Wrc Rallye France-Alsace 2012

[dimviii]

Atkinson so slow.....by the way all minis at Alsace are 1B versions

[GigiGalliNo1]

The coverage on Sport+ is off now, as other programs are on and SS8 is not Live. Check back online in two hours and it should be =)

[rallye-vid]

So far great rally. Only ~16 seconds between Seb and JM.

Not like some years before.. Loeb -> second driver 1-2 minutes after day one.

[stefanvv]

So far great rally. Only ~16 seconds between Seb and JM.

Not like some years before.. Loeb -> second driver 1-2 minutes after day one.

There are twisted battles between 3-4th & 5-6th also :D

[dimviii]

Arzenos 207....
http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552318_4779761980788_2115097901_n.jpg

[rallye-vid]

Yep, that too ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08uw7VG2Q5Q

[dimviii]

lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4Y1oBXCMAAMhCF.jpg:large

[clem126]

All French cars have starting number instead of the plate. I think that the French changed rules for competition cars this year and they don't get normal plates anymore.

That's right, since June, rally cars do not have licence plate anymore, only the starting number.
This rule is kind of a pain in the ass for rallyes like Ypres which run in belgium and france. French government wanted to stop cars at the border to make them take their licence plate off before entering France. The french part of the rally Organization had to negociate so that crews didnt had to take the licence plate off... (And put them back when leaving since licence plate are mendatory in belgium)

[dimviii]

he is hungry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4b6rGTCIAAT0ng.jpg:large

[kirungi okwogera]

I'm impressed with the Breen - Paddon battle now... I know the VW guys are blowing away the S2000 field, but they are factory remember. Manu to privateer gap is almost always significant.

The gap between Paddon and Breen would be pretty big if Paddon hadn't spun and lost like 16 seconds... in GB he even beat Ogier in three or four stages, once with a pretty big margin. But for a guy who's done like five tarmac rallies ever, he's pretty impressive to be beating Breen. These guys should be getting calls from the new manu's needing no. 2/3 drivers.

[SubaruNorway]

The coverage on Sport+ is off now, as other programs are on and SS8 is not Live. Check back online in two hours and it should be =)

SS8 is not live but it's live at the time that stage is on?? Is there a schedule anywhere?

[Mirek]

That's right, since June, rally cars do not have licence plate anymore, only the starting number.
This rule is kind of a pain in the ass for rallyes like Ypres which run in belgium and france. French government wanted to stop cars at the border to make them take their licence plate off before entering France. The french part of the rally Organization had to negociate so that crews didnt had to take the licence plate off... (And put them back when leaving since licence plate are mendatory in belgium)

That's funny :) Here in CZ we have special plates for rally cars. They look like xRx xxxx. The R is for competition cars. There are other similar plates of same scheme like with V for oldtimer cars.

[mousti]

Delay on SS8?

[vkangas]

Live TV air link broken.

[vkangas]

....can't be fixed, agh. So stage should run ok but no promised live coverage.

[Tofrallye29]

No SS8 live, the plane who send pictures have a problem ;)

[bf1_IRL]

TV link working here :/

/EDIT: Pictures from SS7 :| oops!

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Finns was so good today! GO Jari-Matti and Mikko.

[Mirek]

Anyone knows what happened to Arzeno?

[makinen_fan]

Anyone knows what happened to Arzeno?

he crashed, see post #260 by diimvii

[mousti]

Where could I get starting order for tomorrow?

[Mirek]

he crashed, see post #260 by diimvii

Thanks. That's big. Why they give him superally time on wrc.com? :)

[tolis]

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1017_4335637501470_1466639143_n.jpg

[makinen_fan]

wow! looks even more serious from this angle!
hope everyone is ok

[ProRally]

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1017_4335637501470_1466639143_n.jpg
big boo boo

[Rom1]

Some more pics from today: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527683_449954281713593_535135036_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527628_449954598380228_1197471075_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/304426_449956948379993_284617969_n.jpg

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_c1760fcfb9.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_d66bd17fd4.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_1b863f07fd.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_3b6fcd28a1.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_db3fb327f0.jpg



More photos from day 1 HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1090)

[titi_62]

For the 207 S2000 crashed, Matthieu Arzeno & Renaud Jamoul are OK.

Big moment for Sébastien Chardonnet today :
rallye de france wrc 2012 sebastien chardonnet limite limite es 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B-jWaa4u_fY)

[makinen_fan]

For the 207 S2000 crashed, Matthieu Arzeno & Renaud Jamoul are OK.

Big moment for Sébastien Chardonnet today :
rallye de france wrc 2012 sebastien chardonnet limite limite es 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B-jWaa4u_fY)

saved it just on the edge!

[titi_62]

Yep, he had to be cautious, 10th overall for his second race with a DS3 WRC, it's good !
He is supported by Daniel Elena and before he did the begining of WRChampionship 2012 with a DS3 R3 and he did Junior French Trophy with a twingo R1 in 2011.
Maybe not the quickest young french driver but very intelligent and regular.

[Rallyper]

He was about to loose the car, but in the last moment he stepped on it and saved the day....

[janvanvurpa]

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1017_4335637501470_1466639143_n.jpg


There's the problem: the wheels broke...hard to control a car when the wheels go where they want...

[Juha_Koo]

Ouch, looks nasty... Good to hear that both are okay.

Judging from a short onboard clips, crazy fast stages...! :eek:

[dimviii]

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/3236/imgp2769d.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img441/2664/imgp2789x.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img338/3935/imgp2840q.jpg

[dimviii]

http://imageshack.us/a/img255/7773/imgp3058.jpghttp://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/467185IMG0122.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img825/1415/imgp2979e.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1BHk0OuwXQ&feature=player_embedded

[dimviii]

http://nsa29.casimages.com/img/2012/10/05/121005094814256214.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374056_535097099839450_799063682_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/66342_421862261206774_1945922252_n.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfu0sFbIOxM&feature=player_embedded

[dimviii]

:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfdT7CaKmog&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[dimviii]

http://www.citroen-wrc.com/wp-content/gallery/france-2012/lr_044_loeb.jpghttp://www.citroen-wrc.com/wp-content/gallery/france-2012/lr_Attiyah11F12d042.jpghttp://www.citroen-wrc.com/wp-content/gallery/france-2012/lr_Chardonnet11F12d043.jpg

[dimviii]

192,8 km stages for Saturday!!

[Crocone]

It's strange that for this rally the cars doesn't have number plates.
L.E.: I saw the earlier posts and I understood that since June rally cars doesn't have number plates.

[stefanvv]

Another great day we'll watch the Rally live :D BTW it's on chaine 16/5 now

[bluuford]

Good morning from Russian Black Sea coast :-) Looks like weather is and will be nice for the morning stages. Sun is up and sky is clear. Any live link?

[stefanvv]

Good morning from Russian Black Sea coast :-) Looks like weather is and will be nice for the morning stages. Sun is up and sky is clear. Any live link?

.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/) - chaine 16 ;)

[stefanvv]

Solberg big off!!!

[stefanvv]

stopped!!!

[Carlo]

He was about to loose the car, but in the last moment he stepped on it and saved the day....

So what did you expect him to do? txt his mother and ask what he should do next, for goodness sake that is what any half decent race or rally driver would do.

[Mirek]

Solberg big off!!!

Tommeke_B just sent me sms that he is there...

[Langdale Forest]

solberg crashed

[6789]

stopped!!!

Damn hey, I wanted him to beat Mikko lol

[GigiGalliNo1]

Solberg OFF hit a lamp post!

[stefanvv]

Doesn't look good... crossed few vineyards and stopped in street lamp with steam vaporing from his Ford. I think he caused some trouble for the power company

[Bartek]

big lost for Sordo on this stage

[GigiGalliNo1]

Here is Video of Petter Solberg OFF

http://youtu.be/YHTgPCUU9E4

[stefanvv]

Here is Video of Petter Solberg OFF

Petter Solberg off in the vineyards WRC Rally de France 2012 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/YHTgPCUU9E4)

I think some spectator was saved by the tree there...

[J.Annala]

What the hell happened there? Seemed like Petter stayed flat out until he hit the post... Some spectators almost got electrocuted there.

[logic]

Looks like a stuck throttle.

[bluuford]

There is not much help of the brakes as well when you are with tarmac tires on the grass that is still wet from the night.

[René]

SS10 delayed for 15mn

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

Here is Video of Petter Solberg OFF

Petter Solberg goes off in the vineyards WRC Rally de France 2012 SS9 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/YHTgPCUU9E4)

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/3885316/480/Picture-Box/50168984.baseketball137om.gif?v0

Holy ****!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Live Broadcast NOW

.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/)

Chaine 16/Channel 16

JML Had an incident, it was VERY dark and he bounced back and forth. Some parts of stage, Loeb's vision is all dark too!

[Langdale Forest]

spectarors were lucky not to have been run over or electrocuted.

[Miika]

Game over for the win. Business as usual.

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Mikko is driving so well! Keep on going fast!

[stefanvv]

Ostberg 3rd time on SS10, fights Neuville now

[SubaruNorway]

Does anyone know what stages are live today?

[spiderem]

is ss11 delayed as well?

[stefanvv]

Does anyone know what stages are live today?

Here is some schedule - http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/153337-wrc-rallye-france-alsace-2012-a-8.html#post1070980

[leighton323]

What happened to oiger? Wasn't in this stage or the last stage?

[stefanvv]

What happened to oiger? Wasn't in this stage or the last stage?

Might be some glitch. He started SS9 on WRR at least ;)

[René]

Ambulance, doctor, cops, of incarceration, and 3 cars of firefighters are on crash of Al-Attiyah stage neutralised

[AP-Racing]

Big crash for nasser

[Tom206wrc]

Al Attiyah out and Chardonnet massive loss on that SS10 :mad:


Edit: GOSH !!!! I hope nothing serious for Al Attiyah and Bernacchini :s

[Kielder]

Here is some schedule - http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/153337-wrc-rallye-france-alsace-2012-a-8.html#post1070980

I copied it from here: WRC - Rallye de France Alsace (http://www.sportplus.fr/Evenements/2012_40/WRC-Rallye-de-France-Alsace)
They're broadcasting more than announced (the whole year was the opposite :D ).

[GigiGalliNo1]

Does anyone know what stages are live today?

All stages are LIVE on Sport+ in France which can be seen here:

.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/)

Click Chaine 16/Channel 16. In-between stages they broadcast other sports, now stage is cancelled but they normally stop showing after top 10 cars. Then when next stage is live it's back on TV

[Tom206wrc]

Why the hell no news about Al Attiyah crash and other things on the Live-Text of official WRC.COM website ??? :mad:

[Francis44]

And on WRC radio they were playing horrible pop music just a minute ago, embarassing.

[Rallyper]

So what did you expect him to do? txt his mother and ask what he should do next, for goodness sake that is what any half decent race or rally driver would do.

Calm down please. What he would have done? I´ll tell you:

Not stopped driving the car in the first place when he was surprised. A more experienced driver wouldn´t have been in that situation....

[Bartek]

heard that nasser is injured...

[Tom206wrc]

heard that nasser is injured...

Not too seriously me hopes :(

[Kielder]

Spectators were affected in the accident.

Edit: Two spectators were injured, they are aware but affected leg at kilometer 7.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Stage LIVE Now on TV

.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/)

Watch ^^^^^ Chanie 16/Channel 16

[Tom206wrc]

Spectators were affected in the accident.

Edit: Two spectators were injured, they are aware but affected leg at kilometer 7.


Thanks for the news...

[Blitzerflitzer]

Anybody know, why they start with 3 minutes?

[Tom206wrc]

By the way what happened to Chardonnet in that same SS10 :confused:

[Mauri A]

Game over for the win. Business as usual.
The Fat Lady hasn´t sung yet!

[Walach]

Anybody know, why they start with 3 minutes?

Maybe because of the broadcast?
Just my guess.

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Awesome time by Latvala. Max attack! GO GO.

[Blitzerflitzer]

Maybe. Is this start with this stage or did i didnt see that in the morning?

[Mirek]

Startlist says 2 min gaps. I think the longer time is to close time gap between cars stopped by Nasser's accident and those who came before normally.

[stefanvv]

Awesome time by Latvala. Max attack! GO GO.

Indeed. Avg speed record so far in the Rally - 128.6 km/h

[dimviii]

http://www.lalsace.fr/fr/images/c41d1e62-c7f8-4994-bfe6-f6a4c0cc5cb6/ALS_03/sortie-de-route-pour-le-norvegien-peter-solberg-photo-denis-werwer.jpghttp://www.lalsace.fr/fr/images/a3486dd4-ad12-4a42-aa39-786428190154/ALS_03/sortie-de-route-pour-le-norvegien-peter-solberg-photo-denis-werwer.jpghttp://www.lalsace.fr/fr/images/2ba11bd3-35c3-493d-bdf8-a25d489709ea/ALS_03/sortie-de-route-pour-le-norvegien-peter-solberg-photo-denis-werwer.jpg

[René]

Anybody know, why they start with 3 minutes?

to allow those who have been delayed by the off road of Al Attiyah to be back on the leader group.

[Kielder]

Sordo very disappointed with the car.

[Blitzerflitzer]

to allow those who have been delayed by the off road of Al Attiyah to be back on the leader group.

Ok, Thank you.

[6789]

Sordo very disappointed with the car.

Hopefully he gets something quicker next year. Nassers crash looked pretty big from the heli cam

[mousti]

Seems two spectators are injured at the crash of Nasser but were in a forbidden zone.. If I understand quite right.

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[dimviii]

http://www.lalsace.fr/fr/images/db07905b-9b34-4836-90a1-2295e61801da/ALS_03/sortie-de-route-pour-le-norvegien-peter-solberg-photo-denis-werwer.jpghttp://www.lalsace.fr/fr/images/95755846-772d-4851-b3e7-116932380eb9/ALS_03/sortie-de-route-pour-le-norvegien-peter-solberg-photo-denis-werwer.jpg

[r199]

By the way what happened to Chardonnet in that same SS10 :confused:

Chardonnet stoped on the Nasser crash site to help there (give first aid) Tweet from team citroen

[Walach]

Nasser
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg201/scaled.php?server=201&filename=nassser.jpg&res=landing

[bt52b]

If Petter didn't have bad luck, he'd have no luck at all!!!

[Kielder]

Hopefully he gets something quicker next year. Nassers crash looked pretty big from the heli cam

It's very sad to compare his times last year and now.
About Nasser's accident, now Citroen says that one spectator was injured in his leg and the other in his arm. A tragedy could also have happened when Solberg crashed. When I read about Nasser's one, I knew the spectators were in a forbidden zone.

[Mise]

This kind of tv programming should be ordered by the law in every WRC round.
I just hope they would put a split in the middle of the ss, have few cameras there and show every car
in that split. That way it would be more interesting to follow how the stage goes.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Broken specator leg and another one's arm by Nasser.

Nueville was 1 min late to TC11.

[Mirek]

If Petter didn't have bad luck, he'd have no luck at all!!!

I think he had quite a lot of luck today as nothing bad happened when the electric wires fell down...

[Kielder]

Hopefully he gets something quicker next year. Nassers crash looked pretty big from the heli cam

It's very sad to compare his times last year and now.
About Nasser's accident, now it's said that one was injured in his leg and the other in his arm. A tragedy could also have happened when Solberg crashed. When I read about the accident, I knew the spectators were in a forbidden zone.

[Astro83]

how to see the live tv from france!? :)

[mousti]

Broken specator leg and another one's arm by Nasser.

Nueville was 1 min late to TC11.

That explains why he was angry.. Quite big mistake when he's in a close fight with Dani and Mads.

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[dimviii]

Updated at 11:21. - Two spectators were slightly injured Saturday morning following the release of the Citroën DS3 road of Qatari Nasser Al-Attiyah during the 10th stage of the rally of France, 11th round of the world championship, announced the service Press the race.
"The two wounded suffer fractures, one to an arm, the other leg.They were taken by ambulance to a hospital. These are minor injuries, " said Chief Press Françoise Despierre.
Al-Attiyah left the road Raid Robache during the 10th special stage, the stage of the Pays d'Ormont. The circumstances of the accident were not specified. The driver Nasser Al-Attiyah is shocked.
Following the special was suspended. The best drivers have already completed the stage at the time of the incident;

A la Une | Rallye de France - Alsace (3e journée) : sortie de route d'Al Attiyah, des spectateurs touchés - L'Alsace (http://www.lalsace.fr/actualite/2012/10/06/rallye-de-france-alsace-(3e-journee)-sortie-de-route-d-al-attiyah-des-spectateurs-touches)

[OldF]

It takes a long time for the live broadcast to reach my computer. Mikko’s time for SS11 was on wrc.com’s split times (at the finish) but in the live broadcast he was still on the stage.

Bad for Nasser. He is also so positive and always smiling in interviews.

[Astro83]

OldF How do you get the live broadcast???????

[Kielder]

Bad for Nasser. He is also so positive and always smiling in interviews.

I really sorry for him and hope he passes the shock as fast as possible, what happened wasn't his fault.
I had a talk with him during last Rally of Portugal, really good person. As you say, always smiling, very kind.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Live stream back on: .: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/) Ch 16. :)


Solberg on-board ha ha ha -- 'Ughhhhh.... f~~k !!' :D

[Tom206wrc]

Very well done Sébastien Chardonnet on SS10 !!! :up:
I hope stewards will accord him another time for this action :rolleyes:

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InaK-NtBRvI&feature=player_embedded

[vkangas]

What is the difference between (channel?) 5 and 16?

[stefanvv]

Looks like throttling through vineyards :confused:

[René]

Stage 12 cancelled too much people

[Wittmanello]

Just saw Peter´s unfortunate accident - did his throttle get stuck?!

[Kielder]

SS12 canceled.

[6789]

Just saw the onboard replay of Petter's accident and it seems like they thought they were on the lower side of the road, not realising that they crossed the road. Is that was everyone got from it??

[René]

Petter Solberg summoned by race direction after his off road !

[pucky54]

Just saw the onboard replay of Petter's accident and it seems like they thought they were on the lower side of the road, not realising that they crossed the road. Is that was everyone got from it??

Yes, Chris was pointing to the front "...the road must be up there..." No guys, you already had crossed the road, unfortunate incident but very very lucky spectators

[Kielder]

Stage 12 cancelled too much people

The organization maybe has thought that two accidents this morning are enough. Some of these spectators are supposed to be in forbidden areas as well. Cancellations are the only way for some people to learn.

[stefanvv]

Just saw the onboard replay of Petter's accident and it seems like they thought they were on the lower side of the road, not realising that they crossed the road. Is that was everyone got from it??

Patterson was looking for it aside, but looks like missed it...

[Mintexmemory]

Very well done Sébastien Chardonnet on SS10 !!! :up:
I hope stewards will accord him another time for this action :rolleyes:

They should void the whole stage but they haven't under similar circumstances this year. Chardonnet should be declared man of the rally for his sportsmanship.

[Astro83]

Live stream back on: .: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/) Ch 16. :)


Solberg on-board ha ha ha -- 'Ughhhhh.... f~~k !!' :D


thank you man!!! :D

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

These problems tells something about france rally organisers. Something is wrong when people is not in right places and stage is on.

[smokin'joe]

Patterson was looking for it aside, but looks like missed it... pretty easy mistake to make when the windscreen is covered in grapevines.

[OldF]

OldF How do you get the live broadcast???????

You probably noticed the link in post #368

Some time tables.

WRC - Rallye de France Alsace (http://www.sportplus.fr/Evenements/2012_40/WRC-Rallye-de-France-Alsace)

http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/153337-wrc-rallye-france-alsace-2012-a-8.html#post1070980

[Mirek]

These problems tells something about france rally organisers. Something is wrong when people is not in right places and stage is on.

There are always people on wrong places even in Finland they are. The question is how many of such cases are and how much bad luck is in the air...

[Astro83]

You probably noticed the link in post #368

Some time tables.

WRC - Rallye de France Alsace (http://www.sportplus.fr/Evenements/2012_40/WRC-Rallye-de-France-Alsace)

http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/153337-wrc-rallye-france-alsace-2012-a-8.html#post1070980



No, but Thank you! :)

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Well. This time these things are quite good lesson. France rally organisers doesn´t do their job when these happend. Too much people in wrong places and bad luck or good luck talk is bull****.

[smokin'joe]

Well. This time these things are quite good lesson. France rally organisers doesn´t do their job when these happend. Too much people in wrong places and bad luck or good luck talk is bull****.
and have you ever stood in a marginal place to get a better veiw of the action??

[dimviii]

Prokops rim after stage 11
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4g4yypCcAEuGiX.jpg

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

and have you ever stood in a marginal place to get a better veiw of the action??

No. But are we talking about me or this France rally in this topic?

[smokin'joe]

No. But are we talking about me or this France rally in this topic?
you, actually, you are claiming it is an organisational problem.
i know i have been in marginal veiwing spots, but that was a risk i was prepared to take to get a better view. there are good safe veiwing spots, marginal ones and plain stupid ones. likewise good and bad luck can occur at any of them.


rally cars are unpredictable....end of story

[Mirek]

Well. This time these things are quite good lesson. France rally organisers doesn´t do their job when these happend. Too much people in wrong places and bad luck or good luck talk is bull****.

Same bull**** is to speak like You without having any real information about what actually happened and how. It's very easy to spit on others work on the internet...

[Rallyper]

Same bull**** is to speak like You without having any real information about what actually happened and how. It's very easy to spit on others work on the internet...

Though, spectators in wrong places for sure is more common in the south of Europe WRC-events than compared to NORF.

[AP-Racing]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190256_10151111610908952_611320343_n.jpg

[MartijnS]

Stage 12 is really difficult to control the spectators, vineyard stages without walls next to the stage like in Germany for example, so everybody stands between the plants really close to the cars. No overview from any point..

Last years they always let police with horses clean the stage before it ran, but when they left everybody got back into their positions offcourse.

[logic]

WRC 2012 France Solberg Crash On Board - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuOOdKQYi7s)

Ok no stuck throttle , he just kept his foot in it.

[cali]

Same bull**** is to speak like You without having any real information about what actually happened and how. It's very easy to spit on others work on the internet...
I have him on my ignore list, but occasionally someone is quoting him and I can see these idiotic posts again. I should've scrolled down faster ;)

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Canceling is right way to do, if organisers cant handle the issue they have to cancel stage like ss12. Good.

[dimviii]

Nasser
http://www.lalsace.fr/fr/images/aceb6474-d6f2-40eb-a693-643536f20a03/ALS_03/la-citroen-ds3-accidentee-du-qatari-nasser-al-attiyah-photo-jean-marc-loos.jpghttp://www.lalsace.fr/fr/images/4f4583cc-71d3-45f2-8180-43ee7783f640/ALS_03/la-citroen-ds3-accidentee-du-qatari-nasser-al-attiyah-photo-jean-marc-loos.jpghttp://www.lalsace.fr/fr/images/41e0d5e0-2b1d-42f2-af71-bb3674f63190/ALS_03/la-citroen-ds3-accidentee-du-qatari-nasser-al-attiyah-photo-jean-marc-loos.jpg

[Juha_Koo]

SS11 JM's average speed 127,9 km/h... Damn!

Did Neuville get a 10 sec penalty? Because I can't see it anywhere.

[dimviii]

http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8321/8056587322_34beba298a_b.jpghttp://farm9.static.flickr.com/8034/8056587053_a0de910344_b.jpghttp://farm9.static.flickr.com/8454/8056587201_57766397a3_b.jpg

[dimviii]

http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8313/8056586773_1890c05696_b.jpghttp://farm9.static.flickr.com/8178/8056586641_da946ef9df_b.jpghttp://farm9.static.flickr.com/8320/8056587748_8fcc0c140b_b.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Will SS13 start with 15mn lateness :confused:

[makinen_fan]

Which channel shows it now? Chaine 15? Picture shows but no sound for me. Anyone else have same prob?

[Mirek]

Though, spectators in wrong places for sure is more common in the south of Europe WRC-events than compared to NORF.

That is true but we speak about particular situation in Rally Alsace which only people being there know so we shall not generalize too much.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Which channel shows it now? Chaine 15? Picture shows but no sound for me. Anyone else have same prob?

Live pics - can hear the helicopter...

[Kielder]

Now it works perfectly.

[stefanvv]

SS11 JM's average speed 127,9 km/h... Damn!

WRR said little more, calc mistake probably


Did Neuville get a 10 sec penalty? Because I can't see it anywhere.

No, why? On SS11 he had just little half spin on very wide corner, but didn't seemed to loose too much there. On SS10 though he had full one on some some corner, lost about 8-9 secs there...

[dimviii]

chanell 15 mates works perfect
.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/)

[makinen_fan]

yes works fine!

[Kielder]

Beautiful German stage!

[Bartek]

I love this stage ! From corner to corner, very tricky

[makinen_fan]

splits in live tv are not consistent with wrc.com

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML faster at split 3 & 4 !! :)

[vkangas]

Great live broadcast. Would pay gladly to get higher quality and english commentators.

[stefanvv]

Hirvonen looks like pushing or something :confused:

[GigiGalliNo1]

Seen few angles of the Solberg crash, crazy stuff people. And those spectators are lucky that they didn't a. get zapped from power line b. get hit by the car c. have a powerline fall on them!

[xavier]

Beautiful German stage!

I know Solberg went quite far from the road, but I do not think he crossed the border :)

[dimviii]

Hirvonen looks like pushing or something :confused:

said that he will put some pressure Latvala at evening stages

[Barreis]

Nice live show.

[dimviii]

nice time from Novikov

[MartijnS]

Before the stages there were some fights between spectators and the police at stage 13.

[dimviii]

Before the stages there were some fights between spectators and the police at stage 13.

wtf?!!

[Kielder]

I know Solberg went quite far from the road, but I do not think he crossed the border :)

:)
I'm not going to ask to quit a tarmac rally from the calendar, although share an event between Germany and Alsace (like Sweden with Norwegian stages) would be more common sense than keep two events quite similar. There are worldwide many countries to run an event (even more now with the fusion of IRC & ERC).
Most of this stages have articifial obstacles. That's not rallying.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Before the stages there were some fights between spectators and the police at stage 13.

Ah, the French :D

[dimviii]

“All the driving before was absolutely perfect,” said Solberg, who won the FIA World Rally Championship title in 2003. “I knew the road was going up on the right again but there were leaves on the windscreen and I couldn’t see. From the outside it looks like ‘why don’t I brake’ but I knew the approximate distance and I was waiting for an open area. I went more on the throttle to get back up to the road again so I don’t get stuck but that’s obviously the decision you take in a split second.”
Solberg continued: “I didn’t know it was an electric pole I hit, I thought it was a normal pole. It was a big hit and we broke a steering arm and a TCA. Obviously when you look at the pictures it’s unbelievable. For sure something happened and obviously I have to look with Chris what happened because we are a team but nothing broke on the car.”

World Rally Championship - News - France crash mystifies Solberg (http://www.wrc.com/news/france-crash-mystifies-solberg/?fid=17603)

[dimviii]

Thierry Neuville has been given a 20-second penalty for late arrival at SS11 this morning dropping him down to 6th behind Ostberg

[Tom206wrc]

SS14 cancelled or not :confused:

[makinen_fan]

It's live, MH is in ss as well

[Astro83]

is the next live tv on at 16.10 on sport ch 16??

[René]

is the next live tv on at 16.10 on sport ch 16??

it's live on the channel 15

.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/)

[dimviii]

rumors that 2 men hit by Nasser were drunk

[Mauri A]

rumors that 2 men hit by Nasser were drunk

Just like in Finland

[Astro83]

it's live on the channel 15

.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/)
thanks !!! :)

[Miika]

Yea but here in Finland we have that thing called luck of the drunk. Meaning, nothing bad can happen to you while you´re drunk.

[Astro83]

is it always ch 15 or do they switch all the time??

[dimviii]

just saw Novikovs moment on a u turn.Lucky guy!

[mousti]

They switched often. Big moment for Novikov at the end of SS 14! And leaves the stage with brakes on fire

[dimviii]

is it always ch 15 or do they switch all the time??

yes chanell 15

[Astro83]

just saw Novikovs moment on a u turn.Lucky guy!

yea he was very lucky! Was very close to the tree... :O

[Tom206wrc]

Game over for Maurin apparently :mark:
But he was so off the pace compared to Chardonnet who debutes in WRC car :eek:

[Astro83]

yes chanell 15


Ok thanks! even tomorrow?

**** that I miss this!! Had love so follow all the stages live. Very good thing and THANK YOU FRENCH GUYS FOR THIS LIVE TV!!!! really good and cool!! ;) ;)

Whant Sordo to speed up now, but it's the Mini who not have enough speed I think compered to the DS3 and Fiesta sadly...

[dimviii]

hierry Neuville (DS3), penalized twenty seconds for a score late in the ES12 at the 3rd day of the Rally of France, was "angry" with his co-pilot, he explained to a few reporters Saturday." We are fighting (for a podium) with the best and then stupidly lost twenty seconds because of error copilot (Nicolas Gilsoul, ed.) I am sorry. Frankly, I'm tired , "is Neuville angry, very angry during the lunch break.
This sanction cost two places in Neuville, who was the fourth rally Saturday mid-day to 1 min 23 sec leader Sebastien Loeb before downgrade in sixth place because of the twenty-second penalty.
" In terms of control, this rally is going very well, although I have sometimes been too cautious. foolishly But if we lose time, it is not possible. What has happened? Go and ask him , "he said, pointing Thierry Neuville and his copilot compatriot Nicolas Gilsoul.
Neuville, 24, who is part of the Citroen Junior Team, competes for one of its best rally since the beginning of the season, his first in the WRC.
Revenge after his penalty, Thierry Neuville was third time SS13 early afternoon, four tenths of seconds of the scratch made by Finns Jari-Matti Latvala and Mikko Hirvonen.
Neuville, pénalisé, fâché sur Nicolas Gilsoul, son copilote - RTBF Moteurs (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_neuville-penalise-fache-sur-nicolas-gilsoul-son-copilote?id=7851218)

[dimviii]

Ok thanks! even tomorrow?

we will see!

[dupanton]

hierry Neuville (DS3), penalized twenty seconds for a score late in the ES12 at the 3rd day of the Rally of France, was "angry" with his co-pilot, he explained to a few reporters Saturday." We are fighting (for a podium) with the best and then stupidly lost twenty seconds because of error copilot (Nicolas Gilsoul, ed.) I am sorry. Frankly, I'm tired , "is Neuville angry, very angry during the lunch break.
This sanction cost two places in Neuville, who was the fourth rally Saturday mid-day to 1 min 23 sec leader Sebastien Loeb before downgrade in sixth place because of the twenty-second penalty.
" In terms of control, this rally is going very well, although I have sometimes been too cautious. foolishly But if we lose time, it is not possible. What has happened? Go and ask him , "he said, pointing Thierry Neuville and his copilot compatriot Nicolas Gilsoul.
Neuville, 24, who is part of the Citroen Junior Team, competes for one of its best rally since the beginning of the season, his first in the WRC.
Revenge after his penalty, Thierry Neuville was third time SS13 early afternoon, four tenths of seconds of the scratch made by Finns Jari-Matti Latvala and Mikko Hirvonen.
Neuville, pénalisé, fâché sur Nicolas Gilsoul, son copilote - RTBF Moteurs (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_neuville-penalise-fache-sur-nicolas-gilsoul-son-copilote?id=7851218)

Really a shame, I hope they don't split up after this "fight"... On the other hand, Neuville made them loose 20s as well, with the double spin they had yesterday...

[dimviii]

Really a shame, I hope they don't split up after this "fight"... On the other hand, Neuville made them loose 20s as well, with the double spin they had yesterday...

so true..

[René]

Really a shame, I hope they don't split up after this "fight"... On the other hand, Neuville made them loose 20s as well, with the double spin they had yesterday...


This kind of comments live on radio or TV is appalling. He needs an audience to speak with his codriver? Another Ogier, they think with their balls, their brain are used only to drive. Pfffffffff

[Astro83]

what happend with live tv ch 15??

[EightGear]

Neuville should not cry, he made 8749238 mistakes already this season himself.

[Rallyper]

This kind of comments live on radio or TV is appalling. He needs an audience to speak with his codriver? Another Ogier, they think with their balls, their brain are used only to drive. Pfffffffff

What should he say? It´s not for nothing he is where he is.

He has fighting spirit and that was showed after the penalty. Nothing else.

For sure they are fellows in the car after that.

[Astro83]

Neuville should not cry, he made 8749238 mistakes already this season himself.

I agree, It's sad that he say like he did. It's not professional...
They are a team!

[Negaiss]

It's now on channel 3

[RJM]

Its on channel 3 now

[SubaruNorway]

Live stream not working for me either

[Negaiss]

what happend with live tv ch 15??
It's now on channel 3

[Astro83]

Thanks!! Hate that they switch ch all the time :P

[Langdale Forest]

How do you get that channel to work?

[René]

How do you get that channel to work?

YYCast (http://www.yycast.com/sporteam3)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Live streaming on Chaine 3 now/Channel 3 now

[Langdale Forest]

YYCast (http://www.yycast.com/sporteam3)

Dosen't work.

[Juha_Koo]

hierry Neuville (DS3), penalized twenty seconds for a score late in the ES12 at the 3rd day of the Rally of France, was "angry" with his co-pilot, he explained to a few reporters Saturday." We are fighting (for a podium) with the best and then stupidly lost twenty seconds because of error copilot (Nicolas Gilsoul, ed.) I am sorry. Frankly, I'm tired , "is Neuville angry, very angry during the lunch break.
This sanction cost two places in Neuville, who was the fourth rally Saturday mid-day to 1 min 23 sec leader Sebastien Loeb before downgrade in sixth place because of the twenty-second penalty.
" In terms of control, this rally is going very well, although I have sometimes been too cautious. foolishly But if we lose time, it is not possible. What has happened? Go and ask him , "he said, pointing Thierry Neuville and his copilot compatriot Nicolas Gilsoul.
Neuville, 24, who is part of the Citroen Junior Team, competes for one of its best rally since the beginning of the season, his first in the WRC.
Revenge after his penalty, Thierry Neuville was third time SS13 early afternoon, four tenths of seconds of the scratch made by Finns Jari-Matti Latvala and Mikko Hirvonen.
Neuville, pénalisé, fâché sur Nicolas Gilsoul, son copilote - RTBF Moteurs (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_neuville-penalise-fache-sur-nicolas-gilsoul-son-copilote?id=7851218)

Interesting to see will they continue together, I was wondering what was up when watching a segment of an onboard from Friday and in something like two minutes, Neuville had to continuously ask for more pacenotes to be delivered. ( World Rally Championship - Video - Onboards - Rally France: On-board with Thierry Neuville (http://www.wrc.com/video/onboards/rally-france-on-board-with-thierry-neuville/?vid=2667) )

Codriver is only remembered when he makes a mistake... Shame really.

[vkangas]

Dosen't work.
.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/) works fine for me with Firefox but not with Internet Exploder...

[Astro83]

Dosen't work.

You need to login with FaceBook... I forced my girlfriend to use hers... I dont have one... :)

[vkangas]

You need to login with FaceBook... I forced my girlfriend to use hers... I dont have one... :)

No you don't, just click "I don't have facebook" or something like that...

[skarderud]

Or just use the "i don't have a Facebook account" button in the bottom :)
now its comercial and tennis to, in french.zzzz :)

[Astro83]

No you don't, just click "I don't have facebook link".

Okey?? haha.. That news to me but I learning all the time... :) Thanks to you guys ;)

Great that Lappi won in Sweden today ah? Vkangas ;)

[mstfozkan]

what happend rally ? klenever2 isnt live ?

[Astro83]

what happend rally ? klenever2 isnt live ?

The stage has not start yet ;)

[mstfozkan]

thank you.i didnt realize

[mousti]

Pontus lost two minutes on SS14
-" The car stopped around 15 times on the stage, some electronical problem I think. #wrcacademy #rallyfrance

[Astro83]

Pontus lost two minutes on SS14
-" The car stopped around 15 times on the stage, some electronical problem I think. #wrcacademy #rallyfrance

That's ****! He has no luck! No luck for PG either... :(

[mousti]

Not good news from Mikkelsen also..

@AMikkelsenRally (https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally)
The engine is running on 3-cylinders so we are losing time. Good practise to keep up the speed ... Hopefully we get back to service!

[bluuford]

Novikov had a huuge moment on the last part of the stage. When Atkinson came, then his lines were clearly visible :-)

[Astro83]

Good stage time from Novikov! Really good, 0.2 after Loeb! That's really good!

[DIMI44]

Boring stage....Bravo to Novikov.....

[rallye-sport]

Saturday update -> Photos Rallye de France-Alsace 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-de-france-alsace-2012/)


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/france-alsace-2012/img_7109.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/france-alsace-2012/img_7195.jpg

[andyone]

.: Sport TEAM :. (http://www.sport-team.org/) works fine for me with Firefox but not with Internet Exploder...
i only see people throwing metal balls.. on the channel 3

[Astro83]

i only see people throwing metal balls.. on the channel 3


The last stage for today has ended, or the live tv has.. only send the first 8 cars!

[GigiGalliNo1]

LIVE Coverage finishes after the top 10 finish on the stage... day is over for Live TV guys :)

[-sean-]

I can't believe I have spent all of these years trying to follow the WRC on US based forums :rolleyes:

Anyway, good job Elfyn Evans Evans!

[Rallyper]

I can't believe I have spent all of these years trying to follow the WRC on US based forums :rolleyes:

Anyway, good job Elfyn Evans Evans!

Welcome to the WRC-world, Sean!

[GigiGalliNo1]

hahahah

WRC on USA forums.....

hahahaha

[-sean-]

hahahah

WRC on USA forums.....

hahahaha

exactly!

[janvanvurpa]

I can't believe I have spent all of these years trying to follow the WRC on US based forums :rolleyes:

Anyway, good job Elfyn Evans Evans!

Hi Sean, which Sean are you? Where you at? hang around a while, there's some good characters here. watch out for the Finns though, they're almost all tricky fellows---very tongue in cheek....

I don't know how many Seans i know in just West Coast rally, but maybe you're one.

[Astro83]

exactly!


You need to move to europe man! ;)
Sadly USA dont have a WRC-event yet but it will probably never happens because of the cost for all of the wrc-teams...

But now with RedBull as new promotor, we never know... ;)

But don't follow the WRC from US-forums, its not so good, I think. You guys only speak about Indy and Nascar over there.. ;)
But Nascar is cool but rally is the ****! ;)

[-sean-]

Hi Sean, which Sean are you? Where you at? hang around a while, there's some good characters here. watch out for the Finns though, they're almost all tricky fellows---very tongue in cheek....

I don't know how many Seans i know in just West Coast rally, but maybe you're one.

Denver, CO... born and raised in SoCal. I've been a huge WRC fan since the early 90's but as you well know there is not biggest following for the best drivers in the world here in the US and it was not easy to follow the WRC back in the day without the use of the internet.


You need to move to europe man! ;)
Sadly USA dont have a WRC-event yet but it will probably never happens because of the cost for all of the wrc-teams...

But now with RedBull as new promotor, we never know... ;)

But don't follow the WRC from US-forums, its not so good, I think. You guys only speak about Indy and Nascar over there.. ;)
But Nascar is cool but rally is the ****! ;)

Actually it's great as long as you consider Block to be the best driver on the planet. :dozey:

As far as a round of the WRC here in the states, I'm not seeing it anytime soon. Maybe if we ever get a good TV deal to happen on a channel that most people actually get/watch then maybe we can start to develop a decent fan base.

US motorsports= EXTREME or turn left, that pretty much sums up the mentality.

[Astro83]

Sean: How big is the rallysport in the states if you think of all the motorsports, Nascar-Indy-Motorcross and so on??? I have always wonder...

My own reflection is that many "rallyfans" in US only follow Ken Block and his rally events over there and rallycross and so on and as you say, think of him as just the greatest driver in the whole world. And that's not the case as you absolutly know ;)

They need to open their eyes and see the real sport of rally and not his stunt movies ;)

Don't get me wrong, I like Block very much, he is a really fun and skilled driver and business man in the motorsport family. He really is a fun guy and I hope he will compete in all WRC-events for 2013! It's even good for the sport.

But I have always wonder how big the sport really is in US...

[Gregor-y]

Rally in the US is 1/3 kids brought in by Travis Pastrana and Ken Block, 2/3 codgers over 50 that have been involved in events back to the 70s when it was easy to enter just about any car with few rules and a handful of people like me that bought an Impreza (before or just after the turbo was made available) and found out about rallying from online forums during the sport compact craze in the 90s.

[janvanvurpa]

Sean: How big is the rallysport in the states if you think of all the motorsports, Nascar-Indy-Motorcross and so on??? I have always wonder...

My own reflection is that many "rallyfans" in US only follow Ken Block and his rally events over there and rallycross and so on and as you say, think of him as just the greatest driver in the whole world. And that's not the case as you absolutly know ;)

They need to open their eyes and see the real sport of rally and not his stunt movies ;)

Don't get me wrong, I like Block very much, he is a really fun and skilled driver and business man in the motorsport family. He really is a fun guy and I hope he will compete in all WRC-events for 2013! It's even good for the sport.

But I have always wonder how big the sport really is in US...


Hejsan Astro, I can tell you that in terms of participation, its not even like a good KM dvs Klubb Mästerskap rally därborta.
DM events here might get 20 cars, sometimes 30-35. If they call it a ''Amerikanskij Champignonskit'' event like we just had last week up here in the beautiful Pacific Northwest, they had maybe 60 cars... There are 2 teams with utterly absurd and pointless budgets, Monster and Subaru, a few with just stupid budgets and then the rest with prep and skills about like a first or second year C driver in Sweden..,. in the last 10 years many events have half the fieed in various lightly built and mostly poorly driven Subarus, the rest 20 year old Golf, Honda, various things.....
A friend who I sorta am sponsor to said the Monster mechanics, all English were swarming around his car because it is a very well built US version Sierra. They said they went to mount and adjust lights and went down some väg-stump, smacked some rocks and banged the kevlar sump guard, so it was a $15,000 light test.. That is insane to beat a few guys in garage built Subarus. In a way it reflects the US society: there's the 1% and then there's the rest.

Plenty of people stare at you-tube but theres never more than a couple of hundred speccies in the woods..

Nationwide in this country of 312 million there are maybe 300 people that might enter an event in a year..

So we're special, we're one in a million. I remember reading a few years ago that there was a list of official scrutineers for folkrace i Sverige and there were about 1200 names on the list...

The emphasis is on, like everything in America, the appearance, and "status"....Shiny cars, shiny suits , lots of graphics, spend lots of money---and some guys on SS speed are averaging about 65 km/hr where Block might be averaging 115 km/hr...
But trust me, those boys will argue about "the indispensability of Left Foot Braking" (at 65 km/hr) and argue about "the burning need for good pace notes"

And discuss at length which on board video camera is the best..

One word is best: Larv

More than 25 years I point my friends and strangers too to Grupp H and your neighbors great series F-cup----and now in the last few years it seems there is a change and more and more guys are going back and building simpler, mostly rwd cars that they can afford to run for more than a season or maybe 2 before dropping out and disappearing...

(I build suspension for rally cars and some brake kits, and build motors (1 National Chamionship to my motors, a few Regional titles, and a record that every Saab that has ever won a US National round in our equivalent of Grupp F was full of all my parts, all 3 ... so I'm in touch with lots of people all over USA and Canada. )

And there is absolutely no clubb or volunteer numbers to support a EM rally much less a VM.

[janvanvurpa]

Rally in the US is 1/3 kids brought in by Travis Pastrana and Ken Block, 2/3 codgers over 50 that have been involved in events back to the 70s when it was easy to enter just about any car with few rules and a handful of people like me that bought an Impreza (before or just after the turbo was made available) and found out about rallying from online forums during the sport compact craze in the 90s.


Naw, most of the coders over 50 began in the 80s....I know them... wait! You tricky bastid! I'm one!

[Astro83]

The only battle in this rally, Östberg vs Sordo vs Neuville...
Who do you think is going to take the 4th place?? I think that Neuville will take it but I really hope for Sordo. Sadly the Mini is not so fast this year, so this will be Neuville's time!

I dont think that Östberg will have the pace on tarmac to hold Neuville off...

[Astro83]

Så du är svensk!??! :) Okej, och tack för ett mycket ingående och bra svar! Vad gör du där borta, har du bott där länge?

Thank you for a good answear! No I understand how it's working in US and can stop to "wonder"... ;)

[-sean-]

Sean: How big is the rallysport in the states if you think of all the motorsports, Nascar-Indy-Motorcross and so on??? I have always wonder...


The above few post sum it up very well... better than I could. It's sad to say the least.
Anyway, sorry for the hijack guys. GO MIKKO!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

'Evans wins WRC Academy ! Elfyn Evans reaches the end of Stage 16 and claims the 2012 WRC Academy title.'

Great news to have a Brit win the Academy after the Irish (Breen) won last year. Hope Evans gets a good drive next year and eventually makes the IRC or WRC. We need a top Brit after so long since Burns / McRae. Go Evo !!

[Kielder]

Not the fastest, although...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WUjNEgRnOrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WUjNEgRnOrQ

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_7961d86850.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_30a1df38af.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_b3d95da5e2.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_bb5917008c.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1090/1090_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2012_b7021fa880.jpg



More photos from day 2 HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1090)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Craig Breen ‏@Craig_Breen (https://twitter.com/Craig_Breen) Huge congrats to Elfyn Evans and Phil Pugh on winning the WRC Academy today, really proud and I'm sure Jaff is smiling down on them....


Motorsport News ‏@MNRally (https://twitter.com/MNRally) We're often asked where Britain's next #WRC (https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23WRC&src=hash) star is. We've often answered 'Elfyn Evans'. Let's hope he gets support to get to next level

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-hHnOGJQo&feature=g-u-u

[Allyc85]

Craig Breen ‏@Craig_Breen (https://twitter.com/Craig_Breen) Huge congrats to Elfyn Evans and Phil Pugh on winning the WRC Academy today, really proud and I'm sure Jaff is smiling down on them....


Motorsport News ‏@MNRally (https://twitter.com/MNRally) We're often asked where Britain's next #WRC (https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23WRC&src=hash) star is. We've often answered 'Elfyn Evans'. Let's hope he gets support to get to next level

Chuffed to bits for Elfyn and Phil, brilliant :D

[OldF]

The above few post sum it up very well... better than I could. It's sad to say the least.
Anyway, sorry for the hijack guys. GO MIKKO!

Vurpan always mention the F-group or F-Cup with F-group cars. I don’t know but by the name Vurpan, maybe he used to drive whit the style like in the video. Eller hur?

III ValUA Talviralli, Valkeala (F-Cup) 3.3.2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8VXfEhXZQE)

Btw Vurpan, can you guess which car was on the introduction page of 1970 of the 1970-1974 1000 lakes book I got this week?

F-Cup homepage:
Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f-cup.fi%2F)

Homepage of Jent TV that’s as far as I know makes the F-Cup programs.
Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jent.fi%2Fpages%2Fstartti%2Fuut iset.php)


The videos didn’t work on Google translated pages so it’s better to watch them here.
Jent Motorsport Video - Netti-TV (http://www.jent.fi/pages/netti-tv.php)

[janvanvurpa]

Så du är svensk!??! :) Okej, och tack för ett mycket ingående och bra svar! Vad gör du där borta, har du bott där länge?

Thank you for a good answear! No I understand how it's working in US and can stop to "wonder"... ;)

Nej Astro jag är inte svensk, jag är halv-Amerikansk , och resten lite av varje. Finnarna här säger jag är ''heder finsk'' men att jag svära för mycket på svenska o inte tillräckligt på finska.. :arrows: . Jag pratade förr i tiden massor av språk, läser nästan allting, nu lite rostig med allt inklusiv ''mer-kun''.

Bodde därborta fär 6-7 år när jag lädre mig att gassa hojar på moto-cross banor först runt hela Sverige (utan Skåne= och sen för 2 säsonger runt hela Europa. Hemma klubb var AMF Södertälje, bodde mest runt Söder i Stockholm senare i vildmarken långt långt norr av stan där dom snackar eskimo eller lapp eller nåt i Upplands-Väsby..
Nästan hela 70 talet var jag där eller på väg ditåt.

Mais aussi 2 ans en France! Cher France!

Nu byggar jag rally grejor ungefär som Janne SellhomÖ fjädring, bromsar, motorer, vxlådor...Du kan Google JVAB eller JVAB Sooper Bitchin och se massor av bilder...

Stuff almost nobody here knows about..

And I am what do you call it_? Profet? Agitator. that's it!.. I say VM or MM (for our Finnish colleagues) is cool, but we can't just watch it and runka, and do nothing, we need to build a system of clubs, and start from the ground up....

Oh we better be careful, I get yelled at if we type in what I thought was just a dialect of Northern English but they say is a "foreign" language,

Oh yeah to make this WRC related before they spank us:

Definately has been a lot of changes in the world and in rally (and moto-cross) since then, poor ol Sweden getting kicked and stomped medvetlöst is one thing, i can accept that, they just are tougher and better, but Sweden slapped around by Norge.....I still have a hard time accepting that.. At least Petter married a nice girl from Sweden. That is, if you consider Varmland to be Sweden.....

Stackars Petter!

Anybody have any answer what happened?
I think the cars are fly-by-wire, but knocking down the power pole it could have been fry-by-wire.

[kirungi okwogera]

Sounds like he gassed it thinking he'd meet the road relatively straight on and be able to continue/regain control, but the windscreen filled with vines ("wine goggles"?) and he and Chris both missed the moment where they crossed the road... ending up knocking over a power pole like he did in NZ on the final stage. Power companies must love Petter.

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1oUrOXwUBA&feature=player_embedded