.

https://twitter.com/marcosligato/status/739793831806283776

[ZequeArgentina]

Marcos Ligato will do Finland in DS3 WRC.

https://twitter.com/marcosligato/status/739793831806283776

Woow, surpised by the news!!

I was not expecting any more outing by Ligato.
In my opinion, this is not the best round to entry, with no rythm with WRC cars (he is running a MaxiRallly, not even R5 speed), and with years since not doign it (10 years at least).
But on the other hand, surely he found the way ($$$) and giving he is more close to the end of his carreer than any other thing, he must be doing for the fun of it.
He will try to go fast, but for sure he will have fun.

Good for Ligato!!!

[Simmi]

Good news for Ligato. I'd assume (more like hope) that indicates that Citroen will be there in that semi-works capacity - and it's not just rent-a-ride like Argentina. I think we all really want to see Meeke do Finland. Let's see what the entry is like. Hopefully Ligato takes the car destined for Al Qassimi and not Meeke/Lefebvre/Breen.

[EstWRC]

Meeke MUST be in Finland, there cant be any other option.

[satnav]

Meeke MUST be in Finland, there cant be any other option.

I hope he's there for I will be

[Mintexmemory]

I hope he's there for I will be

As will I - Quick question - will it be easy to buy our rally passes at the Hotel Alexandra in Jyvaskla on wednesday 27th July. Just don't trust international mail for tickets. Grand Prix tickets are e-mailed.

PS still a place in the car and accommodation - leaving Helsinki Airport at 9 am (latest) on 27/7 and returning for 2pm on 1/8

[Hartusvuori]

As will I - Quick question - will it be easy to buy our rally passes at the Hotel Alexandra in Jyvaskla on wednesday 27th July. Just don't trust international mail for tickets. Grand Prix tickets are e-mailed.

PS still a place in the car and accommodation - leaving Helsinki Airport at 9 am (latest) on 27/7 and returning for 2pm on 1/8

You can buy rally passes at any Neste gas station on your way to Jyväskylä. It's a pass, to hang around your neck, difficult to email. I think you can't buy them at your hotel, but any Neste station and service park should do ok.

EDIT: Just read from the website, there is an official ticket stand at your hotel.

[Hartusvuori]

Meeke MUST be in Finland, there cant be any other option.

It's been written Meeke will do Finland, but how realible was the source, it's unknown. But I'm really confident Citroen will be in Finland with Meeke.

Wondering about Ligato, could he do Germany too, while at it?

[HarriK]

Meeke doing just now tests in Finland.

[Mintexmemory]

You can buy rally passes at any Neste gas station on your way to Jyväskylä. It's a pass, to hang around your neck, difficult to email. I think you can't buy them at your hotel, but any Neste station and service park should do ok.

EDIT: Just read from the website, there is an official ticket stand at your hotel.

Thanks for the info - Just to clarify I"m not staying at that hotel - just that it is mentioned on the NORF website. I'm actually staying in a cabin at Kangasniemi - Can't wait!!

[Hartusvuori]

Thanks for the info - Just to clarify I"m not staying at that hotel - just that it is mentioned on the NORF website. I'm actually staying in a cabin at Kangasniemi - Can't wait!!

Cabin in Kangasniemi sounds better. Enjoy your stay!

[dimviii]

Meeke doing just now tests in Finland.

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing

To celebrate the return of the sun, a bit of yellow on the @Citroen #Test3 livery! ����☀️ #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkVyi9aW0AAq4bD.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkWf-_UUYAEv9X0.jpg

[Hartusvuori]

19 year old Juuso Nordgren won AKK's Star of the Future prize drive for Rally Finland. He will be entered for the event in WRC3 DS3 R3T.

This prize was awarded to under 25 year old drivers doing best in Finnish Championship in R2 cars after 4/6 events. Best three were chosen to selection after Saturday's event. Nordgren, as last season's junior champion and known fast driver, were the fan favourite and obvious choice anyway. He will now step into the path of Teemu Suninen ja Jari Huttunen, the previous two Stars of the Future. Hopefully Juuso will grab this enourmous chance!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck_PN7XXAAAf5zC.jpg

[Rallyper]

Finnish TV station YLE drives through NRF 2016 SS7 Äänekoski-Valtra stage with Riku Tahko. (Can be seen in Sweden at least)
Such a demanding stage. Looks very fast and tricky!

http://areena.yle.fi/1-3516473

[janvanvurpa]

Finnish TV station YLE drives through NRF 2016 SS7 Äänekoski-Valtra stage with Riku Tahko. (Can be seen in Sweden at least)
Such a demanding stage. Looks very fast and tricky!

http://areena.yle.fi/1-3516473

Oi oi oi that will be a FAST stage that's for sure..
I wonder how they arranged such beautiful weather?

(and i wonder how people who live on these roads resist the urge to go "maximum attack" on these roads?..I have a scenario in my head that Pekka and Erja arrive home from shopping 40km away, and when they are unloading groceries Erja discovers that Pekka "forgot" to get kex or godis so Pekka "No problem, I'll drive back and get some"..........1 Hour later Pekka is back, and sweating and smiling with stupid grin... Erja has discovered that Pekka forgot coffee "Oi va dum! I'm sooooo forgetful...Don't worry I'll be right back!"
And out he goes, another 40km---full gas...sideways!

This could go on for days..:crazy:
How do ordinary humans resist the urge?

[Rallyper]

Oi oi oi that will be a FAST stage that's for sure..
I wonder how they arranged such beautiful weather?

(and i wonder how people who live on these roads resist the urge to go "maximum attack" on these roads?..I have a scenario in my head that Pekka and Erja arrive home from shopping 40km away, and when they are unloading groceries Erja discovers that Pekka "forgot" to get kex or godis so Pekka "No problem, I'll drive back and get some"..........1 Hour later Pekka is back, and sweating and smiling with stupid grin... Erja has discovered that Pekka forgot coffee "Oi va dum! I'm sooooo forgetful...Don't worry I'll be right back!"
And out he goes, another 40km---full gas...sideways!

This could go on for days..:crazy:
How do ordinary humans resist the urge?

So you could watch the recce over there? Great!

And not saying how it is in wintertime. I guess all citizens have rallystuds from december until march.

[pantealex]

WRC entries until 21.1 morning
Ogier, JML and Mikkelsen
Neuville, Paddon and Sordo
Gorban MINI
Al-Rajhi and Tamrazov Fiesta

with RC2
Mohamed Al-Qassimi Evo9
gentleman drivers Jukka Kasi and Jouni Virtanen with Fiesta S2000
Lars Stugemo Fiesta R5
Gilbert DS3R5
Szczepaniak (Ptaszek) Fabia R5 (look WRC2 thread for explanation)

and 6 FWD cars

[Tinke1979]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing

To celebrate the return of the sun, a bit of yellow on the @Citroen #Test3 livery! ����☀️ #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkVyi9aW0AAq4bD.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkWf-_UUYAEv9X0.jpg



And here is a video from those tests :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKcP6nyMMvY

[Tinke1979]

Pontus Tidemand PET video --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qs2hJ_ki7A

Esapekka Lappi PET video --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyYVjt0do00

[garais22]

Is there National class (Vetomies) in Neste Rally Finland 2016?
If yes, then where can I see Itinerary and entry list?

Thanks

[OldF]

Is there National class (Vetomies) in Neste Rally Finland 2016?
If yes, then where can I see Itinerary and entry list?

Thanks

Original web site
http://www.moottoriurheilu.tv/vetomies-2016-starttaa-mokkiperasta/

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=fi&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moottoriurheilu.tv%2Fvetomies-2016-starttaa-mokkiperasta%2F

Friday 29/07/2016
EK-2 Mökkiperä (13.84 km) at 09.48
EK-3 Halinen (7.07 km) at 10.21
EK-4 Jukojärvi (21.24 km) at 11.37
EK-5 Surkee (14.95 km) at 13.24
EK-6 shivers (15.01 km) at 14.17
EK-12 Harju (2.31 km) 18.30

Saturday 07/30/2016
EK-13 Ouninpohja (33km) at 10.33
EK-14 Päijälä (23.50 km) at 11.46 am
EK-15 Pihlajakoski (14.51 km) at 13.09
EK-16 Saalahti (4.23 km) at 14.27

The goal of the Jyväskylä Pavilion at 16:00

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=4514&edit=0

Click on “Osallistujat”.
Kilpailuluokat = classes

[pantealex]

Entries for vetomies closes monday 28.6 21.00pm but list maybe updated after that...

[Hartusvuori]

It gives me great warmth to think about the reactions of Rally Finland visitors seeing Vetomies (loosely translates into bad ass, fast, braveheart, no fear rally driver) crews such as Hirvonen, Hiipakka and Lario in their powerful BMWs pass by in our gravel rollercoasters. Lario is always spectacular and his 400+hp BMW sounds simply... No words. Well, let me phrase it like this: If you don't get excited from that sound, you are not alive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tuxSPXh1vWw

[Simmi]

Two Argentinean DS3 entries in now for Finland. I'm scared this is all we'll get from PH Sport :(

[pantealex]

Two Argentinean DS3 entries in now for Finland. I'm scared this is all we'll get from PH Sport :(

Breen in
Meeke in
at least 4 x DS 3 WRC

[samWRC]

Breen in
Meeke in
at least 4 x DS 3 WRC
And Al-Qassimi also :)

[Hartusvuori]

19 WRC crews at the moment. One day left to enter.

[Simmi]

Breen in
Meeke in
at least 4 x DS 3 WRC

Awesome news! They must have heard my concerns. Entry list is shaping up nicely. Can't wait to head back over.

[Rallyper]

Can´t wait! Can´t wait! Excuse my repetation. But so excited over what´s to come in less than five weeks.

[HarriK]

Awesome news! They must have heard my concerns. Entry list is shaping up nicely. Can't wait to head back over.

Awesome!
Also a lot of R5 cars.
Kruuda, Salo, etc

[Rallyper]

Awesome!
Also a lot of R5 cars.
Kruuda, Salo, etc

Let´s wait for Emil B as well ...

[HarriK]

Let´s wait for Emil B as well ...

and Suninen...

[Teme]

Matti Koskelo entered with Toksport's Fiesta RS WRC.

Also with Toksport, Janne Tuohino in Fiesta R5! I like that

[EstWRC]

Suninen also in the list now. this is gonna be great!

[Simmi]

Cool list. Lots of WRCs on there or N.O.T to count haha.

Glad to see Suninen added as he was a key guy. Bergkvist would be good. I was really hoping for Hanninen, especially if he's got a drive next year. He'll need to knock some of that competition rust off.

Question for the Finns. There are quite a few guys in R5/S2000 machinery I haven't heard of. Are there any young talents there to watch out for? Or are we looking more at gentleman type drivers?

[Teme]

Question for the Finns. There are quite a few guys in R5/S2000 machinery I haven't heard of. Are there any young talents there to watch out for? Or are we looking more at gentleman type drivers?

Well, I think only Joonas Soilu is a guy who might be driving for more than just for fun.

Btw, Bergkvist is in now :)

[Hartusvuori]

Hayden Paddon will enter Autoglym Ralli in Kangasala on July 16th as a part of Hyundai's PETs. That rally resembles a lot of WRC leg, four stages driven twice, over 100 competetive kilometres. Stages are naturally been used in 1000 Lakes in the past. Also a few other Rally Finland starters in Autoglym Ralli such as Teemu Suninen and OC Veiby.

[Tinke1979]

Hayden Paddon will enter Autoglym Ralli in Kangasala on July 16th as a part of Hyundai's PETs. That rally resembles a lot of WRC leg, four stages driven twice, over 100 competetive kilometres. Stages are naturally been used in 1000 Lakes in the past. Also a few other Rally Finland starters in Autoglym Ralli such as Teemu Suninen and OC Veiby.


My "info" told me that Hyundai will be driving with 2017 car... But we will see what happens :) Usually teams dont (or atleast nowadays) start their PET session with smaller rally.. In late -90´s and early 2000 it was usual here in Finland that some teams drove a small rally after their test session to Jyväskylä.

[Hartusvuori]

Jarkko Nikara misses Rally Finland but joins Vetomies which is run alongside the main event. He'll start with his Evo9.

[Mintexmemory]

Jarkko Nikara misses Rally Finland but joins Vetomies which is run alongside the main event. He'll start with his Evo9.

The green battle wagon?
Now I need advice, knowing nothing about Finnish roads as a NRF virgin!
On Friday is it possible to do more than 4 stages comfortably?
On Saturday we want to maximise our Ouninpoha experience but which stage is best / easiest to get to after the WRC cars have had their second Pass
Advice or good spots to head for gratefully received!!

Still a place in our car and cabin going for a reasonable price if someone is excited by what looks like a fantastic entry list!

[janvanvurpa]

Jarkko Nikara misses Rally Finland but joins Vetomies which is run alongside the main event. He'll start with his Evo9.


Ah, too bad...it would have been better with a nice car...something without so many delicate parts to break...one differential instead of 3... you know..

[Hartusvuori]

The green battle wagon?
Now I need advice, knowing nothing about Finnish roads as a NRF virgin!
On Friday is it possible to do more than 4 stages comfortably?
On Saturday we want to maximise our Ouninpoha experience but which stage is best / easiest to get to after the WRC cars have had their second Pass
Advice or good spots to head for gratefully received!!

Still a place in our car and cabin going for a reasonable price if someone is excited by what looks like a fantastic entry list!

Friday is a long day and depending on how you want to spectate, four stages should be possible (though, for example between Horkka and Äänekoski it is a bit of driving). Fifth could be the city stage. If you only want to do WRC crews, you could do more. As for what after Ouninpohja 2, I'd say only Saalahti is possible. Depending on where you are located in Ouninpohja, of course. Popular places like Yellow House are behind small forest roads and takes more time to exit than some other parts of Ouninpohja. But two runs of Ouninpohja with Vetomies in the middle + SS Saalahti should be possible.

[HarriK]

My "info" told me that Hyundai will be driving with 2017 car... But we will see what happens :) Usually teams dont (or atleast nowadays) start their PET session with smaller rally.. In late -90´s and early 2000 it was usual here in Finland that some teams drove a small rally after their test session to Jyväskylä.

Entry is class 3 which is current WRC cars.

[Fly]

Vetomies entry list.
Including an original Opel Corsa S2000.
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=4514

[Mintexmemory]

Worked on my Friday Itinerary (no stranger to long days, Sardinia last year had a 21 hour day!)
Mokkipera
Surkee
Aanekoski
Jukojarvi
Harju
If you follow the route on rally-maps.com we intend to reach Mokkipera via the road that joins the stage at 6.83km from the start (direction Nyrola). Does anyone know of good spectator point near there?
Same question for Surkee - approaching stage via road that joins at 5.2km from start.
Now the planning is underway I'm getting really excited (second childhood approaching maybe?!)

[giù tutto!]

79 is the official number of entries to Rally Finland.

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/list-of-received-entries/

[Simmi]

Worked on my Friday Itinerary (no stranger to long days, Sardinia last year had a 21 hour day!)
Mokkipera
Surkee
Aanekoski
Jukojarvi
Harju
If you follow the route on rally-maps.com we intend to reach Mokkipera via the road that joins the stage at 6.83km from the start (direction Nyrola). Does anyone know of good spectator point near there?
Same question for Surkee - approaching stage via road that joins at 5.2km from start.
Now the planning is underway I'm getting really excited (second childhood approaching maybe?!)

I don't have much local knowledge but I would say if you find yourself in a good place on Jukojarvi I would not sacrifice that to dash over to Harju. Likely by the time you get there the place will be packed out. There are thousands of people in that stage and no one is really seeing all that much. I got there fairly close to first car two years ago and ran around the whole place trying to find a decent view. It's much better on TV.

[Simmi]

79 is the official number of entries to Rally Finland.

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/list-of-received-entries/

Doesn't look like there were any last minute surprises. Certainly not that have been published. Pedder and Folb were late additions yesterday afternoon (I was keeping a fairly close eye on it).

I'm not sure this can be claimed as the official list just yet - even though it most likely is?

[Hartusvuori]

Doesn't look like there were any last minute surprises. Certainly not that have been published. Pedder and Folb were late additions yesterday afternoon (I was keeping a fairly close eye on it).

I'm not sure this can be claimed as the official list just yet - even though it most likely is?

It's official in terms that it's been updated by the organisers. First draft of the entry list will be published on Friday and I think the last minute surprises will be there if they come.

Sorry to say that one part of WRC history will be cut this year. After participating 1000 Lakes/Rally Finland for 30 consecutive years (once as a co-driver), Fabrizio de Sanctis will not start the event this year. However, I believe his record will hold for a long, long time.

[Hartusvuori]

I don't have much local knowledge but I would say if you find yourself in a good place on Jukojarvi I would not sacrifice that to dash over to Harju. Likely by the time you get there the place will be packed out. There are thousands of people in that stage and no one is really seeing all that much. I got there fairly close to first car two years ago and ran around the whole place trying to find a decent view. It's much better on TV.

And if you have seen SS Harju already on Thursday, there's no rush for it on Friday. Unless you want to maximize number of visited stages.

[pantealex]

Doesn't look like there were any last minute surprises. Certainly not that have been published. Pedder and Folb were late additions yesterday afternoon (I was keeping a fairly close eye on it).

I'm not sure this can be claimed as the official list just yet - even though it most likely is?

There is no Henning yet,
99,9% sure he is coming...
Some RC2 drivers also missing, I believe
Probably final list with numbers after Rally Poland

[samWRC]

There is no Henning yet,
99,9% sure he is coming...
Some RC2 drivers also missing, I believe
Probably final list with numbers after Rally Poland
Also few drivers missing from JWRC...

[pantealex]

Also few drivers missing from JWRC...

ie. Martel and Himmel (Hauswald skipped Poland already)

for WRC2 missing of those who planned to do Jyskälä: Van Den Heuvel, Bestard Poletti and maybe some drivers from RMC? cars from Spanish Ford Team

[samWRC]

ie. Martel and Himmel (Hauswald skipped Poland already)

for WRC2 missing of those who planned to do Jyskälä: Van Den Heuvel, Bestard Poletti and maybe some drivers from RMC? cars from Spanish Ford Team
But why they have not entered the rally in time. Have they just forgot it :D

[Mintexmemory]

Are insect bites a problem when NRF is taking place?

[pantealex]

Are insect bites a problem when NRF is taking place?

There might be some, but NO problem, no need to cover up.

[Hartusvuori]

There might be some, but NO problem, no need to cover up.

This year everything's a week or two early, so if all good stars are alligned, no mosquitos or horse flies left by the time the rally starts.

[satnav]

Rally guide 2 and other bits and pieces on the website now including the draft entry list ,

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/

, some bits are password protected so if anyone has this feel free to PM me thanks

[pantealex]

Draft has 80 entries and NO Henning :(

[dovydas225]

Can somebody help me please :) I have two questions, one of them is how long will shakedown last and another question is can local Finns give some tips where to watch rally in new and old stages ? :) thanks for answers.

[Hartusvuori]

Can somebody help me please :) I have two questions, one of them is how long will shakedown last and another question is can local Finns give some tips where to watch rally in new and old stages ? :) thanks for answers.

Shakedown starts at 8.00 and normally it gets quiet with WRC crews before midday. Of course there are non-priority drivers for longer period. Even if you'd stay at the shakedown longer, visit service park, eat up, you have time to find a place for SS1.

Your second questions is much more complicated. Best option is to study: old videos, old stories, old maps and see how they meet your preferences. Good places are all over the place. Some places just are better than others.

[EstWRC]

anybody can tell me where this spot on mökkiperä is? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXzQfret5pQ

[WUff1]

Draft has 80 entries and NO Henning :(

He said after Rally Poland that for now his WRC outings seem to be over, shouldn´t he find some extra budget.

[samWRC]

He said after Rally Poland that for now his WRC outings seem to be over, shouldn´t he find some extra budget.
He is now in the list :)

[Mintexmemory]

Looking to go to Lempaa on the Sunday but apart from a lakeside path the only way in and out of the stage is via start or finish. What is the law in Finland on roadside parking - I can see a road that isn't on the competitors route to and from the stage.

[Simmi]

He is now in the list :)

Let's see whether he starts I guess. Not always guaranteed with Henning.

[pantealex]

And if you have seen SS Harju already on Thursday, there's no rush for it on Friday. Unless you want to maximize number of visited stages.

Support event "Vetomies" will be before WRC at SSS Harju Friday.
18.30 pm Vetomies (64 cars in entry list)
20 pm WRC rally

There is also Delta S4 "Henri Toivonen" tribute in Harju stage. (and Ferrari, and Valtra tractor, and bicycle event...)

[danon]

WRC - Ouninpohja by Antti Kalhola - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-NWjMjZlMM
Probably the most famous rally stage in the world.

[OldF]

Looking to go to Lempaa on the Sunday but apart from a lakeside path the only way in and out of the stage is via start or finish. What is the law in Finland on roadside parking - I can see a road that isn't on the competitors route to and from the stage.

http://www.expat-finland.com/living_in_finland/driving_tips.html#2

http://www.expat-finland.com/pdf/driving_in_finland.pdf

Pages 22 - 23

Stopping and parking are prohibited:
• on a motorway or a road for motor vehicles • on a pavement, pedestrian crossing or cycle track or within five metres leading up to a crossing or cycle track • at a road junction and within five metres of it • before a road junction if continuous lines or lane selection signs or markings divide the carriageway into lanes • within three metres of a continuous white or yellow line • near a railway line or tramline if it is close enough to inconvenience the railway or tramway traffic • if the vehicle would conceal a road sign or a signal which is part of the traffic light arrangements • in an underpass or tunnel • on the brow of a hill or a bend in the road • at a paid parking place without paying.

Parking is further prohibited:
• on the access road or at the gateway to a building if it would hamper vehicular access to the property • adjacent to another vehicle on the carriageway • if it would prevent another vehicle from being driven away• on the carriageway outside a builtup area if the road is shown with road signs to be a priority road • outside the edge-markings of a parking space • within thirty metres of a level crossing.


Here you can see Lempää in more detail.

https://www.fonecta.fi/kartat/Mutanen,%20JYV%C3%84SKYL%C3%84?lon=25.732229407171 335&lat=61.966384844427346&z=13

A lot of fields near the end of the stage. Maybe no need for road side parking but it’s difficult to know until the spectator guide is published (14.7.2016)

https://www.google.fi/maps/place/41880+Mutanen/@61.9453609,25.7407481,2127m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x468562c097e8ef37:0xa0146 d8a3948200!8m2!3d61.95686!4d25.7042593

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Finland Rally 2016 is online http://goo.gl/6c8QxH

[dovydas225]

Does Finns have their forum where they discuss about this rally, places to watch rally ?

[Hartusvuori]

Does Finns have their forum where they discuss about this rally, places to watch rally ?

No. All happens in private groups. There are some forums and FB groups, but discussion is more general.

[dovydas225]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m5EWTGARvQ

Maybe somebody knows where 0:11 place is ? :)

[Teme]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m5EWTGARvQ

Maybe somebody knows where 0:11 place is ? :)

It was in the end of Ouninpohja, so it's driven to other direction this year. Not worth going I'd say.

[pantealex]

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=4514

Entry list with numbers for "Vetomies" support event.

They will drive stages:
Friday 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12 (SS12 Harju before WRC event, others after WRC)
Saturday: 13, 14, 15 and 16

[HarriK]

New Recce videos now online:
http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/

too bad that too wide video mode has been used...

[pantealex]

Let's see whether he starts I guess. Not always guaranteed with Henning.

Now with R5... (story on WRC.com)

[Simmi]

Now with R5... (story on WRC.com)

Fair enough. His pace will be another interesting benchmark for WRC2. As in, you need to be ahead of Henning! ;)

[dimviii]

Fair enough. His pace will be another interesting benchmark for WRC2. As in, you need to be ahead of Henning! ;)

imho he will not be benchmark at wrc2.

[SubaruNorway]

New Recce videos now online:
http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/

too bad that too wide video mode has been used...

Just had a quick look at SS3, looks like a 140kph average stage from that video, am i wrong?

[Rallyper]

Just had a quick look at SS3, looks like a 140kph average stage from that video, am i wrong?

Maybe wide angle on footage (?) makes it look like that. But agree. Even Saalahti looks the same. No chance to see variations. However Yle production from some stages is much better in that point of view.

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM0pBrfm2N0

so, where's that huge jump near the end? 2:48 or 3:00?

[SubaruNorway]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM0pBrfm2N0

so, where's that huge jump near the end? 2:48 or 3:00?

3min is correct, It used to be a junction right at 3:07 but it's shame they had to leave out that narrow section for it to be a proper jump, got some cool video there in the past.

[EstWRC]

okay thank you! now i know where to go.:D

[RS]

Fair enough. His pace will be another interesting benchmark for WRC2. As in, you need to be ahead of Henning! ;)

He is often slower than top WRC2 crews even with a World Rally Car.

[satukata]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM0pBrfm2N0

so, where's that huge jump near the end? 2:48 or 3:00?

The direction of driving is different this year

Biggest jumps are on the start of big road this year.

First big jump 1.18, second 1.22 and last and biggest 1.29.

SubaruNorway have wrong info. sorry

[SubaruNorway]

The direction of driving is different this year

Biggest jumps are on the start of big road this year.

First big jump 1.18, second 1.22 and last and biggest 1.29.

SubaruNorway have wrong info. sorry

I know it's in the other direction but 3min will be a big jump, i assume EstWRC knows that as well :)
Easier to see the size of the 3min jump at 2:07 here, might hit it at 170-180kph i think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCkPk99fgig
Don't think they will jump much at all on 1:18 and 1:22 unfortunately

[EstWRC]

yea, i knew it.

another question. will there be maps and spectator areas in tuulilasi magazine like last year? it was very helpful. at the moment i cant find anything at rally site or at tuulilasi site but last year at this time we already had the magazine i think. There is a app for the rally this year but the maps and navigation will be published 27.07. i prefer the magazine because the app will take battery, mobile internet etc. Last year the mobile internet didnt work at all at stages.


E: never mind the question, found out that the magazine will be published 14.07 with all the maps and etc.

[Tinke1979]

I know it's in the other direction but 3min will be a big jump, i assume EstWRC knows that as well :)
Easier to see the size of the 3min jump at 2:07 here, might hit it at 170-180kph i think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCkPk99fgig
Don't think they will jump much at all on 1:18 and 1:22 unfortunately

That 1:22 is guarantee "flying-place" on this direction.. Been there spectating local rallyes and former Pirelli Star Driver competition :) Last time that they drove this on rally one driver hurt his back on the landing...

But the 3:00 place is guarantee flying too :)

[Tinke1979]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbyM_nXVuPQ

First picture on this video is from 1:22 jump..

And the jump is on video starting at 1:13... Yeah I know that suspensions have developed a lot, but still that is a good jump in both directions :)

[SubaruNorway]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbyM_nXVuPQ

First picture on this video is from 1:22 jump..

And the jump is on video starting at 1:13... Yeah I know that suspensions have developed a lot, but still that is a good jump in both directions :)

Not to be difficult, but that's the 1:28 jump 150 m before the long left, 1:22 is the drop from the "table top" 1:28 should be good, it's a bit nicer landing now and not completely flat if i remember right :)

[Tinke1979]

Not to be difficult, but that's the 1:28 jump 150 m before the long left, 1:22 is the drop from the "table top" 1:28 should be good, it's a bit nicer landing now and not completely flat if i remember right :)

Yep.. The camera on that incar-video is awful :D That is why I was confused... But yeah I was supposed to say 1:28..

[JUF]

Henning Solberg has tested the Ford Fiesta R5 of Frigyes Turán in Hungary yesterday. I think that's the car he will use in Finland aswell.

[Sulland]

Henning Solberg has tested the Ford Fiesta R5 of Frigyes Turán in Hungary yesterday. I think that's the car he will use in Finland aswell.

So an 'old' 2014 model, do anyone know if they have bolted on the evo kit on that one?

[Oliverk]

WRC @OfficialWRC
No @RallyFinland for @DaniSordo as he recovers from his back injury.@KevinAbbring and @sebmarshall will step in and no doubt do a great job

[Simmi]

Good luck to Kevin and Seb - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125291/back-injury-rules-sordo-out-of-finland

With Sordo having a deal locked up it's good that they get a chance to impress.

[SubaruNorway]

Anyone got an onboard from Ouninpohja 2008 when it ran i reverse? Galli,PG and Salo and some big offs that year not far from the finish.

[N.O.T]

what was the name of the stage in 2008 ? (because there was no stage named Uninpohja) I have onboards from ss1-2-13-15-16-21

[Franky]

what was the name of the stage in 2008 ? (because there was no stage named Uninpohja) I have onboards from ss1-2-13-15-16-21

It should be Kakaristo, SS16/19

[satnav]

Anyone got an onboard from Ouninpohja 2008 when it ran i reverse? Galli,PG and Salo and some big offs that year not far from the finish.

Also the stage map is on Rally maps http://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Finland-2008/Kakaristo

[EstWRC]

How has the summer been in finland? The lakes are warm enough to go to swim and wash? :D

[SubaruNorway]

Also the stage map is on Rally maps http://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Finland-2008/Kakaristo

Ok, thought they finished on the wide road. Where was those crashes then? Galli at 1:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVNnquyCNrs

[N.O.T]

It should be Kakaristo, SS16/19

latvala

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-KSb52rHtU

sordo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66hvelrPxsk

i also have mikelsen on my HD, could upload if you wish.

[pantealex]

How has the summer been in finland? The lakes are warm enough to go to swim and wash? :D

Cold
Yes, warm enough for swim and wash (Jyväsjärvi at Rally HQ is 18 degrees now) http://www.paijanne.org/pages/en/main.php

[EstWRC]

Okay...last year it was very cold like autumn, only 10 degrees in the afternoon in camping areas. We didnt find any washing possibilities and the lakes were also very cold.

[satukata]

Anyone got an onboard from Ouninpohja 2008 when it ran i reverse? Galli,PG and Salo and some big offs that year not far from the finish.
Latvalas onboard 7.03 was the place where PG and Galli and Salo had offs. My brother got PGs video where PG hit tree 😎

[6789]

Has it been raining in Jyvaskyla? Might have another wet event

[N.O.T]

Has it been raining in Jyvaskyla? Might have another wet event

the event is in two weeks, it doesn't matter if it even snows now...

[6789]

Yes that's right, but the trend is important. It looks like it's another wet summer in Finland... Anyway, we shall wait and see

[satukata]

Next ten days forecast in Jyväskylä is Sunny and very little rain. Great summerrally i hope!

[SubaruNorway]

The magazine was out yesterday i think? Could someone post the maps and descriptions of the new stages so we can see entry roads and stuff :)

[satukata]

who you think can fight podium places in rally Finland and who can fight for victory? I think we have 7 drivers fighting for podium. VW boys tanak, meeke, neuville and paddon. If weather stays dry i think ogier is out for victoryfight and tanak and meeke can fight with Jarimatti. I hope Jm can win! Go jarimatti Hanaa!!

[Tinke1979]

Teemu Suninen with Team Oreca Skoda Fabia R5 PET Rally Finland 2016 -->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqR2Hk3sczk

[satukata]

Who you think can win and who can finish podium in Wrc2?

[satukata]

Wrc2.. Suninen said factory boys had better top speed and more power in engine. So Lappi and Tideman have change to win. What can evans do?

[KiwiWRCfan]

Pontus vs Henning will be an interesting R5 best in family battle

[RS]

Pontus vs Henning will be an interesting R5 best in family battle

I doubt that.

[Simmi]

Wrc2.. Suninen said factory boys had better top speed and more power in engine. So Lappi and Tideman have change to win. What can evans do?

It will be very interesting. Some big statements to be made in Finland. Lappi really showed Tidemand the way last year, so if the roles are reversed this time around that would be massive for Pontus.

I think one of one the Fabia guys will come a cropper on leg one. I think the fight will be that intense. I think Evans will just be slightly further back as he was in Poland. But let's see!

[EightGear]

Pontus vs Henning will be an interesting R5 best in family battle
Henning will be at least 1 minute behind.

[pantealex]

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/site/assets/files/3499/servicepark_fin_2016_final.pdf

Service park layout.

Toyota area (cars #47 #50) is small, so probably not Yaris WRC on display :(

(and Hyundai is already building "the House")

[samWRC]

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/site/assets/files/3499/servicepark_fin_2016_final.pdf

Service park layout.

Toyota area (cars #47 #50) is small, so probably not Yaris WRC on display :(

(and Hyundai is already building "the House")
Missing drivers Henning, Bonato and Burri.

[pantealex]

Missing drivers Henning, Bonato and Burri.

Bonato #38 between #44 and #94

[RS]

It will be very interesting. Some big statements to be made in Finland. Lappi really showed Tidemand the way last year, so if the roles are reversed this time around that would be massive for Pontus.

I think one of one the Fabia guys will come a cropper on leg one. I think the fight will be that intense. I think Evans will just be slightly further back as he was in Poland. But let's see!

Last year Tidemand was also slower than Lappi in Poland, but this year that was not the case so I expect them to be close in Finland.

[Jeppe]

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/site/assets/files/3499/servicepark_fin_2016_final.pdf

Service park layout.

Toyota area (cars #47 #50) is small, so probably not Yaris WRC on display :(

I don´t think there will be any Toyota show area. It´s only MM Motorsport service area as it was in Rally Estonia..

[Sulland]

Pontus vs Henning will be an interesting R5 best in family battle

Yes, but even more so if both were in Fabias.
Henning in an older Fiesta without Evo kit (if so) will be behind in power.

[samWRC]

Bonato #38 between #44 and #94
Good I just didn't notice it :)

[bugwrx]

I don´t think there will be any Toyota show area. It´s only MM Motorsport service area as it was in Rally Estonia..

If there will be MM-Motorsport at all, guys have done really good job crashing them, all 3 of them :D

[Teme]

Missing drivers Henning, Bonato and Burri.

I think the third missing driver was #40 Giordano, not Bonato.

[pantealex]

I think the third missing driver was #40 Giordano, not Bonato.

Yeah, Loeb Racing´s Peugeot 208T16 R5 driver Giordano is NOT starting (source: his Twitter)
and WRC3 Renault Turbo driver Burri is NOT starting (source: his Facebook)

According to Kai Tarkiainen (Clerk of the Course) Henning is changing his car...
so probably they simply do not know who is servicing him, hard to put a place for him.

[pantealex]

I don´t think there will be any Toyota show area. It´s only MM Motorsport service area as it was in Rally Estonia..


with "ToyotaGR" banners and mechanics have "ToyotaGR" overalls.

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes, but even more so if both were in Fabias.
Henning in an older Fiesta without Evo kit (if so) will be behind in power.

Henning will use ex Evans car. EVO ;)

[OldF]

Here’s some general info for those who is first time spectating NRF. For field parking is good to have coins or five euros bills.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/OkdF/2016%20SS%20Parking_zpsoazfdvkt.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/OkdF/General%20information_zpslnbcrjtc.jpg

[satukata]

Teemu Suninen really hard preparing for the Rally Finland.
test rally in finland and two days testing. Difficult it has been. exit of the second stage and the exit of the first test day and car repair lasted 6 hours. However, I still believe he can reach the victory in Rally finland WRC2.

Teemu´s manager Timo Jouhki rumored to be negotiating with the three-team. in the first place is the Citroen second place hyundai and the third toyota.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

:)

rallytravel.com ‏@rallytravel
You know you're in the home of rallying when the TV reports start 5 days before the rally does! @RallyFinland

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoEYHb0WEAA6k8i.jpg

[pantealex]

actually it started monday when pr- an test work started, so 10 days before rally

[Mintexmemory]

Travelling on Tuesday evening, arriving Helsinki at 2335!! Very excited now! Wondering what's the best use of Wednesday afternoon?

[Hartusvuori]

Travelling on Tuesday evening, arriving Helsinki at 2335!! Very excited now! Wondering what's the best use of Wednesday afternoon?

Spectator recce and attending the Meet the Drivers' (kids) event in Äänekoski.

Welcome to Finland! Weather forecast is looking very nice, at last.

[SubaruNorway]

Could anyone confirm that these roads are open?
Entry road top left? Hänninen's corner top right and entry where there is a red house close to the lake at the bottom one.

What itinerary for Vetomies is correct btw, the one with Mökkipera at 9:13 or 9:48?

[Mintexmemory]

Spectator recce and attending the Meet the Drivers' (kids) event in Äänekoski.

Welcome to Finland! Weather forecast is looking very nice, at last.

Thanks for this and the previous advice - some big photos need signatures so where can I get an Angus Young costume to sneak in with the kids for Meet the Drivers?

[Rallyper]

Thanks for this and the previous advice - some big photos need signatures so where can I get an Angus Young costume to sneak in with the kids for Meet the Drivers?

Pickems? This years most important.

[MM WRC]

Travelling on Tuesday evening, arriving Helsinki at 2335!! Very excited now! Wondering what's the best use of Wednesday afternoon?

Another chance is to visit the brand new rally museum in Kangasala. There are a lot of ex-works cars, eg Talbot Sunbeam Lotus, early Gr. B Quattro, Delta HF and Focus WRC in there.

[AL14]

How will be the weather?

[nool]

Could it be possible toe receive more info for: "Meet the Drivers' (kids) event in Äänekoski" when will it take place. Will arrive to Finland wendsday afternoon, no chance to buy rallyguide before, but would like to make plans. Thank you upfront:)

[Andre Oliveira]

No Pärn, Suarez and Giordano

[Lundefaret]

Could it be possible toe receive more info for: "Meet the Drivers' (kids) event in Äänekoski" when will it take place. Will arrive to Finland wendsday afternoon, no chance to buy rallyguide before, but would like to make plans. Thank you upfront:)

Hello

Its from 17.30 to 20.30 on the 27th at the Valtra factory in Suolahti.

[tommeke_B]

Hello

Its from 17.30 to 20.30 on the 27th at the Valtra factory in Suolahti.

Are you going to be at Rally Finland?

[br21]

I'll be there so I'm looking to meet some of you!

[Lundefaret]

Are you going to be at Rally Finland?

I have been here since Thursday, and will stay for the rally (hopefully all of the rally depending on how it works out with babysitters :) )

[Rallyper]

I have been here since Thursday, and will stay for the rally (hopefully all of the rally depending on how it works out with babysitters :) )

Try at Huyndai. ;)

See you there. Would be nice. Are Huyndai drivers staying at Paviljonki like usually?

[tommeke_B]

I have been here since Thursday, and will stay for the rally (hopefully all of the rally depending on how it works out with babysitters :) )

So maybe I can see you somewhere. ;) We'll arrive tomorrow night. Going to do recce of a few stages on wednesday before coming to service in the late afternoon.

[Lundefaret]

Try at Huyndai. ;)

See you there. Would be nice. Are Huyndai drivers staying at Paviljonki like usually?

Yes they are, John told me that they had met you last year :)
Mathilde is at home in Norway with my parents, and I am trying to stretch here visit a little, hehe ;)
But maybe Hyundai has a daycare centre, so I can just bring here over, I havent tought of that. Should be room for it :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

actually it started monday when pr- an test work started, so 10 days before rally

They were talking about the fact the rally was already getting TV coverage here in Finland.

PR & testing start well before all rallies.

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC

These are the method of choice to prevent cutting in this year's @RallyFinland #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoL9OimWAAA3Nc-.jpg

[Morte66]

As formula 1 introduces sensor loops to detect cars running off track, WRC takes a more practical approach. :)

[satukata]

bad start for Craig Breen.. rolled today in Rally Finland PET. Only cosmetic damage

[SubaruNorway]

Hopefully no one gets hit in the heat by a splintered leca block

[dimviii]

wtf?

Julian Porter ‏@The_Rally_Guru

I have no idea if these mailboxes really belong to former WRC stars, but it's quite a talented row nevertheless.


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[bluuford]

How will be the weather?

Mostly dry until Friday evening, since then there is a high chanche of rainshowers, temperature around +20..+23 during the days and +16..+20 during the nights, nearly no wind until Sunday.

In general: Saturday will be most likely relatively wet due to rainshowers here and there, Friday most likely dry and Sunday almost dry. I assume it (forecats) to change a lot. usually in a better direction (less rain, more sun :))

[janvanvurpa]

I have been here since Thursday, and will stay for the rally (hopefully all of the rally depending on how it works out with babysitters :) )

I meant to send you a note about the idea of visiting ''Rallyvärldens Mesta U-land'' oxo känt some Fästing Amerika..but I've been out finishing one Sierra project and then I must call in an airstrike (easier than cleaning the garage--napalm!) then on to another Sierra project, but then I also figured you'd be busy with Finland.. Look for somemthing when you're back i Norge.

Viva Nosan Först!

[Sulland]

@Lundefaret; has Henning arrived yet, and do you know if he has some testing lined up before 1000 Lakes?

[Micke_VOC]

Tomorrow i heading to Finland too.
For the first time a take my father with me, have told him that he need to see it live to understand how fast and cool Rally Finland are =)
Anymore from the forum living in Muurame area (Riihivuori) ?

[pettersolberg29]

@Lundefaret; has Henning arrived yet, and do you know if he has some testing lined up before 1000 Lakes?

Henning is briefly testing tomorrow (26/7)!

[Hartusvuori]

bad start for Craig Breen.. rolled today in Rally Finland PET. Only cosmetic damage

I asked Breen about this and he told no roll, just car fallen off the trailer.

[Mintexmemory]

I asked Breen about this and he told no roll, just car fallen off the trailer.

That is what they call in Ireland - 'Blarney' (or just 'bollocks' in the UK!) Of course he could be telling the truth!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That is what they call in Ireland - 'Blarney' (or just 'bollocks' in the UK!) Of course he could be telling the truth!

If you have a roll in Finland there's more than cosmetic damage... :disturb:

[Rallyper]

That is what they call in Ireland - 'Blarney' (or just 'bollocks' in the UK!) Of course he could be telling the truth!

He should have. Maybe he didn´t know to whom he spoke? ;)

[satnav]

Travel tomorrow {Wednesday} to Finland , first time there, staying down in Jamsankoski , can't wait

[Rallyper]

Only a couple of hours until I leave for Stockholm and Amorella. Turku tomorrow morning and doing some recce before coming to the center of Rallyworld this week - Jyväskylä.

Hope to see you guys who ever you are. Some do recognize me. Some don´t. Two blonds 1,70, father (me) and son Simon. Wearing orange Richard Burns foundation T-shirts on some occasions.

Have a wonderful week and weekend everybody.

:) :) :)

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Work continues in service to repair the damage to @Craig_Breen's car after yesterday's off in testing


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[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC

I've been spying. Mileage in classic @MSportLtd recce Volvos varies from 121 00 to up to 138 000. Barely shaken off the factory dust. #WRC

Also Hanninen and Lefebvre doing recce

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Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC

Recce only for @SLefebvreRallye.
- Will you be here in C3 next year?
- Maybe, I hop

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Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC

Very nice recce cars for @TGR_WRC drivers Arai and Katsuta. It's all about getting the experience. #Ouninpohja


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[Simmi]

I hope everyone that's going has a great trip. Flying out tomorrow for my fourth Rally Finland!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen:

We took a little tumble during our test yesterday.. Unfortunatly a stray rock was on our line on a fast corner and put us off..

However the damage was not too bad, and my fantastic team are repairing the car now ready to start the rally. Thanks guys ! :)

[Mintexmemory]

Only a couple of hours until I leave for Stockholm and Amorella. Turku tomorrow morning and doing some recce before coming to the center of Rallyworld this week - Jyväskylä.

Hope to see you guys who ever you are. Some do recognize me. Some don´t. Two blonds 1,70, father (me) and son Simon. Wearing orange Richard Burns foundation T-shirts on some occasions.

Have a wonderful week and weekend everybody.

:) :) :)

Maybe all forum members in Finland should post their next day appearance every evening so they are easier to recognise the following day! All Thursday (SD / Service park / SSS) I shall have a Rally Sardinia t-shirt and either khaki shorts or khaki combats with brown Karrimore boots. I shall probably be with PetterSolberg29 who we call 'Ginger Spice' when he's wrapped in his Union Jack!

[danon]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC

These are the method of choice to prevent cutting in this year's @RallyFinland #WRC

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[sindroms]

Maybe all forum members in Finland should post their next day appearance every evening so they are easier to recognise the following day! All Thursday (SD / Service park / SSS) I shall have a Rally Sardinia t-shirt and either khaki shorts or khaki combats with brown Karrimore boots. I shall probably be with PetterSolberg29 who we call 'Ginger Spice' when he's wrapped in his Union Jack!

OK. Most probably - I shall have in stages my worn Mitsubishi Ralliart cap, maroon Latvia t-shirt/bright green t-shirt or rain jacket, grey Vaude shoes :)
6 of hours until we leave to Tallina. Have a nice event! :) :) :)

[nool]

Hi, i'm new in this forum, but been in NesteRF since 98, good memorys from every time! Will be again this year, now already think 4th time together with new generation. Ferry tomorrow, can't wait!

[EstWRC]

Packing my things at the moment and the excitement is huge. Gonna leave tomorrow lunch time and will be at ruuhimäki 8 pm.


Great rally for everyone.

[jiipee64]

Welcome to my hometown.
Been on stages since 1975....

[samWRC]

Henning will drive Pärn's car so his number will be 46 instead of 16.

[HarriK]

Friday Harju2 startlist will be reversed from 10 fastest drivers.

[Simmi]

Henning will drive Pärn's car so his number will be 46 instead of 16.

Parn is a DNS then?

[bugwrx]

S.Pärn career is pretty much over i belive, no speed but still crashing every event.

[samWRC]

Parn is a DNS then?Yes. Giordano, Suarez, Pärn, Burri and Pieniazek are non starters.

[cali]

S.Pärn career is pretty much over i belive, no speed but still crashing every event.
I think they will try more but I do not see any other reason that they are doing it just for fun. This guys is only good for national (village... lol) events.

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[AL14]

So no info about weather during the weekend?

[EstWRC]

look at page 21

[pantealex]

They were talking about the fact the rally was already getting TV coverage here in Finland.

PR & testing start well before all rallies.

That´s what I was talking too, TV and newspapers 10 days before rally.

[bluuford]

So no info about weather during the weekend?

It might still change. There is a risk that one cyclone hits Friday eraly in the morning and we have some rain/humidity for first couple of Friday morning loop stages. Rest of weekend should be OK, apart form Saturday night/Sunday early morning when we might expect more rain. However, weather changes here quickly as well ;)

[skarderud]

How much does wet or dry affect the startposition in Finland? Not so much as other places?

[AL14]

It might still change. There is a risk that one cyclone hits Friday eraly in the morning and we have some rain/humidity for first couple of Friday morning loop stages. Rest of weekend should be OK, apart form Saturday night/Sunday early morning when we might expect more rain. However, weather changes here quickly as well ;)

Sorry bluuford I didn't see your previous post on page 21. :)
Thanks as always.

[OldF]

Bluuford can give more accurate forecasts but here you can follow local weather forecasts by yourself.

Five day overview
http://www.foreca.com/Finland/Jyvaskyla

10 days forecast
http://www.foreca.com/Finland/Jyvaskyla?tenday

From Finnish meteorological institute
http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/weather/jyvaskyla?forecast=short

As Bluuford said, rainshowers here and there, come and go.
http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/rain-and-cloudiness

[Barreis]

'Capito thinks Meeke will win in Finland...'
http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125475

[nool]

Meek, was quite mad at this.. "Dam mind games"

[OldF]

360-degree panorama images of spectator areas

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/route/360-degree-image-gallery/

I start to feel dizzy.:crazy:

[danon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDL9sy0KLuM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE_bVUuB9tM&feature=share

[janvanvurpa]

360-degree panorama images of spectator areas

http://www.nesterallyfinland.fi/en/route/360-degree-image-gallery/

I start to feel dizzy.:crazy:


Feeling dizzy???!! ..Take it easy Old Finn..
I know just the thing:
:beer:

Do that until everything returns to normal.

[dimviii]

Rally Paradise ‏@rallyparadise

#WRC #RallyFinland @KevinAbbring won the #Valtra tractor #rally! @RallyFinland Photos by @rallyparadise


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M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd

Third place for @OttTanak in the tractor race, can he make it two podiums this weekend? #WRC #RallyFinland

[HarriK]

For the 1hour weather forecast I can recommend phone app: Supersää. By one click you see two different forecast station precipitations and it shows the forecast in our phone area. Very easy to use.

[SubaruNorway]

It's very dry and loose so wouldn't mind a little bit of rain!
Is it just me or is the taping 5m further into the forest everywhere this year?
Shakedown looked very difficult for filming but will give my marshall tricking skills a go :)

[skarderud]

Its a really difficult pickem this time, atleast 5 potential winners. Thats good!