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hari
6th November 2012, 19:39
Only 58 days left to start into the season 2013 and a new era in ERC.

http://www.ir7.at/j131.jpg


Some useful links:

Website:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at (http://www.jaennerrallye.at/)

Regulations:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/uploads/media/Veranstaltungsausschreibung2013_en.pdf

Rallye Guide:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/en/rallye-guide.html

Itinerary:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/uploads/media/ANHANG_I.I_Zeitplan_01.pdf

Accomodation:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/en/driver/accomodation.html

Fiat-131-Abarth
6th November 2012, 21:17
The itinerary is only slightly different from the 2012 edition. The St. Oswald stage is completly new. This stage hasn´t been used in the last ten years. I think that this stage is driven on an altitude between 800 and 900 m above sea level.

The Pregarten stage is also different from last year. The start isn´t located in the center of Pregarten any more. It´s started in Selker, where they started the last time in 2007. The route of the stage is similiar to the 2007 edition until Pregartsdorf. From Pregartsdorf to the finish it´s the same than 2012.

I´m really looking forward to the rally. Hope we´ll have some snow and a nice entry list.

Fiat-131-Abarth
22nd November 2012, 13:11
According to an article on rallye.at Vaclav Pech has already entered the rally with the Mini and F.Staber from the organisation said, that "many international top teams" have intented their interest to come to the Jänner Rallye.

hari
29th November 2012, 12:05
The closing date for entries has been rescheduled from December 9th to December 15th 2012.

http://www.ir7.at/content/orm_erc_jaenner_rallye_2013_neuer_nennschluss.php

PLuto
29th November 2012, 14:31
Jänner Rallye has every year one big problem - it is too early. For everybody, but mainly for the teams...

GL Media Pro
29th November 2012, 17:02
Ready for ERC 2013.... Hotels are booking....

WRC1
29th November 2012, 18:13
Jänner Rallye has every year one big problem - it is too early. For everybody, but mainly for the teams....

true, but a jänner rallye in march makes no sense :)

PLuto
29th November 2012, 18:45
I think one or two weeks later should be enough...

Fiat-131-Abarth
29th November 2012, 20:41
I think one or two weeks later should be enough...

I think that this is hardly possible. As known, the service park is also located on Freistadt´s bus terminal. In Freistadt are many schools and most pupils reach their school by bus. One week later the Cristmas Holidays are already finished in Austria and there is no space in Freistadt where the busses could stop else properly.
An other problem is, that the most important downhill races of the alpine ski worldcup (Wengen and Kitzbühel) take place in the two weeks after the rally. Against this events the Jänner Rallye would get absolutly no publicity in Austria. Espacially the Kitzbühel ski race is by far the most important sport event in Austria.

WRC1
29th November 2012, 20:46
big problem is the people wich works for the rally, you know there are hundrets of people involved, with this date beginning of the year, everybody in austria has christmas holiday....if they change the date for the race 2-3 weeks later then there would be a lot of people missing because of theire jobs....

and for spectators it is also better because of holiday!

Mirek
29th November 2012, 21:41
For Austrian or German spectators yes... we don't have holidays in January :(

WRC1
30th November 2012, 07:42
For Austrian or German spectators yes... we don't have holidays in January :(

oh! i did not know!

but than it makes (for spectators from CZ) no difference if the rallye is held in the beginning or in middle of jannuary.

liposh
30th November 2012, 08:24
oh! i did not know!

but than it makes (for spectators from CZ) no difference if the rallye is held in the beginning or in middle of jannuary.

It is big difference. After celebrating the New Year´s eve our heads hurts for many and many days :D

Mirek
30th November 2012, 08:27
There is a difference in fact. Most of us have holidays at the end of December and starting a new working year with taking days off in first week isn't the easiest thing for many people. Anyway I won't come again because for me this year it's even worse cause I start with new employer :)

stefanvv
30th November 2012, 08:38
It is big difference. After celebrating the New Year´s eve our heads hurts for many and many days :D

That is perfect for Janner :D :D

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2012, 13:46
Is it sure the presence of Rok Turk :confused:
Seems the first 208 R2s won't be delivered before sart march 2013... :mark:

GL Media Pro
2nd December 2012, 21:19
Our HD Video of 2012 edition: FIA ERC Web Channel TV by Ellegy (http://erc.ellegy.tv/index.php?gara=182&s1=8)

https://vimeo.com/34970544

PLuto
2nd December 2012, 23:37
Is it sure the presence of Rok Turk :confused:
Seems the first 208 R2s won't be delivered before sart march 2013... :mark:

For sure 208 R2 will not be ready for him in time...

RS
3rd December 2012, 09:34
Can we expect Kopecky on Janner given that he turned up and won last year?

WRC1
3rd December 2012, 09:50
Can we expect Kopecky on Janner given that he turned up and won last year?

....yes we can :)

given the fact that Skoda Motorsport announced that he (kopecky) will do ERC in 2013 for them (Skoda) it is almost sure that they will be at first round of ERC....AND Cz Championship

Mirek
3rd December 2012, 09:54
Škoda will not do Czech championship and only very limited ERC starts as far as I understand that. But I would also expect him in Freistadt ;)

mousti
3rd December 2012, 10:43
So Kopecky will not drive so much this year, instead of that testing alot with the R5 then

tommeke_B
3rd December 2012, 11:04
Next year mousti... We're still living in the year 2012, don't get too excited :D

dupanton
3rd December 2012, 11:19
Next year mousti... We're still living in the year 2012, don't get too excited :D

You can't deny that he wound drive very much any more this year :p

mousti
3rd December 2012, 14:45
Probably some after effects of my bday party last weekend :D

PLuto
3rd December 2012, 15:42
I have also problems with changing years, especially during last weeks I am still mixing 2012, 2013, 2014 and last year, this year, next year...

But to be back on topic - Jan will start in Janner, this is sure. He will do very limited number of starts in Czech (I expect Janner, Bohemia and Barum) and some events in ERC (not sure which ones).

Fiat-131-Abarth
3rd December 2012, 16:44
I have also problems with changing years, especially during last weeks I am still mixing 2012, 2013, 2014 and last year, this year, next year...

But to be back on topic - Jan will start in Janner, this is sure. He will do very limited number of starts in Czech (I expect Janner, Bohemia and Barum) and some events in ERC (not sure which ones).

Good news that Kopecky will start.

As the rally starts in one month, I think we should start to list the crews that will enter the rally with a high possibility. So please don´t enter names in this list if the start of this driver/crew at the Jänner Rallye is f.e. only mentioned (as rumour) on a french forum.

Drivers with S 2000 cars (including RRC)
Kopecky - Fabia
Baumschlager - Fabia
Pech - Mini
Tarabus - Skoda

Drivers in class 3 or with R4
Harrach - Evo 9 R4
Saibel - Evo 10 R4
Orsak (?) - Evo 9

By the way we had the first real snow of the season in the rally region this morning.

RS
3rd December 2012, 19:58
But to be back on topic - Jan will start in Janner, this is sure. He will do very limited number of starts in Czech (I expect Janner, Bohemia and Barum) and some events in ERC (not sure which ones).

I hope he will do 4 events in each half of the season so he can compete for the title and I would definitely expect him on Janner, Ypres, Corsica, Sanremo (if it happens) and Barum. So only three more to fill the gap :)

vino_93
3rd December 2012, 20:26
I'm studying a travel to austria. Where's the best place to sleep ? Is Linz too far to go on stages ? Or Rozmbreck or other czech cities ?

PLuto
3rd December 2012, 21:02
I'm studying a travel to austria. Where's the best place to sleep ? Is Linz too far to go on stages ? Or Rozmbreck or other czech cities ?

Most of czech fans sleeps on czech side of border :)

tommeke_B
3rd December 2012, 21:05
But if you're from France and you want to stay in CZ, you need to change your money... ;)

PLuto
3rd December 2012, 21:06
But if you're from France and you want to stay in CZ, you need to change your money... ;)

I think that in Rozmberk area you dont need czech money, euro is enough...

Fiat-131-Abarth
3rd December 2012, 21:29
I'm studying a travel to austria. Where's the best place to sleep ? Is Linz too far to go on stages ? Or Rozmbreck or other czech cities ?

I think you have quite a long journey from Rozmberk to the morning stages. Especially if you want to go to the Unterweißenbach or Königswiesen stage on Saturday morning, where the chances of snow stages are very good. I can recommend everybody who is looking for a room - also for really cheap ones - the website Mühlviertler Alm (http://www.muehlviertleralm.at) . There you find places to sleep in the region of Pierbach, Liebenau, Unterweißenbach or Königswiesen. From there you have only some kms to go to the stages.

Jarek Z
3rd December 2012, 21:37
Happy birthday Mousti! :)

Mirek
3rd December 2012, 21:39
Yes, to sleep in CZ is quite nonsense. I think that even for Czech fans it's now just a tradition and nothing else. I would sure stay in Austria if I went to the rally.

vino_93
4th December 2012, 10:30
thx ! And another question : is it easy to go on snow stages ? Do you have some advices to go on these stages ?

Fri
4th December 2012, 20:34
Possible entry: Frigyes TURÁN
He will test an R4 Subaru on this weekend, Mikulas Rally

Mirek
4th December 2012, 20:40
Only for Jänner or ERC?

Adler
4th December 2012, 20:43
thx ! And another question : is it easy to go on snow stages ? Do you have some advices to go on these stages ?
If you are able to read road maps it´s easy to find nice spectator points according the rallye guide, regarding snow: it´s much too early to speculate about where or if there will be any snow, of course in higher altitude the chance is a little higher

WRC1
4th December 2012, 21:28
Possible entry: Frigyes TURÁN
He will test an R4 Subaru on this weekend, Mikulas Rally

great news! any chance frici will come with fiesta s2000??

Fri
5th December 2012, 09:31
I think he will drive the Fiesta (from Petter) on Jaenner Rally and he wants to do more ERC events next year

PLuto
5th December 2012, 11:48
According last info PSE is not planning to attend Janner.

had_zachau
5th December 2012, 13:06
Martin Hudec will attend with EVO IX.

vino_93
5th December 2012, 13:31
If you are able to read road maps it´s easy to find nice spectator points according the rallye guide, regarding snow: it´s much too early to speculate about where or if there will be any snow, of course in higher altitude the chance is a little higher
of I know read road maps. But I don't know if it's difficult to access stages due to snow.

Fiat-131-Abarth
5th December 2012, 13:49
of I know read road maps. But I don't know if it's difficult to access stages due to snow.

If you have winter tyres, which are mandatory in Austria between November and April, the access to the stages due snow should be now problem, even if there is lots of snow. Even in 2006 when we had around 1 meter of fresh snow the days before the rally the access to the stages was no problem.

Fiat-131-Abarth
7th December 2012, 13:49
Martin Fischerlehner, a local driver who was leading the rally on the first leg in 2011 in an Evo V, will be present with an Evo IX from KIT Racing.

Adler
7th December 2012, 20:51
Martin Fischerlehner, a local driver who was leading the rally on the first leg in 2011 in an Evo V, will be present with an Evo IX from KIT Racing.
for those who don´t know history of jännerrallye too well, you should mention that Gr. H cars usually have a big advantage due to late starting positions, but Fischi is for sure very fast for his little rallye experience, nice to see him in a modern car :)

Fri
10th December 2012, 08:54
Turán will drive Impreza R4

WRC1
10th December 2012, 17:40
Turán will drive Impreza R4

s2000 would be better, but impreza is better than nothing! looking forward to meet Frici ;)

mousti
10th December 2012, 18:08
Has he a program already, will he do some sort of ERC program?

Adler
12th December 2012, 10:59
Rallye-ÖM: Jänner Rallye, 03.-05. Jänner 2013 (http://www.rallye-oem.at/site/jaenner_rallye_2013_nennliste_waechst.php)

So according latest press releases respectively forum infos so far confirmed:

S2000:
Kopecky, Baumschlager, Tarabus (Fabia)
Valousek (207)
Pech (Mini)

R4/N4
Harrach, Saibel, Orsak, Hudec, Gassner Sr., Glachs, Fischerlehner, Haneder (Evo IX, X)
Turan (Impreza)

2WD
Neubauer (Swift S1600)
Danzinger (Clio R3)

drift heros :)
Glisic (M3)
Klausner (Quattro)

please feel free to extend the list if you have additional infos...entry list will be published at Dec 18th.

Mirek
12th December 2012, 13:16
Valoušek in 207? I would be surprised...

Adler
12th December 2012, 13:21
Valoušek in 207? I would be surprised...
Press releases doesn´t allways say the truth of course....so what´s your guess/knowledge, Mirek?

Mirek
12th December 2012, 13:40
They officially claimed their cooperation with Peugeot CZ ended (because Peugeot importers are not allowed to put money in 207 projects but only 208). But of course it can be private deal with Tagai or other team.

Mirek
13th December 2012, 16:15
So Valoušek confirmed he will start with 207 S2000 but without Peugeot CZ support.

Tom206wrc
14th December 2012, 19:57
They officially claimed their cooperation with Peugeot CZ ended (because Peugeot importers are not allowed to put money in 207 projects but only 208)...


Does that mean no 208 R2 cup in CZ in 2013 :confused:

Mirek
14th December 2012, 20:01
I haven't said anything like that, please read carefully. But frankly I don't see any sign of such cup here. As You might know rallying here is going through very difficult times and I think that we will be happy if no MMČR event will be canceled for lack of crews...

By the way Tomáš Kostka ruled out start on Jänner because it's too early in the season.

Seppala
15th December 2012, 08:59
Please find the interactive stage maps, itinerary, elevation profiles and 3D flights of the Jännerrallye 2013 here:



Jännerrallye 2013 - stages in google maps (http://www.rally-maps.com/country/Austria/rally/232/Jännerrallye) [/*:m:9tekhc8d]
Jännerrallye 2013 - 3D stage tour (http://www.rally-maps.com/country/Austria/rally/423/Jännerrallye/3D-Tour) [/*:m:9tekhc8d]


http://www.rally-maps.com/img/Jaennerrallye-2013-map.jpg (http://www.rally-maps.com/country/Austria/rally/232/Jännerrallye)

Sulland
15th December 2012, 09:11
Is there a FIA rule that you as an organizer can not publish a rolling entrylist?
by that I mean a list over entries as the come in, in random or class order. Just for competitors and spectators to follow?

tommeke_B
15th December 2012, 09:12
I don't think so Sulland. To give an example, in Ypres they always post regular updates starting some month before closing-date of entries. :)

Georgi
15th December 2012, 09:52
Although there is much rumors for the ERC 2013 to be powerful and modern championship there is not a single strong name to declare his participation yet. The entry deadline for Janner is today and there is still nothing new.

Mirek
15th December 2012, 11:50
Jänner is too early in the season. I guess most of the teams will join later in Latvia.

werner
15th December 2012, 12:35
If I am right, regulation says, from first 7 rounds, four counting, from last 6 rounds, also 4 results counting, together 8 of 13. So its easy to cut 1 or 2 (or 3) races in first half season when budget or Team is not ready.

Fiat-131-Abarth
15th December 2012, 15:02
Entries are closed now. Let's wait until Tuesday 6 pm to see the entry list.

PLuto
15th December 2012, 15:12
Does that mean no 208 R2 cup in CZ in 2013 :confused:

I have never heard about any plans of Peugeot cup in rallysport in Czech republic for last 20 years...

PLuto
15th December 2012, 15:13
Is there a FIA rule that you as an organizer can not publish a rolling entrylist?
by that I mean a list over entries as the come in, in random or class order. Just for competitors and spectators to follow?

There is no rule about it...

had_zachau
15th December 2012, 16:12
Jaryn Orsak crashed on the test

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72318_459778660745693_708327387_n.jpg

Mirek
15th December 2012, 16:41
He said the crash will not put his start in danger because he has three cars. He will just use another one in Jänner.

tommeke_B
15th December 2012, 16:56
So he will drive only first 2 events? :D

RS
15th December 2012, 19:23
Although there is much rumors for the ERC 2013 to be powerful and modern championship there is not a single strong name to declare his participation yet. The entry deadline for Janner is today and there is still nothing new.

This is one problem of the dropped scores system. Let's hope some or all of the rumours come true, if they do I think it will be much more interesting than the 2012 IRC season.

Rasantes
15th December 2012, 19:27
Bryan Bouffier will be present with a Peugeot 207 S2000.

Tom206wrc
15th December 2012, 19:32
Fantastic :bounce:

hari
15th December 2012, 22:10
Raimund Baumschlager started testing for Jänner Rallye with his Skoda Fabia S2000 in perfect conditions in Upper Austria.

Baumschlager was very satisfied after the test. He said that the improvement compared to last year is huge.

My Galeries:

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_brr_testfahrten_vor_jaenner_rallye_2013.php
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_brr_testfahrten_vor_jaenner_rallye_20 13.php

Video will follow...

http://www.ir7.at/jt1.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/jt2.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/jt3.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/jt4.jpg

tommeke_B
15th December 2012, 22:13
Nice photos! What an amazing scenary... :)

hari
16th December 2012, 13:29
Raimund Baumschlager testing - 5 Minutes video:


https://vimeo.com/55710410

Tom206wrc
16th December 2012, 13:32
Will François Delecour run Jänner too :confused:

JieM
16th December 2012, 17:01
Yes for Delecour ;)

Jan Cerny start with a S2000 ?

106 sport
16th December 2012, 18:02
Yes for Delecour ;)

Jan Cerny start with a S2000 ?

And you know if is Delecour going to participate in Rally Islas Canarias?

Thanks.

zajic
16th December 2012, 18:19
Jan Cerny start with a S2000 ?

Wait till tuesday 18:00, when list of entries will be publicated ;) Information about the car of Jan Černý has not been publicated yet, so I can´t tell.

Mirek
17th December 2012, 00:17
Černý sure wanted to start in Jänner. He already has ex-Hänninen Fabia S2000 according to circulating rumors.

mousti
17th December 2012, 00:23
Is he trying to do ERC, he has the potential to get somewhere on international level..

Mirek
17th December 2012, 00:28
He has always gone abroad if it was possible so I guess it's a matter of funds...

had_zachau
17th December 2012, 08:18
Vacla Pech tested


http://www.streetfire.net/video/vclav-pech-test-ped-jnner-rally_2414980.htm

Georgi
17th December 2012, 09:53
Černý sure wanted to start in Jänner. He already has ex-Hänninen Fabia S2000 according to circulating rumors.

Good news for Černý ! I hope it's true :)

had_zachau
17th December 2012, 11:19
S2000 for Cerny is confirmed. Jiri Sojka will attend with Suzuki Ignis Sport.

muratgunarslan
17th December 2012, 12:04
Extensive Eurosport coverage for Jännerrallye

Eurosport has confirmed its programming for the International Jännerrallye, round one of the new-look 2013 FIA European Rally Championship.

Available on the Eurosport platform and online through Eurosport Player, the broadcast schedule for the Austrian event, which takes place near the city of Linz from 3-5 January 2013, is as follows:

Friday 4 January 2013
Highlights Day One: 22:45hrs-23:15hrs (Eurosport2)
Highlights Day One: 24:00hrs-24:30hrs (Eurosport)

Saturday 5 January 2013
Highlights Day One: 07:00hrs-07:30hrs (Eurosport2)
Highlights Day One: 08:45hrs-0915hrs (Eurosport)
Rally Review: 23:30hrs-24:00hrs (Eurosport)

Sunday 6 January 2013
Rally Review: 07:00hrs-07:30hrs (Eurosport2)

Tuesday 8 January 2013
Inside ERC: 23:45hrs-24:15hrs (Eurosport)

All timings are CET and subject to change. Check local listings for further details.

Jeppe
17th December 2012, 13:05
Just wondering what makes Eurosport coverage this time so´extensive´?? For me, it looks like it´s just a normal 30 min shows and that´s it...

liposh
17th December 2012, 13:13
Just wondering what makes Eurosport coverage this time so´extensive´?? For me, it looks like it´s just a normal 30 min shows and that´s it...
The trick is that ERC has never been so extensively covered before. The IRC has been, but IRC is dead, so this is something Eurosport can show off :D Just a lot of words, lot of publicity, but nothing has changed in fact. It is little bit sad. All I wanted was broadcasting in normal times (evening or just 9 or 10 p.m. )

rallyfiend
17th December 2012, 13:25
Extensive Eurosport coverage for Jännerrallye

Eurosport has confirmed its programming for the International Jännerrallye, round one of the new-look 2013 FIA European Rally Championship.

Available on the Eurosport platform and online through Eurosport Player, the broadcast schedule for the Austrian event, which takes place near the city of Linz from 3-5 January 2013, is as follows:

Friday 4 January 2013
Highlights Day One: 22:45hrs-23:15hrs (Eurosport2)
Highlights Day One: 24:00hrs-24:30hrs (Eurosport)

Saturday 5 January 2013
Highlights Day One: 07:00hrs-07:30hrs (Eurosport2)
Highlights Day One: 08:45hrs-0915hrs (Eurosport)
Rally Review: 23:30hrs-24:00hrs (Eurosport)

Sunday 6 January 2013
Rally Review: 07:00hrs-07:30hrs (Eurosport2)

Tuesday 8 January 2013
Inside ERC: 23:45hrs-24:15hrs (Eurosport)

All timings are CET and subject to change. Check local listings for further details.

It's pretty average coverage for their first event. Not exactly a BANG opener. And pretty shabby scheduling. Very poor actually.

Guess Janner have paid a small fee to be part!

PLuto
17th December 2012, 13:26
Janner has one big problem - it is too early. For everybody...

RS
17th December 2012, 13:57
Janner has one big problem - it is too early. For everybody...

Is there some reason why? Could they make it end of January for example in the future?

bluuford
17th December 2012, 13:58
One more minus is the same date with Dakar that begins on the other side of the world. Eurosport has had a big role in this event.

pucky54
17th December 2012, 14:00
Is there some reason why? Could they make it end of January for example in the future?

There was already a long discussion about it earlier in this thread! :)

rallyfiend
17th December 2012, 15:48
One more minus is the same date with Dakar that begins on the other side of the world. Eurosport has had a big role in this event.

In broadcasting yes, but not in producing the coverage so much. In most cases they just add a voice to the coverage produced by ASO.

There's lots of hours in the day to put rally on TV, and not much other sport to get in the way!

JieM
17th December 2012, 17:13
And you know if is Delecour going to participate in Rally Islas Canarias?

Thanks.

For the moment, I don't know ...

106 sport
17th December 2012, 17:34
For the moment, I don't know ...

Thanks.

darkstar
17th December 2012, 19:19
i have info that delecour wont start at monte. so i think he quite shurely will do jänner.

dimviii
17th December 2012, 19:27
i have info that delecour wont start at monte. so i think he quite shurely will do jänner.

Delecour: EM aber keine Monte*:: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/int/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2012/12/17/delecour-em-aber-keine-monte/index.html)

Kielder
18th December 2012, 00:54
Vacla Pech tested


http://www.streetfire.net/video/vclav-pech-test-ped-jnner-rally_2414980.htm

... and some photos:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2rdc3o7.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2rog861.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/ivwznl.jpg

eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Vclav Pech test na Jnner Rallye 2012 Ivo Nesrovnal (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=7142&fotograf=43)

RS
18th December 2012, 09:00
At least Mini crews will now be eligible for points (and tv coverage)

PLuto
18th December 2012, 10:07
At least Mini crews will now be eligible for points (and tv coverage)

Why do you think?

bluuford
18th December 2012, 10:22
Why do you think?

Why not?

PLuto
18th December 2012, 10:23
Why not?

There is no regulation about it. This is ERC, not IRC...

PLuto
18th December 2012, 10:28
Top entries to Janner Rallye - www.AutoSport.CZ (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=54&p=65792#p65789)

had_zachau
18th December 2012, 10:41
Is it official?

RS
18th December 2012, 12:36
Not too bad start for 'new' ERC but I hope it will improve as the season goes on.

Tom206wrc
18th December 2012, 13:05
Interesting to see Jean-Michel Raoux in an S2000 there too ;)

106 sport
18th December 2012, 13:36
Interesting to see Jean-Michel Raoux in an S2000 there too ;)

Is he going to do ERC ?

PLuto
18th December 2012, 13:55
It looks like yes. I dont see any other reason of his name on entry list...

mousti
18th December 2012, 14:04
Looks to me he has saved money for 2013 to do another international rally program like he did last year with IRC.

EightGear
18th December 2012, 14:39
Stig Blomqvist in a Lancer EVO IX!

Bartek
18th December 2012, 14:41
Entry list looks very promising for new ERC. Hope that Kajto will show his speed on Austrian stage, he have talent, now he need to show it

PLuto
18th December 2012, 14:48
Stig Blomqvist in a Lancer EVO IX!

Stig is starting on Janner Rallye every year. There was a plan to start with VW Polo S2000, but he will start again with Evo.

Tom206wrc
18th December 2012, 14:56
I found the total entrylist on Rallylink forum(Italy)...

Strange that Rok Turk is present, and in R2 class...but no name of the car yet :confused:

PLuto
18th December 2012, 15:25
I found the total entrylist on Rallylink forum(Italy)...

Strange that Rok Turk is present, and in R2 class...but no name of the car yet :confused:

Peugeot 208 R2 is not available in time, he must find different solution...

Georgi
18th December 2012, 15:26
Here is the entry list:

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/fileadmin/pdf/Jaenner-Rallye-2013-EM.pdf

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/fileadmin/pdf/Jaenner-Rallye-2013-Nat.pdf

I hope I'm allowed to post the links.

PLuto
18th December 2012, 15:30
There was agreement between organiser and media not tu publish entry lists before 18:00. Thats why serious media didnt published it yet...

EightGear
18th December 2012, 15:32
There was agreement between organiser and media not tu publish entry lists before 18:00. Thats why serious media didnt published it yet...

The official ERC twitter account published it themselves.

petrolhead49
18th December 2012, 15:35
On official ERC Facebook Page also, and a press release

PLuto
18th December 2012, 15:40
Yes, because now, when it is outside on internet, there is no reason to wait more...

werner
18th December 2012, 15:49
I didnt publish, but I never heard about that agreement ... I got the official press documents with entry list at 13:23 by mail ...?! No word that we should keep it until 18 ... OK, at that time there were details on Czech Forum I think.

Would be useful to tell this agreement to medias (like me too).

Georgi
18th December 2012, 16:08
If the organizer keep the entry list not published by 18:00 o'clock how can it appear elsewhere sooner ?!

werner
18th December 2012, 16:15
If the organizer keep the entry list not published by 18:00 o'clock how can it appear elsewhere sooner ?!

Press conference was held at 10:30, and as I wrote, I got all documents at 13:30 by mail. So nothing about 18:00.

pucky54
18th December 2012, 16:19
On official event homepage the entry list will be published at 6pm, of course the people who have been on the press conferences, received entry confirmations or got official ERC press release, had the list earlier.
Unfortunately there are always people who play "against the rules"!!!

JieM
18th December 2012, 17:33
Good entry list, nice stages... but... the snow please !

mousti
18th December 2012, 18:21
Van Dalen confirmed that Delecour will use a Kronos 207. I assume Valda will continue with Tagai?

Bartek
18th December 2012, 21:30
Guys, what's happened with number 4? :) Who was it?? :)

Adler
18th December 2012, 22:15
Guys, what's happened with number 4? :) Who was it?? :)
I don´t know, but in Austria organizers sometimes keep some numbers available for possible late entries.

had_zachau
19th December 2012, 09:53
Jan Cerny testing

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/525040_440156292698820_642667920_n.jpg

andre93
19th December 2012, 11:45
New Car??

had_zachau
19th December 2012, 11:57
The car should be ex-factory. RP is a new. And yes, Jan Cerny will race with this car.

Mirek
19th December 2012, 16:27
The car should be ex-factory. RP is a new. And yes, Jan Cerny will race with this car.

No, the bodyshell is new.

andre93
19th December 2012, 18:59
Is the 11R 0207 used by Hanninen??

Mirek
19th December 2012, 19:04
I don't follow any plates or body numbers anymore. You have to ask others. But this bodyshell is sure new, never used.

HaCo
19th December 2012, 19:10
Looking forward to this one!

had_zachau
19th December 2012, 20:19
11R 0207 is ex-Hanninen. 11R 0217 is new. If the statistic (http://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo.php?cid=3&spz=1713&t=Skoda-Fabia-S2000) on ewrc are correct

Fiat-131-Abarth
19th December 2012, 20:45
Are there any infos if Odlozilik will also start the rally this time.

Mirek
19th December 2012, 20:48
I think that the ex-Hänninen is scraped or put aside somewhere in Škoda Motorsport. It seems they have so many bodyshells that they don't bother to repair them. The car of Černý has machine parts from the one crashed in Sanremo but the bodyshell is new.

Mirek
19th December 2012, 20:51
Are there any infos if Odlozilik will also start the rally this time.

He will start with JM Racing car if I have good info (himself has no gravel package).

had_zachau
19th December 2012, 20:57
I think that the ex-Hänninen is scraped or put aside somewhere in Škoda Motorsport. It seems they have so many bodyshells that they don't bother to repair them. The car of Černý has machine parts from the one crashed in Sanremo but the bodyshell is new.

Yes that info is written in PR.

Fiat-131-Abarth
21st December 2012, 10:03
I read today in today´s regional newspaper "Volksblatt", that there could be still some late surprise entries (M-Sport?). Does anybody know if this rumour is based on facts or not. Thanks in advance for your answer.

Bartek
21st December 2012, 11:13
Tanak and Kubica?

Plhus
22nd December 2012, 10:40
http://www.autosportfoto.sk/images/gallery/valousek-test-janner-rallye-2013/1t1u9711-3.jpg

http://www.autosportfoto.sk/spravodajst ... allye-2013 (http://www.autosportfoto.sk/spravodajstvo/kategoria/rally/foto/valousek-test-janner-rallye-2013)

Test Valoušek

Rallying UK
22nd December 2012, 14:35
Any new more news on the late entries locally? :-)

PLuto
22nd December 2012, 21:01
I read today in today´s regional newspaper "Volksblatt", that there could be still some late surprise entries (M-Sport?). Does anybody know if this rumour is based on facts or not. Thanks in advance for your answer.

It is rumour based on facts... ...or not :D But I think no M-Sport on Janner...

PLuto
22nd December 2012, 21:13
Also Beppo Harrach and Hermann Neubauer were testing - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14708)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/442769f133e53747c4f9387dcc438051.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/ae60a8a3eecbce1840c6f163aaa10762.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/67fbcedb2c23927cd85f713a770ee851.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/fa775851ceff351c2b98b834bd7bc76f.jpg

Mirek
22nd December 2012, 23:39
Short videos from test of Valoušek: www.AutoSport.CZ (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=768&start=80&p=65922&view=show#p65913)

Kielder
23rd December 2012, 01:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cZeElLuCuV4

Good choice at 1:3:) .

darkstar
23rd December 2012, 14:00
valousek is driving great. was also very spectacular last year!

Sulland
23rd December 2012, 14:24
Tanak and Kubica?

Or maybe both?

PLuto
23rd December 2012, 14:26
Or maybe both?

Or maybe nobody...

Bartek
23rd December 2012, 15:35
Or maybe nobody...

So, no chance to see RK in Janner, yes? :)

PLuto
23rd December 2012, 17:35
So, no chance to see RK in Janner, yes? :)

I think he will be there. At least as spectator...

Ucci
24th December 2012, 10:17
Shame for Beppo Harrach-it is such a waste of his great talent to be again wasted in such an uncompetitive car like old evo9. I really do not understand what and to whom is he going to proof with this crap-car.....he was once national champion, but now he has no chance against Baumschlager in S2000, he is just spending time and money. Yust look back in 2012 season.
With his financial background renting one S2000 or even RRC is a peace of cake....

Juha_Koo
24th December 2012, 11:29
Shame for Beppo Harrach-it is such a waste of his great talent to be again wasted in such an uncompetitive car like old evo9. I really do not understand what and to whom is he going to proof with this crap-car.....

I wouldn't rate Evo9 R4 as a "crap car"...

Ucci
24th December 2012, 11:38
I wouldn't rate Evo9 R4 as a "crap car"...

Comparing to S2000 or RRC-yes, unfortunately. Gone are the days for N4, even with ''mighty'' kit R4...

Coach 2
24th December 2012, 11:42
Shame for Beppo Harrach-it is such a waste of his great talent to be again wasted in such an uncompetitive car like old evo9. I really do not understand what and to whom is he going to proof with this crap-car.....he was once national champion, but now he has no chance against Baumschlager in S2000, he is just spending time and money. Yust look back in 2012 season.
With his financial background renting one S2000 or even RRC is a peace of cake....

If the goal is to win a championship, I agree with your logic Ucci. But if you are looking to show the big men at the top that you are a very good driver, you can drive any car you want. The car must of course be in good order. The problem with doing surprisingly good results with an inferior car, is that one easily consider competition as less good. But if one makes such results often enough, often some big boys give you a chance to see if you are just that very good driver your trying to show off.

Merry Christmas and happy new rally-year Ucci.

Fast Eddie WRC
24th December 2012, 16:28
Where are the other main drivers from the IRC - Breen, Arzeno, Weigand, Flodin, Gassner, Campana, Magalhaes ?
Will they the starting at one of the later rounds ?

And are there any other big names due to join the ERC later ... Basso, Scandola, Loix etc ?

EightGear
24th December 2012, 16:46
No Loix except Ypres I guess.

Kielder
24th December 2012, 17:22
Where are the other main drivers from the IRC - Breen, Arzeno, Weigand, Flodin, Gassner, Campana, Magalhaes ?
Will they the starting at one of the later rounds ?


Bruno Magalhaes was this year out of the IRC because Peugeot Sport Portugal decided to quit at the end of 2011 season. Next year he'll try to do the ERC, but being realistic his target will be participating in the Portuguese Championship.

Andre Oliveira
25th December 2012, 00:56
Magalhães prefer some ERC events instead all season on Portugal. He is 3 time champion, nothing here to conquers.

Mirek
25th December 2012, 15:34
Where are the other main drivers from the IRC - Breen, Arzeno, Weigand, Flodin, Gassner, Campana, Magalhaes ?
Will they the starting at one of the later rounds ?

And are there any other big names due to join the ERC later ... Basso, Scandola, Loix etc ?


Jänner starts too early for most of them. Everyone has to drop some results so it's no harm to start later when You have all sponsorship sorted.

Breen - negotiating with Saintéloc Racing. Looks promising.
Arzeno - I have no idea but maybe he will do again some starts with Saintéloc. Two cars are not that much more expensive than one You already need to bring (for Breen if it ends well).
Wiegand - WRC2 with same team as last year, no ERC plans
Flodin - no idea
Gassner - lost RedBull backing due to bad results
Campana - always did only several events around Mediterranean sea (Tour de Corse, Sanremo, RMC etc.), I think he will do them again
Magalahes - he is trying to make some ERC program but financial wise it's difficult in Protugal these days, especially when Peugeot stopped all support to 207 program
Basso - most likely will join later (Canarias?)
Scandola - never took part in IRC except Italian rounds which he will do again I think
Loix - no plans for ERC from his sponsors I think

Anyway we will get sure more driver later in the season. First weekend of the year is just too early.

stefanvv
25th December 2012, 15:37
Basso - most likely will join later (Canarias?)

yes

pucky54
25th December 2012, 16:20
Anyway we will get sure more driver later in the season. First weekend of the year is just too early.

When we keep that in mind the entry list for Jänner is great I have to say ;)

HaCo
25th December 2012, 16:22
I agree!

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werner
26th December 2012, 09:32
Late Entry, Michal Solowow with Peugeot 207 S2000.

Fiat-131-Abarth
26th December 2012, 10:33
Great! Do you know if there are other late entries, because Solowow hasn´t appeared on the official entry list yet.

werner
26th December 2012, 12:44
Great! Do you know if there are other late entries, because Solowow hasn´t appeared on the official entry list yet.

Solowow has number 10, there exist a new entry list. There was a discuss (or better a request) for 2-3 other big drivers, but I suppose in that short time it was impossible to organize.

PLuto
26th December 2012, 14:37
Yes, Michal Solowow is confirmed with number 10. It looks like only him and Martina Danhelova with Clio Sport are the only confirmed late entries...

Rallying UK
26th December 2012, 16:18
Where can I find online, the latest Start List please?

PLuto
26th December 2012, 16:24
Here is the latest official version of entry list (Autosport : MMR - Int. Jnner Rallye (MMR+ME) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=1086) - use "Seznam prihlasenych posadek"), but it is still without Solowow (he will be in next version :) )

Rallying UK
26th December 2012, 17:24
Thank you very much! :)

PLuto
27th December 2012, 19:35
Video from test of Valda before Janner


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sqQjnlFpUY

hari
28th December 2012, 14:38
Raimund Baumschlager did some more testing for the Jänner Rallye with his Skoda Fabia S2000 yesterday and today.

The road surface varied from dry tarmac to ice and today even loads of fresh snow.

My pictures:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_brr_testfahrten_vor_jaenner_rallye_2013_2.ph p
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_brr_testfahrten_vor_jaenner_rallye_20 13_2.php

Video will follow...

http://www.ir7.at/j221.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/j222.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/j223.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/j224.jpg

MartijnS
28th December 2012, 14:51
Any idea of the conditions on the stages? Snow?

hari
28th December 2012, 14:59
Today there should have been some snowing on the higher stages like Liebenau.
But it looks like winter is coming perfectly in time as last year:
Wetter Liebenau, Oberösterreich, Österreich. 16-Tages Wettervorhersage auf wetter.com (http://at.wetter.com/wetter_aktuell/wettervorhersage/16_tagesvorhersage/?id=ATAT30336)

hari
28th December 2012, 21:11
Raimund Baumschlager testing: 27.-28.12.2012 - 5 Min.


https://vimeo.com/56437559

PLuto
29th December 2012, 20:55
http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307538_10200199533496830_899584076_n.jpg

modri dirkac
30th December 2012, 08:47
Rok Turk with Citroen C2 R2 Max. He will continue with Peugeot 208 R2.

RAS007
30th December 2012, 15:40
http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307538_10200199533496830_899584076_n.jpg

Is Delecour confirmed for all 13 rounds of the ERC? I thought he was, but seem to remeber reading something recently that he was still waiting for final confirmation on sponsorship, or similar.....

Fast Eddie WRC
30th December 2012, 16:54
Jänner starts too early for most of them. Everyone has to drop some results so it's no harm to start later when You have all sponsorship sorted.

Breen - negotiating with Saintéloc Racing. Looks promising.
Arzeno - I have no idea but maybe he will do again some starts with Saintéloc. Two cars are not that much more expensive than one You already need to bring (for Breen if it ends well).
Wiegand - WRC2 with same team as last year, no ERC plans
Flodin - no idea
Gassner - lost RedBull backing due to bad results
Campana - always did only several events around Mediterranean sea (Tour de Corse, Sanremo, RMC etc.), I think he will do them again
Magalahes - he is trying to make some ERC program but financial wise it's difficult in Protugal these days, especially when Peugeot stopped all support to 207 program
Basso - most likely will join later (Canarias?)
Scandola - never took part in IRC except Italian rounds which he will do again I think
Loix - no plans for ERC from his sponsors I think

Anyway we will get sure more driver later in the season. First weekend of the year is just too early.

Great info summary for the ERC year ahead, many thanks. :)

Fly
30th December 2012, 21:05
Bouffier:

http://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/734131_10151171784185754_1939761464_n.jpg

stefanvv
31st December 2012, 12:30
Is Delecour confirmed for all 13 rounds of the ERC? I thought he was, but seem to remeber reading something recently that he was still waiting for final confirmation on sponsorship, or similar.....

10 rounds - Francois Delecour set for 10-event ERC programme - IRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104961)

RAS007
31st December 2012, 13:27
10 rounds - Francois Delecour set for 10-event ERC programme - IRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104961)

Great stuff. :up: Thanks.

PLuto
31st December 2012, 14:46
Photogallery from todays test of Francois Delecour - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14727)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/7d977b97f237d670478029e3d1504723.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/35d0653636fd328d7a4b734a83c59c25.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC
31st December 2012, 15:19
Photogallery from todays test of Francois Delecour - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14727)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/7d977b97f237d670478029e3d1504723.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/35d0653636fd328d7a4b734a83c59c25.jpg

Testing on dry tarmac for a snow rally :confused:

bluuford
31st December 2012, 15:56
Testing on dry tarmac for a snow rally :confused:

It looks like this year it will not be snow rally. Only stages 2,3 will be snowy. However, not much dry tramac is also expected. Rain, light rain, modereate rain and very light rain is the main weather we might expect. But there is still a few days to go and much can change on the mountains

Ondra WRC
31st December 2012, 16:15
http://www.motolevel.com/data/photo/images/5606/06.jpg
http://www.motolevel.com/data/photo/images/5606/19.jpg
http://www.motolevel.com/data/photo/images/5606/18.jpg

My photos from test Francois Delecour: MOTOLEVEL.com | Test - Francois Delecour p?ed Jänner Rallye - foto Ondra Kraj?a (http://www.motolevel.com/fotogalerie-5606-test-francois-delecour-pred-janner-rallye-foto-ondra-krajca)

106 sport
31st December 2012, 20:05
10 rounds - Francois Delecour set for 10-event ERC programme - IRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104961)

The link says nothing about Rally Islas Canarias...
i hope he come to Gran Canaria once more time.

bluuford
31st December 2012, 20:55
He is using Estonian colors:-)

Kielder
1st January 2013, 12:21
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/photos/francois_delecour_test_pred_janner_rallye_2012/kp_delecour_test02.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/photos/francois_delecour_test_pred_janner_rallye_2012/ine_dsc_7478.jpg

eWRC-results.com - archive and online results from WRC and rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=7640&t=Francois-Delecour-test-pred-Janner-Rallye-2012)

WUff1
1st January 2013, 13:19
According to Austrian weather service ZAMG it will be wet and stormy (gust of about 60 km/h), snow above 1100m on Friday and above 800-1000m on Saturday. So it seems to be a rallye mainly on slippery tarmac this year.

RAS007
1st January 2013, 13:57
Great pictures from Delecour's test day. Thanks to all you guys for posting.

Mirek
1st January 2013, 23:05
Recent photos from stage Libenau...

www.AutoSport.CZ (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=768&sid=1e3c3984720133e53e39e3a388a8f5c4&start=120#p66011)

Jean-Michel Raoux and Robert Zitta are not present.

had_zachau
2nd January 2013, 08:45
SS 3/6. Foto by Jan Cerny

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/394900_403778163026095_570747264_n.jpg

WUff1
2nd January 2013, 08:56
According to regional newspaper "Oberösterreichische Nachrichten" Benito Guerra and Chris Atkinson tried a late entry, but finally didn´t manage it because of some small issues.

Raoux and Zitta maybe didn´t find co-drivers, both are listed alone on the entry list.

had_zachau
2nd January 2013, 09:04
SS 2/5 before start. Foto by Mira Tarabus
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s480x480/764_503348576375861_744284142_n.jpg

HaCo
2nd January 2013, 09:31
Perfect conditions!

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bluuford
2nd January 2013, 09:45
Unfortunately not for long :-(

RS
2nd January 2013, 09:45
According to regional newspaper "Oberösterreichische Nachrichten" Benito Guerra and Chris Atkinson tried a late entry, but finally didn´t manage it because of some small issues.


Chris Atkinson? Interesting... is he trying for some ERC programme?

WUff1
2nd January 2013, 09:59
I don´t know. This Newspaper wrote Mini Motorsport tried the entry - but I think they retired with Rally di Espana?

darkstar
2nd January 2013, 10:09
Unfortunately not for long :-(

do you know what the weather is going to be like?

stefanvv
2nd January 2013, 12:28
do you know what the weather is going to be like?

He always knows - http://www.motorsportforums.com/erc/155965-%5Berc%5D-%5Borm%5D-%5Bmmcr%5D-30-int-j%E4nner-rallye-2013-03-05-01-2013-a-10.html#post1094137

Fiat-131-Abarth
2nd January 2013, 12:36
The fotos by Tarabus and Cerny were taken at an altitude of around 900 meters. In the lower regions (Gutau or Pregarten f.e.) there is absolutly no snow or ice. I´m afraid bluuford is right that these snow conditions won´t last till the rally starts. According to the forecasts from the Austrian broadcasting cooperation there will be rain showers on Friday (snow above 1,000 meters). On Saturday strong rain. Snow in the morning above 1,100 meters later falling to 600 meters.

bluuford
2nd January 2013, 13:13
Weather update:

Shakedown: as the rain passed today in the morning already I assume that it will be almost dry with some icy patched in the shade.
There will be around -1 degrees at the beginning, 0 degrees by 10 am and +1 by 12. Light snowfall might appear starting between 13-14 pm

Day 1:
SS1
It is held in lower altitudes. temperature should be between +2..+4 (increasing).light rain overinght that changes to more moderate as the day progresses
SS2,3
Very light snow is expected tomorrow and overnight. The temperature during the stages ranges between +1..+2 degrees. Light rain is also expected. So, there is some snow left from todays and from tomorrows snowfall. Specially for the first cars. But I assume that noone is using snow tires.

SS4 temperature +3..+4 degrees, light rain and sometimes moderate it gets more windier (5-6 m/s)
SS5,6 temperature ..+2..+3 degrees, probably no more snow left on the roads, light to moderate rain, wind 5-6 m/s.

SS7,8 temperature .+4..+6 degrees, light rain, still windy

SS9,10 temperature still +4..+6degrees and light rain changes to more moderate rain for the later starteres on the last stage.

Saturday:
All the day moderate rain, temperature between +2..+4 degrees, wind 5-6 m/s, temperature drops as the day progresses but not below 0. Snow should not appear before the end of rally.

Things might change slightly but not too much anymore.

bluuford
2nd January 2013, 13:14
Weather update:

Shakedown: as the rain passed today in the morning already I assume that it will be almost dry with some icy patched in the shade.
There will be around -1 degrees at the beginning, 0 degrees by 10 am and +1 by 12. Light snowfall might appear starting between 13-14 pm

Day 1:
SS1
It is held in lower altitudes. temperature should be between +2..+4 (increasing).light rain overinght that changes to more moderate as the day progresses
SS2,3
Very light snow is expected tomorrow and overnight. The temperature during the stages ranges between +1..+2 degrees. Light rain is also expected. So, there is some snow left from todays and from tomorrows snowfall. Specially for the first cars. But I assume that noone is using snow tires.

SS4 temperature +3..+4 degrees, light rain and sometimes moderate it gets more windier (5-6 m/s)
SS5,6 temperature ..+2..+3 degrees, probably no more snow left on the roads, light to moderate rain, wind 5-6 m/s.

SS7,8 temperature .+4..+6 degrees, light rain, still windy

SS9,10 temperature still +4..+6degrees and light rain changes to more moderate rain for the later starteres on the last stage.

Saturday:
All the day moderate rain, temperature between +2..+4 degrees, wind 5-6 m/s, temperature drops as the day progresses but not below 0. Snow should not appear before the end of rally.

Things might change slightly but not too much anymore.

bluuford
3rd January 2013, 08:31
Any news from shakedown? I can see that there was just a little snowfall just before the start of shakedown. Now it should be clear for next few hours

MR666
3rd January 2013, 09:55
Official website has been updated.

Looks good.

Homepage - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/)

Salist
3rd January 2013, 11:05
What are the conditions on the Special Stages? Dry, wet, snow or ice?

stefanvv
3rd January 2013, 11:08
What are the conditions on the Special Stages? Dry, wet, snow or ice?

May be all of it :)

Tom206wrc
3rd January 2013, 11:40
Finally a C2 R2 Max for Rok Turk :confused:

Mirek
3rd January 2013, 11:42
There is no private 208 R2 ready to compete. Engines are missing.

dupanton
3rd January 2013, 11:42
Finally a C2 R2 Max for Rok Turk :confused:

I guess the 208 won't be ready. I read here somewhere that he will use the 208 for the rest off the championship!

Kielder
3rd January 2013, 12:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-qWg-Din2Y

RICARDO75
3rd January 2013, 13:57
No news about shakedown...

Kielder
3rd January 2013, 14:02
They're proud of the logo...

http://i46.tinypic.com/15fqiwh.jpg

danon
3rd January 2013, 15:11
They're proud of the logo...

:laugh: ...

Kielder
3rd January 2013, 15:29
Turan's Impreza:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/550966_10151626106453289_1402568368_n.jpg

Kielder
3rd January 2013, 15:44
Top 10 shakedown times:

1 Jan Kopecký (CZE)/Pavel Dresler (CZE) ŠKODA Fabia S2000 1m11.3s
2 François Delecour (FRA)/Dominique Savignoni (FRA) Peugeot 207 S2000 +1.2s
3 Beppo Harrach (AUT)/Leopold Welserscheimb (AUT) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX R4 +1.7s
4 Pavel Valoušek (CZE)/Lukáš Kostka (CZE) Peugeot 207 S2000 +2.2s
5 Michal Sołowow (POL/Maciej Baran (POL) Peugeot 207 S2000 +2.8s
6 Václav Pech (CZE)/Petr Uhel (CZE) MINI John Cooper Works S2000 +3.1s
7 Bryan Bouffier (FRA)/Olivier Fournier (FRA) Peugeot 207 S2000 +3.4s
8 Raimund Baumschlager (AUT)/Klaus Wicha (GER) ŠKODA Fabia S2000 +3.9s
= Jan Černý (CZE)/Pavel Kohout (CZE) ŠKODA Fabia S2000 +3.9s
10 Martin Fischerlehner (AUT)/Tobias Unterweger (AUT) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX +4.6s

PLuto
3rd January 2013, 15:47
Results from shakedown: Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14733)

Kielder
3rd January 2013, 15:56
Results from shakedown: Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14733)

... and a great photo of Kopecký. Waiting for the full gallery.

Bartek
3rd January 2013, 16:09
PLuto maybe you know something about Kajetanowicz, his times or how he drove shakedown :)

RS
3rd January 2013, 16:16
Kopecky seems to have really high suspension, or is it just the attitude of the car in that photo?

Jarek Z
3rd January 2013, 16:29
They're proud of the logo...

http://i46.tinypic.com/15fqiwh.jpg

Is this enough logos per square meter? ;)

Fiat-131-Abarth
3rd January 2013, 16:46
I think the results of the shakedown don´t are really significant, as many drivers tested studded tyres on wet tarmac. Although Kopecky looked really fast.

On the result website the start list was already published. Gassner, Tucek, Böhm and Neubauer are missing, although I saw their cars in the service park. Haven´t the passed the scrutineering or is it a mistake?

Fiat-131-Abarth
3rd January 2013, 17:16
Böhm and Neubauer appeared on the list now.

PLuto
3rd January 2013, 17:23
I think the results of the shakedown don´t are really significant, as many drivers tested studded tyres on wet tarmac. Although Kopecky looked really fast.

On the result website the start list was already published. Gassner, Tucek, Böhm and Neubauer are missing, although I saw their cars in the service park. Haven´t the passed the scrutineering or is it a mistake?

Gassner, Tucek and Petrasek didnt passed scrutineering.

PLuto
3rd January 2013, 17:24
Photogallery from shakedown - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14734)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/0eeaa57acef755e5569a3fb84bbbfe1f.jpg

PLuto
3rd January 2013, 17:25
PLuto maybe you know something about Kajetanowicz, his times or how he drove shakedown :)

1:23.3, 1:22.7, 1:24.0

Juha_Koo
3rd January 2013, 17:28
Onboard Cerny-Kohout from shake: V?e o Rally CZ, AutoCrossu, RallyCrossu, Kartingu ? MediaSport.cz (http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/4242.html)

Georgi
3rd January 2013, 17:48
1:23.3, 1:22.7, 1:24.0

His times are a bit slow I think. More than 10 seconds from Kopecky for just 2 km.
Is it possible that he started later than the other frontrunners and the weather conditions changed to worse?

To me Kajto is a very fast driver.

pucky54
3rd January 2013, 18:00
... and a great photo of Kopecký. Waiting for the full gallery.

Thanks Kielder, my gallery is already online!

pucky54
3rd January 2013, 18:03
Kopecky seems to have really high suspension, or is it just the attitude of the car in that photo?

Gravel suspension

Georgi
3rd January 2013, 18:12
Gravel suspension

I wonder why they should use gravel type?

zajic
3rd January 2013, 18:19
Photogallery from Jannerrallye shakedown HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1111)

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1111/1111_30_ef980128d1.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1111/1111_30_26c22d8914.jpg

Georgi
3rd January 2013, 18:20
Sorry everybody for the spam but I want to wish a good event and finish to the only Bulgarian crew in this rally - Anton Titov / Ventsislav Mirchev - number 49.

They are doing the right thing to be at such a high level rally with such difficult conditions.
Hope they can get the best experience out of it.

hari
3rd January 2013, 18:34
Some pictures from Shakedown:

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_orm_erc_jaenner_rallye_2013_shakedown .php

http://www.ir7.at/js1.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/js2.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/js3.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/js4.jpg

RS
3rd January 2013, 18:40
Kopecky on shakedown: Shakedown Kopecky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eMET7reKOE&feature=youtu.be&a)

dimviii
3rd January 2013, 19:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9A1_lQQNzIY

dimviii
3rd January 2013, 19:03
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.506509819371706.103334.200313119991379&type=1

Abarth
3rd January 2013, 19:32
If they can make the N4 sound like an Ur-Quattro I will support the class fully!

bluuford
3rd January 2013, 19:43
Forecast for tomorrow is very slightly changed. It looks like the snowy part on the stage is going to be very small or it is going to dissapear totally. So, my rough guess is the best times will be without studs and with normal rain tires.
First 6 stages should be run with very light rain. Rain gets stronger in the evening and later stages should experience moderate rain. Tomorrow night will be very heavy rain and roads very wet by Saturday morning.
Have a good rally day, I have to work tomorrow.

dimviii
3rd January 2013, 20:16
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/574975_521782221176861_1336854424_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.521776144510802.114876.155972191091201&type=1

Jeppe
3rd January 2013, 20:23
Kopecky on shakedown: Shakedown Kopecky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eMET7reKOE&feature=youtu.be&a)

Look at the video in 1:00. How stupid place can spectators be?!??! I really hope that organizers change their ´line´ before something happens...

RS
3rd January 2013, 20:28
Shakedown video at fiaerc.com: Event Videos' Gallery - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/list/id/1)

WUff1
3rd January 2013, 20:31
According to special national weather service (ZAMG) data temperature is still rising in the rallye area now and also during the next hours, only the Liebenau area still below freeze point now. Minimum this night should be around 0-1°C.

Forecast is also for 40mm rain starting tomorrow noon ´till sunday morning in the Freistadt area, so there will be some really heavy rain during parts of the rallye.

Juha_Koo
3rd January 2013, 20:33
Look at the video in 1:00. How stupid place can spectators be?!??! I really hope that organizers change their ´line´ before something happens...

90% of them are photo/videographers judging from the vests they are wearing... But I agree 100%, I noticed the same thing, their placement is terrible... Slightly tightening and tyhjää takana, not good.

"Media vest doesn't make you into a superman - remember that." A thing that I understand and from the bottom of my heart I hope that everyone wearing them would remember.

RS
3rd January 2013, 20:55
Reading the weather forecast I guess Skoda will send Kopecky out on full studs tomorrow then...

Can anyone explain why Jan appears to be running gravel suspension?

Mirek
3rd January 2013, 21:19
I wonder why they should use gravel type?

Unlike RMC in Jänner the crews are allowed to use small snow wheels, gravel brakes and other suspension parts. That gives big advantage over pure snow surface but Jänner is usually a mixed event so one may end with various peculiar setup/tyre combinations. I guess they just did one run on such strange combination to have the feeling of what may come.

Fast Eddie WRC
3rd January 2013, 21:25
Latest weather info changes again:

Drivers braced for snow and ice in Austria

The 2013 FIA European Rally Championship gets underway in Austria tomorrow morning with snow and icy conditions expected.


After heavy snow coated the route of last year’s International Jännerrallye route, another wintry event was expected. But with ambient temperatures rising over the last few weeks there were fears that there would be no snow. However, leading crews are now braced for ice and overnight snow.

“From my last information the stage number three for example in the St Oswald village they have minus one degree and the whole stage is covered in snow,” said 10-time Austrian champion Raimund Baumschlager. “Then it will be the same in Liebenau I guess and maybe we have more snow overnight and we will see.”

Former world champion Stig Blomqvist, who is making his annual appearance on the Freistadt-based event, said: “Sitting here now I don’t have any idea what is happening tomorrow morning. The weather now is raining here but a bit higher up is it snowing? It’s very exciting and it’s one of those rallies that you can never be sure when you sit here the night before the start what you have to expect the next day. I would prefer snow, it’s more fun for everybody.”

Last year’s winner Jan Kopecký added: “Hopefully it will be the same as last year but this year it will be more difficult. As Raimund said we don’t know what is coming tomorrow.”