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Luijbregts
11th February 2016, 03:53
Why do you not know the rules in here ??????????????? Stages can be cancelled up to 75% 50% and even 25% according to FIA rules.......... I will tell you what will happen for WRC Sweden! Friday stages will go on because they are ''ok'' and safe... After that Rally will be cancelled because of ''dangerous conditions''... I am not going to discuss ''conditions'' with you! I am not an organizer and I do not know how much Rally Sweden has to pay the Swedish Road Governesses for clearing up/fix the roads after the rally!!!!!!!!... BUT, saying Friday OK, this will give the organizer some revenue on Friday + 25% go for WRC FIA regulation!!........ and they can clear covering the roads on Saturday and Sunday! which gives the organizers room to go clear of bankruptcy!!!!! In my opinion, switch Monte Carlo and Sweden........... or give Sweden always the final weekend in February..... Look at the climate statistics, always 50/50 mid Feb.... but never end of January or final weekend of February!!!! Just saying........ Coming from me who has driven Rally in winter Norway for 6 years!!!!!!!!!!!

AND for all of you wondering about studs / gravel tires ??? Only studs ar FIA allowed on the only ''snow'' Rally which is WRC Sweden.......... JEEEEEESUS..... This has been in the news everywhere, stop asking and discussing!!!!!

Please follow and read posts. It is not that hard to get info on your questions regarding everything about a Rally!

But, when they decide to cancel Friday, WRC points will also be awarded to the 100-75-50-25 % ruling.............. So no full WRC points when less then 11 stages are driven......... Look it up in the appendix of the FIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

God damn.... Why can't people look up rules and regulations before posting here..............?????????????????? ALWAYS THE SAME SHIT.

PEOPLE, RALLY SWEDEN WILL BE CANCELLED AFTER FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAS007
11th February 2016, 06:08
Why do you not know the rules in here ??????????????? Stages can be cancelled up to 75% 50% and even 25% according to FIA rules.......... I will tell you what will happen for WRC Sweden! Friday stages will go on because they are ''ok'' and safe... After that Rally will be cancelled because of ''dangerous conditions''... I am not going to discuss ''conditions'' with you! I am not an organizer and I do not know how much Rally Sweden has to pay the Swedish Road Governesses for clearing up/fix the roads after the rally!!!!!!!!... BUT, saying Friday OK, this will give the organizer some revenue on Friday + 25% go for WRC FIA regulation!!........ and they can clear covering the roads on Saturday and Sunday! which gives the organizers room to go clear of bankruptcy!!!!! In my opinion, switch Monte Carlo and Sweden........... or give Sweden always the final weekend in February..... Look at the climate statistics, always 50/50 mid Feb.... but never end of January or final weekend of February!!!! Just saying........ Coming from me who has driven Rally in winter Norway for 6 years!!!!!!!!!!!

AND for all of you wondering about studs / gravel tires ??? Only studs ar FIA allowed on the only ''snow'' Rally which is WRC Sweden.......... JEEEEEESUS..... This has been in the news everywhere, stop asking and discussing!!!!!

Please follow and read posts. It is not that hard to get info on your questions regarding everything about a Rally!

But, when they decide to cancel Friday, WRC points will also be awarded to the 100-75-50-25 % ruling.............. So no full WRC points when less then 11 stages are driven......... Look it up in the appendix of the FIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

God damn.... Why can't people look up rules and regulations before posting here..............?????????????????? ALWAYS THE SAME SHIT.

PEOPLE, RALLY SWEDEN WILL BE CANCELLED AFTER FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, Jesus has got nothing to do with it. Secondly, interesting 10th post, parvenu.

hype
11th February 2016, 07:03
Now snow on Friday, that would be peeeeeeeerfect :)

http://abload.de/img/unbenanntmxjj5.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=unbenanntmxjj5.png)

bluuford
11th February 2016, 07:46
Why do you not know the rules in here ??????????????? Stages can be cancelled up to 75% 50% and even 25% according to FIA rules.......... I will tell you what will happen for WRC Sweden! Friday stages will go on because they are ''ok'' and safe... After that Rally will be cancelled because of ''dangerous conditions''... I am not going to discuss ''conditions'' with you! I am not an organizer and I do not know how much Rally Sweden has to pay the Swedish Road Governesses for clearing up/fix the roads after the rally!!!!!!!!... BUT, saying Friday OK, this will give the organizer some revenue on Friday + 25% go for WRC FIA regulation!!........ and they can clear covering the roads on Saturday and Sunday! which gives the organizers room to go clear of bankruptcy!!!!! In my opinion, switch Monte Carlo and Sweden........... or give Sweden always the final weekend in February..... Look at the climate statistics, always 50/50 mid Feb.... but never end of January or final weekend of February!!!! Just saying........ Coming from me who has driven Rally in winter Norway for 6 years!!!!!!!!!!!

AND for all of you wondering about studs / gravel tires ??? Only studs ar FIA allowed on the only ''snow'' Rally which is WRC Sweden.......... JEEEEEESUS..... This has been in the news everywhere, stop asking and discussing!!!!!

Please follow and read posts. It is not that hard to get info on your questions regarding everything about a Rally!

But, when they decide to cancel Friday, WRC points will also be awarded to the 100-75-50-25 % ruling.............. So no full WRC points when less then 11 stages are driven......... Look it up in the appendix of the FIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

God damn.... Why can't people look up rules and regulations before posting here..............?????????????????? ALWAYS THE SAME SHIT.

PEOPLE, RALLY SWEDEN WILL BE CANCELLED AFTER FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seb? You? Pressure is terrible thing. last forecast predicts light snowfall for norwegian stages starting from around 8AM, good luck! :P

SubaruNorway
11th February 2016, 08:21
It is usually 1 min between WRC 2 why the confusion?

It was 2min between all WRC1/2 cars in Finland last year, took forever to watch a stage. Need it to time my stage hopping ;)
Startlist will be out soon hopefully.

SubaruNorway
11th February 2016, 08:28
Värmullsåsen has been graded
https://twitter.com/Falkens76/status/697559778437042180

HarriK
11th February 2016, 08:46
According Toni Gardemeister last night:
"it's now minus degrees of celsius and rally will surely be driven. All friday stages are good icy road and rest of stages are frozen gravel roads."

Also here is Hagfors area forecast now:

http://www.foreca.com/meteogram.php?loc_id=102709214&mglang=en&units=metric&tf=24h

HarriK
11th February 2016, 08:51
Latvala :
A special rule makes the Swedish rally in risk game: "How rims tires remain there?"

https://translate.google.fi/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyle.fi%2Furheilu%2Ferikoinen_saanto _tekee_ruotsin_rallista_riskipelia_miten_renkaat_p ysyvat_vanteilla_tuolla%2F8664948&edit-text=&act=url

makinen_fan
11th February 2016, 08:57
extra set of tyres allowed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca6FyrGXIAAe5Mz.jpg:large

hari
11th February 2016, 09:04
It was 2min between all WRC1/2 cars in Finland last year, took forever to watch a stage. Need it to time my stage hopping ;) Startlist will be out soon hopefully.


According to Bulletin 4, all P1 drivers with 3 minutes start interval on Day 2.
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Bulletin-no-4-1.pdf

Slipzen
11th February 2016, 09:36
Time to leave for SS Röjden 1&2, Vargåsen 1&2 and Lesjöfors. Maybe we will meet in the forests of Värmland? :)

Lundefaret
11th February 2016, 10:10
Why do you not know the rules in here ??????????????? Stages can be cancelled up to 75% 50% and even 25% according to FIA rules.......... I will tell you what will happen for WRC Sweden! Friday stages will go on because they are ''ok'' and safe... After that Rally will be cancelled because of ''dangerous conditions''... I am not going to discuss ''conditions'' with you! I am not an organizer and I do not know how much Rally Sweden has to pay the Swedish Road Governesses for clearing up/fix the roads after the rally!!!!!!!!... BUT, saying Friday OK, this will give the organizer some revenue on Friday + 25% go for WRC FIA regulation!!........ and they can clear covering the roads on Saturday and Sunday! which gives the organizers room to go clear of bankruptcy!!!!! In my opinion, switch Monte Carlo and Sweden........... or give Sweden always the final weekend in February..... Look at the climate statistics, always 50/50 mid Feb.... but never end of January or final weekend of February!!!! Just saying........ Coming from me who has driven Rally in winter Norway for 6 years!!!!!!!!!!!

AND for all of you wondering about studs / gravel tires ??? Only studs ar FIA allowed on the only ''snow'' Rally which is WRC Sweden.......... JEEEEEESUS..... This has been in the news everywhere, stop asking and discussing!!!!!

Please follow and read posts. It is not that hard to get info on your questions regarding everything about a Rally!

But, when they decide to cancel Friday, WRC points will also be awarded to the 100-75-50-25 % ruling.............. So no full WRC points when less then 11 stages are driven......... Look it up in the appendix of the FIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

God damn.... Why can't people look up rules and regulations before posting here..............?????????????????? ALWAYS THE SAME SHIT.

PEOPLE, RALLY SWEDEN WILL BE CANCELLED AFTER FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with You. As things look now friday will run as normal, and the rally will probably cancelled, or at least heavily shortened on saturday and sunday.

Also agree on the dates. Weather statistics should be made to find the optimum week. Earlier in january there was both snow and cold in the same region.

And one should look at developing a "plan B" regarding the stages, and where the majority of the stages should take place. How far north, and how high can You place them.

If one takes this year as a "worst case" scenario, one should look around now to see with areas it still is cold and snow, and look for potential stages. The Swedish Rally used to also run in the area around Falun, and there its both snow and minus degrees right now (but this also depends on local economic backing).

But i guess the organisers are already thinking of all these things.

The Swedish rally is a great spectacle, and its a pity to see it in this condition. But the weather is a poor mistress.

BleAivano
11th February 2016, 10:21
Also agree on the dates. Weather statistics should be made to find the optimum week. Earlier in january there was both snow and cold in the same region.

Then in previous years there have not been any snow in January but "plenty" during the rally. February is also normally the coldest month during the year.

bluuford
11th February 2016, 10:22
Vargasen stage region just had some snowfall:) so, most of the stage should look like white now:)
I do not see why it should be cancelled? Liepaja has been run in much worse conditions in many years, noone complained, everything worked fine. Winterrally should be like winter, when it is with minimal snow, then it is like that. They should drive as the road allows.

Luijbregts
11th February 2016, 10:51
I was maybe a bit harsh in my words :-) Sorry for that! BUT..... Don't compare this rally to other rally's outside of Sweden. There are certain issues with road fixing which the organizers do not get covered in Sweden. If the rally is run in these conditions the organizers are looking at €100k repairs. Not on friday but the rest of the weekend, this is money they do not have. For the roads to be optimum you need around 20cm +++ ice in the ground. With approx -20 you get a cm a day. Temperatures at this moment will not do at the moment and that is why I fear that they will run friday to get at least 1 day revenue and cancel the rest. WRC points will then only be 25% of a normal completed WRC Rally. But at least there will be a result. Weather stats clearly show January in favour and swapping with Monte should not be a calender problem, the problem is money. Monte Carlo has a big stake in their own timing for commercial purposes and Sweden does not have this investment. Anyhow, as Ogier quoted, I love Rally Sweden and hope it will go on but I am afraid the organization will take the high road and nobody can blame them! The weather is to blame unfortunately. And again, snow is not the problem, the ice in the ground is.

BleAivano
11th February 2016, 11:04
Conditions looks better today. Roads have frozen over night and since it will continue to be cold I think we'll be allright with the planned stages,

Lundefaret
11th February 2016, 11:06
Then in previous years there have not been any snow in January but "plenty" during the rally. February is also normally the coldest month during the year.

As I wrote, one should get the statistics. Bluuford should be hired for this :)

Lundefaret
11th February 2016, 11:09
Vargasen stage region just had some snowfall:) so, most of the stage should look like white now:)
I do not see why it should be cancelled? Liepaja has been run in much worse conditions in many years, noone complained, everything worked fine. Winterrally should be like winter, when it is with minimal snow, then it is like that. They should drive as the road allows.

If the frost doesn't go down in the ground, the top layer will be spun away, leaving the tires to go full attack on the soft soil beneath. This will mean huge damage to the roads, and a huge cost to fix them afterwards. A cost Rally Sweden can't really bear, and a lot of grim road owners.

Little snow will also mean more cutting, which also is very damaging for the road.

We will wait and see, I off course hope both the saturday and sunday going as planned. And also this year being down to a freak accident of bad luck weaterwise. :)

bluuford
11th February 2016, 11:22
As I wrote, one should get the statistics. Bluuford should be hired for this :)

February it is, the coldest month. The rally is exactly at the right time. But you know, statistics is average, but you rarely have average condititions. Most of Estonia and this part of Sweden has two patterns of wetaher in winter. It is really cold (high pressure area) and some snow just before it gets cold or it is warm and rainy (cyclones from ocean). Average weather (statistical average temperatures) is actually not common at all :) Climatologists have been thinking that weather depndent events should be somehow flexible.. so you should be able to shift these events couple of days back and forth, usually it is enough :)

itix
11th February 2016, 11:42
Why do you not know the rules in here ??????????????? Stages can be cancelled up to 75% 50% and even 25% according to FIA rules.......... I will tell you what will happen for WRC Sweden! Friday stages will go on because they are ''ok'' and safe... After that Rally will be cancelled because of ''dangerous conditions''... I am not going to discuss ''conditions'' with you! I am not an organizer and I do not know how much Rally Sweden has to pay the Swedish Road Governesses for clearing up/fix the roads after the rally!!!!!!!!... BUT, saying Friday OK, this will give the organizer some revenue on Friday + 25% go for WRC FIA regulation!!........ and they can clear covering the roads on Saturday and Sunday! which gives the organizers room to go clear of bankruptcy!!!!! In my opinion, switch Monte Carlo and Sweden........... or give Sweden always the final weekend in February..... Look at the climate statistics, always 50/50 mid Feb.... but never end of January or final weekend of February!!!! Just saying........ Coming from me who has driven Rally in winter Norway for 6 years!!!!!!!!!!!

AND for all of you wondering about studs / gravel tires ??? Only studs ar FIA allowed on the only ''snow'' Rally which is WRC Sweden.......... JEEEEEESUS..... This has been in the news everywhere, stop asking and discussing!!!!!

Please follow and read posts. It is not that hard to get info on your questions regarding everything about a Rally!

But, when they decide to cancel Friday, WRC points will also be awarded to the 100-75-50-25 % ruling.............. So no full WRC points when less then 11 stages are driven......... Look it up in the appendix of the FIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

God damn.... Why can't people look up rules and regulations before posting here..............?????????????????? ALWAYS THE SAME SHIT.

PEOPLE, RALLY SWEDEN WILL BE CANCELLED AFTER FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gee, breathe. It will do you some good.

Also switching Monte and Sweden won't help one bit. Many years January has been snow free just like February is now. There is no way to predict these things and statistically February is the most wintery month.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th February 2016, 11:53
DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres
Busy fitting this morning, lots of studded tyres to go on rims. @RallySweden organisers given everyone 4 more tyres.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca6yUbYXIAQXhRZ.jpg:large

Fast Eddie WRC
11th February 2016, 11:55
‏@RallySweden
These roads/stages are fixed tonight: Vargåsen, Värmullåsen, Torsby and Fredriksberg.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca7P_PPUcAADLsW.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC
11th February 2016, 11:57
Colin Clark report:

https://www.periscope.tv/w/aYxP5jE1OTM2MDh8MVBsS1FuUnJrdllHRWCJpcedM3bmN5Swmc 3xW7GsP4c8Rkqk8HLEo1W3TG60

EstWRC
11th February 2016, 11:58
Meeting this afternoon (17.30) with @fia, teams and @RallySweden to take a decision #wrc #RallySweden

sindroms
11th February 2016, 12:03
But you know, statistics is average...

"Hospital patients average body temperature is normal (morgue included)" :)

Franky
11th February 2016, 12:09
Why propose such a small change in the time of the event, when you can go extreme. Run Sweden and Finland back to back in the summer. Sweden runs late into the night (not much midnight sun in July) and Finland runs like it usually does. And then you can find some other place for winter rally.

Luijbregts
11th February 2016, 12:51
Breathing :-) and alive... I responded in a new comment! But anyway, if they will go on with all ''newly planned'' stages they have some big balls regarding the budget & safety... but great for the spectators :-)

Fast Eddie WRC
11th February 2016, 12:57
Maybe grading the roads with fresh gravel will work and save the damage being too bad...

Lundefaret
11th February 2016, 13:52
February it is, the coldest month. The rally is exactly at the right time. But you know, statistics is average, but you rarely have average condititions. Most of Estonia and this part of Sweden has two patterns of wetaher in winter. It is really cold (high pressure area) and some snow just before it gets cold or it is warm and rainy (cyclones from ocean). Average weather (statistical average temperatures) is actually not common at all :) Climatologists have been thinking that weather depndent events should be somehow flexible.. so you should be able to shift these events couple of days back and forth, usually it is enough :)

Thanks for the answer, a pleasure having a weather expert on the forum. Okay, then I guess the only "guarantee" is to have it higher up north, or higher in altitude, or at least have a "Plan B" set of stages to use if the conditions are troublesome. This Plan B-solution may be the best?

Rallyper
11th February 2016, 14:15
I will be very pleasantly surprised if this dont end in a canselation...

What cant surely be seen on this picture is how loose the clay on the surface is and how hard the ground is. I´ve been told there´s frozen road in the bottom.

Rallyper
11th February 2016, 14:21
If the frost doesn't go down in the ground, the top layer will be spun away, leaving the tires to go full attack on the soft soil beneath. This will mean huge damage to the roads, and a huge cost to fix them afterwards. A cost Rally Sweden can't really bear, and a lot of grim road owners.

Little snow will also mean more cutting, which also is very damaging for the road.

We will wait and see, I off course hope both the saturday and sunday going as planned. And also this year being down to a freak accident of bad luck weaterwise. :)

What make you state that there is soft soil under?

dimviii
11th February 2016, 14:47
Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 3 ώρεςΠριν από 3 ώρες

Conditions on SS Lesjöfors after recce, a stage organisers have not announced to prepare. @RallySweden #WRC


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca7gwnKWcAAbDaK.jpg

bluuford
11th February 2016, 14:56
Thanks for the answer, a pleasure having a weather expert on the forum. Okay, then I guess the only "guarantee" is to have it higher up north, or higher in altitude, or at least have a "Plan B" set of stages to use if the conditions are troublesome. This Plan B-solution may be the best?

I think that most reasonable is to do it like it is in Monaco. They start in Karlstad, then put cars on trailers, service area somewhere in Hagfors or Mora and stages with remote service starting from Mora-Sälen-Vansbro triangle, then Norway stages and then the stages around colins crest. So, the northern section should almost always have some snow, same for Norwegian stages and last part will be tricky, some years good, others not so good:)

And to clear on the ground frostcase , we have had very similar weather in here and I would say that road bottom is still cpompletely frozen It takes at least month to melt. I have done drilling under ski track in the middle of May, it was +20 outside, for more than a week alrady and in 20 cm depth we found 20 cm fully frozen layer. Surface under the road freezes quickly even with snow as the snow is quickly compacted by cars. Melting takes a long time as first the ice layer needs to melt. Top layer starts to melt and bottom layers often continiues tofreezes as the cold melting water (from the surface) gets too cool again. So, those -5..-7..-10 dgrees is more than enough for roads to freeze that top layer. It will be just a bit more expensive for competitors who need many, many tires. I do not seesafety risk here apart from one. When there is big lake, Pond, river nearby that is slightly frozen and car goes off the road and through the ice, then it will be very difficult for the crew to find the entrance hole in the ice. But for that, you need extremely terrible luck. And it seems that big lakes are still covered by very thick ice layer that should carry all the cars.

EstWRC
11th February 2016, 15:13
So that meeting at 17.30 is called by Michelin. Afraid to hurt their brand name?

hari
11th February 2016, 15:28
Some first pictures from Service:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2016.html

http://www.ir7.at/serv.jpg

bluuford
11th February 2016, 15:39
Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 3 ώρεςΠριν από 3 ώρες

Conditions on SS Lesjöfors after recce, a stage organisers have not announced to prepare. @RallySweden #WRC


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca7gwnKWcAAbDaK.jpg

They try to level these ruts tonight.

Viking
11th February 2016, 15:49
Start list

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Start-List-for-Section-1-TC-1-Ceremonial-Start-Thursday-11th-February-2016.pdf

EstWRC
11th February 2016, 15:52
Damn, I must change my pickem now. I thought latvala and meeke will start from far back not after Tänak .

mousti
11th February 2016, 15:57
Start list

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Start-List-for-Section-1-TC-1-Ceremonial-Start-Thursday-11th-February-2016.pdf

Grondal starts 1 minute after Jim vd Heuvel.. Gorban with his Mini WRC 1 minute after Fabre with his DS3 R3. OOUCHH..

samWRC
11th February 2016, 16:11
Grondal starts 1 minute after Jim vd Heuvel.. Gorban with his Mini WRC 1 minute after Fabre with his DS3 R3. OOUCHH..
And Foulon is again in front of Lappi :D. Luckily there's 2 minutes gap between them.

Teme
11th February 2016, 16:13
Grondal starts 1 minute after Jim vd Heuvel.. Gorban with his Mini WRC 1 minute after Fabre with his DS3 R3. OOUCHH..

Well yes, but that's only for the ceremonial start. But I believe Gröndal will still only get 1 minute gap. And Gorban would need at least 5 minutes anyway to not to catch Fabre...

Fast Eddie WRC
11th February 2016, 17:10
WRC.com

Road grading teams have worked through the night to re-prepare stages ready for this week's Rally Sweden.

"We went out on the stages to grade them before the forecast cold weather arrives," explained Rally Sweden Clerk of the Course Stig-Rune Kjernsli.

"We want to make them good so that when the sub zero temperatures arrive we have a frozen gravel surface."

The grading process smoothed the ruts that appeared during the recce. "The surface now looks very good," added Kjernsli.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th February 2016, 17:12
Next up at the RS press conference is WRC drivers @AMikkelsenRally, @MadsOstberg, @HaydenPaddon and @YazeedRacing.

Should be interesting... ;)

Fast Eddie WRC
11th February 2016, 17:22
Jari-Matti Latvala ‏@JariMattiWRC
Organizers have done a very big job to make @RallySweden happen. My feeling is that we should run some stages !

Great reply to Ogier, Jari ! :D

nafpaktos
11th February 2016, 17:48
Why do you not know the rules in here ??????????????? Stages can be cancelled up to 75% 50% and even 25% according to FIA rules.......... I will tell you what will happen for WRC Sweden! Friday stages will go on because they are ''ok'' and safe... After that Rally will be cancelled because of ''dangerous conditions''... I am not going to discuss ''conditions'' with you! I am not an organizer and I do not know how much Rally Sweden has to pay the Swedish Road Governesses for clearing up/fix the roads after the rally!!!!!!!!... BUT, saying Friday OK, this will give the organizer some revenue on Friday + 25% go for WRC FIA regulation!!........ and they can clear covering the roads on Saturday and Sunday! which gives the organizers room to go clear of bankruptcy!!!!! In my opinion, switch Monte Carlo and Sweden........... or give Sweden always the final weekend in February..... Look at the climate statistics, always 50/50 mid Feb.... but never end of January or final weekend of February!!!! Just saying........ Coming from me who has driven Rally in winter Norway for 6 years!!!!!!!!!!!

AND for all of you wondering about studs / gravel tires ??? Only studs ar FIA allowed on the only ''snow'' Rally which is WRC Sweden.......... JEEEEEESUS..... This has been in the news everywhere, stop asking and discussing!!!!!

Please follow and read posts. It is not that hard to get info on your questions regarding everything about a Rally!

But, when they decide to cancel Friday, WRC points will also be awarded to the 100-75-50-25 % ruling.............. So no full WRC points when less then 11 stages are driven......... Look it up in the appendix of the FIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

God damn.... Why can't people look up rules and regulations before posting here..............?????????????????? ALWAYS THE SAME SHIT.

PEOPLE, RALLY SWEDEN WILL BE CANCELLED AFTER FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chill out man,the stroke is close!!!

Luijbregts
11th February 2016, 18:25
Chill out man,the stroke is close!!!

Again, I have replied after this. Chilliewillie :-) Chill pill taken, hehe!!

dimviii
11th February 2016, 19:09
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca86XYQWIAEUjDw.jpg

Lundefaret
11th February 2016, 19:34
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca86XYQWIAEUjDw.jpg

All hail the organizers, they are doing an awsome job to pull this rally off. Im going to buy a rally pass even tough I cant go due to work obligations :)

Rallyper
11th February 2016, 20:05
The safety is no problem driving on frozen gravel with reduced number of studs. So many rallies during the years has been driven on frozen gravel. Nothing new. One problem to admit is that RS is one of the fastest rallies in the series. But drivers has to adapt. Like Henning said earlier today.

dimviii
11th February 2016, 20:14
So many rallies during the years has been driven on frozen gravel..

sweden 2008

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca6wKHHUkAIR1n5.jpg


Rally Sweden
‏@RallySweden

The teams are allowed to provide 2 more tires to the crews on the road section between SS2 and 3 tomorrow, because of safety reasons. #WRC

Rallyper
11th February 2016, 20:20
sweden 2008

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca6wKHHUkAIR1n5.jpg


Rally Sweden
‏@RallySweden

The teams are allowed to provide 2 more tires to the crews on the road section between SS2 and 3 tomorrow, because of safety reasons. #WRC

I mean also local rallies as well as Swedish Championship. Me myself have ruined many sets of tires on gravel in the past.

Zeakiwi
11th February 2016, 20:34
Why propose such a small change in the time of the event, when you can go extreme. Run Sweden and Finland back to back in the summer. Sweden runs late into the night (not much midnight sun in July) and Finland runs like it usually does. And then you can find some other place for winter rally.

I think run Rally Sweden at the end of May/ beginning of June and the Norf at the end of August. Give amateur crews time to fix cars.

itix
11th February 2016, 21:06
I am devastated for the long term future of the rally with the costs and cuts involved but for the sport as a whole I think the unpredictability could provide a good show. That said, I still bet on ogier as #1 in the pickems ;)

dimviii
11th February 2016, 21:13
Opening day route of Rally Sweden unchanged despite road concerns
By David Evans Thursday, February 11th 2016, 18:59 GMT

Sebastien Ogier, VW, GB WRC 2015

The route for tomorrow's opening day of Rally Sweden will not change, despite concerns for the state of the road in the initial stage.

The rally organisers, FIA, WRC Promoter and manufacturers all met again on Thursday evening to discuss Friday's action, with agreement reached to run all stages planned in the revised itinerary, but with two additional tyres.

The opening superspecial stage in Karlstad was cancelled earlier in the week, but the ceremonial start went ahead as planned and Friday morning's Torsby stage also remains.

The concern at running the 10-miler in Torsby has centred on the impact on the tyres ahead of two longer, full-ice stages which follow across the border in Norway.

The ice cover in Torsby is limited, with the drivers expecting to emerge from the stage with studs missing from their tyres.

With that in mind, the organisers have sanctioned another change to the itinerary and are now building in a remote tyre zone before the Rojden stage, SS3.

The crews will be permitted the two extra tyres at that zone. Using the two spares they will carry in the car, they can then proceed into Norway with four perfect tyres, providing none have punctured.

World Rally Champion Sebastien Ogier admitted this year's Rally Sweden would present a new challenge.

"It's going to be different to before," he told Autosport.

"The stages in Norway are no problem. We have some ice in there and these stages look good. Some of the others look a little bit difficult.

"For sure, we have some stages which are 100 per cent gravel - these can't run."

The organisers have already cancelled eight of the 21 stages.

"It will be tricky," Ogier added. "With no snowbanks it can be quite difficult, but I'm not afraid of this challenge."

No decisions regarding the itinerary for Saturday and Sunday were taken during the meeting.

A source within the event told Autosport: "We're watching the weather, like we have been for the last month!

"We expect the weather to go cold, a lot colder. Minus 10 degrees tonight (Thursday) and minus all day Friday and Friday night would make the stages a lot more workable."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122775?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

BleAivano
11th February 2016, 21:56
According to SMHI, Fredriksberg stage might get some (very little) snow during Friday and Saturday.

dimviii
11th February 2016, 21:58
http://www.fia.com/news/wrc-rally-sweden-press-conference?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

dimviii
11th February 2016, 22:33
first time wrc works fiestas with leds?

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12697021_10205308332683280_7476729578644047337_o.j pg
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/12710864_10205308339363447_7072884574528285455_o.j pg


https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/12694729_10205308332163267_107740675940717061_o.jp g
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12715931_10205308336083365_2367619453759397546_o.j pg
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12716370_10205308331643254_6642178820369253219_o.j pg

noel157
11th February 2016, 23:10
Pretty sure they used LEDs last season, maybe not as small. Nic pics.

Micke_VOC
11th February 2016, 23:27
Startlist for tomorrow.
Published 21:00
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Start-List-for-Section-2-TC-1B-Friday-12-th-February-2016.pdf

pantealex
12th February 2016, 03:17
Startlist for tomorrow.
Published 21:00
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Start-List-for-Section-2-TC-1B-Friday-12-th-February-2016.pdf

Gröndal got better place and Gorban has 4minutes gap to R3T.

sindroms
12th February 2016, 08:52
Here we go - "organizers have confirmed that the opening pass trough Torsby (SS2) will be UNTIMED and use only as a high-speed recce for the second pass this afternoon" (c) wrc+

satukata
12th February 2016, 08:53
why??

Dug83
12th February 2016, 08:54
Has the rally started or is the first stage recce?

Rallyper
12th February 2016, 08:54
This is a joke! Moaning drivers wins over sportmanship. Roads worse than these has always been a fact. Champions should not be childish!!

EightGear
12th February 2016, 08:55
Well what? Nothing about that on WRC live.

Bartek
12th February 2016, 08:56
Did Bernie and his boys from F1 paddock came to WRC?

Googol
12th February 2016, 08:56
Well what? Nothing about that on WRC live.

They said about that but they weren't sure and now they think it's a normal stage.

jonkka
12th February 2016, 08:56
Has the rally started or is the first stage recce?

Recce as sind says above.

samWRC
12th February 2016, 08:56
What's happening out there :D

EightGear
12th February 2016, 08:57
Mads very slow already.

Dug83
12th February 2016, 08:58
Well what? Nothing about that on WRC live.

It's in the live text bit.

EightGear
12th February 2016, 09:00
It's in the live text bit.
Everyone is going full throttle though, no comments about recce at all.

samWRC
12th February 2016, 09:01
They don't know they are doing recce? What a mess :D

EightGear
12th February 2016, 09:01
Doesnt look like it, neither does the radio.

Bartek
12th February 2016, 09:03
Driveshaft problem for Latvala...

samWRC
12th February 2016, 09:03
Lol Latvala's car is broken already...

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 09:04
Dmacks working nicely, Go Ott!

satukata
12th February 2016, 09:05
UPDATE from the clerk of the course - the stage (SS2) IS running competitively. Apologies for any confusion.

Dug83
12th February 2016, 09:05
UPDATE

UPDATE from the clerk of the course - the stage (SS2) IS running competitively. Apologies for any confusion.

sindroms
12th February 2016, 09:06
Doesnt look like it, neither does the radio.

And results are there too...What a f...k is going on?

Added print-screen from wrcplus live text box.

jonkka
12th February 2016, 09:09
UPDATE

UPDATE from the clerk of the course - the stage (SS2) IS running competitively. Apologies for any confusion.

Nice confusion! This year's Rally Sweden seems to be a historical, monumental...

samWRC
12th February 2016, 09:09
And splits are not working.

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 09:09
here it starts again, same story, different year. Östberg: Not a good stage for me. unfortunately I suffered a bit, not a good feeling. I have to get used to driving the car in these conditions."

Filip Giedo
12th February 2016, 09:13
Equal opening for Hyundai buys. Shame that Jari already has problems :(

Rallyper
12th February 2016, 09:15
And splits are not working.

Splits working fine!

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 09:17
in wrc+ you mean?

samWRC
12th February 2016, 09:17
Splits working fine!
Yep now they are :)

samWRC
12th February 2016, 09:19
Lappi going to catch Foulon on the stage?

satukata
12th February 2016, 09:19
splits working in wrc.com but no in wrc+

Rallyper
12th February 2016, 09:19
in wrc+ you mean?

No on public WRC.

drive
12th February 2016, 09:19
@Craig_Breen: « So, so fast. It was slushy on my test so it's hard to get my head around the different conditions. »

makinen_fan
12th February 2016, 09:21
Ogier tyres after stage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca_9TN8W8AAJzjj.jpg

sindroms
12th February 2016, 09:24
Ogier tyres after stage

I would say after 16km on frozen gravel tires are in perfect shape...

Sulland
12th February 2016, 09:26
Foulon in N4 HAS to be moved back on the start list, even if he might have an issue.
Seeding do strange things on the startlist some times!

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 09:26
Lappi 9 secs slower than Evans but Tidemand just 0.2 behind Evans. Both 10 secs faster than Camilli.

JUF
12th February 2016, 09:27
Is Mr. Ptaszek more talented than everyone thought? Solid job at Monte-Carlo and a good time at SS2 here... ;)

RS
12th February 2016, 09:27
Rather good time by Ptaszek??

WUff1
12th February 2016, 09:32
Lappi 9 secs slower than Evans but Tidemand just 0.2 behind Evans. Both 10 secs faster than Camilli.

Lappi was hindered by Foulon as expected - 2 minutes interval were not enough

JUF
12th February 2016, 09:32
Referring to Ptaszek: 13,3s behind Evans is ok, isn't it? I didn't expected that of him...

samWRC
12th February 2016, 09:38
Suninen is quick in first split.

satukata
12th February 2016, 09:38
Foulon is joke

satukata
12th February 2016, 09:40
Suninen flying..

satukata
12th February 2016, 09:44
Suninen fastest R5/wrc2

Rallyper
12th February 2016, 09:51
Bergkvist doing fine as well.

samWRC
12th February 2016, 09:52
What is the situation of Latvala right now?

Googol
12th February 2016, 09:53
Update: Broken driveshaft on @JariMattiWRC's car at front left, will continue with two wheel drive #WRC #Volkswagen

Sulland
12th February 2016, 09:58
Oscar Solberg (Hennings son) in a Subaru seems in problems on ss2.

samWRC
12th February 2016, 09:59
Well Ogier is happy with the conditions. That's surprise :D

AL14
12th February 2016, 10:03
What a disaster for Latvala. He did not deserve this. Camilli too slow, Breen not bad and very nice battles in wrc2

N.O.T
12th February 2016, 10:05
What is the situation of Latvala right now?

exactly the same as in the last 20 years, it is getting a bit tiresome.

Eli
12th February 2016, 10:08
so does this mean 3rd win for Ogier in Sweden?? or is this still to early to tell? 'cause the scandinavians are driving horrendously...and even Meeke is still slower than Ogier..and there are hardly any snowbanks...or are there?

AL14
12th February 2016, 10:08
Split not working for me on mobile app. Will they ever have an entire rally wothout having problems with that? For god's sake the village events here in tuscany are more reliable. It's funny to see Wilson asking what's missing in WRC and then they cannot deliver a basic service that a nerd loser can easily do from his little bedroom.

satukata
12th February 2016, 10:09
Ott faster than Mads again. Good Ott!

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 10:11
Tänak fastest Ford again. Dmacks seem to lose a lot the end of the stages, same story as in monaco but they obviously working a lot better here.

N.O.T
12th February 2016, 10:14
so does this mean 3rd win for Ogier in Sweden?? or is this still to early to tell? 'cause the scandinavians are driving horrendously...and even Meeke is still slower than Ogier..and there are hardly any snowbanks...or are there?

how hard it is to live your life ?

samWRC
12th February 2016, 10:15
Even Bertelli is faster than Camilli...

AL14
12th February 2016, 10:23
Even Bertelli is faster than Camilli...

No he overcame it at the and!!1! What a great fight between the two!! Looking forward to next stage!1!!1! yaaayyy

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 10:25
Paddon not doing great at the moment but long way to go.

stefanvv
12th February 2016, 10:37
that's something new:
Now it is official: Winter is back in Karlstad – look at the Volkswagen compound. Keep it snowing! @RallySweden (http://www.twitter.com/RallySweden) https://t.co/tvonqNwFxZ

HarriK
12th February 2016, 10:38
Rendina started now in front of Lappi.
start times: foulon 10:32 rendina 10:35 ja lappi 10:38

samWRC
12th February 2016, 10:43
What a time by Åhlin.

rage82
12th February 2016, 10:45
Crazy time by Ahlin on this stage. Let's see what Sunninen can do.

Sulland
12th February 2016, 10:47
What tyrebrands are the top WRC2 drivers on ?

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 10:48
Michelin, Pärn and Aasen with dmacks.

had_zachau
12th February 2016, 10:49
oneone pirelli?

pantealex
12th February 2016, 10:49
What tyrebrands are the top WRC2 drivers on ?

M-sport and Skoda for sure with Michelin

rp
12th February 2016, 10:52
Anders Grøndal is using Pirelli...

& Hubert Ptaszek

satukata
12th February 2016, 10:52
really bad for latvala!! why there is no midday service???Whole Rally pissed

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 10:54
really bad for latvala!! why there is no midday service???Whole Rally pissed

Because the promoter decided that the service should be in Karlstad and not in Hagfors.

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 11:04
Apparently Åhlin have some problems with his car. http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2505&artikel=6367094
It is understeering because of problems with the Anti-roll bar.

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 11:05
Heavy snow fall over the rally stages in Fryksdalen. https://twitter.com/Leffevetallt/status/698086746618273792

stefanvv
12th February 2016, 11:05
drama begins:
Fri 11:14 - SS4: Ogier
He completes in 12m47.9 but there is damage to his car's front left. Most of the wing is missing. He's straight out to have a look. "There was a big, big water splash in the stage, it was not in my notes. The organisers said it was a bump. I couldn't turn after it and went into the trees. I must go and work on the car."

Neuuville also in some trouble

Bartek
12th February 2016, 11:11
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12669585_10153293968546960_2596285247169938505_n.j pg?oh=65d747d4d526c6bc7d8a11de6254e847&oe=576CD25B

Filip Giedo
12th February 2016, 11:19
Any ideas what happend to Neuville? Almost 1.5 minute loss to Ogier...

had_zachau
12th February 2016, 11:20
transmission problem

makinen_fan
12th February 2016, 11:21
front wheel drive from what i understood

Filip Giedo
12th February 2016, 11:21
Thanks, had_zachau.
Everything clear :

Fri 11:18 - SS4: Neuville
1m23sec slower than Ogier. His car's hazard warning lights are flashing as he completes. "We have a transmission problem. I don't know what. One-wheel-drive I think."

Filip Giedo
12th February 2016, 11:22
Thanks, had_zachau.
Everything clear :

Fri 11:18 - SS4: Neuville
1m23sec slower than Ogier. His car's hazard warning lights are flashing as he completes. "We have a transmission problem. I don't know what. One-wheel-drive I think."

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 11:23
Tänak fastest between split 2 and 3. Really happy for dmacks at the moment.

PLuto
12th February 2016, 11:30
Rendina started now in front of Lappi.
start times: foulon 10:32 rendina 10:35 ja lappi 10:38

No, Rendina retired after SS 2 - http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=373&crewId=28749

Mirek
12th February 2016, 11:34
So Ogier leads by half a minute after 60 km, what a humiliation of others. Now if the guy only stops moaning about everything...

N.O.T
12th February 2016, 11:34
that sums up the rally for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4

Mirek
12th February 2016, 11:46
There was somebody predicting Brynildsen would easily beat Evans. He was badly wrong...

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 11:47
Great fight between Åhlin, Evans and Tidemand.

PLuto
12th February 2016, 11:51
There was somebody predicting Brynildsen would easily beat Evans. He was badly wrong...

Eyvind is not so good driver...

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 11:53
Just 9 seconds between Meeke, Sordo, Ostberg and Tänak!

Filip Giedo
12th February 2016, 11:56
Great battle between Ahlin, Evans and Tidemand. Beside Ogier's quite bit advantage, the WRC 2 competition seems to me the most interesting and enjoyable. I hope that R5's people will keep their pace up and deliver more emotions.

Sulland
12th February 2016, 11:59
There was somebody predicting Brynildsen would easily beat Evans. He was badly wrong...

He thought one driveshaft had broken on last stage, but Evans is quick.
Will be cool to see the times of Åhlin when he gets in a rear anti rollbar..

But all in all a nice battle, and more interessting than WRC, where the lead normally is subscribed to by a Sebastian.
But battle for second is good!

liposh
12th February 2016, 12:18
Great battle between Ahlin, Evans and Tidemand. Beside Ogier's quite bit advantage, the WRC 2 competition seems to me the most interesting and enjoyable. I hope that R5's people will keep their pace up and deliver more emotions.

I think it would be nice if some big video-group of fans (I mean for example BORL) would focus just on WRC2 and make some 20-30 minutes magazine after each round. Nearly every single fan would appreciate it (and it means also profits from advertisements etc.)

RS
12th February 2016, 12:34
There was somebody predicting Brynildsen would easily beat Evans. He was badly wrong...

That was probably a Norwegian person.

mm1
12th February 2016, 12:35
(34 - Brynildsen Eyvind / Fredriksson Anders): I think we have a broken driveshaft or rear diff. It's too long back to service. I really hoped this would be the weekend.

RS
12th February 2016, 12:35
To me, it seems in these conditions that the new Fiesta R5 is at least equal to the Skoda.

rallyfiend
12th February 2016, 12:36
Because the promoter decided that the service should be in Karlstad and not in Hagfors.

Even when service was in Hagfors there was still no midday service. The Norway stages are too far away to come back for.

Mirek
12th February 2016, 12:48
(34 - Brynildsen Eyvind / Fredriksson Anders): I think we have a broken driveshaft or rear diff. It's too long back to service. I really hoped this would be the weekend.

Yes, on stage 3. He was already 15 seconds behind Evans after SS2 (9 seconds down after SS1).

XXX
12th February 2016, 12:55
Haha. It's very easy to beat everyone with a broken rear diff

HarriK
12th February 2016, 13:04
Good amount of snow!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMwkXK8BuYc
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMwkXK8BuYc)

itix
12th February 2016, 13:23
Somewhat Impressive start by Bergkvist. About 33s off the WRC2 lead on first attempt. Hope his consistency stays and his speed improves.

Sulland
12th February 2016, 13:27
Is Mikkelsen is playing psych games with Ogier, giving up the win, and hoping for relaxation on Ogier, and a mistake?

stefanvv
12th February 2016, 13:29
Fri 13:37 - SS7: Mikkelsen
19.9sec slower than Ogier and his car has damage to the left side of its front bumper. "I lost the rear a bit and hit a tree stump, it spun the car around and I stalled. I lost a lot of time. I think my chance for first place is gone. It's all about second place now."

EightGear
12th February 2016, 13:31
Is Mikkelsen is playing psych games with Ogier, giving up the win, and hoping for relaxation on Ogier, and a mistake?
A mind game with Ogier? You do realise that's impossible?

stefanvv
12th February 2016, 13:33
Meeke is very fast now

jonkka
12th February 2016, 13:34
A mind game with Ogier? You do realise that's impossible?

Yeah, robots are mindless.

car
12th February 2016, 13:34
Meeke flying

had_zachau
12th February 2016, 13:35
looks that dmack tires works on snow ..

stefanvv
12th February 2016, 13:37
gonna be great time by Paddon as well

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 13:39
Tänak just 2.4 secs from podium. Dmacks seem to work well but im still sure they arent as good as michelins.

itix
12th February 2016, 13:47
Good time by breen... helped by conditions of course but still!

leighton323
12th February 2016, 13:48
Has anyone looked at 3rd to 7th in the overall standings.. Crazy good battle going on there.

Rallyper
12th February 2016, 13:50
Somewhat Impressive start by Bergkvist. About 33s off the WRC2 lead on first attempt. Hope his consistency stays and his speed improves.

Both guys are ill having fever and Jocke Sjöberg is vomiting between stages. Emil says he hopes to be more fresh tommorrow so he can drive 100%...!!!

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 13:51
Has anyone looked at 3rd to 7th in the overall standings.. Crazy good battle going on there.

yesss! just 4 secs separating them!

Mirek
12th February 2016, 13:53
I'm positively surprised by Breen.

Rallyper
12th February 2016, 13:57
I'm positively surprised by Breen.

What happened to him? I mean where did he find the speed suddenly?

itix
12th February 2016, 13:58
Both guys are ill having fever and Jocke Sjöberg is vomiting between stages. Emil says he hopes to be more fresh tommorrow so he can drive 100%...!!!

Gee O_O

About breen, he had third best time on SS7 (svullrya)

HarriK
12th February 2016, 14:04
Lappi on attack now!
Pontus some problems? Lost almost one minute.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:05
Great time by Breen - he's really enjoying himself now ! :D

“I feel completely at one with this car, I feel I’ve been given a great opportunity”

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 14:06
Gutted for Tidemand, broken drive shaft.

bluuford
12th February 2016, 14:06
I'm positively surprised by Breen.
First cars are complaining about a lot of snow on the road, later runners benefit. but quite good time anyway

Sulland
12th February 2016, 14:06
If Henning still have the downshift issue, and it is due to a Software glitch. Can the teams go in remotely, maybe via SatCom and do a reset in the "brain"?

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:06
SS7: BREEN
Third quickest - and he's quicker than Ogier by 1.2sec! "How do you explain that? I'm almost lost for words! I feel completely at one with this car. With this car I feel like I've been given a huge opportunity - It's like I've found a Willy Wonka golden ticket!"

itix
12th February 2016, 14:08
Loads of broken drive shafts... is there something in the road or are they all going off and damaging them?

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:08
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbBDbjZWIAAV-Tf.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbBDboZWIAAGhj6.jpg

Bartek
12th February 2016, 14:15
Ogier is +/-30 seconds slower than this morning on Rojden, big chance for Kris

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:16
Ogier losing time to the others here...

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:20
Go Mads ! :)

Rallyper
12th February 2016, 14:20
Emil now on 5th place!

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 14:21
Tänak is very fast so far on the stage.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:21
SS8 snow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbBIH0hW8AEdKUc.jpg

arko5
12th February 2016, 14:24
So Meeke out....

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:24
Meeke going well again... Go Kris !

Rallyper
12th February 2016, 14:25
So Meeke out....

????

Mariusz
12th February 2016, 14:25
Meeke going well again... Go Kris !
Looks like he has stopped.

arko5
12th February 2016, 14:26
he is not moving, Paddon just passed him awey

arko5
12th February 2016, 14:27
he is not moving, Paddon just passed him away

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:28
Dammnit what happened ?

EightGear
12th February 2016, 14:28
Meeke already stopped for 2 minutes.

itix
12th February 2016, 14:28
Aaargh :(

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 14:29
Meeke already stopped for 2 minutes.

Such a shame, he was doing very well.

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 14:32
damn Paddon you ruined dmack's first stage win !

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:33
Paddon 2nd O/A... amazing.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:34
AbuDhabiRacing
‏@AbuDhabiRacing1
#WRC #RallySweden Confirmed: @krismeeke stopped in SS8. Hit something in a slow corner, direction broken.

:( :(

Bartek
12th February 2016, 14:35
AbuDhabiRacing
‏@AbuDhabiRacing1
#WRC #RallySweden Confirmed: @krismeeke stopped in SS8. Hit something in a slow corner, direction broken.

ah what a shame...

samWRC
12th February 2016, 14:36
damn Paddon you ruined dmack's first stage win !
Novikov took stage win in 2012 Rally Spain and he was using DMACKs.

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 14:37
oh ok, first stage win after a long time then

AL14
12th February 2016, 14:39
Good job by Hayden. Let's see if he can take the second place now.
By the way, did Hyundai just lost their time and money to develop this car? I see no differences after one rally and a half.

itix
12th February 2016, 14:40
Can't ogier break a drive shaft now? It is his turn... his luck has to run out sooner or later :(

Mirek
12th February 2016, 14:43
By the way, did Hyundai just lost their time and money to develop this car? I see no differences after one rally and a half.

The others don't sleep either.

AL14
12th February 2016, 14:45
The others don't sleep either.

True, but this year there were more expectation from Hyundai since it is more a new car than the same with some adjustment.

AL14
12th February 2016, 14:47
Can't ogier break a drive shaft now? It is his turn... his luck has to run out sooner or later :(

Don't live it like that, or you will be like the one who was hoping the same to Loeb for a decade. Just accept it mate. :)

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:48
O/A times not working on WRC.com & Rally-base ?

Bartek
12th February 2016, 14:50
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12705355_10153294152006960_8609006146472580720_n.j pg?oh=8be6ea3ec5c40633403a1c37e8835e94&oe=57610413

Mintexmemory
12th February 2016, 14:50
Can't ogier break a drive shaft now? It is his turn... his luck has to run out sooner or later :(
The trouble is that it isn't luck - he sees problems that the others don't and is impeccable in his decision making processes. He also is rarely at the limit of his personal abilities and hence has a more considered and controlled response to any given situation. Simply head and shoulders above everyone of his competitors (never rivals!)

PLuto
12th February 2016, 14:52
O/A times not working on WRC.com & Rally-base ?

Sorry, but problem is in original source. They are totally crazy and always changing numbers of stages and senging crazy data. Sometimes SS Torsby is SS 1, sometimes it is SS 2. And it is very similar also with other stages...

itix
12th February 2016, 14:57
Completely missed it but Bergkvist beat Åhlins time on SS7... and not too far beind the rest (20 s). Good stuff for someone with winter stomach flu if Rallyper's info is correct.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 14:57
Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
Local radio forecasting 20cm of snow on that next 24hrs ! This is going to get very interesting indeed ! Snow shovels anyone ????

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 14:57
Åhlin also has some problems with the throttle getting stuck, causing a spin in which Åhlin lost allot of time.

http://www.vf.se/sport/bilsport/problem-tidemand-och-ahlin

itix
12th February 2016, 14:58
Super time by tidemand on ss8 if his drive shaft is indeed broken O_O

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 14:59
Tidemand have repaired his car and got it working again.

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 15:02
Breen has spunned,

AbuDhabiRacing ‏@AbuDhabiRacing1 (https://twitter.com/AbuDhabiRacing1) 16s17 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/AbuDhabiRacing1/status/698147537413414912) #WRC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WRC?src=hash) #RallySweden (https://twitter.com/hashtag/RallySweden?src=hash) @Craig_Breen (https://twitter.com/Craig_Breen) spun in SS8, 9th time and still P8 overall

makinen_fan
12th February 2016, 15:03
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbBRopQWAAAyM8X.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 15:06
krismeeke.com ‏@krismeeke
#WRC #RallySweden

"Unbelievable!!! Identical to Monte Carlo. I follow the line in a slow corner and a stone buried in the road..INCREDIBLE!"

dimviii
12th February 2016, 15:12
Lappi Esapekka - Ferm Janne "On the first corner I lost the rear. I started to spin and the front went into a ditch. We were stuck, that's all. Still, we are here. The most important thing is the experience. For sure I'm disappointed."

Grundo Farb
12th February 2016, 15:15
damn Paddon you ruined dmack's first stage win !

Mate, I know you are a fan of Tanak but don't be a dick. Saying damn you paddon is bad sportsmanship.

dimviii
12th February 2016, 15:16
Ostberg ss3

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/26241_cbap5i0usaaf8kn.jpg

he was moaning with ds3 about setup difficulties,different way of driving etc.Also he was happy with fiesta at pre event setups.
Tired from excuses.

Zeropt
12th February 2016, 15:17
"Unbelievable!!! Identical to Monte Carlo. I follow the line in a slow corner and a stone buried in the road..INCREDIBLE!"

Stones 2 - DS3 WRC 0

:/

dimviii
12th February 2016, 15:18
positions 2-3-4-5-6 inside 10 sec

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 15:18
We all know he's the best driver, but it is amazing that Ogier never has a bad mechanical or unluckily hits something the way all the others do ...
If he did at least it would make the rallies appear more competitive.

This rally is typical - incidents for Latvala, Neuville & Meeke - most of the closest challengers. :(

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 15:19
Per Eklund says that Torsby stage looks better now then it did during the morning loop.

dimviii
12th February 2016, 15:20
positions 2-3-4-5-6 inside 10 sec


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dimviii
12th February 2016, 15:21
positions 2-3-4-5-6 inside 10 sec


https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/12696920_1105215479509130_8160427441855721874_o.jp g

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12717839_10207839179529303_2945503334366414040_n.j pg?oh=badba36eed3b6e7792026644c8948d17&oe=5730D65F

itix
12th February 2016, 15:22
Lappi Esapekka - Ferm Janne "On the first corner I lost the rear. I started to spin and the front went into a ditch. We were stuck, that's all. Still, we are here. The most important thing is the experience. For sure I'm disappointed."

Experience? You have done championships in R5/s2000 since 2012 and you have done several arctic rally finland. Sure it is your first rally sweden but you should seriously have the experience by now!

RS
12th February 2016, 15:22
Has anyone worked out how to shoehorn the word 'crash' into Lappi's name yet?

Mintexmemory
12th February 2016, 15:23
Can Paddon capitalise on position and Ogier's damage to be right in the mix at the end of today? Hope so!
Mod advice : Unsporting comments from partisan fans are unavoidable from time to time. Abusing them for such an error of judgement is in itself also not bright and falls into an equally undesirable category. Please cut it out or I shall delete posts

Mintexmemory
12th February 2016, 15:23
Has anyone worked out how to shoehorn the word 'crash' into Lappi's name yet?

Lappcident

dimviii
12th February 2016, 15:26
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/12716172_10208459483345444_2087068805044666500_o.j pg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbArVtYWAAE3P0C.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbAh4wtWAAANlQz.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbAQwn2UkAA6FW0.jpg
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Karukera
12th February 2016, 15:27
Stones 2 - DS3 WRC 0

Fixed : Stones 2 - Meeke 0

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 15:27
Has anyone worked out how to shoehorn the word 'crash' into Lappi's name yet?

Crappi ;)

rayh_mx
12th February 2016, 15:29
Has anyone worked out how to shoehorn the word 'crash' into Lappi's name yet?

Lashppi

Mintexmemory
12th February 2016, 15:31
Fixed : Stones 2 - Meeke 0

The Stones go on to meet the winner of the JML v tree stump tie in the nex round!

makinen_fan
12th February 2016, 15:33
Has anyone worked out how to shoehorn the word 'crash' into Lappi's name yet?

Esapecrash Lappi

Mintexmemory
12th February 2016, 15:33
Crappi ;)

Too critical of ability rather than summarising usual outcomes a La Evada Nuvveroff

Zeropt
12th February 2016, 15:34
The Stones go on to meet the winner of the JML v tree stump tie in the nex round!

=D

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 15:35
And they talk about 'The luck of the Irish'...

I dont know two less lucky drivers than Irishmen Meeke and Breen ! :(

dimviii
12th February 2016, 15:39
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12715297_10204320038360996_6343447504833208989_n.j pg?oh=eade50cb758181c43a9718e3b8ed53ef&oe=57649815

Fast Eddie WRC
12th February 2016, 15:40
Ostberg ss3

he was moaning with ds3 about setup difficulties,different way of driving etc.Also he was happy with fiesta at pre event setups.
Tired from excuses.

I bit harsh on Mads I think. He has improved after this morning.

Mads: "Being in the battle for second is encouraging. It's been an enjoyable afternoon. I needed time to get used to the car on this surface. Now I feel much better."

RS
12th February 2016, 15:41
Lappcident

I think we have a winner!

Thanks for all the contributions.

Mintexmemory
12th February 2016, 15:42
They have both clearly run over a lepracaun at sometime in their respective careers!
(Meeke and Breen I mean)

EstWRC
12th February 2016, 15:43
impressive day from Tänak! really really happy.

TWRC
12th February 2016, 15:43
Neuville: "This is the game. Sometimes life is hard. I feel like I'm doing a two-wheel drive championship in the last few races. We are getting used to it."

Looks like he lost his smile quite quickly. Although he is right to some extent.

EightGear
12th February 2016, 15:43
Esacrasha Lappi.

BleAivano
12th February 2016, 15:44
More problems for JML

Magnus Carlqvist ‏@MagnusCarlqvist (https://twitter.com/MagnusCarlqvist) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/MagnusCarlqvist/status/698157411799011329) Latvala with bråken right front suspension! SS9 #RallySweden (https://twitter.com/hashtag/RallySweden?src=hash) @JariMattiWRC (https://twitter.com/JariMattiWRC) #rallyradion (https://twitter.com/hashtag/rallyradion?src=hash) #WRC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WRC?src=hash)



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbBabOhW0AEwenN.jpg:large