Rally Sweden 2014

[jonkka]

Worst place to hit problems, it's long way to midday service.

[HarriK]

Thierry moving again! great!

[er88]

WOW :eek:

[dimviii]

Neuville is moving again but team says he has damaged wheel carrier @HyundaiWRC @thierryneuville

[KKS]

Now fortune way back from Ogier

[er88]

Top 5 covered by 20secs....delicately poised :smokin: :bounce:

[KKS]

Neuville is moving again but team says he has damaged wheel carrier @HyundaiWRC @thierryneuville
and long way to service, not big chance to reach a goal

[dimviii]

Very difficult for Neuville and Gilsoul: even if they can effect emergency repairs, still 42.75km to Service

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf21fo-IgAAf19w.jpg

[noel157]

Which is it, Meeke is surprisingly slow or Evans is surprisingly fast? Meeke is much more experienced yet they are separated only by approx 20 secs.

Yes, Meeke is relatively slow. He has said he's only driving at 90%. First ever winter rally, just taking it handy and not interested in times.

[noel157]

WTF? Did I just read that Mirek has been banned? Who on earth came up with that idea? He's the most knowledgably guy in here when it comes to rally, and is always helpful when somebody has a technical question.

Was banned or is still banned?
WAKE UP MODERATORS!
Looks like Moderators trying to close WRC discussion here, just post from privileged users and ban notification

:rolleyes: and have a heavy sigh too. Mirek is not banned. There is an ongoing matter he is concerned with but only the forum owner or an administrator can resolve. In the meantime can we stop hysteria and stop typing in CAPITAL LETTERS!!!!!!
Back to the subject of this thread please and less wild accusations too (or else ;))

Many others are concerned too.

[Nikey]

Neuville got a time 51.05 from ss8

[dimviii]

SS8 Fredriksberg 1 is live and Prokop is in the stage - 18.15km long...as SS10 last year Latvala was fastest in 10:24.6

[er88]

Which is it, Meeke is surprisingly slow or Evans is surprisingly fast? Meeke is much more experienced yet they are separated only by approx 20 secs.

Yes, Meeke is relatively slow. He has said he's only driving at 90%. First ever winter rally, just taking it handy and not interested in times.

I would expect Meeke will slighty up his pace for the 2nd loop today depending on how close he is to guys around him- Tiedemand, Solberg, Evans etc. Exciting rally shaping up!

Any live stages today guys??

[jonkka]

SS8 Fredriksberg 1 is live and Prokop is in the stage - 18.15km long...as SS10 last year Latvala was fastest in 10:24.6

You mean SS9 is live.

[dimviii]

SS8 Fredriksberg 1 is live and Prokop is in the stage - 18.15km long...as SS10 last year Latvala was fastest in 10:24.6

You mean SS9 is live.

probably you are right,just copy it from irally twitter

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf22m3YIUAAmb5r.jpg

[Fly]

Kristian Sohlberg stopped as well?

His statistics looked already dramatic before this rally. 31 WRC starts, 20 retirements. http://www.juwra.com/sohlberg_kristian.html worse than Duval's http://www.juwra.com/duval_francois.html

Too bad, the guy has got the speed and was excited to get back in an proper car.

[dimviii]

Neuville hit a rock according to rradio.Last years luck seems finished.Tough times for him.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf2-Ha3IcAAIFXM.jpg

[jonkka]

Henning will break into top-10 soon

[jonkka]

Henning will break into top-10 soon

My bad, he already was in top-10 due to Ogier's and Neuville's problems...

[Carbon]

Henning will break into top-10 soon

My bad, he already was in top-10 due to Ogier's and Neuville's problems...

9th now. :bounce:

[dimviii]

Henning will break into top-10 soon
position 7 will be at night if he continue like this

[Carbon]

Ott is fast. Damn good. :bounce:

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3BWhMCcAAiHT5.jpg

[GallardoGT]

So quick hard braking just before jumps with less spectecular jumps is the trick to be fast, that's what Hänninen says on WRC radio right?

[Rallyper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3BWhMCcAAiHT5.jpg

As said. Now the real rally has begun...

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3BWhMCcAAiHT5.jpg
Maybe spectators must put less effort on it to bring some fight for a win? +4 min could be not enough

[jonkka]

Is Latvala waiting for the next long one and saving his tyres or his Andreas just too fast for him? Soon we will see but I have to say that Mikkelsen has been doing extremely well so far.

[KKS]

Looks like Protasov fix susp. problems. Showing good pace on SS9

[Bartek]

Is Latvala waiting for the next long one and saving his tyres or his Andreas just too fast for him? Soon we will see but I have to say that Mikkelsen has been doing extremely well so far.

Agree, but to be honest I think that Andreas is one man rally... of course he is fast but I don't think he will be able to compete with Seb and JML for example in Mexico

[dupanton]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3BWhMCcAAiHT5.jpg
Maybe spectators must put less effort on it to bring some fight for a win? +4 min could be not enough

Are you serious?? This is not Dakar...

[Rallyper]

Is Latvala waiting for the next long one and saving his tyres or his Andreas just too fast for him? Soon we will see but I have to say that Mikkelsen has been doing extremely well so far.

Agree, but to be honest I think that Andreas is one man rally... of course he is fast but I don't think he will be able to compete with Seb and JML for example in Mexico

Let´s do this rally before we speak about Mexico...

[Viking]

Latvala remembered us that Mikkelsen did not drive rally Sweden last year and he was a bit impressed..
In fact last time Mikkel was in a wrc car in Sweden was back in 2008! He did it in the Fabia s2000 in 2012.

[KKS]

Are you serious?? This is not Dakar...
I remember one french at Monte who nearly do it with +5min diff :D

[Mintexmemory]

Some strange splits, Henning seems to be very erratic from one stage to the next. Tyres?

[jonkka]

What's with Henning's 1st split?

[dimviii]

Are you serious?? This is not Dakar...
I remember one french at Monte who nearly do it with +5min diff :D

at snow is impossible.

[Mirek]

Latvala remembered us that Mikkelsen did not drive rally Sweden last year and he was a bit impressed..
In fact last time Mikkel was in a wrc car in Sweden was back in 2008! He did it in the Fabia s2000 in 2012.

I have to admit I'm really impressed with Mikkelsen. I was one of those who considered his previous performance in VW as rather bad but I'm happy he shows very serious speed in Sweden!

[dimviii]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1619428_595104447236281_1387816622_n.jpg

[Viking]

What's with Henning's 1st split?

"I had a spin! Snow in the road...I had to dance around "

[dupanton]

Are you serious?? This is not Dakar...
I remember one french at Monte who nearly do it with +5min diff :D

There is a big difference between a rally where tyre choices etc always create differences of minutes and a rally where it is always a close fight for the first places.
Just look at the difference the last years, Rally Sweden is always much closer then Rallye Monte Carlo...

[KKS]

Impressive start for Mikko at SS10.

[Mintexmemory]

Meeke loses a position to Tidemand - Hope he remains patient and careful all points are valuable when the Champ doesn't look like scoring!

[KKS]

Are you serious?? This is not Dakar...
I remember one french at Monte who nearly do it with +5min diff :D

There is a big difference between a rally where tyre choices etc always create differences of minutes and a rally where it is always a close fight for the first places.
Just look at the difference the last years, Rally Sweden is always much closer then Rallye Monte Carlo...
Jep, you are right.
I just want to secure non-Ogier fight for a victory :)

[jonkka]

Impressive start for Mikko at SS10.

But not so impressive 3rd split.

[uranium]

Off top, how to adjust wrc radio volume? Is it only for me it's so quiet?

[Moriarty]

Off top, how to adjust wrc radio volume? Is it only for me it's so quiet?
Try WRC app. It's more loud.

[Mintexmemory]

Ogier and Latvala appear to have hit the zone! Very amusing first split for Yazeed! (edit corrected now :( )

[KKS]

Off top, how to adjust wrc radio volume? Is it only for me it's so quiet?
So quiet for me too.
All volume adjustment on max and still not loud.

[jonkka]

Latvala takes lead?

[dimviii]

Latvala takes lead?

yep after Mikkelsen hot moment in stage.
Mikkelsen 12:04.3: "We went out in a ditch in fourth or fifth gear, lucky we got out...lot of snow"

[Moriarty]

No live stream from MM stage?

[Mintexmemory]

Stunning time for Seb!

[Viking]

wrc.com*s this years new "Live" splits is not only more static than last years, but usually 4 minutes late :mad:

[KKS]

WRR says that SS11 live on TV? where to watch?

[dimviii]

Ogier if he continue with this pace,is possible to finish at 7th position.If we have more retirements from top 6,maybe higher.With power stage points,is possible to left from Sweden with some points.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen after the ditch at stage end
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3RbMsIMAAZM3e.jpg

[dimviii]

(3 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): There is something wrong with the car, we have to go. :vader:

[jonkka]

Funny how much faster Henning is on such a short stage...

[Rallyper]

Funny how much faster Henning is on such a short stage...

He was in rallyX-mode... :cool:

[jonkka]

And how slow Latvala is. Poland 2009 still haunts him? :D

[Juha_Koo]

And how slow Latvala is. Poland 2009 still haunts him? :D

Latvala has some problems using Polo's gearbox on those mickey mouse stages... I don't know what's the exact issue.

[Mintexmemory]

And how slow Latvala is. Poland 2009 still haunts him? :D
You could interpret it as new-found maturity, this rally is his for the taking.

[jonkka]

Henning wins a stage?!

[GINE]

Funny how much faster Henning is on such a short stage...
Maybe Pirelli are better for the condition of this short stage

[N.O.T]

I think it is realistic for Ogier to aim for places 10-7 and if someone retires he could be even higher.

[Mirek]

Henning wins a stage?!

This same show stage was won by Prokop in S2000 car three years back so I would take it easy ;)

[makinen_fan]

Ogier catching Tidemand is more than realistic. He is 130s ahead and Ogier can be approx 0.95s/km faster. There are still 200km to go, that means taking 190s out of him.

[dimviii]

Latvalas father,must be happy today
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3X8s5IQAANkgP.jpg

[makinen_fan]

Henning wins a stage?!

This same show stage was won by Prokop in S2000 car three years back so I would take it easy ;)

Yes but back then (2010) everyone had serious trouble with their tires.
Although I agree, it does not feel a real stage win with this kind of stage

[andyone]

Off top, how to adjust wrc radio volume? Is it only for me it's so quiet?
Try WRC app. It's more loud.
What wrc app is there? Link please

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

[Moriarty]

Off top, how to adjust wrc radio volume? Is it only for me it's so quiet?
Try WRC app. It's more loud.
What wrc app is there? Link please

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february ... 2-12-.html (http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february-2014/wrc-app/page/1014--12-12-.html)

[dimviii]

start of stage 12 completely gravel.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3fR6IIYAA3RmL.jpg

[mrakili]

I don`t know how the conditions are, but is there a posibility that cars running in the front will on the second pass have an advantage? I see it is plus degrees and there is a lot of mud. Can anyone who knows the conditions better confirm my guess?

[Kalm]

thats bad, its going to be a hard time for the tyres...


OT: meanwhile in france, from Loeb`s facebook :p https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1689575_787361437944628_1626207068_n.jpg

[sindroms]

start of stage 12 completely gravel.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3fR6IIYAA3RmL.jpg

In 2008 Horssjon stage was canncelled in conditions like this...

[Viking]

Leg 2 first loop of stages

Latvala
Mikkelsen +8,0
Østberg +16.3
Hirvonen +23.6
Hanninen +39.4
Tänak +40.3

[KKS]

Grondal didn't start at SS11? Shame :(

[dimviii]

Kristian Sohlberg ?@Krisse_Sohlberg 33 ?????
This rock ended our rally, didnt see it after a crest. Was online:(! Very disapointed!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3gBe4IYAA5jiR.jpg

[Viking]

Grondal didn't start at SS11? Shame :(

Engine, retired...

[Rallyper]

start of stage 12 completely gravel.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3fR6IIYAA3RmL.jpg

In 2008 Horssjon stage was canncelled in conditions like this...

I was there that year. Much worse conditions at that time. New built part of stage (about 2-3 k) had 20-30 cm tracks after first leg. Second was cancelled.

[jonkka]

Kristian Sohlberg ?@Krisse_Sohlberg 33 ?????
This rock ended our rally, didnt see it after a crest. Was online:(! Very disapointed!

I may be blind but I don't see a rock on the line?

[noel157]

Kristian Sohlberg ?@Krisse_Sohlberg 33 ?????
This rock ended our rally, didnt see it after a crest. Was online:(! Very disapointed!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3gBe4IYAA5jiR.jpg

Was going to ask what rock but I guess the one in the outside bank.

Edit - if that is a rock. Hi Jonkka.

[dimviii]

Kristian Sohlberg ?@Krisse_Sohlberg 33 ?????
This rock ended our rally, didnt see it after a crest. Was online:(! Very disapointed!

I may be blind but I don't see a rock on the line?

maybe this big one at right? :laugh: strange lines :laugh: except if he managed to move the rock :D

[noel157]

Kristian Sohlberg ?@Krisse_Sohlberg 33 ?????
This rock ended our rally, didnt see it after a crest. Was online:(! Very disapointed!

I may be blind but I don't see a rock on the line?

maybe this big one at right? :laugh: strange lines :laugh: except if he managed to move the rock :D

No marks or tyre tracks?

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ?@voiceofrally 7 ?????
End of SS12 and the weather is looking horrible! Rainy/sleety/snow! It wet, but nit cold. Maybe snowing on higher part of stage

i expect more rocks on road with these conditions. :vader:

[jonkka]

Cheers Noel

[dimviii]

(21 - Prokop Martin / Tománek Jan): Absolutely different than in the morning, completely gravel, a few snow parts must mostly gravel. You have to follow the lines, if you just a bit go off the lines, you have big problems.

[noel157]

Fright about Tanak? Mistake by Becs. Kubica stopped.

[Mihai]

Kristian Sohlberg ?@Krisse_Sohlberg 33 ?????
This rock ended our rally, didnt see it after a crest. Was online :(! Very disapointed!

I first thought that Sohlberg was online on some mobile device, so he didn't notice a rock that was hard-to-spot anyway. :laugh:

[dimviii]

Breen 9:20.4: "Clipped a stone in the narrow part...I was absolutely convinced we had a puncture...lost all confidence in the front right"

more stones...

[dimviii]

Henning -27 sec from morning..

[Mintexmemory]

Cue little girl in 'Poltergeist 2' ..."They're back" Watchout JML there's one with your name on it! (right next to all the Solberg one's in the unused shelf!)

[Viking]

Hirvonen slow first split..

[dimviii]

(3 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): Kubica just off on the left over a sharp crest in a snow bank. More like Rally GB, full gravel. We hit one massive rock, they are appearing and you can't see them.

Hanninen stopped,,

[er88]

Juho stopped ..... :confused: :(

[dimviii]

Tidemand 9:23.9: "Feeling really good now, but we have a puncture front right" Hänninen still stopped, Kubica moving well

[dimviii]

podium for Ogier? :D

[Mintexmemory]

Tidemand 9:23.9: "Feeling really good now, but we have a puncture front right" Hänninen still stopped, Kubica moving well
So it's turned out a good stage for Meeke! Ogier too (Dimi - nah SebO won't catch Meeke for 3rd ;)).

[dimviii]

Hirvonen on Hänninen - "he was in a snowbank, stopped in the snow" Hirvonen 9:19.8, but delayed he says by Kubica stopping

[Rallyper]

Tidemand 9:23.9: "Feeling really good now, but we have a puncture front right" Hänninen still stopped, Kubica moving well

Tidemand quoted he had puncture last seven km´s... Left front.

[dimviii]

Østberg on Kubica: "He pulled out in front of me on the stage" :disturb: 9:13.7 Kubica confirms he was stuck in a snowbank, but little more comment

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen again with moment :skull:

[Sukhoi]

i think Kubica car might be damaged, Pics please! (not sure due that mr. accent on rally radio :colour: )

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen again with moment :skull:

Mikkelsen 9:02.5: "Water temperature high...I have to get moving"

Hänninen has damaged front wheel

[dimviii]

i think Kubica car might be damaged, Pics please! (not sure due that mr. accent on rally radio :colour: )

4 beers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf31ILtIYAEswTx.jpg

[Doon]

Any live feeds for the Karlstad SS tonight? Please post :) Thanks

[dimviii]

2nd rally disaster for Hyundai......................................

[makinen_fan]

Mikkelsen SS12
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf32QnVIYAAZJSU.jpg

[KKS]

Lesjofors stage must be renamed to - Drama stage 1/2

[noel157]

2nd rally disaster for Hyundai......................................

Hmmm, but car seems to be good. We'll see how Atko goes in Mexico.

[dimviii]

Ogier now 1,53min from 6th position(Meeke) at this stage managed to gain 19,8 sec on him

[dimviii]

2nd rally disaster for Hyundai......................................

Hmmm, but car seems to be good. We'll see how Atko goes in Mexico.

yep car seems enough good,but no rally km so far is problem.

[makinen_fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf33R2PCAAAhQLQ.jpg

Hanninen: front right wheel out of shape

[Francis44]

2nd rally disaster for Hyundai......................................

Hmmm, but car seems to be good. We'll see how Atko goes in Mexico.

yep car seems enough good,but no rally km so far is problem.

Still I believe they can superrally tomorrow.

[uranium]

The wheel was broken due to off to snow? Don't think so

[Raini]

Neuville confirmed, he will be on track tomorrow.

[er88]

Credit to Al Rajhi, he's doing well :smokin:

[MikeD]

Off top, how to adjust wrc radio volume? Is it only for me it's so quiet?

I have also just downloaded the new WRC app for Andriod. I haven't got any sound either ... :( Any advice?

[noel157]

Off top, how to adjust wrc radio volume? Is it only for me it's so quiet?

I have also just downloaded the new WRC app for Andriod. I haven't got any sound either ... :( Any advice?

Buy an iPhone? :)

[makinen_fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf39eeUIgAAEk7J.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf39xA9IUAA-y3M.jpg

[noel157]

Who was I having a discussion with on RMC thread that Ogier was taking too many risks?

[stefanvv]

Who was I having a discussion with on RMC thread that Ogier was taking too many risks?
Unlike MC, he can't take many risks here to gain little more time, probably will go off again and lose much more. Conditions are difficult and all VW drivers are already very fast

[N.O.T]

2 out of 2 for Neuville... this is not going well.

[noel157]

2 out of 2 for Neuville... this is not going well.

Unfortunate. The WRC need Hyundai and need them to be successful.

[Leon]

I heard a rumor that Mr Nandan just posted on AFF ‘ s super rally thread :D

[PLuto]

Martin Prokop killed snowman on SS 13 :angryfire

[er88]

Prokop : I was almost off but I got back. I met a snow man with a beer bottle on his head and the snow man was in the middle of the road. :vader:

[N.O.T]

2 out of 2 for Neuville... this is not going well.

Unfortunate. The WRC need Hyundai and need them to be successful.

If Neuville continues like that the solution is quite easy for Hyundai... especially if the car is good.

[stefanvv]

I heard a rumor that Mr Nandan just posted on AFF ‘ s super rally thread :D
:D . SR should be quite safe for now, he doesn't need to worry, the miles will be there..... more or less

[Francis44]

[quote="N.O.T":3uydf13j]2 out of 2 for Neuville... this is not going well.

Unfortunate. The WRC need Hyundai and need them to be successful.

If Neuville continues like that the solution is quite easy for Hyundai... especially if the car is good.[/quote:3uydf13j]

I dont know anything about team managment but I think the lack of concrete objectivs in terms of results for Hyundai this season may be causing Neuville to just give it all and show his speed in the car, after all if they want km's it isn't really tragic if they superrally all the time, so Neuville may fill like giving it everything no matter what.

[Rallyper]

Mikko shows good pace, though not fastest.

[er88]

Mikko shows good pace, though not fastest.

Mikko showing good pace...Shock ;) :laugh:

[Mintexmemory]

Mikko shows good pace, though not fastest.

Mikko showing good pace...Shock ;) :laugh:


Not that good only a bit faster than the Snow Virgin!!

[jonkka]

What the hell, Ogier's 1st split is +7,5 and second split is faster than anybody. Timing system sucks...

[A.F.F.]

I heard a rumor that Mr Nandan just posted on AFF ‘ s super rally thread :D

or whateverthefuckitis.

[er88]

Mikko shows good pace, though not fastest.

Mikko showing good pace...Shock ;) :laugh:


Not that good only a bit faster than the Snow Virgin!!

Exactly!

[Mintexmemory]

I heard a rumor that Mr Nandan just posted on AFF ‘ s super rally thread :D

or whateverthefuckitis.

Oi....pack it in!!!

[stefanvv]

Whoa, what 2nd split for Ogier, if I believe to what wrc.com shows

[Nikey]

Mikko shows good pace, though not fastest.

Mikko showing good pace...Shock ;) :laugh:


Not that good only a bit faster than the Snow Virgin!!

Well, there was no snow on that stage :rolleyes:

[Mintexmemory]

Whoa, what 2nd split for Ogier, if I believe to what wrc.com shows
Yep look at the Stage time!! - Have VW issued orders to the 1-2 because if they start pushing each other it could all end in tears

[stefanvv]

Mikko shows good pace, though not fastest.

Mikko showing good pace...Shock ;) :laugh:
Comparing to Tanak, yes, I think this is Hirvonen's fight here

[Mintexmemory]

Not that good only a bit faster than the Snow Virgin!!

Well, there was no snow on that stage :rolleyes:

So 'Driving with snow tyres on gravel -Virgin' then. Still a completely new experience for KM

[stefanvv]

Whoa, what 2nd split for Ogier, if I believe to what wrc.com shows
Yep look at the Stage time!! - Have VW issued orders to the 1-2 because if they start pushing each other it could all end in tears
Hmmm, it makes sense, though their pace is blistering comparing all others. Looks like there is only VW competing here

[KKS]

DMacks on Keetoma car start to explode on this gravel stages, a huge lose of time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Juho.. :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf4KmTCCAAEl6Ep.jpg

[noel157]

Shame for Juho.. :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf4KmTCCAAEl6Ep.jpg

I may have missed it on RR or here but presume there was rock buried in the snow?

[jonkka]

Looks like it, wheel is tilted 90 degrees

[Viking]

Wonder if Maud Solberg will engage team orders in Henning/Pontus fight :)

[makinen_fan]

Kubica off:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ese72keL ... e=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ese72keL21o&feature=youtu.be)

[Sukhoi]

Kubica Off again!

Meeke should've get paid for updates about Kubica :D , Monte Carlo once.. Now twice already..

[Rallyper]

Or was it just material fatigue...?

[noel157]

Or was it just material fatigue...?

That's what I thought. Unless a big rock.

[jonkka]

Or was it just material fatigue...?

Could be in rougher rallies but halfway through Sweden? I think that Hyundai can do better than that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS14: Kris Meeke reports that Robert Kubica is off the road in a slow third gear corner and stuck in soft, wet snow..

Cant see Kubica finishing a WRC rally any time soon. :(

[stefanvv]

SS14: Kris Meeke reports that Robert Kubica is off the road in a slow third gear corner and stuck in soft, wet snow..

Cant see Kubica finishing a WRC rally any time soon. :(
His lines are just to wide for Sweden's snowbanks

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundai Motorsport ?- 'We are happy to confirm that @thierryneuville will restart tomorrow for the last day of Rally Sweden..'

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier 10s up at the last split on JML :eek:

[Kalm]

11.1 sec at the end :eek:

[stefanvv]

Probably Hannine also will continue tomorrow. I can't see mechanical reason for not starting

[COD]

Kubica off:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ese72keL ... e=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ese72keL21o&feature=youtu.be)

Not because of wide line, but wheels turned when landing when they should have pointed straight. He kept pedal to the metal toii the end, which is the right thing to do :bounce:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Result of JML's 'little moments' ... :rolleyes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf4T5t5IAAALRPR.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica's car seems ok despite off... just snow in the rad ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf4Vul9IcAEGwHN.jpg

[dimviii]

Result of JML's 'little moments' ... :rolleyes:


For Latvala this is really ''little moment'' :D

[dimviii]

Tidemand at previous stage
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1725538_10152016776028952_998877925_n.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

6 s lost by JML on the Sprint !

[dimviii]

Who was I having a discussion with on RMC thread that Ogier was taking too many risks?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/q83/s720x720/62380_10152200712353641_711848977_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

6 s lost by JML on the Sprint !
I'll make a wild guess - team tactics :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS15: JML - We lost a lot of time in there as the tyres are so bad, not a nice feeling to lose so much on a super...

[Moriarty]

Is there any photos of Hening Solber's car?

[wojo02]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWZ2Xd3thBw

[dimviii]

6 s lost by JML on the Sprint !
I'll make a wild guess - team tactics :D

tactics? no way! just Mikko found the way to be equal with Latvala,and Ogier managed to gain 0,5sec/km over Mikkelsen and Latvala.
orders? no way!! :D

[Andre Oliveira]

Is there any photos of Hening Solber's car?

http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info ... weden-2014 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=13892&d=485944&t=Rally-Sweden-2014)

[N.O.T]

6 s lost by JML on the Sprint !
I'll make a wild guess - team tactics :D

tactics? no way! just Mikko found the way to be equal with Latvala,and Ogier managed to gain 0,5sec/km over Mikkelsen and Latvala.
orders? no way!! :D

orders for what ? I do not think VW can do anything now apart from holding Mikkelsen back tomorrow if they are wise.

[stefanvv]

orders? no way!! :D
I know you'll admit that finally :D

[dimviii]

orders for what ? I do not think VW can do anything now apart from holding Mikkelsen back tomorrow if they are wise.

exactly,for holding their positions.

[N.O.T]

I think they have a lot more to lose if they allow the fight to go on... it is a good choice and everyone is happy.

[dimviii]

140 stage km more.How is the condition of tomorrow stages?

[Rallyper]

Mikko shows good pace, though not fastest.

Mikko showing good pace...Shock ;) :laugh:


Not that good only a bit faster than the Snow Virgin!!

BTW - who´s "Snow-virgin? Not Meeke I presume. Evans? Breen? MAybe you mean Kubica?

Ahhhh, they never drove on snow before? Shame on me.

[dimviii]

I think they have a lot more to lose if they allow the fight to go on... it is a good choice and everyone is happy.
thats right.Lets see if Ostberg will push tomorrow.He can t be relaxed with Mikko 18sec behind.

[RS]

Is Yazeed Al Rajhi actually good or is the level in WRC2 just really low?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Is there any photos of Hening Solber's car?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfzYm9GIIAAuz-M.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf4Yk_nIgAA3oqG.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf3p6luCEAAd5U_.jpg

[dimviii]

Neuville : its part of development :D
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february ... 2-12-.html (http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february-2014/sweden-neuville/page/1027--12-12-.html)

[dimviii]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3742/12362578384_423e2f0bd9_c.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrall ... 362578384/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/with/12362578384/)

[dimviii]

Ogiers off incar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pntDLajJg5k

[PLuto]

Is Yazeed Al Rajhi actually good or is the level in WRC2 just really low?

Yazeed is not bad. I remember him last year on test event before FInland - Rally Estonia, where he was 13th overall (http://rally-base.com/2013/auto24-rally-estonia-2013/). And it was good test, on Rally Estonia he was 12th overall (http://rally-base.com/2013/neste-oil-rally-finland-2013/) :)

[stefanvv]

Ogiers off incar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pntDLajJg5k
Nasty off, good there was spectators to return his car on the road. Lucky

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen high speed at snowbank, inside this video
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february ... 2-12-.html (http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february-2014/friday-midday-sweden/page/1026--12-12-.html)

[COD]

I must say, Kruuda has impressed me with his speed. Not just on this rally, but in Arctic rally and the last Finnish Championship event of 2013

[bluuford]

Overnight heavy snow and wet snow. Morning, light wet snow and light rain, then mostly humid and 0..+2.. difficult conditions.. wet snow everywhere, ready to suck cars into cold and wet bed .-P

[Kalm]

I must say, Kruuda has impressed me with his speed. Not just on this rally, but in Arctic rally and the last Finnish Championship event of 2013

too bad he had that driveshaft problem yesterday, otherwise Yazeed would had some competition , especially now when its clear that Dmacks on Ketomaa cars isnt holding up in the gravel...

[Dimitry]

Som impressions from Rally Sweden

http://www.expressen.se/motor/rally-swe ... olkfesten/ (http://www.expressen.se/motor/rally-sweden-har-ar-bilderna-fran-folkfesten/)

[wrc45]

I must say, Kruuda has impressed me with his speed. Not just on this rally, but in Arctic rally and the last Finnish Championship event of 2013

too bad he had that driveshaft problem yesterday, otherwise Yazeed would had some competition , especially now when its clear that Dmacks on Ketomaa cars isnt holding up in the gravel...
Tomorrow it will be interesting with Ketomaas tyres.

[stefanvv]

VW drivers reflecting on this morning loop:

"Sébastien Ogier is a man who speaks frankly, even about his own mistakes. “It was on a relatively slow section, perhaps that’s what caused me to lose concentration for a split second,” summarised the Frenchman, referring to the moment on special stage 8 when he waved goodbye to any chances of a second victory at the Rally Sweden. The rear of the #1 Polo R WRC hit a wall of snow, causing it to skid before finally ending up with its nose in the snow. “Fortunately there was a large group of fans in this area, who pushed us back onto the track. Without them, our rally would have been over. I’d like to extend my gratitude to those fans.”


Despite this, Ogier and co-driver Julien Ingrassia lost roughly four and a half minutes and were thirteenth in the interim classification at the break for lunch on Friday. As such, the duo now has just one thing left to fight for: “The three bonus points awarded for victory on the Power Stage on Saturday.”


This leaves two Volkswagen works drivers fighting for overall victory in the second round of the 2014 WRC season. Jari-Matti Latvala (Polo R WRC #2) is marginally ahead of Andreas Mikkelsen (Polo R WRC #9). “The ruts are getting deeper,” says Latvala, describing the effects that the temperatures, which have increased yet again, and the rain are having on the tracks. “As long as you stay on the track, the grip level is very high. But as soon as you deviate even slightly, the traction reduces drastically. This causes the rear to swerve suddenly.”


Given the worsening track conditions, Andreas Mikkelsen is resting his studded tyres. “For each of the remaining tyre changes, I now have four brand new tyres at my disposal. I’m ready to go head-to-head with Jari-Matti.”
However, Mikkelsen is not about to be reckless while doing battle with his Finnish team-mate. “My aim is to get on the podium. If Jari-Matti can increase his speed again, I’m not going to give 110 percent trying to keep up with him.”"

[dimviii]

http://www.citroenracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/140206_024_MEEKE-300x200.jpg
http://www.citroenracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/140206_025_ALQASSIMI-300x200.jpg
http://www.citroenracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/140206_030_OSTBERG-300x200.jpg

large sizes here
http://www.citroenracing.com/2014/photo ... -sweden-4/ (http://www.citroenracing.com/2014/photos/photos-wrc/7398/rally-sweden-4/)

[Negaiss]

So, any live stream for Karlstad SSS ???

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVcQqvKJgDY

[dimviii]

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2806/12367303305_6775e0c533_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/12367299805_d4e545c304_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7361/12367302615_8bf62ca137_c.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_02_2014/post-4664-0-47256900-1391798046.png

[dimviii]

new exhaust for fiestas
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5545/12368305094_992b7b175f_c.jpg

[stefanvv]

:D :D Curious to see the engine :D :D

[Hasselhoax]

The stone that ended Kristian Sohlbergs rally (I myself couldn't see it on the earlier posted photo):

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/q72/s720x720/1239754_10151853274481193_1423190075_n.jpg

Man am I looking forward for tomorrow...

(photo courtesy of Kristan Sohlbergs fanpage on FB)

[dimviii]

now we can understand which rock was.Thanks

[Munkvy]

Given the worsening track conditions, Andreas Mikkelsen is resting his studded tyres. “For each of the remaining tyre changes, I now have four brand new tyres at my disposal. I’m ready to go head-to-head with Jari-Matti.”
However, Mikkelsen is not about to be reckless while doing battle with his Finnish team-mate. “My aim is to get on the podium. If Jari-Matti can increase his speed again, I’m not going to give 110 percent trying to keep up with him.”"
That sure sounds like team orders... If he wants to win his first ever WRC event, he needs to go harder, not slower...

[dimviii]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/s720x720/1662265_10151965307230678_1173617067_n.png
http://images.wrc.com/News/1969_sweden-vw-ogier-2014_654_592x333.jpg?
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february ... 2-12-.html (http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/february-2014/ogier-im-stupid/page/1028--12-12-.html)

[dimviii]

Linda Martins ?@LindaMartins13 13 ?????
And it's not snowing a little bit! Maybe 30 cm of snow tomorrow in the stages

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf5GuyCIIAAHkdP.jpg

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ?@voiceofrally 14 ???.
My goodness me, never seen snow like it - it's CHUCKING it down in Karlstad!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf5HTE4IgAEUHsq.jpg


bluuford conditions worst for tomorrow?

[bluuford]

Like I told, it should end in the morning (big snow ends in the night), just before the stages. Little snowfall during the morning,later temperature increases and it will be pretty wet.

[BleAivano]

Its the same snow weather that hit us while driving home. When we stopped for a couple of hot dogs at
the gas station in Hällefors it was sort of a semi rain/snow thing that fell from the skies but when the
started driving again and left Hällefors heading south towards Nora and Örebro and onwards, the snowing
was really really intense between Hällefors and maybe 30km north of Örebro.

Anyway I was at Skärskön (spectator area 1 at Fredriksberg stage) for both loops.
It was a very good place with many good curve combinations I also did some filming at it
I'll see if I can get it upped tomorrow.

Also if you want to go to this spectator area be aware that it can be tricky fining the entrance road (unmarked)
and the road is maybe 5-6-7km long narrow forest road. It was poorly ploughed and it had some quite
steep slopes so you'll need a AWD /4WD car to get to this stage via this road.

Also the so called "organized parking space" was just a small lot with just enough room for 7.8 carsö

[KKS]

VW drivers reflecting on this morning loop:

"Sébastien Ogier is a man who speaks frankly, even about his own mistakes. “It was on a relatively slow section, perhaps that’s what caused me to lose concentration for a split second,”

U lose concentration? You nearly gone off plenty off times and just lucky not crashed. And it's your fortune lose concentration for a split second and couldn't save you.

[stefanvv]

Given the worsening track conditions, Andreas Mikkelsen is resting his studded tyres. “For each of the remaining tyre changes, I now have four brand new tyres at my disposal. I’m ready to go head-to-head with Jari-Matti.”
However, Mikkelsen is not about to be reckless while doing battle with his Finnish team-mate. “My aim is to get on the podium. If Jari-Matti can increase his speed again, I’m not going to give 110 percent trying to keep up with him.”"
That sure sounds like team orders... If he wants to win his first ever WRC event, he needs to go harder, not slower...
I'm not aiming another pointless discussion for VW team orders, but if I understand right he is driving enough to get 2nd place at this Latvala pace. Anything more would be stupid in this Rally.

[dimviii]

nice photos from Timo Anis
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php? ... otograf=79 (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=13892&fotograf=79)


last day start list
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/u ... y-2014.pdf (http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Start-List-for-Section-7-Saturday-8th-February-2014.pdf)

[PLuto]

Start list into third leg - http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-sweden ... TypeId=417 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-sweden-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=417)

[KKS]

Like I told, it should end in the morning (big snow ends in the night), just before the stages. Little snowfall during the morning,later temperature increases and it will be pretty wet.
Big question is will that snow be on ground, or just melt. Temperature on ground +1 +2 at night?

[ironseb]

Starlist for tomorrow : http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Start-List-for-Section-7-Saturday-8th-February-2014.pdf

[gorganl2000]

so far rally sweden has been great to follow. this rally is just dropping surprise after surprise so it hard to predict what will happen at any one point which makes it exciting. i can't say i'm surprised that hyundia is having "teething" issues in these 2 rallies, i kind of expected it as its a relatively new car. But so far it think the car has potential and can be competitive.

i think the snow virgins are learning and holding their own too- - meeke and evans are keeping it on the road, RK has been off but just minor mistakes so that's ok in the circumstances

i'm a bit surprised that mikko and mads aren't more competitive on this surface

based on RMC and sweden, i'd say VW is a very very strong car, and fast too

[wurc]

this is onboard from kubica's first stop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPohvtGZNoI

here's a movie from his second stop
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=80 ... =2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=805257856158135&set=vb.100000217838114&type=2&theater)
the car was saved due to about a dozen of polish spectators

and one story about it, not nice behaviour from norwegian spectators...
story from a guy who was pulling out the kubica's car,

we heard a car stopped about half a kilometer away from us, we started running to this place, we noticed kubica's car and his co-driver desparately trying to do sth and two norwegian spectators standing next to him and doing pictures of him!
once we approached the car, started to dig it out, after some time we managed, but it was hard

[BleAivano]

Like I told, it should end in the morning (big snow ends in the night), just before the stages. Little snowfall during the morning,later temperature increases and it will be pretty wet.
Big question is will that snow be on ground, or just melt. Temperature on ground +1 +2 at night?

Snow will stay even if the temperature is above 0 if the snowing is intensive enough and
continues long enough.

[makinen_fan]

Mads a bit out of control:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152018698578893

[makinen_fan]

I just noticed the weird thing they introduced this year with starting order. All P1 and P2 drivers start in reverse order according to classification of last stage but the Superrally guys get the advantage of running after the leader... This is just nuts!!!
One of the good things of Superrally was that they can clean the road a bit for the crews that run without retiring

[N.O.T]

I just noticed the weird thing they introduced this year with starting order. All P1 and P2 drivers start in reverse order according to classification of last stage but the Superrally guys get the advantage of running after the leader... This is just nuts!!!
One of the good things of Superrally was that they can clean the road a bit for the crews that run without retiring

it doesn't make big difference with the current entry lists.... guys below top ten are just tourists in the majority of the events.

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSMJoB25xV8

[makinen_fan]

it doesn't make big different with the current entry lists.... guys below top ten are just tourists in the majority of the events.

Totally agree with you, but in rallies with less P1,P2 entries (eg Australia Mexico) and more retirements it can influence things a little bit

[dimviii]

photos from Jafry

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1230

[Jafry]

Photos from DAY2: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1230

[bluuford]

Like I told, it should end in the morning (big snow ends in the night), just before the stages. Little snowfall during the morning,later temperature increases and it will be pretty wet.
Big question is will that snow be on ground, or just melt. Temperature on ground +1 +2 at night?

Snow will stay even if the temperature is above 0 if the snowing is intensive enough and
continues long enough.
Correct! That snow will not dissapear so soon. A few + degrees make it verysoft, slushy and snowalls will be traps..as they are going to suck you in if you are out of line. So, I am expecting very tricky conditions tomorrow and a lot sweeping for first cars.. difficult for Ogier to take 3 points on powerstage and show good times.

[Co-driven]

I don't know if it was already mentioned on this thread before, but Hirvonen again using rims that looks like the Focus WRC rims. I think it was on Wales that the same happened. Does anybody know if there's any particular reason for that?

[stefanvv]

I don't know if it was already mentioned on this thread before, but Hirvonen again using rims that looks like the Focus WRC rims. I think it was on Wales that the same happened. Does anybody know if there's any particular reason for that?
I have the feeling Wilson puts on the cars whatever is left in the garage unused ;)

[dimviii]

.. difficult for Ogier to take 3 points on powerstage and show good times.

why difficult for Ogier bluuford? Power stage Varmullsasen will be run 2 times,power stage is second time,will not be cleared from slush?
Also tomorrow starts 6th on the road,will not be clean enough you predict?

[dimviii]

I don't know if it was already mentioned on this thread before, but Hirvonen again using rims that looks like the Focus WRC rims. I think it was on Wales that the same happened. Does anybody know if there's any particular reason for that?

Kubica uses same rims at Sweden.Probably have stock of them new/or at good condition.

[Rallyper]

Mads a bit out of control:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152018698578893

So nice!! Pedal to the metal!!! :cool: :cool:

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf5XZziIMAAjzym.jpg
"Saw these guys out in the stages today, can't help thinking that they've come to the wrong rally!" ©Julian Porter

[bluuford]

.. difficult for Ogier to take 3 points on powerstage and show good times.

why difficult for Ogier bluuford? Power stage Varmullsasen will be run 2 times,power stage is second time,will not be cleared from slush?
Also tomorrow starts 6th on the road,will not be clean enough you predict?

Yes, there is not much snowfall expected during tomorrow day (compared to tonight), but I expect cars from the lower classes to drag some slush back on the ideal line.. and the cars in front of Ogier... seems that they are not using ideal line..at least their times are not reflecting this.

[Hasselhoax]

You wrote :
But do they mention what kind of parking? Road side parking or a special area made for parking?


It's sometimes a kind of courtyard, or an existing parking lot, or a flat meadow. And you have to pay 50 SEK. I think they would never dare to ask for 50 SEK for parking on a road side...

They dare, trust me..

I say one thing: Rally Finland ;)

Okay, two things. Alwas pay with 1 SEK coins. I always keep a bag of 10 cent/5 cent/1 cent coins in Finland. Then you tell the parking gods in vests that:
- It's 5 euro you can count it yourself
(PG): I believe you...

Then you at least know that they will do some work...

[dimviii]

.. difficult for Ogier to take 3 points on powerstage and show good times.

why difficult for Ogier bluuford? Power stage Varmullsasen will be run 2 times,power stage is second time,will not be cleared from slush?
Also tomorrow starts 6th on the road,will not be clean enough you predict?

Yes, there is not much snowfall expected during tomorrow day (compared to tonight), but I expect cars from the lower classes to drag some slush back on the ideal line.. and the cars in front of Ogier... seems that they are not using ideal line..at least their times are not reflecting this.
tnx bluuford.

[dimviii]

:skull: :skull:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8UOkjH ... ata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8UOkjHK_ws&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
:skull: :skull:

moment when Mads passed Kubica at snowbank.......

[stefanvv]

Hyundai:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8NSnAU5PmQ

[Gard]

:skull: :skull:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8UOkjH ... ata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8UOkjHK_ws&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
:skull: :skull:

moment when Mads passed Kubica at snowbank.......

ouch... no wonder Mads was a bit shaky at the end

[Francis44]

:skull: :skull:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8UOkjH ... ata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8UOkjHK_ws&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
:skull: :skull:

moment when Mads passed Kubica at snowbank.......

That's some good bobing and weaving skills from the spectator there.

Anyway dimviii it is nice that you stopped asking for beers for your fine contributions to the thread because I suspect if one day
everyone decides to give you your rightfully given beers you may well end up with a the biggest hangover ever :D.

[dimviii]

:skull: :skull:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8UOkjH ... ata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8UOkjHK_ws&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
:skull: :skull:

moment when Mads passed Kubica at snowbank.......

ouch... no wonder Mads was a bit shaky at the end

probably Kubicas engine was working,thats why they heard Mads when he was so close.God of rally was awake today.

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkL3d-C70E

[Hasselhoax]

Hyundai:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8NSnAU5PmQ

Thanks stefan. I asked for the info regarding Juhos retirement in the i20 thread. This gave me the answers.

[stefanvv]

These are just child problems for Hyundai.

[Hasselhoax]

These are just child problems for Hyundai.

I like to think so too. As someone mentioned: go for the VW way with tank suspension.

[stefanvv]

Yes, this will happen with try-and-error. Nobody's perfect when they start competing in Rally

BTW: I just watched Neuville's off on MotorsTV. It was much more soft than Hannine's. Hyunday really need to do something about it

[Hasselhoax]

It can't go nowhere but up from here

[dimviii]

from video you cant judge how strong is the impact.Steering wheel can collapse if something like this broke.Diameter about 15mm...
http://www.nikolaidistractors.gr/prd_images/14QURKM0I.jpg

about Hyundai retirements i dont see teething problems,i see driving errors.

[dimviii]

Anyway dimviii it is nice that you stopped asking for beers for your fine contributions to the thread because I suspect if one day
everyone decides to give you your rightfully given beers you may well end up with a the biggest hangover ever :D.

:D