WRC3

[Plan9]

For your Information, Blackbean Is no longer envolved with WRC3. Milestone Is both developer & publisher ;)

My bad. Still; do you know if the cars will have more obvious differences in performance? The 01A and 01B seem to be very different cars...

[bennizw]

New screenshots of Rally Sweden and Rally Mexico on their facebook page now.

[lcd]

Αmazing natural panoramic depth of field and new replay camera angles!

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4587/40283649676066701929989.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/214/40283649676066701929989.jpg/)


http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6392/55393549675850368618212.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/55393549675850368618212.jpg/)

More here: WRC the Game | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/wrcthegame)

[Bruce D]

Both those screens are Mexico. This looks amazing.

[Astro83]

Hey! New on this forum! I would love to se the shots from Sweden?? I dont have FB.
Wrc 3 looks graphichal very good! Just have nervs about physics and the real realism..

Plz fix the Rally Sweden shots! :)

[bennizw]

To be honest, the screenshots from Sweden look very much the same as in last years and the very first game. No improvement on the stage design there. Mexico does however look very interesting!

[Astro83]

To be honest, the screenshots from Sweden look very much the same as in last years and the very first game. No improvement on the stage design there. Mexico does however look very interesting!

They need to bring Rally Sweden to new life like all the rallys! They can't let any of the rallys untoutch.
Because WRC and WRC 2 is so so boring and not like rally at all. These games and stages can they not be proud of!
They need to update the graphics and stages in all countris to the realese in oct!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Maybe widen the stages in Sweden with the hard banks!! Soften them a bit!

I don't care for these "screen shots" because that is not what we are going to see when playing! Unless you just want to watch replays all the time!

Physical car driving shots and videos are what I want to see!!!

[Astro83]

Absolutly but the screenshots says à bit of what the game is going to look like! And the graphic is one big thing but as you say, physics and realism is the biggest and most important!!

But à would love to see the screens of Sweden. Can someone please help me? I dont have FB!! :)

[lcd]

Here they are ;) I have to agree wih Benniz. Sadly, looks like nothing has changed from last year.
I wished Sweden and Finland were In the new stages pack so badly.
btw, those screenshots are not rendered, show they reflect In a way, the progress made so far.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/778/25554149676116035258320.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/25554149676116035258320.jpg/)

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2152/29468249676181035251879.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/29468249676181035251879.jpg/)

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5769/37682049676201701916432.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/37682049676201701916432.jpg/)

[lcd]

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8651/53890349676145035255410.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/53890349676145035255410.jpg/)

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By the way, welcome to motorsportforums and simulations section Astro83 :)

[Astro83]

Thank you very much man!! :) yes SADLY nothing is change this year in Sweden. BUT I really hope that Finland is, because that rally was soooo ****ing lame and unreal in WRC 2. I really hope that Finland is like in Dirt 3 but even better whith both tight and wide roads!! Then we have to wait to WRC 4 to have it all changed, they want to do longer and satelitefoto stages for next year like they been saying so WRC 4 will be awesome I think!

Iv only been playing RBR since 2004 and WRC 3 is the first rallygame I is going to get à chans! :) The other WRC games has been à big joke to thoes who really is à rally sim fans and love the life of rally!

Was there any more pics from Mexico? :)

[lcd]

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/696/30042349676042035265724.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/30042349676042035265724.jpg/)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9634/38703949676011035268868.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/38703949676011035268868.jpg/)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8567/26051549675957035274216n.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/26051549675957035274216n.jpg/)

[lcd]

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6045/40281549675930701943517.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/40281549675930701943517.jpg/)

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7264/55573349675870035282916.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/55573349675870035282916.jpg/)

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1891/21687549675822368621020.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/21687549675822368621020.jpg/)

[lcd]

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8567/26051549675957035274216n.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/26051549675957035274216n.jpg/)

If that video wall Is showing live the car passing, that's a grand addition!!!

[Astro83]

This pics from Mexico looks very very beatiful! And like you sad, the video-wall looks very nice! :) I really hope thats a new thing in WRC 3! Thats cool!

This game really have potential and I hope the guyes can fix real physics like in RBR and the Sound most be real this time! Not empty words, they really need to do this right. Not so hard with todays tec!

Cant wait to try this game/sim?! :)

[Astro83]

Thanks for all the screenshots lcd! :)

[mikejeo]

Hay Really nice !

[lcd]

....This game really have potential and I hope the guyes can fix real physics like in RBR... :)

First reactions from Alan Boiston (VVV) and the guys at InsideSimRacing, are possitive regarding sim feeling and I believe them.
They have played hundrends of racing/rally games through the past years, so they know what they are talking,
though their copy wasn't complete-Alan didn't even have a co-driver at some stages!

Anyway, It won't be a RBB for sure, but If there Is more sim In the game, that will be a huge success, for rally fans!

[Astro83]

Do you guys know if Finland is one of the "new" built rallys this year?? I really really hope so! I hope its looks like in Dirt 3 but even better!

[Astro83]

First reactions from Alan Boiston (VVV) and the guys at InsideSimRacing, are possitive regarding sim feeling and I believe them.
They have played hundrends of racing/rally games through the past years, so they know what they are talking,
though their copy wasn't complete-Alan didn't even have a co-driver at some stages!

Anyway, It won't be a RBB for sure, but If there Is more sim In the game, that will be a huge success, for rally fans!

I totaly agree with you! I hope so for the future!

[lcd]

Stages seen so far:

Monte Carlo new
Portugal new
Spain new
Wales new
France new?
Mexico new?
Argentina new?
Greece refreshed
Germany refreshed
Sweden refreshed

Heven't seen at all:

New Zealand
Finland
Italy

Remember: Developers have announced new stages for 7 rallies.

[rjbetty]

Thanks for all the screenshots lcd! :)

Yeah they have all been good, and the videos too.

With the Argentina stage, I do recognise it as stage 5 from last year's game.

For every rally in WRC 2, there are 3 routes. Each stage has 2 of the routes in it.

The format for every single rally is

Stage 1: Route A & Route B
Stage 2: Route C & Route A (backwards)
Stage 3: Route B (backw) & Route C (back)
Stage 4: Route A & Route C (back) [Stage 2 backwards, same ending as previous stage (so you'd better had show some improvement or Malcolm will be cross!)]
Stage 5: Route B & Route A [Stage 1 backwards]
Stage 6: Route C & Route B [Stage 3 backwards, same ending as Stage 1]

But Argentina seems to take place in a FOREST now! It suits me fine as it looks lush. It looks like Mushroom Hill zone from Sonic & Knuckles actually.
The only problem is like someone said, is that what it looks like in real life? (I don't have a problem with it, it looks great)

I've noticed where you could cut across and straightline certain series of bends last year, now there are rocks in the way. The road is also narrower, so it's more challenging this time round!

[michpetter]

Where's African DLC for WRC 2 for PC?

From what I've seen I CAN wait for this game.

[Bruce D]

LCD, why aren't you pumping your league on here? Got 21 entries for the last rally, next week's even already has 12, I'm sure others here would be interested. I mean, you don't really need Facebook to compete.

[lcd]

Do you think I should do It now???

[rjbetty]

Oh what's this guys? This is news to me. *Wants to join in*

[GigiGalliNo1]

What?! Where!?

[lcd]

Oh what's this guys?


What?! Where!?

Wrcgame GreekFans | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/wrcgame.greekfans)

[rjbetty]

Oh is it ok to use the xbox version? I can take screenshots with the laptop webcam.

[Bruce D]

For all versions of the game.

No LCD, I don't think you should move it over yet, just let people here know about it so they can join in.

[lcd]

Mini 60s officially announced as a DLC.

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[bennizw]

Any news on if they are including support for h-shift and clutch yet, LCD?

[106 sport]

Anything new?

[pino]

Anything new?

Yes...we can't wait ;)

[lcd]

A couple of Info, regarding carrer mode mostly, here:
WRC 3 Overview | The Official Game of the World Rally Championship (http://www.pqube.co.uk/wrc3/overview/)

[106 sport]

Yes...we can't wait ;)

jeje

[106 sport]

A couple of Info, regarding carrer mode mostly, here:
WRC 3 Overview | The Official Game of the World Rally Championship (http://www.pqube.co.uk/wrc3/overview/)

Thanks

[lcd]

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/769/18406641444377194251259.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/18406641444377194251259.jpg/)

Hope someday, rally games look so realistic!

[Astro83]

Thanks lcd for that article! :) I have pre order the WRC 3 now for PC and only wait for the realese!! :) any new info about Finland or any new screens??

[lcd]

We should expect some new preview videos, by the end of this week or the next one ;)
Fingers crossed to see new stages for Finland...

Meanwhile, you may find this quite Interesting: A guess of the possible stages layout:
If AC and CA are about 6 min then AB, BC, CB and BA will be around 3min. each.
Much better that DiRT's 1.30min. stages. (Based on the times made In Insidesimracing's Spain rally video preview)

The A point will be the Start of AC and the Finish of CA and BA. The B point will be the Start of BA and BC
but the Finish of CB. The C point will be the Start of CA and the Finish of AC and BC.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5287/wrc3stageslayout.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/wrc3stageslayout.jpg/)

[Astro83]

Okey lcd! :) thanks for the heads up! ;) yea, I REALLY hope that its going to be new built stages for Finland! Going to make a great deal for this game! And I hope and think they will do it better then in Dirt 3 when Milestone make this SS! Dirt 3 stages is sooo short and boring. The only good thing is that they succeed to make the road realistic and the jumps in some place. Its looks like Finland and I think Milestone with there new graphic engine will make it look even better! :)
I have really high hope for this game now!
Only thing is all the cars sounds, I hope they do a good job now with this and succeed! A skoda s2000 should sound diffrent then a Peugeot s2000 and the Mini and the Wrc cars also sound diffrent if we listnen to a Ford or citroen. They must fix this for this game!

[bennizw]

According to WRC the game's Facebook page, there will be news regarding the demo of WRC 3 tomorrow.

[A FONDO]

the demo itself or only news? :dozey:

[pino]

Where's the demo ? :D

[lcd]

WRC 3 Demo will be available on 11th September on XBOX LIVE and on 12th on PlayStation Network!!!
Probably there won't be a pc demo.

[Astro83]

Why not a demo to PC!?
I really hope that the DLC will be avileble for PC!! Because they can not only do all things for PS3 and more. Real sim fans often use PC so Milestone needs to put in a effort to secure the guys who uses a pc to!

But I will look at the demo for PS3 and look att graphics but sadly I can not check the physics on a PS3! :(

[lcd]

PC demo announced too. But It will delayed for a couple of weeks ;)

[lcd]

Here are the results of the poll started back In June.
Maybe a small sample, but could be very useful for both fans and developers ;)
Remember: Those voted, had only 1 vote and couldn't vote more than once (at least from the same IP)


http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7483/wrc3pollresults.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/wrc3pollresults.jpg/)

[306 Cosworth]

Real sim fans often use PC so Milestone needs to put in a effort to secure the guys who uses a pc to!
:(

But this isn't a 'sim' racer. It's more of an arcade game. In fact Sega Rally has better physics than this game.

[306 Cosworth]

Here are the results of the poll started back In June.
Maybe a small sample, but could be very useful for both fans and developers ;)
Remember: Those voted, had only 1 vote and couldn't vote more than once (at least from the same IP)


http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7483/wrc3pollresults.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/wrc3pollresults.jpg/)

Should have included realistic car sounds, rather than generic crap. Guarantee the S2000, S1600 cars don't sound anything like they should.

[lcd]

...In fact Sega Rally has better physics than this game.

Hating the game, Is something I can understand, but this Is an unfortunate comparison.

[306 Cosworth]

I hate Milestone with a passion for what they have done with the WRC games. Seriously hope a decent company gets the next contract.

[lcd]

Milestone have renewed the FIA lisence. Don't know yet for how many years.
Give them a chance though. It may took them some years, but I have a feeling they will get It right
this time ;)

[306 Cosworth]

Oh that's bad news. Looks like Dirt 3 will be staying in the PS3 for a while then. It may only have short stages, but at least it has good car physics and good car sounds.

[GigiGalliNo1]

So everyone hates the game and it's not even out yet?!

[WRC FOCUS LIVE]

After passing through these forums on several occasions over the months ive decided to give my ten pence worth,as a veteran to video games i totally agree with the instant haters to the milestone/blackbean wrc franchise,they have brought it upon themselves with their over the top hype and false claims to greatness prior to release of the last to iterations of the game,when in reality what they delivered where two of the most sub standard attempts at recreating this truly magnificent, historic Motorsport.As a small developer we understand their limitations financially,but when you take in to account they could afford to purchase the wrc licence and have seemingly acquired an extension to the lease they would then be able to put together a descent game that can fill a sizeable hole in the market left by evolution studios wrc and colin mcrae codemasters point to point timed staged events,they knew the market they were buying into and headline history suggests a small limited one at that,but don't believe the hype the above games sold in their millions annually throughout Europe then the greed set in and the powers that be went for world domination with dirt, motor storm etc etc to the dismay of the mainly european rally market,while these diluted rally titles have mass appeal they don't fulfil our rally needs.I have to mention RBR as it has kept rally alive but in all honesty it had a second coming due to the fact there was nothing else around,originally it didn't sell well. So until milestone delivers a truly current generation video game they deserve all the hate they get,seems we will have a clearer picture come the demo.

[rjbetty]

Well I think I actually have to agree with a lot of that, as I felt in many ways the Evolution Studios games (10 YEARS AGO!) had better graphics for their time and just seemed much more professional and at a higher standard.

On the other hand, the Miletsone games have included SO many features that I'm digging, that would never appear on an EVOS game. More drivers (14-15 was pathetic really, same for RBR), all those stats! The offline stats are absolutely amazing, I would only say add more. It adds another dimension for me and makes the game much more enjoyable. And there are more than the absurd 3 stages on Rally Evolved!

That last point must never happen again, as I was absolutely aghast 7 years ago.

[lcd]

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[bennizw]

Surely this isn't the final version of the game? If so, they have done nothing with the car sounds....

[Astro83]

Thanks again lcd for the videos! Here's what I think:

First of all, Milestone - Its so fun and its warming to aee that you guys do everything you can to make us rallyfans satisfyed!! Good work BUT do more to the game and keep on going and devolep the game further! You are on the absolutly right way for a succsess!

Graphic and detail on cars and SS:

The graphic over all is Really good, very very nice! It looks beautiful! Good work there!
The details on SS is mire good then bad but its more to do for the ultimate realism!
I LOVE that you now use the small start clock as in real but guys, let it countdown from 10 instead of 6. 6 is better then 5 but 10 is perfect! ;)
Also please fix a start clock on the ground as in real, not so hard...
Then even more detail on stage, MUCH more public/people in the stage, much more. Even more marshalls, camera/foto guys, flags, for example the french, finnish, spain, norway, swedish that fans brings! Arrows like in junction is a great detail that you miss.
Over all, its on the absolutly right way but its much more to do about the details for the ultimate realism...

Cars in this two videos looks very very good graphical... But!!!!! The cockpit view??? Come on, the R2 Fiesta dont have a WRC steeringwheel!! The whole car MOST look like in real, that you need to succeed with! The graphic and realism over the cars needs to be 150% - the fans would not except anything less.

The cars do NOT use mudflaps on tarmac!!! Do not use mudflaps on cars in tarmac rallys please - again - realism... The small deatails!

Physics and sound:

Physics, I dont know - need to drive the game/sim with my G27 but tje sound! ****, thats bad!
Really really bad!

A R2 Fiesta with anti-lag!?! Come on now!!! Nooooo anti-lag!
Not even the newer WRC cars and S2000 use that type of anti-lag!!!! Put it away for ever!!!!

The sounds is not good at all, really bad!!
Guys, a realistic sound of eatch and every car is a must! The Mini will sound as a mini and the fiesta as a fiesta, the proton as a proton! You know what I mean, its not hard at all to fix!

I really hope that the sounds in this preview is from WRC 2 or some ****y game! And that Milestone dont show us the sound yet!

But over all, really good but you need to work with all the small and big details!! The real realism is soo important!! Simfans need that!!

Good job and keep it up, do not be satisfyed! ;)

Thanks again

[A FONDO]

OMG! Drift points? Unlockables? So much develop labour thrown in the wind. But I'm sure they wont repair things like the same sound for DS3 WRC & DS3 R3T; Subaru N4 & Subaru WRC.

[lcd]

Demo dates cancelled. :( New dates will be announced tomorrow...

[Astro83]

Okey lcd. I hope it is because they will do some improvment or something. Its not so bad. I do not want to be dissapointed! :)

Lcd. Do you know if the two videos you put up is from the early realise of the vip demos?? The sound was still terrible and small things was not good still. So I hope that was a eraly demo with stuff from wrc 2 put in it because they still work on it, like sounds and more...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Drift what?! I'm not paying no drift game?! If I want that I'd play Dirty3!

Just give me a career mood.

V-Rally 3 style.

Academy, or Junior, then PWRC, then S2000 then join a small team in WRC and later get offers by big teams to join! Have a good 5-6-7-8 year/seasons and then swap teams to start again! I love that like I mentioned before! WRC2 before this new one we are talking about is great! ... Wonder what 3 will being us... Previews.... I can understand where everyone is coming from now!

[Allyc85]

Come on guys get that sound sorted, its still terrible :(

[lcd]

Okey lcd. I hope it is because they will do some improvment or something. Its not so bad. I do not want to be dissapointed

This Is at least very unprofessional of them. :mad:


... Do you know if the two videos you put up is from the early realise of the vip demos??

Contents of demo here:
WRC 3 Demo Hits Xbox Live and Playstation Network | PQube News (http://www.pqube.co.uk/wrc3/news/wrc-3-demo-hits-xbox-live-and-playstation-network/)

[lcd]

...they still work on it, like sounds and more...

I believe the game Is already finished. What we see from now on, It will probably be the final product.

[Astro83]

If this is the final product, then its sad.. I had really hope for realistic sound and even more realism then what iv seen so long... They have much moooore to do before the realise... This is no ok! Fix this please Milestone! You only need to do small things right do get thousends of fans!!! Get this right!

[lcd]

New demo dates announced: PS3: 12/9, XBOX live: 14/9

[lcd]

Very Improved dust particles. More natural and long lasting.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6879/screenlg3ju.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/screenlg3ju.jpg/)

[MrJan]

Demo dates cancelled. :( New dates will be announced tomorrow...

Judging by those videos they'd be better off cancelling the game and pushing it back a few more months til they've got the sounds and graphics sorted. Can't believe that they've spent time developing all those extra modes, they clearly aren't going to match DiRT for sales, so why try to create the same product? The stages look good, but judging from the ABC thing they will still only have a handful of layouts.

I was looking forward to this game, especially having not bought WRC2, but sound is such an important thing for a rally fan that I won't even bother with renting this game...I may not even download the demo. Poor effort, and in the face of such great feedback from fans.

[A FONDO]

Very Improved dust particles. More natural and long lasting.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6879/screenlg3ju.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/screenlg3ju.jpg/)
do you work for them or what? dust particles are the LEAST important thing!

[bennizw]

No, LCD is just overly positive where the rest of us are negative ;)

[pino]

No, LCD is just overly positive where the rest of us are negative ;)

...or maybe He's just too nice trying to provide as many info/pics/videos as possible to everyone in here ;)

[MrJan]

...or maybe He's just too nice trying to provide as many info/pics/videos as possible to everyone in here ;)

Which he does great at :up: I've learnt to temper his optomisim with my own brand of pessimism in the hope that somewhere in the middle will be the real answer :)

[Astro83]

Thank you lcd for all the updates! I think with this pic to judge that WRC 3 will be a great game if we see to the graphics. It will be a beautiful game! (I hope!! To judge by videos and screenshots)
In that case, Milestone will succeed what it seems to...

BUT!! Graphics are a big part for making the game "real" but the absolutly biggest part in no1 is physics/REAL sound. Without that, the game/sim is nothing!!!
The only ones who will be playing it without these things are arcade-fan and I hope that Milestone understand that they really need the real rallyfans who love the true sport of rallying and those needs realism, true realism = sim like RBR look alike. BUT in these days the RBR game would not survive either... The game must have some content like the new WRC 3 and that is not a problem for me. Only they have a true sim career.
They need to fix real sound and if Dirt 3 almost can make it and the OLD rbr CAN do it with fans all over the world, then Milestone can do it. Its not hard. Thats make me angry! Physics like in RBR colud Milestone also fix if they want it. I ät dosent need to be exactly like RBR but WRC and WRC 2 physics is a BIG joke! A 7 year old boy can like it but a person who can drive a car hate it! If they dont like true arcade???

Please Milestone, you guyes is on the edge to make something really big here. Do not trow this away!!
Personally I give WRC 3 one chans and possibly WRC 4 but if nothing happends then im out. Sadly I think that many people just gives this game one chans to succeed! If you dont care about the sound and the physics now, you will loose thousends of fans based on the two terrible games in this series!!

I will wait to judge this game 100% till its out but im sadly being worried! Based on the last videos, road to glory!
But it seems like Milestone still working on the game and thats great! Keep it up!

[lcd]

Please don't forget: Comments go along with info/pics/videos are my personal opinion only ;)
Now, who's tried the PS3 demo? We need all the feedback we can get!

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4643/54635941663399839015621.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/54635941663399839015621.jpg/)

[NISMO_GTR]

Please don't forget: Comments go along with info/pics/videos are my personal opinion only ;)
Now, who's tried the PS3 demo? We need all the feedback we can get!

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4643/54635941663399839015621.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/54635941663399839015621.jpg/)

Hi lcd, the demo is not on the store just yet and it should be updated in the morning. I will post video as soon as I can get it :) .

[NISMO_GTR]

Also have they updated the tarmac rims? Look a lot bigger now.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc235/Nismo_Skyline_GTR/383285_460427320664461_875423936_n.jpg

[Plan9]

I still want to know what the 01B will look like in the game, all we have seen is the 01A...

[Walach]

Also have they updated the tarmac rims? Look a lot bigger now.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc235/Nismo_Skyline_GTR/383285_460427320664461_875423936_n.jpg

Hehe, finally the rims issue? On the third attempt? Well done, awesome job!


I still want to know what the 01B will look like in the game, all we have seen is the 01A...

I gues we will see very poor 01A version again.

[bennizw]

Looks like the tarmac rims on the DS3 have been enlarged and improved, bravo!

[lcd]

Indeed, the new rims look much better now.

[Astro83]

The tarmac rims in the screenshot looks really nice!! Good work Milestone! Love to see updates coming and coming! :)

[lcd]

Game's director In person officially WRC3 demo announcement:
WRC 3 FIA World Rally Championship Demo Revs Its Engines (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2012/09/12/wrc-3-fia-world-rally-championship-demo-revs-its-engines/)

[pino]

No demo yet on PSN, guess we have to wait until 5-6 pm :(

[lcd]

Looking forward to your review :)

[pino]

Looking forward to your review :)

It will be a very short one...as usually ;)

[lcd]

WRC 3 @ Wales rally GB!

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9714/30356039533892719860568.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/30356039533892719860568.jpg/)

[pino]

Demo arrived on PSN...downloading now :D

[bennizw]

I can't find it, where?!

[pino]

I can't find it, where?!

Playstation Store ! :D

[bennizw]

Where on Playstation store? :)

[pino]

Where on Playstation store? :)

Search for WRC3 on Search feature ;) it's a big file (1169MB) btw

[bennizw]

Cheers! Downloading now :)

[Astro83]

Were did you fibd the demo to PS3? I cant find it!

[pino]

Were did you fibd the demo to PS3? I cant find it!

Search for WRC3 on Search feature ;)

[lcd]

;) it's a big file (1169MB) btw

hmmm, that's good. If the demo Is so big, that means there are many details there...

[Astro83]

Thanks, download it now! Coming with a comment when iv played it!

[bennizw]

Physics are improved, so are the graphics, BUT the car sounds are exactly the same, at least for the DS3 WRC..... Aren't they including the new sounds anyway?

[lcd]

So, this Is the very first comment! Thanks for sharing It Benniz ;)
Glad to hear physics/graphics are Improved (as expected). A bit frustrated, regarding the sounds comment...

[bennizw]

Has anyone understood how you can alter the car setup? I can't seem to alter anything, just view the settings.

[bennizw]

I have asked them on their Facebook page about the car sounds, but I don't expect they will reply...

[lcd]

Has anyone understood how you can alter the car setup? I can't seem to alter anything, just view the settings.

Couldn't demo be fully functional, regarding cars set up settings?

[bennizw]

A couple of more things to point out from the single stage mode:

* There is a somewhat strange feeling to the handbrake. At first it doesn't seem to react, before the car suddenly flicks around and the car counter-steers a couple of times.
* The grass on the inside of the corners is a bit sticky and slows the car down in an unatural way.
* The replays look better, and the car model looks more well proportioned. However, they have included an ugly and unrealistic field of view effect for the exterior replay cameras.
* The co-driver sound is OK. A big upgrade from WRC 1 and 2, but still a bit robotlike.
* The engine sounds are still a dissaster, let's hope they are better for the full version, because I can hear no difference between the demo and WRC 2.
* The physics are actually pretty good. It's easy to start attacking when driving, but the car still has a strang kind of grip both on gravel and tarmac which is hard to explain.
* The dust effects are alright.

Now to test the career mode!

UPDATE:

* The Ford Fiesta WRC has a new car sound, but I wouldn't say it has improved much. It's still very "metallic", just like the DS3.

[Astro83]

Thanks for the comments! Very good! Keep it comming, its intresting to read! I will play it tonight!
Can you please keep me update regarding the sounds, I dont have facebook!

In Playstation forum, Milestone sad that the sound IS changed!!! Strange!!!

[bennizw]

I see the developers answer Pino earlier at the link LCD publised earlier today saying that the sounds have been changed, I can't say I see that too much.

[Astro83]

Bennizw: If thats true, about the sound, and I think that you Have right! Then its sooooo ****ING sad!! How hard can it be to do that small but big thing right!!! Its unbeliveble!!
I hope they fix that for the realise!!

But if you talk about the game and rallyfeeling, is it much better then WRC 2?! Is it a good and life like feeling when you drive a stage??
Is it more like a sim now then tWRC and WRC 2 who was crap!

How is the realism??

[bennizw]

Let's hope they fix it. I have never driven a WRC car myslef before (Sadly), but judging from the experience I have from sitting in the co-drivers seat in a WRC and Group N car, I would say there is still a far way to go to be able to call the game a sim. They handling is more predictable in WRC 3 than 2, and will probably be even better when we can alter car settings. There are more spectators in the stages than the previous games, but I still think the stage build is very unrealistic in comparison to real life stages. Luckily the stages in the demo are much more narrow than in the past games, but there is still a way to go with the topology and resemblance of real stages.

[lcd]

Personally, I am very satisfied with all seen on the video. And the sounds are not so bad.
Definitely, better than WRC2: More raw and aggressive. There could be room for Improvement though.

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[bennizw]

I still think the DS3 sounds the same as in WRC 2, there is something box like with the sound. It's still far off the real engine sounds sadly. Has anyone figured out if you can tweek the car settings by the way?

[Astro83]

Now I have played the demo a few times, both single stage and road to glory.
The first impressions of the new WRC 3:

The last 2 games in this serie I think is at least CRAP... But this one, I really like! I think as Iv saying before, that Milestone has something really good going on!!
I have very very high hopes for WRC 4!!

This game as of now is a good rally game, I think that this will beat Dirt 3 easy because this is a fine and "real" rally game.*
I play on PC mostly and I think that the graphics in this game is good, almost very good! But I hope that Milestone can do something more with the graphics in the future, because I think the graphics now is a bit to much catroon, is to much colour, its not quite lifelike. But its okey, good!!*
Then on PC I think its going to be much better then on PS3.

The physics are absolutly great if I compare this with Dirt 3, and absolutly great if I compere with WRC and WRC 2. I think this game will beat Dirt 3 in physics! Not near RBR but I think Milestone is on their way to do it in future!
Iv only play this now on my PS3 with a handcontrol but with my G27 and my PC I think it will be much better!*
But they still need to do it better, more lifelike physics.
Tarmac wheels on gravel should be much more slippery!!

One thing in "graphics" I would really would like Milestone to change and throw away is all the tiresmoke on tarmac roads... NOT good! Thats not real at all! End that please!

The dust should be much bigger and hang longer..., Now its to small and not real.
The damage to the car is great if you drive with "heavy" setup.

Now the sound! ;)

It sooo much better then the last 2 games I think.
When the DS3 WRC stand still, the engine sounds superb, really good sound BUT please let the sound be much much loader/higher!! More sound!!! Its to quiet!!!

Then under way when you drive, njeeee the sound is not realistic, its not the sound of an DS3 WRC. But its still good if you compere with WRC and WRC 2.

The Fiesta WRC is the same but the engine wraaall / sound is soo quiet. Thats really boring!

Then the Fiesta WRC has a more powerfull sound and more distinct!
I hope that Milestone can do something about that and fix more audio setup as in RBR, like fore example, Engine sound, incar sfx sound, co-driver sound and outside sfx like birds, people and more so that we can pic our sound setup ourself to get it as real as we want it.

Its little anti-lag sound yet, take that away please and even the backfire flames!
But its a big difference from the last games and thats good!

The tarmac rims on the DS3 looks very good and the DS3 WRC as in graphic made is beautiful! Great job! The Fiesta is good but its more job there I think!

A really great thing was that my car at single stage was stuck at a road bank for 5min... :D I was stuck when I went of the road! Thats nice!! It was on a gravel bank!! ;) thats real!
But the grass should NOT slow the car down only make it much more slippery!!

So the positive:

This is going to be a good game!
They need to work on the details on sound, physics and stage for the real realism! More people/fans, "arrows" in junction and more of the small details!
But over all, this was a good and happy experience!! For me who hated the last 2 games!
This will not beat RBR but they are getting there but Dirt 3 will be beatend when the game is all done I think! Dirt 3 is not a real rally game ofcourse but anyway!

The things I would love Milestone to reflect in for the future or change before realise:*

- in start of the stage, let the player be seated in the car a few seconds before the clock is start to counting down.

- let the graphics looks less cartoon then you will have it all!

- let ther be much higher car sounds insted for high outside sounds like people and more. The real WRC cars sounds very high! ;) or fix better sound setups for us to chose!

- work more on car setups all the time, do not stop with this thing and I hope for the complete game that we can do very much more to the car setup because in the demo we couldent do anything. Let us chose to stiff up and lower the car alot and of corse in the other direction. Because the Fiesta in Spain was like driving a old car with very soft suspension!

- I love that you almost put the anti-lag sound away but its still there - THROW IT AWAY! Its not there anymore in real life!

- Then the dust, tooo little!! Let it be much more and let it hang in there, because in replay it not lifelike, its too small clouds, its not hanging and when the car almost stops, its goes away direct!! The dust stops when the car stops!

- then the cars dont get dirty of the dust??? It dosent take many 100 meters before the car is all dusty in real!

- more camera veiws both when playing and as in replay! The cockpit view should be more near the steeringwheel or with the dashboard!

- the windows should look like windows, get dirty and so on. Now I dont see any window if you understand me.

- when driving with tarmac setup on gravel, it should be very slippery (understeering) and when gravel setup, very oversteering/slippery.

- let us be able to chose to turn music of in replays!

As I say, I will buy this and im sure that I will find this game very funny and nice to play, and you guys at Milestone is going to make really great WRC games in the future if you compete and fight to do it much better all the time. You are not quiet ther yet but you will if you work with ALL the small details to make the realism 150%!
I really didnt think that you would succeed with this but you proved me wrong! Work on all the small things and no one will beat you!

This is going to be fun and Im happy now! :) Thanks!

Sorry for my bad english!

[pino]

Quite satisfied so far as almost everything has been improved (sound included) :p : Stages are as narrow as they can be, handling is excellent ,graphics, pace notes, physics and car damage very good !

[Astro83]

Now Iv been listnen to the sound one again and compered to sound clips on youtube.

The sound of the DS3 and Fiesta WRC is almost if not exacly the same as in real when the cars stand still, Milestone should get the engine sound a bit higher thou..

Incar under the stages is ok but not as good as I hoped for. Its still a way to go incar when I compered this to real incar movies.

So they have succeed with the sound when the cars stand still but not in speed.

I hope they will get it better untill the realise.

But the demo is 1000 times better to the last 2 games, we can no longer compere WRC 3 with them I think!

Looking forward to you other guys fellings and reviews of the demo but I think this is pretty good!

Please update as before with news and stuff untill the realise!

Its a great forum!

[lcd]

Quite satisfied so far as almost everything has been improved (sound included) :p :
Stages are as narrow as they can be, handling is excellent ,graphics, pace notes, physics and car damage very good !

A short review (as expected), but like the Ancient Greeks, used to say: 'Brevity Is the source of wit' ;)

[Frozzy]

from what i've played of the Demo seems pretty good better than WRC2 anyways my only grumble is with the "Road to Glory" mode if i want to crash through boardsd and drift contests i'll Play DiRT3 all i want is an improved carrer mode from 2 with more room for customisation of sponsors and liveries. And leave all this exteme sports nonsense to Codemasters.

[pino]

Posted this on Playstation Blog to Milestone Game Director Sebastien Pellicano :

Ciao Sebastien pino here again, just wanted to say that after playing the demo I am quite satisfied. The game has improved a lot in almost everything, my only complain is sound option. Let me explain : Being an old rallyfan and a former codriver I would like to hear engine-sound (and pace-note ofcourse)only when playing, not the outside sound. Everyday I visit 3 differents rallyforum plus the one I moderate myself and believe me, most people would like to have that option. As for the sound itself on the game isn’t as good as Dirt3 but I can live with that. My question is, would that be possible to add the option to switch off outside-sound and keep engine-sound only, before the game will be released ? If not, will you guys considering this in the next WRC4 ?

Thanks for your time



You guys can read it here (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2012/09/12/wrc-3-fia-world-rally-championship-demo-revs-its-engines/)

[lcd]

Wales rally GB!!!

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[pettersolberg29]

Have to say that the Rally GB stage looks pretty good there - including what I've found in the demo this game certainly looks a step up in terms of graphics and physics. Almost there - here's hoping WRC4 puts everything together and they get it 100% right!

[lcd]

Looks like Finland Is refreshed or totally redone!

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6559/wrc3finland.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/wrc3finland.jpg/)

[pino]

Reply from Game Director Sebastien Pellicano :


Hi pino,

glad to read you again. Regarding the sound you can manage the pacenote sound, the engine sound and the music changing the level as you prefer. Not the environmental sounds. Hope this is the answer you need.

S.P.


I was hoping we had the option to switch-off the outside sound and keep engine and pace-note only....hopefully they will add it to next game :)

[Plan9]

pino, can you ask about the Mini 01A & B? (ie will there be both versions). Can you also post a picture of Sandell's car? Thanks in advance.

[Astro83]

Lcd: thanks for all the updates!! Kerp them coming its fun! :) And as Finland! I really hope so and that Rally Finland really looks like we driving on finnish stages with nature, road types and all that!

Pino:
Can you please ask Seb a cuple of question / tips.
Get the cars much more dusty on gravel and quicker let the cars get dirty over all.
Let the Dust after the car hang in much longer and get the cloud much much bigger and now the dust stops when the car stops??
Tarmac smoke in turns, NOT REAL.
Let the cars sound much higher! Turn that lowest cars sound level up a great bit!!
Put all anti-lag away please.
Thanks!

[pino]

Guys you can ask questions yourself, all you need is a PSN account :

WRC 3 FIA World Rally Championship Demo Revs Its Engines (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2012/09/12/wrc-3-fia-world-rally-championship-demo-revs-its-engines/)

[lcd]

Getting better and better!

http://i48.tinypic.com/2rr6we0.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2v9qf4n.jpg

[Astro83]

Any more new pics?? :)

[Hazza555)]

Getting better and better!

http://i48.tinypic.com/2rr6we0.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2v9qf4n.jpg

If that's where they think Rally NZ is, i.e inside that red circle, they might want to do a bit more research.

I like how each rally get's a difficulty rating

[Astro83]

Pino: please ask seb my questions i wrote before! :) I'v tried to make myself an account but I only get error messages!! :( please?! :)
You seem to have a great talk with him! ;)

[Plan9]

Hey pino, I have the same issues as Astro83. If it would not be too much trouble I would really appreciate it if you could ask my questions too please...

[lcd]

I just had the chance to play WRC3 demo for the XBOX!
That's exactly what I wanted from the official WRC game: Simulation based handling with a real rally atmoshere
from the presentation menus to the special stages! Handling, graphics, sounds, all perfectly done!
Can't wait for the full game! Gongratulations to all Milestone staff!

[Astro83]

Lcd: the game looks great but it is things Milestone must develop in this game before the realise or in future for WRC 4. You cant say that the sound is perfect?? :)

The game is good as in demo version but its need more work in details for realism!

[lcd]

I always compare a game, with the previous ones of the series.
WRC3 looks It will be, by far the best of the series, since Milestone got the FIA license.
I expect of course WRC4 to be even better ;) And take the word 'perfect' as a figure of speach If you like :)

[pino]

Astro & Plan9 I will post your questions later this evening ;)

[Astro83]

Lcd: yea we think the same, wrc 3 cant be compered with the last 2. Because these games was aweful! But with that sad, wrc 3 looks to be a great and fun rallygame even possible a ok sim for ones!

[Astro83]

Pino: thank you! Your a great person, man or woman!! ;) ;) ;)

Thats the only chans to get some changes for the better now or in the future! Milestone should have a own forum for these things! :)

[pettersolberg29]

Anyone fancy a little competition among those on here with the demo? Post your best time on both of the real rally stages so we can see what sort of times we should be aiming for!

[bennizw]

It could be a fun thing to have going towards the release, good idea! Has anyone been able to alter car settings, or are they actually locked?

[pettersolberg29]

Back in the good ol' days in time trail things like this on the Simulations forum we used to copy the times so far and put in our time where it ranked on the table with the name next to it, so the next person who puts a time up place it just on top of mine in a table ;) I really cannot get to grips with the game yet. Way too much sliding, but getting better slowly. My best time is:

La Mussara

4:26.66 - Ian

I'll try the other stage now.

[Astro83]

It seems that setups is locked sadly!

[pettersolberg29]

Update - cannot do the other stage without hitting every other barrier, though the Fiesta seems more balanced to me. I'll be interested to see other's pace.

La Mussara

4:26.66 - Ian

Road to Glory

1:14.51 - Ian

[lcd]

The handling Is very demanding. Wonder how more accurate can be, when altering the car set up options :)
I am having some hard times finding a good rhythm-Strugggling to get under 4:50!!!
No doubt, at the moment It's the most simlike rally game In the gaming business!

[MrJan]

4:31.12 - First time I've played the game when not drunk. Would definitely like to be able to change the brake bias, it's way to skittish under braking.

Managed a 4:24.77 with a bit more practice.

Actually quite impressed. The stage seems like a good length and good design (there's some lovely flowing bits through Mussara), the handling is tricky but not so as to frustrate you, the pacenotes seem to be pretty accurate (one of my biggest complaints about DiRT3 is that the pacenotes aren't good enough for you to rely on them, you need to watch the map thing). The engine sounds are bad but not as bad as it first seemed from the videos, you can sort of put up with that because the rest of the game seems quite good.

La Mussara

4:24.77 - Jan
4:26.66 - Ian

Road to Glory

1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - Ian

[pino]

My best time so far 4:42:11 but haven't played much to be honest :p :

[MrJan]

Just managed to pull a 4:23.69 out the bag.

Did you guys notice that there's an auto-braking thing that's on by default? Really annoys me when games have that, really basic stuff like that should only be in as an option for kids to turn on if they're struggling, not something that's a default setting.

[pettersolberg29]

4:31.12 - First time I've played the game when not drunk. Would definitely like to be able to change the brake bias, it's way to skittish under braking.

Managed a 4:24.77 with a bit more practice.

Actually quite impressed. The stage seems like a good length and good design (there's some lovely flowing bits through Mussara), the handling is tricky but not so as to frustrate you, the pacenotes seem to be pretty accurate (one of my biggest complaints about DiRT3 is that the pacenotes aren't good enough for you to rely on them, you need to watch the map thing). The engine sounds are bad but not as bad as it first seemed from the videos, you can sort of put up with that because the rest of the game seems quite good.

La Mussara

4:24.77 - Jan
4:26.66 - Ian

Road to Glory

1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - Ian

I think that around 4:20 is possible for La Mussara but I really couldn't beat 1:14 on the Road to Glory one. I am struggling with the brakes massively and not got any rhythm. But as you rightly say Jan, the Mussara stage has some great sections, especially on the gravel. Good length too. Looking forward to the full game.

edit: good effort Jan - I'll have another shot later to see if I can get there!

[lcd]

La Mussara

4:23.69 - Jan
4:26.66 - Ian
4:35.27 - lcd
4:42.11 - pino

Road to Glory

1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - Ian
1:16.45 - lcd

[pino]

Wow you guys are taking this seriously, I ve only had few run to discover the game. Must start to go faster then ;)

[pettersolberg29]

Wow you guys are taking this seriously, I ve only had few run to discover the game. Must start to go faster then ;)

Haha with the end of the other Sim championships on here I make the most of any competition there is!

[bennizw]

I will post my run when I get home tomorrow, haven't played the game for a couple of days now.
I am sure the car will be even more drivable when we can alter the brake bias, the power distrubution, the suspension and maybe the differentials.

[Plan9]

Looks like you guys are having some good fun! When WRC3 comes out officially can we compare stage times on the game for real? you know, someone choose a stage and then we all upload our times? What cars can you get in the demo? I have not downloaded it yet...

[Astro83]

Hey Plan9!

In demo version, you can only drive the Citroen DS3 WRC and the Fiesta WRC!

The DS3 WRC looks very lifelike, so beautiful! :) but the Fiesta is not so great looking in the demo! Hope the work on it for the realise! :)

[xX Jojje Xx]

Hi,
First post..
I have been following this great forum for some time now.
I´m really looking forward to WRC3 and this seems to be the place to get the knews about the game. ( Thanks lcd :) )

I have tried the demo a few times and I must say I'm impressed.
Everything seems to be improved,really enjoying it.
My only complain so far is that you cant adjust the engine sound without altering the road/gravel sound.
Can't be that hard to implement that into the game.
Gonna play some more later, Iwilll post my times then.


xX Jojje Xx

[rjbetty]

Hi,
First post..
I have been following this great forum for some time now.
I´m really looking forward to WRC3 and this seems to be the place to get the knews about the game. ( Thanks lcd :) )

I have tried the demo a few times and I must say I'm impressed.
Everything seems to be improved,really enjoying it.
My only complain so far is that you cant adjust the engine sound without altering the road/gravel sound.
Can't be that hard to implement that into the game.
Gonna play some more later, Iwilll post my times then.


xX Jojje Xx

Hi Jojje, welcome on board. :)

[xX Jojje Xx]

Thanks rjbetty :)

Played some more,great demo.

Here are my times ( manual,everything off ) :

La Mussara

4:16.68

Road to Glory

1:09.73

xX Jojje Xx

[lcd]

4:16.68 - xX Jojje Xx
4:23.69 - Jan
4:26.66 - Ian
4:35.27 - lcd
4:42.11 - pino

Road to Glory

1:09.73 - xX Jojje Xx
1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - Ian
1:16.45 - lcd

Welcome to Motorsportforums and Simulations xX Jojje Xx!

[pino]

Plan9 I've posted your Q, and as for you Astro...yours are more tips than questions and as the game it's almost finished it will be waste of time and space, hope you understand :)

[pino]

Now time to put demo in and try to be faster :p : :s

[lcd]

For all 'gadget freaks' out there, WRC3 for iPad&iPhone announced:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2i1z39g.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/andh11.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/e9vmf4.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/20f8e52.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

Fancy! iPhone and iPad!

Hey I'm in Australia and can't download the demo on my Xbox... How do it get WRC3 demo?

[bennizw]

La Mussara: 4:14.46
Coll de la Teixeta: 01:09.06

UPDATED: Now with both times.

[lcd]

I suppose no one uses any assists right? We are on 'Simulations' afterall!

4:14.46 - Bennizw
4:16.68 - xX Jojje Xx
4:23.69 - Jan
4:26.66 - Ian
4:35.27 - lcd
4:42.11 - pino

Road to Glory

1:09.73 - xX Jojje Xx
1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - Ian
1:16.45 - lcd

[pino]

Hey I'm in Australia and can't download the demo on my Xbox... How do it get WRC3 demo?

Move to Europe ! :p :

[lcd]

...Hey I'm in Australia and can't download the demo on my Xbox... How do it get WRC3 demo?

Unlike pino's suggestion lol, I'd say that you must have the gold membership,
otherwise you can't see the demo anywhere on the demos section.

[bennizw]

I don't think anyone uses assist. It will slow you down anyway!

[MrJan]

I use the semi-auto 'box, but mainly because it's a pain changing gears on the controller if you need to use the handbrake, it all gets too busy for my liking.

[eestlane]

when comes the demo out for pc?

[lcd]

It will probably announced later this week or the next one ;)

I am entering 'La Mussara' for a better time (I hope!)

[pino]

La Mussara...my best time so far 4:28:17 still too slow ! :s

[pettersolberg29]

La Mussara

4:14.46 - Bennizw
4:16.68 - xX Jojje Xx
4:23.69 - Jan
4:26.66 - ps29
4:28:17 - pino
4:35.27 - lcd


Road to Glory

1:09.06 - Bennizw
1:09.73 - xX Jojje Xx
1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - ps29
1:16.45 - lcd

[pettersolberg29]

No idea how you got anywhere near 4:14 on La Mussara bennizw! Great effort!

[pino]

Guys have a look at this :eek:

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[pettersolberg29]

That's pretty nice driving! No idea how he got the car to be so smooth under braking and in fast corners - I find it swings wide like a pendulum with the slightest of turns. With manual setup I could almost understand but with that setup he's a magician!

[lcd]

Some say the assists may be on! That's why the car Is In such a great control.

[lcd]

La Mussara

4:14.46 - Bennizw
4:16.68 - xX Jojje Xx
4:23.69 - Jan
4:26.66 - ps29
4:28:17 - pino
4:28.19 - lcd


Road to Glory

1:09.06 - Bennizw
1:09.73 - xX Jojje Xx
1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - ps29
1:16.45 - lcd

[lcd]

La Mussara...my best time so far 4:28:17 still too slow ! :s

...But just a small breath ahead (new time 4:28.19!!!)

[bennizw]

I was a bit surprised myself, it was somewhat on the limit at times, went off in the narrow part through the forest. Tried not using the handbrake through the hairpins, it felt a little bit faster. On the other stage I found it faster with the handbrake, as the hairpins are much tighter there.

[lcd]

Guys, I am making a new thread for our little contest, so to keep this therad clean. OK?

[bennizw]

Good idea! Any idea if there is any more news or footage of the game coming soon?

[lcd]

A huge WRC3 content blowout, Is coming later this week from Alan Boiston from the VVV.

[xX Jojje Xx]

A huge WRC3 content blowout, Is coming later this week from Alan Boiston from the VVV.

Great news,looking forward to that.

bennizw : nice driving..gonna do my best trying to beat you tomorrow ;) :)


Jojje

[lcd]

...bennizw : nice driving..gonna do my best trying to beat you tomorrow

Hmmm, he's quite a tough opponent you know :p

[bennizw]

I'm sure you'll be way ahead of me by this time tomorrow :)

[NISMO_GTR]

Video Preview: WRC 3 | Gaming Examiner - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr0o7jzCPwA)

New video!

[Astro83]

Tjena Jojje och välkommen!! ;)

Pino: yes I agree with you, my "questions" can absolutly be tips but some of the question/tips can they, if they want change before realise... But even if they want and its not impossible to do it they have the "tips" for the future...
I want to have a chans to comunicate with them and that was my chans...
Milestone is not so great at that, to have a forum or something there the players/fans can speak with them and talk about wishes for future games or changes in games.
Many of us have great ideas how to make the game even better with small changes and its frustrating that not have a way to discuss with them. Codemasters, EA and many more have active forums for comunications with fans but not Milestone!

They say that they use rallypros like JM, Petter and many more to create a lifelike rallygame?
Then it's very strange when so much details is left out of the game. JM, Petter and the rest only test these games on a real WRC event for a short time and they have not the time or intrest to get in the depht to these things when they are going to compete...

There is why Milestone should be glad to have fans who even is in the sport on every level to give them advice to make a game that will get them to the top insted to close out fans or only let the fans ask questions when the game is already done!

Wrc 3 is going to be good and fun as I have been saying like you guys but they need to start listnen to fans all over the world and pick up something here and there...

RBR is so great just because they really used Richard Burns to 100% and was willing to create a REAL rally game/sim for real rallyfans in that time.
The time is changed but not the fans and the sport is still the same...

I hope but I doubt that Milestone will change in that point.
They want to creat games for people who like to play random games and some rallyfans mabye, but they are not willing to make a true and simlike rallygame because if that was the case, they already had succeed. I think its all about the $$$$$

Look at F1 for example... If you dont like and love that sport, then you hate the game - its all about just F1. Thats the same with RBR, its all about true rally!

I hope you guys understand what I trying to say here! Sorry for bad written english, cant sometimes explane what I want to say.

I like the time competing and I love to join tomorrow! See what times I will do with a stupid handcontrol.... :p ;)

[Plan9]

Astro & Plan9 I will post your questions later this evening ;)

Thank you. I can;t wait to see the rendering of Patrik's car!!!! I will download this game tonight on PS3 and try beat you guys!!!!! It looks like things are hotting up on here in the best possible way. Even if the game is not the best we can still race eachother...

[MrJan]

Milestone is not so great at that, to have a forum or something there the players/fans can speak with them and talk about wishes for future games or changes in games.
Many of us have great ideas how to make the game even better with small changes and its frustrating that not have a way to discuss with them. Codemasters, EA and many more have active forums for comunications with fans but not Milestone!

Yeah but both them ignore what the fans are saying and delete any comments that are negative.


I hope but I doubt that Milestone will change in that point.
They want to creat games for people who like to play random games and some rallyfans mabye, but they are not willing to make a true and simlike rallygame because if that was the case, they already had succeed. I think its all about the $$$$$

Of course they are, Milestone is a business, they are supposed to make money. It's naive to think that they'd be doing it for any other reason.

[Astro83]

Jan: They can not listnen to everyone of course and they can not do everyone happy - that I understand, but Milestone dont even try to listnen to their fans, its that who is sad...

And of course its all about money but you not understand, and that is my bad english.. You can choose to make a game who is about a sport, like rally - then you choose if that game is going to be as real as possible and have a great realism and then its called a sim - if you do that you may looses some money because the random gamers who not really is loving the sport rather choose to buy Dirt or some ****ty car game...

But Milestone seems to do the other way, they whant to be like codemasters, do a game for everyone like that ****ty Dirt series..

Rally is rally!!! Like F1 is F1....

Every real rally fan have since RBR got old around 2007-2008 seeking and really want a true rally game with todays tec, graphics and more!

But it seems that we never is going to get that where all the small detalis is taking care of and a game with true realism all the way and with realistic SOUND both in and outside the car.

I think wrc 4 will be better then wrc 3 of course and if so, the 4th game will be nice, its not going to be perfect because Milestone like arcade games more then true sim and dont care about small but importent details in this series.

Its not ALL about $$$$, its milions of real rallyfans out there, that should be enuff, if you are seriosly with thw WRC-license...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Downloading the demo now!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Got the demo. One stage tested.. Not to the end!

Camera is annoying as I drive with view of the car. Graphics are amazing and Citroen looks brilliant! A bit low at the front though... Damage is most extreme which I like... Stage is brilliant... BUT the car seems to float... Very odd feeling or it just me?

[lcd]

...Camera is annoying as I drive with view of the car....BUT the car seems to float... Very odd feeling or it just me?

Did you set all assist off? Did you unchecked that option the camera follows he drivers head movement?
Give yourself some time to get used to the new gameplay ;)

[lcd]

New Zealand (?) tiger!!!

http://i45.tinypic.com/2eajkvl.png

[xX Jojje Xx]

Looks really good,crazy excited about this game :)

Jojje

[GigiGalliNo1]

Car games like this one I use the camera view of the whole car on the stage... I will have to get use to it.. Unless settings can be changed but I like it so far! Have to get use to it as I played WRC2 right after and it's totally different! (I don't do inside camera angle when driving - I like to see road ahead)

I like that the graphics are excellent! You can see the tree reflection on the roofs and side of cars!! :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

And seriously, Spain in this game is amazing. I seriously again, cannot wait or NZ!! Imagine,,,, actual flowing roads where the car will bounce from camber to camber!!!!! =O

[spyros]

can i play it with a laptop and if yes what specs do i have?

[lcd]

can i play it with a laptop and if yes what specs do i have?

PC requirements have not been announced yet spyros, but I doubt you will enjoy the game on a laptop...

[Astro83]

Lcd: any more pics or info about NZ or something else in the world of wrc 3? :)
When was it that TeamVVV was going to realise new things about the game!? :)

[xX Jojje Xx]

Lcd: any more pics or info about NZ or something else in the world of wrc 3? :)
When was it that TeamVVV was going to realise new things about the game!? :)

Thursday or friday according to Alan ( TeamVVV ) .

Jojje

[Astro83]

Jojje: thats really nice, live his videos, he Has a good objectivity in his videos that I like. Looking forward to that then! :)

[Allyc85]

Played the demo a few times now and ive got to say im enjoying it.

The graphics, lighting and enviroments are a huge improvement and actually feel natural. Not like in WRC 2 where countries like Finland and Spain are so dull.

The sound still isnt right though. The co-driver is an improvement, but still makes stupid comments and misses the pace notes for th next couple corners. Car wise Its better but the cars dont sound natural and having been to the Acorpolis and Rally GB this year can deffinetely say they dont pop and bang anything like in the game.

Handling is better, though I do find it odd that the car slides more on tarmac than it does on gravel. I will reserve further judgment until I get the game and can make some setup changes.

[Astro83]

Allyc85: I totaly agree!

[Plan9]

Hey pin, when do we get to see Sandell's car?

[pino]

Hey pin, when do we get to see Sandell's car?

No reply from Sebastien yet, as for Sandell's car, I didn't post any photo as I am not sure it's allowed...not to mention that I don't get why you want me to post that photo :confused:

[Plan9]

Thanks for your response. I am just interested to see what it would look like in 3D. The other Minis have not looked that great. Although I have no complaints about the stage graphics mind you.

[lcd]

Here's a huge WRC3 blowout content from Alan Boiston and VVV!
Watch the first part, and follow the links towards the end to watch all rallies!!!
http://i45.tinypic.com/s67h8x.jpg

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[bennizw]

Loving the Mexico stage he has released together with one stage from all rallies! Narrow and very interesting, definitly the best I have seen so far. Sadly I hear the car sound hasn't been improved. I am sorry, but the Fiesta does NOT sound like that. Considering the fact that Milestone have said they have "recorded" car sounds properly this time, I am disappointed that they haven't made more of it. I am positive the car sound of the Fiesta isn't a record - maybe only when the car is at a standstill.

[Astro83]

Bennizw: regarding to the sound, exactly my point!!

Lcd: You're great!! :) thanks for this link!!! I have very much look forward to this! I will watch this later this evening when it's nice and queit at home! ;)
Thanks!

[306 Cosworth]

Got to say the rear spoiler on the Fiesta WRC looks absolutely hilarious. Who ever modelled that needs shooting! It's much wider and taller than what it is in real life. Can't believe they've had the WRC licence extended. It's embarassing.

[pino]

Got to say the rear spoiler on the Fiesta WRC looks absolutely hilarious. Who ever modelled that needs shooting! It's much wider and taller than what it is in real life. Can't believe they've had the WRC licence extended. It's embarassing.

Is a spoiler a big issue for you ? :s ;)

[xX Jojje Xx]

Even more excited now after watching those videos :)


Jojje

[MrJan]

Got to say the rear spoiler on the Fiesta WRC looks absolutely hilarious. Who ever modelled that needs shooting! It's much wider and taller than what it is in real life. Can't believe they've had the WRC licence extended. It's embarassing.


Is that really a deal breaker for you? Going from the demo they seem to have a game with good stage design and good handling, yet you won't get it because of something as petty as the spoiler? Just drive with the in car camera and your problems is solved.

p.s It's far from embarrassing.

[Astro83]

I'v seen all the videos now and I would like to say this...
Milestone should have a 1th price for this game - It looks really really good as for graphics!! It's a really big step up! They HAVE listnen to some of the fans and it seems that they have read a lot in forums like this for example.

One thing is the "start clock". I write a very early message on TeamVVV :s youtube site about this when the wrc 3 videos had the "old" start clock. I wrote that Milestone shold us a real lifelike on and it should countdown from 10. It took a few weeks or one or two month, then had Milestone change this little thing! :) :) It seems like they had read that and took the message with them! ;)

That's great Milestone! Lovely! Like it should be!! Thanks!

The physics looks to be good, not perfect but really ok! And that's ok for me because I see that Milestone is working there way up on all things for the future!!

Is there someone in here who knows if Milestone really is looking in this forum and read the things we talk about??
If it's like that then we should start a WRC 4 "forum" later this year to discuss the things we would like to be done in that game and more? Are you agree? :)

I cant wait for this game now, the car sound is the only thing i'm a little sad about but I hope it will be better in the upcomming games!

Thanks to TeamVVV and the guy in the videos, you're great!

[Allyc85]

Watched a couple videos of the stages and they are looking better. But seriously where are the jumps in Finland? You know, the things the countries rallys are famous for?!

[lcd]

Is there someone in here who knows if Milestone really is looking in this forum and read the things we talk about??

Yes, they are ;)

[Astro83]

Lcd: Thanks for the answear! Are you one of them?! ;)
That's good to hear, then we know that they see what we "want" to see in the game in future, like in WRC 4.
It's good to have a "channel" to communicate in...

Allyc:
I understand what you say and I think the same, it's sad that Finland not have the hills and jumps as in real life BUT im not angry about it because someone sad - I think that I'v heard that from a reporter who had talk with Milestone, that this year they had created "some new" rallys like NZ and Mexico BUT that they for next year is plannibg to remodell all of the rallys completly with satelite fotos and more to do the stages really real! I hope that I'v heard right! :) Milestone has done the wrc 3 game really good and stept up really well but I agree that this game is "far" from perfect! Still this game is going to be really good, the best rallygame in years I think!

But for WRC 4 they need to step up even further and I hope and think that they know it and feel the same!
For example they need to rewrite rally sweden, rally finland, and the others, create a real car sound, but all the small details in real rally stages together in the game and develop more sound setups and all of the setups, keep on going to create even better physics and all of this to step away from codemasters and other developers... This is going to be a REAL rallygame/games. DIRT series is not....

[bennizw]

Well said Astro! No news about support for clutch and h-shift gearing yet? I have asked both Milestone and Team VVV, but not recieved an answer...

[lcd]

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[pettersolberg29]

Mental lap! How on earth does he have such stability at pace on the tarmac. If I so much as touch the steering while flat out on the tarmac it just starts pendulum-ing and I spin. On the gravel section I counted I was between 3s-4s off which means I'm about 17s off on the tarmac! Crazy.

[MrJan]

Yeah I can't understand why he's so stable on the tarmac. Also he seems to cut corners on the grass, if I do that the wheels spin and the car slows down dramatically.

[pettersolberg29]

Maybe there's a way to decrease the sensitivity the analogue stick? Would certainly help me. Same problem as you Jan for the cutting - touch the grass and that's a second lost!

[bennizw]

Have to say, tried WRC 2 again today, and yes, WRC 3 is a good step up. Much better graphics, more reliable physics and improved sounds. Looking forward to getting hold of the full version!

[Astro83]

Bennizw: I agree, WRC and WRC 2 sucks BIG TIME!

WRC 3 is a very big step up and I'm very happy for Milestone and the guys behaind this. I'm very much looking forward to 12th Oktober! :p

[Astro83]

I have now look at all the videos from Alan - TeamVVV, and I must say that the new rallys Milestone have created for WRC 3 like Mexico, Monte carlo, NZ and maby some more rally looks absolutly beatiful!! Very very good looking nature and stages!! Really good!!! I cant really say that too much! So I really wait for WRC 4, when Milestone (I hope) have created "new" rallys for every country in the WRC. Really hope they do! Because one thing is sure, when they put their mind to it, then they can create some really good rally stages!! :)

One small thing I wanted they to do in this game was much much more spectators and marshalls all over the stages. Now in the videos I'v seen, it feels like a test stage.. Not a wrc stage sadly.

But this game will be cool but they have to put all the small details together in WRC 4 and absolutly create new graphics/stages for the other countrys! Lovely!! ;)

[lcd]

...One small thing I wanted they to do in this game was much much more spectators and marshalls all over the stages

Very much agreed! But, bigger crowds and many marshalls on the stages, unfortunately dramatically affect game's performance.
Don't forget that we want the crowd alive, with somekind of movement, not just 2D graphics, like In older rally games.
If Milestone can solve this tech problem In WRC4, you can be sure, they will add lots of people around all haipins waithing for the car to come.

[Astro83]

Lcd: Okey! That I didnt know.. Then I understand but I would love that if they could make it happend! But I understand why know! Thanks

[306 Cosworth]

Is that really a deal breaker for you? Going from the demo they seem to have a game with good stage design and good handling, yet you won't get it because of something as petty as the spoiler? Just drive with the in car camera and your problems is solved.

p.s It's far from embarrassing.

No it's not a deal breaker, you just expect a company with the license to produce the official WRC game to be able to model accurate looking WRC cars.

I once again won't be wasting my money on this game. Crap car sounds, crap stages which have little or no resemblance to the actual countries they represent, and just a crap game in general.

P.S I won't bother you lot on this thread after this post, so have fun with your arcade racer.

[lcd]

...P.S I won't bother you lot on this thread after this post, so have fun with your arcade racer.

Sorry you feel that way. No big deal actually here...

[lcd]

Vote If you want WRC 3 available on Steam!
Steam Greenlight :: WRC 3 Rally Championship (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=98783215)

[Astro83]

306 cosworth: :) you can't say that wrc 3 is going to be a ****ty rallygame/sim and that the new built rallys in this game is badly done from Milestone, that the stages in for example Mexico, NZ and Spain not look like that at all in real life!?
Then I wounder if you have seen a WRC event in real life???

Mexico and spain and nz is great! Milestone can absolutly do even more for the realism but it kills games like that rent a rally game - Dirt.

Wrc 3 will be great but wrc 4 must in future be much better to retire RBR for example...

I love rbr but it's ONLY for the sound,physics and the small details in that game who make me feel the true sport as if I was compete as I do in real life. Rbr do not have good graphics any more, it sucks.
Rbr is not perfect either...

Wrc 3 will place it self on a second place behaind rbr but i personally think that wrc 4 will take over the first place from rbr. I hope and it seems like Milestone is aiming for that when I look at this big step up!

It's so many "rallyfans" who only play Dirt and more of them ****ty games and loves Ken Block and his stunts and think - thats rally..
Noo no no no!! It's not!

But I understand that you are angry about sound and some more that Milestone not sadly have bern taking care of but it's a really BIG step up and we can't no longer compere this with the last two - not so good games! ;)

[lcd]

WRC3 Alan Boiston's VVV tv-camera replays 1-7 stages:

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[Astro83]

Thank you lcd for the latest updates! Very kind! Hehe

The Tv-camera angle looks good I think! Like rbr or some other rally game, looks good!
I think that we can take nice shots from the stages in that replay angle!

[bennizw]

Nice visuals, but god that car sounds like cars in rally games from the early 90´s.

[lcd]

Υoutube affects sounds, just like It hapenned In the demo videos. Final game will probably sound much better ;)

[bennizw]

I hope so! I will continue wining and hoping Milestone reads my posts and improves the sound for the final game ;)

[Astro83]

Bennizw: Yrs the sound is aweful! It sounds terrible sadly! Like CMR from PS2 the first game.

Milestone can not be happy with this sound result?!? :) They can't be...

One thing I really want to get an answear on from someone who knows is...
The sound is recorded with hightec mic from both inside and outside all the cars, can someone explane to me how the sound can be like this then????
If they recorded with the mic :s like they sad, then they game sound would be realistic like if it was real, right!?! :) I can not understand this???

Or is Milestone pulling our leg untill the realise?!
Because this sound IS NOT recorded from real wrc fiestas and so on... It's almost funny!

[bennizw]

God knows what they have done. It is at least not authentic sound recorded from the cars themselves - just compare it to the car sounds of DIRT 3 which frankly are the best sounds that have ever been in a rally game. Shame on them if they are happy with those sounds.....

[GigiGalliNo1]

Maybe they recorded sounds close to the exhaust where it might distort the recording and not away further as a spectator would here on the stage... Or a small distant away From the car in action...

[Astro83]

Gigigalli: No they have not! :) because even if it was the case, hhe sound would be much more lifelike then this. This is not sound at all like a real rallycar of any sort.

Lcd maby has an answear? ;)

[lcd]

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[bennizw]

Well that turned out pretty bad after the recording. It's hard to describe that extra tone they set on the engine - some kind of futuristic whistle. Maybe they f***ed up their recordings? ;)

[lcd]

Well that turned out pretty bad after the recording...

Exactly! Something hapenned on the way from the recordings to the game...I would blame the game's engine.

[Astro83]

I know that they recorded the sound for wrc 2 but I wounder if it's only a lie because of the extremly bad result! Because if they record the sound like that, wouldent the sound of the cars be extremly realistic and lifelike then?!?!? :o haha

Lcd: you talk about their "game engine". Can you explane to me how the game engine can have a influence on the car sound please?? I'm intrested to understand this because of beeing angry! ;) :)

[lcd]

I am not a developer, but a game's engine Is responsible for almost everything In a game:
performance, graphics, sounds, crowds, particles, lightings, weather e.t.c.
DiRT3 Is a result of the Codemasters’ award-winning EGO Engine Improved version ;)

http://www.deluge.co/?q=what-is-a-game-engine

[bennizw]

Well, Milestone better pump up that Spike Engine if they aren't going to continue producing games where cars sound like a bag of cats getting smacked into a brick wall!

[lcd]

...cars sound like a bag of cats getting smacked into a brick wall! :p

[Astro83]

Hehe

[Astro83]

Lcd: okey, thanks for the info! And the link. Then the spike-engine needs a little more work then.. :p Thanks anyway!

[lcd]

New WRC3 preview from Italy!
WRC 3 PROVATO! (http://www.simracingzone.net/SRZ/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=989%3Awrc3-provato&catid=14%3Arecensioni&Itemid=47)

[xX Jojje Xx]

New WRC3 preview from Italy!
WRC 3 PROVATO! (http://www.simracingzone.net/SRZ/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=989%3Awrc3-provato&catid=14%3Arecensioni&Itemid=47)

Nice review :)

From playing the demo I can't say I agree on the lack of speed, seems ok to me.
Interesting to read their positive comments about the sound. :confused:

Really want this game now.. :)

Jojje