[ERC] [ORM] [MMCR] 30. Int. Jänner Rallye 2013 (03.-05.01.2013):

[Mirek]

Kopecky on shakedown: Shakedown Kopecky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eMET7reKOE&feature=youtu.be&a)

This road was also used for PSD shootout in the year when Nikara was chosen.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Quality shakedown vid with great sound ... and a Quattro !! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A1_lQQNzIY

[MAXLD]

Rally nice vid, love to see those Evo's sliding. And the Quattro sounds fantastic. :)

[Kielder]

Four aces, different suits:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ0Yeg2OPhQ

[danon]

Four aces, different suits:

... no euphoria. What's wrong?

[PLuto]

Here you can find official results under wings of FIA ERC - Event's Live Results - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/1)
Here will be also national field - 30. Int. Jänner Rallye 2013 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/30-int-janner-rallye-2013/)

[PLuto]

Tyres for first section:

narrow with studs: 5, 7, 8, 11, 19, 16, 17, 18, 22, 24, 25, 26, 28
wide with studs (and usually two wet without studs as spare): 1, 2, 3,
6, 9, 1O, 12, 15, 23, 27, 29, 30, 31, 43

[Micke_VOC]

SS1 starts now:
INFORMATION ABOUT SS 1
Weather condition at 7:30 - stage is completely wet, temperature around +6 from 30. Int. Jänner Rallye 2013 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/30-int-janner-rallye-2013/)

[dupanton]

SS1: wet
SS2: half wet and half ice
SS3: ice

[Rally Hokkaido]

SS1: wet*
SS2: half wet and half ice
SS3: ice

*with ice patches according to Jan who has wide studded tyres fitted (mainly for SS2 & SS3)

[dupanton]

Guys on the narrow tyres are losing a lot of time on ss1. But it should be better on 2 and 3

[HaCo]

Yes, awesome Quattro sound!

Verstuurd van mijn MT15i met Tapatalk

[Mirek]

Nice, now Baumschlager way faster than guys on wide tyres. Let's see how it continues!

[had_zachau]

SS3

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/36509_468750136515212_1588530145_n.jpg

[Raven]

After ss2 it looks like we have a tyre choice roulette :) Loosing almost a minute doesn't mean you lost the rally.

[HaCo]

Very nice to the Austrians fighting back!!! :D

Love these lotery conditions!

[RS]

Blomqvist reminds me of an old Kimi Raikkonen. The original Iceman?

[had_zachau]

zero car on SS3

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537181_468778913179001_1858506901_n.jpg

[Raven]

Wow, we have live coverage on the forum! ;)

[had_zachau]

Near the Startline of SS3 Foto Julien Porter
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/16777_508820422495651_233768204_n.jpg

and his tweet: Strangest thing, the start & finish of SS3 are 100 meters apart, but i can't see it, just heard Kopecky leave the start!

[Mirek]

Completely different tyres and times in stages but after SS3 Kopecký and Baumschlager are almost equal :)

[stefanvv]

1 minute adrift is nothing in these conditions :D

[Livewireshock]

Very clearly a case of local knowledge helping with the weather conditions on SS3. Definitely enjoying the radio coverage tonight.

[Livewireshock]

It was an interesting rumour being reported by Julian Porter, about M-Sport preparing two R5 Fiesta's for ERC competition. Ott Tanak and Robert Kubica being the rumoured drivers.......... Hope there is some substance to this.

[urabus-denoS2000]

It was an interesting rumour being reported by Julian Porter, about M-Sport preparing two R5 Fiesta's for ERC competition. Ott Tanak and Robert Kubica being the rumoured drivers.......... Hope there is some substance to this.

This is rumored for quite some time, I hope it is true, especially after seeing Kubica live on two occasions- I was never with any rally driver as with him.

Fantastic rally so far, nice to see Jan Černy currently beating the Frenchmen :)

[Ciko]

Turan's car:
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215676_507771992577107_1668433181_n.jpg

[had_zachau]

Shimakovskiy

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/270286_468822939841265_1758872504_n.jpg

[Kielder]

Awesome scratch for Orsak. Great performance by Harrach.


Four aces, different suits:


... no euphoria. What's wrong?


Four aces of different suits (of cards:confused :) :
- The favourite to win the rally (who is speaking).
- A man who is currently second fastest (who doesn't hog the camera).
- The crazy one (who thinks he's losing his time listening the favourite to win the rally).
- The old World Champion (who watches his watch -1:31- because years ago rally drivers used to drive more and speak less and he knows he's losing his time sitting with those children, including the crazy one).

[dupanton]

According to the stage end reporter, the Orsak time wasn't correct. There was a 6min57 time on the board. Can anyone confirm/deny this? :)

[Rally Hokkaido]

Simon Wagner seeded car 88 in an Evo III wins SS3 - my new hero!

[Kielder]

Better than nothing: Jänerrallye on USTREAM: . Racing (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/j%C3%A4nerrallye)

[Mirek]

According to the stage end reporter, the Orsak time wasn't correct. There was a 6min57 time on the board. Can anyone confirm/deny this? :)

5:57 is correct. Timekeepers made a mistake.

[Mirek]

Simon Wagner seeded car 88 in an Evo III wins SS3 - my new hero!

Not that unusual thing in Jänner if You have a look in results of past editions. Usually road conditions change a lot during first runs and often the later You drive the better for You.

[Bartek]

SS4 is delayed?

[had_zachau]

Mirek: any news about tyre choise?

[Mirek]

I'm sitting in Prague at work. I have no local information, sorry...

[had_zachau]

Okay,i will wait to rally radio

Mayer
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/734691_466431096751662_1793873740_n.jpg

[urabus-denoS2000]

Simon Wagner seeded car 88 in an Evo III wins SS3 - my new hero!

There was a similar situation last year early in the rally ;)

29. Int. Jänner Rallye 2012 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2012/29-int-janner-rallye-2012/?ssId=953)

[Mirek]

From Pluto:
Narrow tyres with studs: Semerád, Rosenberger, Blomqvist, Fischerlehner, Hudec, Mifka, Firla
Wide tyres with studs for the rest

[br21]

Turan damaged the car pretty heavily
What does Shimakovskiy hit?

[Livewireshock]

Too bad the rally action on the big screen in the background is being broadcast, rather than a view of a half empty hall.

[Livewireshock]

5:57 is correct. Timekeepers made a mistake.

After a top 5 result on the stage before, I would believe the good time Orsak set.

[Kielder]

The new website is working well, with constant updates: ERC AUSTRIA SS1 HIGHLIGHT (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id/9/t/ERC-AUSTRIA-SS1-HIGHLIGHT)

Edit: the video isn't available now :confused: .http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id/9/t/ERC-AUSTRIA-SS1-HIGHLIGHT

[RS]

The new website is working well, with constant updates: ERC AUSTRIA SS1 HIGHLIGHT (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id/9/t/ERC-AUSTRIA-SS1-HIGHLIGHT)

That's pretty quick. Good work.

[trance_energy]

What happend with Gassner jr?

[Mirek]

What happend with Gassner jr?

Gassner jr. didn't even enter. It was his father on the entry list but his car didn't pass scrutineering.

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwReFxMc9VA&feature=player_embedded

[trance_energy]

Gassner jr. didn't even enter. It was his father on the entry list but his car didn't pass scrutineering.
thanks!

[stefanvv]

What happened to Rosenberger's car?

EDIT: Ok, I read - electrical problem.

[br21]

very tricky this ss3!

[urabus-denoS2000]

What were the homologation problems Gassner had with his Evo X?

[br21]

What were the homologation problems Gassner had with his Evo X?

Probably Pluto will know. It's rather special situation when such "up to date" car like evoX is not passing first scrutineering... maybe it's related to those few rules changes that started to be obligatory in 2013 (extinguisher system, steering column adjustment)

[Rally Hokkaido]

Very close fight at the top, but the live results have stopped updating. Pech in the Mini is either .2 or .4 secs behind Kopecky.


EDIT: they're working now and Pech is back in third, 5.8 secs behind. Baumschlager is 4.1 secs behind the leader.

[dimviii]

why Baumschlager was slow at last stage?

[dupanton]

Picture of the "new" gear lever made by Delecour on our facebookpage: (it was to big to upload here...)
http://www.facebook.com/tacrally

Pictures by Julian Porter ;)

[RAS007]

What the hell has happened to Delecour? Mechanical problems or just old age? I really expected/hoped for him to be further up the leaderboard......

[Mirek]

Go through previous pages. So far it's been anything but an event depending on outright speed (due to weather and road conditions). Francois also drove three stages with broken gear-shift lever.

[Tom206wrc]

Bouffier did very interesting 2nd loop of stages ;)
I hope he will continue to improve on last four stages of the leg :)

[stefanvv]

why Baumschlager was slow at last stage?

Tactical advantage for tomorrow loop :confused:

[RAS007]

Go through previous pages. So far it's been anything but an event depending on outright speed (due to weather and road conditions). Francois also drove three stages with broken gear-shift lever.

Ok good stuff. I am a diehard Delecour fan and am always looking for him to be doing as well as possible.....

[Mirek]

Tactical advantage for tomorrow loop :confused:

There are four more stages to come today ;)

[stefanvv]

There are four more stages to come today ;)

Yeah, thx, for today's stages then.

[Micke_VOC]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/406115_10151154037971021_410315272_n.jpg
Turán Frigyes off,
I friend was there and caught it on camera.

[PLuto]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/406115_10151154037971021_410315272_n.jpg
Turán Frigyes off,
I friend was there and caught it on camera.

It was in usual place in arena near Pierbach.

[Mirek]

Here in online report You can find quotes. The googlish isn't perfect but it may help ;)
P (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=cs&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autosport.cz%2Fclanek.php%3Fcl% 3D14737)

[WUff1]

Gone is the last chance of winning the Rallye for Francois Delecour I believe - 1 minute penalty pushes him back from 7th to 11th position, he´s more than 2 minutes now behind Kopecky. With a little bit of luck and no more failure he´s still able to score points for ERC, but not more. It´s a shame, now with repaired gear-shift-lever he scored second on SS 7 behind Kopecky.

[Tom206wrc]

Delecour didan OK SS7 ;)
SS8 running...

[Crocone]

One minute penalty for Delecour?

[Tom206wrc]

One minute penalty for Delecour?


Same question... :confused:

[wwbroe]

Bryan Bouffier is doing great second loop, hope he can catch up some more time to Jan.

[Mirek]

Guys, it's all in result page. Click on penalties and You'll see that the crew was unfortunately one minute early to the time check...

30. Int. Jänner Rallye 2013 - Penalties - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/30-int-janner-rallye-2013/penalty/)

[RAS007]

Gone is the last chance of winning the Rallye for Francois Delecour I believe - 1 minute penalty pushes him back from 7th to 11th position, he´s more than 2 minutes now behind Kopecky. With a little bit of luck and no more failure he´s still able to score points for ERC, but not more. It´s a shame, now with repaired gear-shift-lever he scored second on SS 7 behind Kopecky.

Edit: thanks Mirek/Tom. Not a great start for Francois for his ERC assault....

[Tom206wrc]

Early in TC for Delecour :(

[Georgi]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/406115_10151154037971021_410315272_n.jpg
Turán Frigyes off,
I friend was there and caught it on camera.

This guy is so crazy :) Always on the limit of his abilities...

[Georgi]

Guys, it's all in result page. Click on penalties and You'll see that the crew was unfortunately one minute early to the time check...

30. Int. Jänner Rallye 2013 - Penalties - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/30-int-janner-rallye-2013/penalty/)

Should be co-driver mistake.

[Bartek]

Wow, Bouffier is very very fast

[Mirek]

Bryan massively faster than Jan in SS8! Heard there is a heavy rain now. Not confirmed though.

[Tom206wrc]

YEAH BRYAN !!!! :bounce:

[wwbroe]

Go Bryan go !!!

[EightGear]

Baumschlager's gamble with studs didn't really work out.

[dimviii]

last stage seems to create big differences while isjust wet.Lets see!

[Bartek]

Probably Valousek has some problems...

[Tom206wrc]

Puncture for Valousek ??? :confused:

[WUff1]

Bryan is doing a super job, getting better and better - congratulations!

[Tom206wrc]

Disastrous weather for drivers behind Valousek :s

[wwbroe]

Beppo Harrach is loosing much time on this one also.

[Mirek]

Massive time lost by many now. Seems like they face major visibility issues. Thick fog on stage.

[wwbroe]

Massive time lost by many now. Seems like they face major visibility issues. Thick fog on stage.

Beppo Harrach is complaining about visibility on stage, windshield problems

[Georgi]

From the top 10 current drivers who has the least experience in this event ?

[Bartek]

From the top 10 current drivers who has the least experience in this event ?

I think Kajetanowicz, first proper abroad rally for him

[Mirek]

Kopecký did it several times, 2012 and several times before 2005 (including)
Bouffier first time
Baumschlager, Pech many many starts
Kajetanowicz first time I think
Harrach many starts
Delecour first time
Orsák many times
Tarabus second time I think (previous in 2008)
Černý several times but it's his first ever event in S2000

[Tom206wrc]

SS8 stopped due to a crash :mark:

[wwbroe]

SS8 stopped due to a crash :mark:

Who crashed on this SS? Nothing serious i hope?

Looks like it is this team:
Kačírek Petr / Ehlová Marcela

[Georgi]

So for the moment Kajetanowicz is the best newcomer!
I like the performance of Cerny as well. Very reliable and stable so far.
Bouffier is a great talent and despite it's first time for him, he is experienced in this Monte style conditions.
Delecour is also making solid performance ... not to say the same for his co-driver.

[WUff1]

Rallye will continue, following teams get notional time and will take other route (good for Bryan that the SS will stay in results). Probably just dangerous position of the car No. 33

[HaCo]

Awesome job by Bouffier! Let's make it not too easy for Jan or anyone, big fight please! :D

[Filip]

So for the moment Kajetanowicz is the best newcomer!
I like the performance of Cerny as well. Very reliable and stable so far.
Bouffier is a great talent and despite it's first time for him, he is experienced in this Monte style conditions.
Delecour is also making solid performance ... not to say the same for his co-driver.

Let's hope Francois won't get angry with his co-driver like he did 10 years ago. :)

Delecour Crashes & gets angry with Navigator-WRC Rally GB 2002. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gluw35vKqA)

[PLuto]

Solowow retired after SS 8...

[Georgi]

Delecour is looking more relaxed now so I doubt he will do something like that again :)

[Crocone]

Let's hope Francois won't get angry with his co-driver like he did 10 years ago. :)

Delecour Crashes & gets angry with Navigator-WRC Rally GB 2002. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gluw35vKqA)

Dominique was just begining his career on that time. Now Francois would't do any rally without him. They have a very good relashionship.

[Georgi]

Solowow retired after SS 8...

This is a surprise!
Electrical problem.

* edited it because I saw the reason.

[stefanvv]

Roulette with tyre continues even on wet only. Some drivers (Delcour, etc.) cut their tyres (intermedia)

[Tom206wrc]

So for the moment Kajetanowicz is the best newcomer!


Bouffier is the best newcomer for now ;)

[RAS007]

Dominique was just begining his career on that time. Now Francois would't do any rally without him. They have a very good relashionship.

That reminds me....in Monte Carlo last year, Francois let Dominique drive on the last stage and when interviewed at the end of the stage, said it was a gift to Dominique as it was his last rally. Did he mean last WRC rally, or did Dominique just decide to carry on co-driving?

[PLuto]

Also Semerad retired after SS 8...

[WUff1]

Also Semerad retired after SS 8...

Do You know why?

[Juha_Koo]

Onboard Delecour - Savignoni SS2 V?e o Rally CZ, AutoCrossu, RallyCrossu, Kartingu ? MediaSport.cz (http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/4258.html?quality=hd)

Lots of discussion going on all the time (feels a bit hot enviroment?) and kinda weird mishap from 04:45-> onwards, Savignoni tells three times about that junction-left (gauche something) and Delecour still turns right... :D

[Tom206wrc]

Heavy rain on SS9 :s

[Barreis]

207 s2000 still very quick in this kind of conditions. Also Bouffier is top ERC class.

[wwbroe]

No big changes on this stage, nice to see besttime for Pech tough. Let's see what can change on the longer (last) stage of the day.

[Georgi]

Bouffier is the best newcomer for now ;)

Yes, I missed him! I just don't count Bouffier as newcomer for such conditions thinking of his experience on Monte Carlo stages. But you are right :)

[Kielder]

Do You know why?

Here's how he explained it on Facebook:

"We are retiring in service park before ss 9 from 11. In ERC and 3. In class. The unstable (dry, wet, snow, ice, rain, fog) conditions today were a rouch test and i decided not to continue in this race. I drove on the stage after six months and i want to go step by step. Today was enough as a second step. Thanks to Jakub Kotal and the whole team for the support and patiance. I apologize to all disapointed fans and thank you for understanding...".

[Mirek]

Pech had a big off.

[Mirek]

Delecour's improvised gear-shift lever :)
http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430894_508893465821680_1138486153_n.jpg

[Crocone]

Funny words from Harrach: 'Very good beginning of the day, but in the night it was bad. Now I was overtaking Tlusťák. Every year they put me behind him and this always happens.''

[WUff1]

Here's how he explained it on Facebook:

"We are retiring in service park before ss 9 from 11. In ERC and 3. In class. The unstable (dry, wet, snow, ice, rain, fog) conditions today were a rouch test and i decided not to continue in this race. I drove on the stage after six months and i want to go step by step. Today was enough as a second step. Thanks to Jakub Kotal and the whole team for the support and patiance. I apologize to all disapointed fans and thank you for understanding...".

Thank You! Must be hard for him in these conditions, still with the terrible accident in mind ... Good luck next time!

[Mirek]

Funny words from Harrach: 'Very good beginning of the day, but in the night it was bad. Now I was overtaking Tlusťák. Every year they put me behind him and this always happens.''

Jaroslav Orsák who is teammate of Tlusťák is now 8,5 minutes ahead despite having much slower car...

[Mirek]

Kopecký did SS7 and 8 on intermediate tyres. That's why he lost so much time to Bouffier who was on full wet.

[hari]

Some first images from today:

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_orm_erc_jaenner_rallye_2013_tag_1.php
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2013/jaenner/bestof2/h1.jpg

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2013/jaenner/bestof2/h2.jpg

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2013/jaenner/bestof2/h4.jpg

[zajic]

First leg photos HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1111)
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1111/1111_30_09f742b58c.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1111/1111_30_6de2e7686d.jpg

[Tinke1979]

Any weather info for tomorrows stages? Any more snow?

[Luis Pacheco]

I have not seen a photo of Bouffier´s 208...

[WUff1]

No, same like today from SS 7 onwards, heavy rain, very wet roads.

[dupanton]

Onboard Delecour - Savignoni SS2 V?e o Rally CZ, AutoCrossu, RallyCrossu, Kartingu ? MediaSport.cz (http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/4258.html?quality=hd)

Lots of discussion going on all the time (feels a bit hot enviroment?) and kinda weird mishap from 04:45-> onwards, Savignoni tells three times about that junction-left (gauche something) and Delecour still turns right... :D

It cant find the video I think?? Really wanted to see it :s

[ChristianArp]

I have not seen a photo of Bouffier´s 208...
He's in a 207, several photos have been posted already. :)

[Luis Pacheco]

He's in a 207, several photos have been posted already. :)

And I was already convinced about the debut of the 208 ... :confused: :arrows:

[Mirek]

208 R5 will debut in Sanremo I think. Homologation is planned for September. If You meant R2 that already had it's premiere with Bryan but it was in Rallye du Var...

[PLuto]

Pictures from first leg by Sven Kollus - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14742)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/c1673f54b34934f25f0d16f5c5e85364.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/8f439b0d8764035b5c9f86ab4efae51a.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/7374214309eeae51ca70a91c58f2eb31.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/ee40739427aeeb08d041165784273ec2.jpg

[mousti]

Snowfun !

ERC Jänner Rallye 2013 - Niki Glisic Drift M3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dmzF9qWvUs)

[mousti]

208 R5 will debut in Sanremo I think. Homologation is planned for September. If You meant R2 that already had it's premiere with Bryan but it was in Rallye du Var...

SanRemo was first time in competition and first time as Zero Car was already in Ulster Rally.

[PLuto]

Any weather info for tomorrows stages? Any more snow?

More rain, more wet, more mud. Actually is +7 in Freistadt.

[mousti]

Onboard Delecour - Savignoni SS2 V?e o Rally CZ, AutoCrossu, RallyCrossu, Kartingu ? MediaSport.cz (http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/4258.html?quality=hd)

Lots of discussion going on all the time (feels a bit hot enviroment?) and kinda weird mishap from 04:45-> onwards, Savignoni tells three times about that junction-left (gauche something) and Delecour still turns right... :D

Onboard dissapeared..

[RS]

Kopecky won some points already for leading after leg one? I didn't know they did that still for this year...

[tolis]

ERC cake made by Stratieva! :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543844_542900769055483_3092105_n.jpg

Sorry for the off topic...

[noel157]

Official SS6 highlights:

2013 ERC Jänner Rallye Day 1 SS1 - SS6 Highlights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd-ol-pZ0rc)

[dimviii]

Official SS6 highlights:

2013 ERC Jänner Rallye Day 1 SS1 - SS6 Highlights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd-ol-pZ0rc)

i was waiting to see more cars...

[stefanvv]

Yeah, and on Eurosport instead of Scheduled Day 1 highlight there is.... snooker. These gentlemen are not in a hurry for anywhere :D

[EightGear]

ERC is delayed on Eurosport because they are still showing TABLE FOOTBALL LIVE. Yes, TABLE FOOTBALL. What. The. Hell.

[Crocone]

ERC is delayed on Eurosport because they are still showing TABLE FOOTBALL LIVE. Yes, TABLE FOOTBALL. What. The. Hell.

I will never understand how they can spend so many money and all the stuffs on this kind of sport event, and in the end to be so.....

[EightGear]

It is actually on Eurosport 2, but still... ERC was supposed to start almost 45 minutes ago. On normal Eurosport it is scheduled for 00:00, in about 30 minutes.

[Mirek]

Kopecky won some points already for leading after leg one? I didn't know they did that still for this year...

Yes, point system is almost same with last years ERC. That means leg bonus points instead of superally.

[danon]

Behind schedule - same old story back again...

[tolis]

Now: Eurosport 2 online, eurosport2 em directo no CasaDosSegredos.tv - Secret Story 3 Online (http://www.casadossegredos.tv/eurosport2)

[Kielder]

Full Pierbach stage onboard:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H10BV2B0MWU&feature=player_embedded

[urabus-denoS2000]

Very dissapointed in Eurosport- still watching snooker on British Eurosport 2

[danon]

What's the result?

[Kielder]

This video includes some "moments" and the Turan's crash:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l45LS_26LBg

[EightGear]

Eurosport 2 program has finished now. Regular Eurosport's programming is ****ed up too now.

How are people going to watch this when it is shown past midnight?

[danon]

Very dissapointed in Eurosport- still watching snooker on British Eurosport 2

You missed nothing!
Watch the vids posted by the forum fellows and you'll get a better picture of the whole event. ;)

[Kielder]

This is the closest to have seen a stage live:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kJDYLgdiRmQ

[urabus-denoS2000]

Women's Skeleton World Cup????

[Kielder]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/429118_449463068436800_1703687145_n.jpg

By the way, great night onboard footage of SS10 on ERC's website.

[danon]

This is the closest to have seen a stage live:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kJDYLgdiRmQ

... and this is the coolest I've seen so far.

Great vid, mate! Watch - compare!

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/internationale_janner_rallye_2013/ine_dsc_7687.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/internationale_janner_rallye_2013/ine_dsc_7896.jpg

eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Internationale Jnner Rallye 2013 Ivo Nesrovnal (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=5868&fotograf=43)

[stefanvv]

Jaroslav Orsák who is teammate of Tlusťák is now 8,5 minutes ahead despite having much slower car...

Go Klausner, Go :D



19.
http://www.ewrc-results.com/flags3/austria.png
Klausner C. - Söllner H. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=5868&d=225722&t=Internationale-Janner-Rallye-2013)
#74 Audi Urquattro
12
1:42:47.6

+12:11.1
+14.5
81.3
5.25


20.
http://www.ewrc-results.com/images/sipka_dolu2.png
http://www.ewrc-results.com/flags3/czech.png
Tlusťák A. - Škaloud J. (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=5868&d=225435&t=Internationale-Janner-Rallye-2013)
#7 Škoda Fabia S2000
2
1:42:59.0

+12:22.5
+11.4
81.1
5.33

[PLuto]

Weather condition is not good, temperature is +6, all stages are wet. It is pity that temperature isnt lower, because whole night was heavy rain...

[dupanton]

How was the starting order made?? Kajetan and Orsak started behind Kopecky, altough they were in the top 10...

[PLuto]

How was the starting order made?? Kajetan and Orsak started behind Kopecky, altough they were in the top 10...

ERC priority...

[dupanton]

ERC priority...

Only Kopecky has FIA priority, the others (they should be in front of Bouffier, Baumschlager etc too) haven't according to the startlist. I do see there is a ERC tag with the others. Are the others registered in the ERC?

[PLuto]

Only Kopecky has FIA priority, the others (they should be in front of Bouffier, Baumschlager etc too) haven't according to the startlist. I do see there is a ERC tag with the others. Are the others registered in the ERC?

There is no registration into ERC. It is about priority - Kopecky has FIA priority, other 7 drivers from top list of second leg have ERC priority.

[dupanton]

There is no registration into ERC. It is about priority - Kopecky has FIA priority, other 7 drivers from top list of second leg have ERC priority.

Owkay, thanks. I dont understand where de ERC priority comes from, but ok :)

[Mirek]

Big attack from Bouffier now!

[wwbroe]

Great time for Bryan on second stage of the day. Let's see if Jan can beat this one.

[dupanton]

What happened to Tarabus and Fisherlehner?

[Mirek]

No idea about Fisherlehner but Tarabus has some electrical problems.

[wwbroe]

What happened to Tarabus and Fisherlehner?

Tarabus is in the standings, i don't see Fisherlehner tough?

Edit: Mirek was again faster :D

[dupanton]

He came trough later I guess, so probably a penalty for him :(

[Mirek]

Fisherlehner crashed.

[wwbroe]

Fisherlehner crashed.

Thanks for the info Mirek, too bad for him.

[PLuto]

Owkay, thanks. I dont understand where de ERC priority comes from, but ok :)

It comes from new regulations...

[Georgi]

Here's how he explained it on Facebook:

"We are retiring in service park before ss 9 from 11. In ERC and 3. In class. The unstable (dry, wet, snow, ice, rain, fog) conditions today were a rouch test and i decided not to continue in this race. I drove on the stage after six months and i want to go step by step. Today was enough as a second step. Thanks to Jakub Kotal and the whole team for the support and patiance. I apologize to all disapointed fans and thank you for understanding...".

It's a bit sad story. I'm so sorry for this young lad. I really hope we will recover fully soon.

[WUff1]

1 min 40 sec penalty for Tarabus´ late entry to SS 12. He is now 10th, with chances for Valousek to surpass him, because Valousek is driving faster today.

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LqlyN7s0E6U#!

[HaCo]

Very nice the way you can follow the rally on twitter! Nice to see they have found this medium.
Think they should try to look to make live broadcasting simpler and cheaper. Would be happy with live footage of one corner/ position for every stage- broadcast.

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[Bartek]

Harrach is fast, i see problems for Kajto with 1 place in Production...

Or maybe no problems, only 5 seconds

[RS]

Yes, point system is almost same with last years ERC. That means leg bonus points instead of superally.

I am not keen on points being awarded for not the full rally, on the other hand this does give crews incentive to push and also avoids stupid running order tactics too.

[Mirek]

Wow


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62MmbE4HEY&feature=player_embedded

[RS]

"1 - Kopecký Jan / Dresler Pavel): We need to push, because Bryan pushes as well. There were few places where there was really lot of mud, uh."

Good to see Jan saying this; normally it is "We need to get the points for Skoda, we don't want to do any stupid mistakes..." e.t.c.

I guess he and Bouffier are both fighting for a bigger programme.

[stefanvv]

Day 1 highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF3vL2C9xsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekV9Sw4pwsM

[dimviii]

Wow


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62MmbE4HEY&feature=player_embedded

100 meters out of road without control and not a scratch!! veeeeery lucky!!

[dimviii]

so can Harrach catch Kajito with 24,4 sec difference and 71 stage km more?Seems that his setup is ok now.

[werner]

Wow


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62MmbE4HEY&feature=player_embedded

Klausner is one of the few stupid guys here in Austria, every year the same. I really hope he dont crash into spectators one time. On that place he was so fast, THAT is stupid!

[wwbroe]

What happened with Delecour? Maybe puncture???

[PLuto]

What happened with Delecour? Maybe puncture???

puncture

[dimviii]

What happened with Delecour? Maybe puncture???

(3 - Delecour François / Savignoni Dominique): Front left puncture. We ran on it eight kilometers.

[wwbroe]

Looks like really good time for Harrach

[wwbroe]

Puncture for Kopecky??? Ohh that is not so good.

[Mirek]

Kopecký and Delecour puncture!

Kopecký back to third loosing 30 seconds now!

[Bartek]

Big lost for Jan :/

[stefanvv]

Klausner is one of the few stupid guys here in Austria, every year the same. I really hope he dont crash into spectators one time. On that place he was so fast, THAT is stupid!

That was crazy, however there shouldn't be spectators at that place!

[wwbroe]

Bryan in the lead now, very close between Kopecky and Baumschlager

[WUff1]

Also means Delecour looses 5th and also 6th position, must let Kajetanowicz and Harrach pass.

[WUff1]

Problems for Kopecky!!

EDIT: Lost top position to Bryan, also Baumschlager surpasses him.

[dimviii]

Harrach now 17,1 behind Kajito

[RS]

Bryan in the lead now, very close between Kopecky and Baumschlager

I hope Kopecky will try to fight back. There are 58km to go...

[AndyRAC]

Kopecky doesn't know were he had the puncture, or how - he was driving on the line.

Drama......

[dimviii]

I hope Kopecky will try to fight back. There are 58km to go...

dont think that he will try to catch Bouffier

[dimviii]

moment for Valousek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=erV_YqOxy6Y#!

[Mirek]

dont think that he will try to catch Bouffier

I think he will try. He has nothing to loose. He doesn't need points and third or second is a defeat for factory team anyway. So...

[Bartek]

I think he will try. He has nothing to loose. He doesn't need points and third or second is a defeat for factory team anyway. So...

... we are waiting for a big fight between Bryan and Jan :)

[dimviii]

I think he will try. He has nothing to loose. He doesn't need points and third or second is a defeat for factory team anyway. So...

Lets see,anyway i was waiting more from a factory driver against privateers.

[EightGear]

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads6/50e814a62a41b/50e814a622338-2013-01-05_12-54-19_1.jpg

[stefanvv]

moment for Valousek

Tyres look completely wrong

[WUff1]

He will at least fight with Baumschlager, who is only 2,3 sec ahead.

[Mirek]

Lets see,anyway i was waiting more from a factory driver against privateers.

Jan never pushes away. If he is faster than others he is just controlling the situation. He almost never makes mistakes in that but once something happens he doesn't have the gap on others...


Tyres look completely wrong

They were completely wrong :)

[dimviii]

nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(8 - Harrach Beppo / Welsersheimb Leopold): Now the most important stages of the rally are coming. It will be full attack from us!

[Mintexmemory]

Stig for top 10? Looks like a complete tyre lottery!

[Mirek]

Kopecký 0,6 s/km faster now. That would be sure enough but let's see...

EDIT: And Kajto even faster!

Two main battles now for 1-2-3 and for 5-6 :)

[wwbroe]

Great time for Kajto, what a guy!!!

[Mirek]

There are already 7 different stage winners.

[had_zachau]

Delecour

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/320968_466920446702727_81550606_n.jpg

[Kielder]

Exciting double run to Bad Zell-Tragwein-Aisttal. Everything is possible on those 50 kms!

[Tom206wrc]

Would be so fantastic if Bouffier could win Jänner for his first outing there !!! :cool:

[Kielder]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307688_522672977754452_37214378_n.jpg

[Mirek]

One interesting point from Kopecký what he said in service. They broke spare differential on shakedown and the one they have now makes the car oversteering. I guess this one was meant for dry conditions? AFAIK FIA priority crews are allowed to have only one spare differential of each type.

[Jarek Z]

so can Harrach catch Kajto with 24,4 sec difference and 71 stage km more?

Maybe in your dreams! :D

[dupanton]

Are the points for the day atributed to the times of leg 2 too? Only leg 2 or total after leg 2 (wouldn't make sense here as that will be the same as the general classification). How many points are their for 1st-2nd etc?

[wwbroe]

Looks like great time for Beppo Harrach

[Mirek]

Leg bonus points are based on separate leg classification. Top 7 takes points for that: 7-6-5-4-3-2-1. Plus of course overall classification for top 10: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.

[dupanton]

Leg bonus points are based on separate leg classification. Top 7 takes points for that: 7-6-5-4-3-2-1. Plus of course overall classification for top 10: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.

Thanks Mirek. So a maximum of 39 points in this round?

[Bartek]

what a time for Kopecky!!!

Kajto lost 5 place

[Mirek]

Kopecký 14 seconds faster than Bouffier! Same gap in s/km as on previous one by the way (0,6).

[wwbroe]

what a time for Kopecky!!!

Yes, for sure, he needs only to make up 11 sec on last stage now.

[dimviii]

10,6 sec from Bouffier.Last stage will be nice!

[stefanvv]

Kopecky and Harrach are of full attack :)

EDIT: Harrach now ahead of Kajetanovicz ;)

[Mirek]

Harrach overtook Kajto.

[dimviii]

Maybe in your dreams! :D what did you said?

[Mintexmemory]

Kopecky and Harrach are of full attack :)
The question is do they have good tyres left?

[stefanvv]

The question is do they have good tyres left?

Service is now next

[Mirek]

Another duel to watch is Orsák and Černý.

[Mintexmemory]

Service is now next
Ok but do they have anything left to put on the wheels? Or will it be a windscreen wash only!

[Mirek]

Ok but do they have anything left to put on the wheels? Or will it be a windscreen wash only!

Unlike WRC there is no limit on tyres in ERC I think. Why Kronos doesn't have wet ones I don't know...

[stefanvv]

Ok but do they have anything left to put on the wheels? Or will it be a windscreen wash only!

Good qustion, probably the same for others, except that Kopecky had one less 'cause of puncture.

[Mintexmemory]

Unlike WRC there is no limit on tyres in ERC I think. Why Kronos doesn't have wet ones I don't know...
Thanks Mirek - so complete fresh set available for Kopecky? If that's the case he must be the winner!

[Jarek Z]

what did you said?

Ekhm... you must have misunderstood me or something... ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

As we got used with IRC, we can expect a thriller last stage on the premiere ERC event :)

[pantealex]

Leg bonus points are based on separate leg classification. Top 7 takes points for that: 7-6-5-4-3-2-1. Plus of course overall classification for top 10: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.

Rules says:

Top 5 of each leg

7-5-3-2-1

[pantealex]

and some sources says it is best 7 after leg

[Mirek]

I stand corrected. Thanks ;)

[muratgunarslan]

who will win? :confused:

[HaCo]

What a thrilling end!

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[Mirek]

Would You prefer to have splits for the last stage or to wait impatiently for the stage finish? I very much prefer the second. With splits I just don't feel the excitement.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All to play for on the final stage ! :eek:

This is partly why I love the ERC (IRC)... so many close battles for the win. :)

[stefanvv]

Would You prefer to have splits for the last stage or to wait impatiently for the stage finish? I very much prefer the second. With splits I just don't feel the excitement.

I just was wondering about the same. Sometimes is more thrilling to watch the splits though.

[dupanton]

Rules says:

Top 5 of each leg

7-5-3-2-1

What is correct now??
According to rally radio it 7-6-5-4-3-2-1 too...

[Crocone]

Great battles on the last stage:
Bouffier - Kopecky
Harrach - Kajetanowicz
Orsak - Cerny
Valousek - Tarabus

[Jarek Z]

Would You prefer to have splits for the last stage or to wait impatiently for the stage finish? I very much prefer the second. With splits I just don't feel the excitement.

Who the hell needs splits? It's the end results that matters! :)

You are not going to tell me that you need Virtual Spectator too, are you? :)

[Jarek Z]

Even if Kajto loses his well deserved 5th place to Harrach it was a great rally for the Polish champion! Well done Kajto!

[Tom206wrc]

Would You prefer to have splits for the last stage or to wait impatiently for the stage finish? I very much prefer the second. With splits I just don't feel the excitement.


I want some splits :mad:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS15 vid already up !


http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/list/id/1