Finnish rallying championship news

[pantealex]

The important question is what's happening in F-cup this year? :bounce:

Next event "Toivakka Ralli" has over 200 entries.

[AnttiL]

http://www.is.fi/ralli/art-2000005245116.html

Kalle Rovanperä will probably get a drivers license in advance when he turns 17 on October. That means he could compete in BRC, for example, and drive his own recce and road sections in Finland.

[AnttiL]

http://www.is.fi/ralli/art-2000005245116.html

Kalle Rovanperä will probably get a drivers license in advance when he turns 17 on October. That means he could compete in BRC, for example, and drive his own recce and road sections in Finland.

https://twitter.com/KalleRovanpera/status/873156669148155904

and he has started practicing driving.

[AnttiL]

Kalle won another Finnish Championship event, on roads he has never driven on before http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/20238/Livetulokset.html

[OldF]

Rallin SM-sarja‏ @RalliSM (https://twitter.com/RalliSM) 14m14 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/RalliSM/status/875329694324973568)More



Emil Lindholm on rallin Tulevaisuuden Tähti 2017! // Emil Lindholm is the Future Star 2017! #rallism (https://twitter.com/hashtag/rallism?src=hash) #rallyfinland (https://twitter.com/hashtag/rallyfinland?src=hash) #tulevaisuudentähti (https://twitter.com/hashtag/tulevaisuudent%C3%A4hti?src=hash)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCXLtcTXYAAEcT4.jpg

[pantealex]

and that means: Emil Lindholm has won complete packet to JWRC for WRC Rally Finland.

[Rally Power]

Is he related to Sebastian Lindholm?

[Co-FIN]

Is he related to Sebastian Lindholm?

Son.


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[pantealex]

Is he related to Sebastian Lindholm?

Basti has 3 children, Emil is youngest.

Axel was also rallydriver, has done RallyFinland atleast 2 times (with Civic and EVO)

Emmy was racetrack driver with Civic V1600 (I was her race engineer)

[AnttiL]

http://www.urheiluuutiset.com/jari-huttuselle-autoglym-ralli-ja-suomen-mm-ralli-skoda-r5lla-ensimmaiset-kisat-nelivetoisella/

Jari Huttunen to make his 4WD debut in a Skoda R5 in Autoglym ralli and Neste Rally Finland

[Mirek]

Didn't he already crash once with Fabia? Maybe I don't remmeber well who it was...

[janvanvurpa]

Basti has 3 children, Emil is youngest.

Axel was also rallydriver, has done RallyFinland atleast 2 times (with Civic and EVO)

Emmy was racetrack driver with Civic V1600 (I was her race engineer)


So did I read right that M.Grönholm is their Uncle?
Is everybody related there_
Who's your daddy?

[AnttiL]

So did I read right that M.Grönholm is their Uncle?
Is everybody related there_
Who's your daddy?

Sebastian Lindholm and Marcus Grönholm are cousins.

[janvanvurpa]

Sebastian Lindholm and Marcus Grönholm are cousins.

Yeah I knew that so what does that make these guys?/ ( true confession Antti, English is second language for me and i always had trouble with names for relations much beyond "Uncle"...those guys over next country west if you, that's my 3rd language and their clear way "morfar, farfar, morbror" that was better so )

Oh anther thing, please..We you said "(I was her race engineer)" what do you mean engineer?
Mekaniker? Skruva o banka p[ paneller?

I hear that and in Engrish an engineer is some guy at desk with pocket protector and 2cm thick glasses who is capable of occasionally drawing stuff which after giant battles might be a part, might just be junk....mainly a nerdy guy who biologically CANNOT hold a wrench without somebody getting hurt..
hence the name "injur-near"

But I hear that a lot...
so what do you mean?

[pantealex]

Yeah I knew that so what does that make these guys?/ ( true confession Antti, English is second language for me and i always had trouble with names for relations much beyond "Uncle"...those guys over next country west if you, that's my 3rd language and their clear way "morfar, farfar, morbror" that was better so )

Oh anther thing, please..We you said "(I was her race engineer)" what do you mean engineer?
Mekaniker? Skruva o banka p[ paneller?

I hear that and in Engrish an engineer is some guy at desk with pocket protector and 2cm thick glasses who is capable of occasionally drawing stuff which after giant battles might be a part, might just be junk....mainly a nerdy guy who biologically CANNOT hold a wrench without somebody getting hurt..
hence the name "injur-near"

But I hear that a lot...
so what do you mean?

I never touched the car, so I must be that guy who biologically CANNOT hold a wrench ;)
I just talked with her, a lot

[janvanvurpa]

I never touched the car, so I must be that guy who biologically CANNOT hold a wrench ;)
I just talked with her, a lot


Ah ha! Now you see why I was confuse...

So why are you "race engineer"?
Engineers design stuff that is over-complicated and intended to drive me insane if I'm makng it in my role as machinist (svarv o fräs) or in my roll as mechanic or meccano. Trust me, many times if who design some crap was around they would be 'inhur-near"..

So help me understand cause I see that word used a lot and really (not tooooo serious but then again I never am) but really curious...

[electroliquid]

I never touched the car<...>I just talked with her, a lot

So more like spotter?

[pantealex]

So more like spotter?

Mental trainer :)

but they called me "race engineer"

I had 4 female "clients"

[janvanvurpa]

Mental trainer :)

but they called me "race engineer"

I had 4 female "clients"

My last year doing International moto-cross I had a drop dead beautiful English girl Linda as mechanic...
I worked on the diesel van and the bike..
She worked on me...
Oi oi oi results went downhill..:stareup:

But i was a very happy man...:dozey:

[AnttiL]

Lots of crashes on the Autoglym Rally - Greensmith, Nordgren and Huttunen all went out. Actually it was quite rare that in a Finnish national event the top four places were taken by foreigners (Neuville, Veiby, Arai, Katsuta).

[AnttiL]

Route and schedule for Lake City Rally which begins today. http://lakecityrally.fi/?page_id=391

I'm going to Uskila 1 tomorrow

[pantealex]

Route and schedule for Lake City Rally which begins today. http://lakecityrally.fi/?page_id=391

I'm going to Uskila 1 tomorrow

I will start watching it live today evening.

[AnttiL]

I will start watching it live today evening.

You mean the streams? There's supposedly some good stuff again at www.moottoriurheilu.tv

[AnttiL]

Eerik Pietarinen is a name to remember for the future. Two stage wins out of three, third stage win ruined by a Swedish R4 Mitsubishi.

Some organizing problems on the third stage, an accident requiring ambulance and then after the race re-started a civil vehicle got onto the stage slowing down competitors.

[samzon100]

Some photos from Real Park - Lake City Rally Tampere 29-30.09.2017
(SS 1 and SS 3)

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Real+Park+-+Lake+City+Rally++09.17/

[AnttiL]

Total domination from Eerik Pietarinen, 9/10 stage wins, about s/km faster than the old champions

[pantealex]

You mean the streams? There's supposedly some good stuff again at www.moottoriurheilu.tv

No, I meant LIVE as LIVE, you know outside. I almost never watch rally from "TV"

[Rallyper]

Total domination from Eerik Pietarinen, 9/10 stage wins, about s/km faster than the old champions

Pietarinen did a good work, being first time in R5 car. No doubt he could be a BIG future star. But can´t understand the big differences. Was it tactics from the others thinking of points and championship?
Also a question if he was local hero, living in the neighbourhood of the rally?
No offence, just wondering.

[giù tutto!]

Pietarinen did proper job, but how often has a foreign driver set the fastest time in overall with Mitsubishi in Finnish championship????

Jacob Jansson from Sweden, the Man of the rally. He was one second slower than Pietarinen in the two forest stages on Friday and he was rallying first time ever in Finland.

Give him a chance!!!

[Rallyper]

Pietarinen did proper job, but how often has a foreign driver set the fastest time in overall with Mitsubishi in Finnish championship????

Jacob Jansson from Sweden, the Man of the rally. He was one second slower than Pietarinen in the two forest stages on Friday and he was rallying first time ever in Finland.

Give him a chance!!!

+10 :) :)

[AnttiL]

Pietarinen did a good work, being first time in R5 car. No doubt he could be a BIG future star. But can´t understand the big differences. Was it tactics from the others thinking of points and championship?
Also a question if he was local hero, living in the neighbourhood of the rally?
No offence, just wondering.

Well Juha Salo needed a win so no reason for him to do any tactics. Asunmaa probably played it safe.

Pietarinen is from Southern Finland, not from the Tampere area.

It would have been interesting to have Rovanperä on the event for comparison, he wasn't this dominant on the two Finnish rallies he did this year.

[Essaj]

Well Juha Salo needed a win so no reason for him to do any tactics. Asunmaa probably played it safe.

Pietarinen is from Southern Finland, not from the Tampere area.

It would have been interesting to have Rovanperä on the event for comparison, he wasn't this dominant on the two Finnish rallies he did this year.

While this is true Pietarinen also had a starting position advantage which Rovanpera did not have in his 2 starts in Finland this year.
Also I watched most of the live stages and everyone else seemed super careful except Pietarinen, it almost looked like they weren't even trying which I don't understand. I understand that Asunmaa had no reason to risk but why Mänty, Turunen and Salo were so much slower I have no idea.
But still I have to give credit to Eerik he was super impressive with almost no experience with R5 and I hope that he is able to drive R5 car next year atleast on FRC and maybe even on some international races.
Maybe Neste Ralli is going to be the event when we will see those two fighting against each other? and we can't count Juuso Nordgren out either.
Plus Huttunen driving Hyundai next year. All these Finnish rallying prospects are going to make 2018 exciting for sure!

I think we're going to need couple more "finnish" teams to WRC to fit all these guys on top cars ;)

[electroliquid]

Make Finland great again!!!

[Hartusvuori]

Also I watched most of the live stages and everyone else seemed super careful except Pietarinen, it almost looked like they weren't even trying which I don't understand.

I was not spectating the event live, but when someone is close to 1s/km faster than everyone else, everyone else looks as if they weren't even trying. This was just one event, but it's hard to downtalk Pietarinen's achievement. He was simply super fast.

[Co-FIN]

While this is true Pietarinen also had a starting position advantage which Rovanpera did not have in his 2 starts in Finland this year.
Also I watched most of the live stages and everyone else seemed super careful except Pietarinen, it almost looked like they weren't even trying which I don't understand. I understand that Asunmaa had no reason to risk but why Mänty, Turunen and Salo were so much slower I have no idea.
But still I have to give credit to Eerik he was super impressive with almost no experience with R5 and I hope that he is able to drive R5 car next year atleast on FRC and maybe even on some international races.
Maybe Neste Ralli is going to be the event when we will see those two fighting against each other? and we can't count Juuso Nordgren out either.
Plus Huttunen driving Hyundai next year. All these Finnish rallying prospects are going to make 2018 exciting for sure!

I think we're going to need couple more "finnish" teams to WRC to fit all these guys on top cars ;)

All drivers driving michelin tyres had big issues in Tampere (mänty, salo, nikara, asunmaa). For some reason tire temperature was super low even after long stage. Almost twice lower than Pirellis. Overall they strugled with the grip and pirelli drivers liked the grip.

But still Pietarinen did super job! Hopefully he can have good package next year!

[Rallyper]

Take a look at Jacob Jansson/Stefan Gustafsson, Mitsu Evo X on SS4 in SM-Ralli Tampere. Stunning drive!

Now - did he run on Pirellis as well, or on Michelins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZncUoq9utsk

[Co-FIN]

Pirellis, but he was still super quick also. Though he's running position was 27 or something so hard to compare.

[AnttiL]

I was not spectating the event live, but when someone is close to 1s/km faster than everyone else, everyone else looks as if they weren't even trying. This was just one event, but it's hard to downtalk Pietarinen's achievement. He was simply super fast.

To me it looked like proper rally driving all the time, and there were offs for some of the top drivers, meaning that they sure were trying. Pietarinen didn't even look that spectacular, but maybe that's why he's so fast.

In the best possible scenario for 2018 we could have Latvala, Lappi, Hänninen and Suninen in WRC class, with Huttunen, Rovanperä and Nordgren in WRC2. Hopefully Pietarinen joins that group soon.

[AnttiL]

No, I meant LIVE as LIVE, you know outside. I almost never watch rally from "TV"

I just wanted to add this, it may be just lost in translation, but to me spectating a rally on the stage is more than just "watching". When you open your laptop and press play on a stream, that's just "watching". :)

[JJ93]

Pirellis, but he was still super quick also. Though he's running position was 27 or something so hard to compare.

Number 27 but was seeded to start after number 16


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[AnttiL]

Take a look at Jacob Jansson/Stefan Gustafsson, Mitsu Evo X on SS4 in SM-Ralli Tampere. Stunning drive!

Now - did he run on Pirellis as well, or on Michelins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZncUoq9utsk

Jansson will contest the 2018 Finnish season with his Mitsu :)

[pantealex]

Other confirmed is Emil Lindholm with Fabia R5 (1st driver in new GRX Try Out, car is from Marcus Grönholm and serviced by Printsport)

99% sure is Eerik Pietarinen with Fabia R5 (he has entered in small village event 6.january 2018 with Gardemaister car)

[Hartusvuori]

Eerik Pietarinen now confirmed for full FRC season in Gardemeister's car and Pirellis. They are also eyeing on Rally Finland and maybe even other WRC2 start later in the season.

TGS plans to run 2-4 cars on each FRC event. TGS is now also entering and servicing Marko Mänty's Fabia.

A good handful of entries now for FRC and hopefully some more still. For example no talk yet about Rallybaron's two i20 R5s. Pienizanek have entered Arctic Rally and runs a Printsport car now. Maybe more events in Finland for him?

[electroliquid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Ss0JG0X4Q anybody knows where to find Kaloppi ralli results?

[br21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Ss0JG0X4Q anybody knows where to find Kaloppi ralli results?

http://www.mut-palvelu.fi/online2011/tulos.php?yk=all&ek=m&lk=1

[pantealex]

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=6219

Entry list with numbers to ArcticRally/Tunturiralli, total 135 crews. 18 x R5, 3 x WRC, one S2000 and one R-Lite/Proto4wd

[wwbroe]

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=6219

Entry list with numbers to ArcticRally/Tunturiralli, total 135 crews. 18 x R5, 3 x WRC, one S2000 and one R-Lite/Proto4wd

Very nice entrylisthttp://www.motorsportforums.com/images/icons/icon14.png

[pantealex]

Very nice entrylisthttp://www.motorsportforums.com/images/icons/icon14.png

Level of foreign competitors is very good, up to 5 of those are Top10 material.

[Hartusvuori]

Jari Ketomaa will drive Rallybaron's i20 R5 this season in FRC. He will most probably start from his home event in Mikkeli in February. He will drive on DMacks.

[samzon100]

Arctic Lapland Rally 2018

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Arctic+Lapland+Rally++01.18/ :crazy:

[electroliquid]

Very nice photos ;) But there is thread about rally in Finland http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?28702-Finnish-rallying-championship-news/page105

[COD]

Young drivers excelled in Arctic rally.
Pietarinen 1st dominating the event. Lindholm 2nd after Asunmaa went off on last stage from second place. Katsuta a somewhat surprise 3rd

[Essaj]

Quite a line up for SM Vaakuna-Ralli! 16 R5's - 11 Fabias, 3 Fiesta's, 1 Peugeot and 1 Hyundai!

Title favourite Eerik Pietarinen is looking for his 3rd win in a row.
Kalle Rovanperä is back defending his last years overall victory.
Former WRC driver Jani Paasonen back for his first proper rally since 2012.
Former WRC2 driver Jari Ketomaa's first outing in Hyundai R5.
Fast Russian Nikolay Gryazin also looking to improve from his last years 3rd place finish.
+ many others.

https://image.prntscr.com/image/zk5tB_4kSjyHAMnkK-njew.png

[pantealex]

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=6337

Entry list with numbers to SM VaakunaRalli, Mikkeli (held same time as WRC Sweden, that is why some "top" drivers are missing)

[tolis]

Question to finnish:
I see strange results in Keurusselkä 5. Miniralli. 2WD faster than 4WD! And for sure all did the same stages, right? What happened?

4WD: http://www.ajaksi.fi/docs/Keuruu18/4wd_ylk.pdf
2WD: http://www.ajaksi.fi/docs/Keuruu18/2wd_ylk.pdf

[tolis]

Hi! Any help about the previous post?

[elmerim]

Hi! Any help about the previous post?

Fast young guys on 2WD cars and gentlemen drivers with old Evo's on 4WD class. Quite common to have these kind of results on smaller events in Finland.

[samzon100]

F-Cup JMK-Ralli Jämsä 03.03.2018
SS 1

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/F-Cup+JMK-Ralli+J%C3%A4ms%C3%A4+03.18/

[samzon100]

SM-Pohjanmaa Ralli 15-16.6.2018
EK 2, EK 3, EK 5 ja EK 8

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Pohjanmaa+Ralli+06.18/

[dimviii]

is Lindholm so much faster from Veiby?

[AnttiL]

Veiby taking it easy after having crashed too much? Also, Veiby first on the road.

[AnttiL]

Eerik Pietarinen is the new Finnish champion in his first R5 season. Hopefully we see him abroad soon!

[Essaj]

Eerik Pietarinen is the new Finnish champion in his first R5 season. Hopefully we see him abroad soon!

I think it's going to happen already this season and Most likely in Wales. He also did recce for Germany.

[pantealex]

Some minor rallies in Italy too (he already did 1 with "Pirelli" 208R5)

[AnttiL]

Some minor rallies in Italy too (he already did 1 with "Pirelli" 208R5)

He’s doing Adriatico this year

[Rallyper]

So guys. We (my son, grandson and son in law) are visiting TeijoTalot Ralli this coming weekend. If you have some good spots on Saturday you can PM me. Thanks in advance.

[Jarek Z]

Nikolay Gryazin beats all the Finns (including current champion Eerik Pietarinen) on their home ground and wins TeijoTalot Ralli.

Final results of TeijoTalot Ralli:
1. Nikołaj Griazin/Jarosław Fiedorow (RUS) Skoda Fabia R5 50.16,8
2. Emil Lindholm/Mikael Korhonen (FIN) Skoda Fabia R5 +21,2
3. Eerik Pietarinen/Juhana Raitanen (FIN) Skoda Fabia R5 +23,4
4. Teemu Asunmaa/Ville Mannisenmäki (FIN) Skoda Fabia R5 +37,5
5. Juha Salo/Topi Luhtinen (FIN) Skoda Fabia R5 +40,3
6. Henrik Pietarinen/Juha Lummaa (FIN) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +2.14,3
7. Joonas Tokee/Jani Salo (FIN) Subaru Impreza WRX STI +3.04,9
8. Jukka Kasi/Henri Ania (FIN) Skoda Fabia R5 +3.21,6
9. Ville Hautamäki/Enni Mälkönen (FIN) Subaru Impreza WRX STI +3.48,2
10. Pasi Lyytikäinen/Panu Plosila (FIN) Skoda Fabia R5 +4.10,2

[AnttiL]

Great drive from Gryazin, but it’s worth mentioning the championship was already settled before the rally

[dimviii]

Lindholm again very fast.
Seems this is the youngster you have to watch close the Finns.
Which is the experience he has?

[AnttiL]

Lindholm again very fast.
Seems this is the youngster you have to watch close the Finns.
Which is the experience he has?

This is his first R5 season.

[Rallyper]

Lovely rally. I think quite undramatic, but very fast. Nice but cold day outside Turku yesterday. Now back home again in Sweden...

[dimviii]

This is his first R5 season.

did he followed Fin championship?

[AnttiL]

did he followed Fin championship?

He did the full Finnish championship season and finished second. Better than last year’s champion

[AnttiL]

Virtual chicanes will be taken into use for 2019

https://www.autourheilu.fi/uutiset/rallin-saantoihin-merkittavia-muutoksia-kaudelle-2019/

[PLuto]

Virtual chicanes will be taken into use for 2019

https://www.autourheilu.fi/uutiset/rallin-saantoihin-merkittavia-muutoksia-kaudelle-2019/

I dont understand finish, but only words "virtual chicanes" makes me crazy...

[AnttiL]

I dont understand finish, but only words "virtual chicanes" makes me crazy...

It means an area with speed display, with drivers required to slow down to a certain speed, for example 50 km/h before they can start going normally again. Another option demands a full stop and start.

Compared to normal chicanes it reduces work from the organizers in the form of carrying haybales and having someone to put them back if someone hits the bales. Also, you cannot hit the bales and thus break your car, or break the bale which would make the chicane then easier for others. And as we've seen with WRC this year, moving the chicanes can be a drag. Although I could also see problems with distinguishing whether someone actually did hit the required speed on the required area or not.

In Finland the problem is that the public roads are usually easier to obtain for rallying and they also withstand better rallying. In the last Finnish championship event we had a stage with 139.71 km/h of winning average speed on a Skoda Fabia R5. That stage had many straight or almost straight parts where the cars went for kilometres completely flat out.

Another option would be to cut the fast sections by splitting the stage in shorter parts, but this always requires more people working on the stage.

[PLuto]

It means an area with speed display, with drivers required to slow down to a certain speed, for example 50 km/h before they can start going normally again. Another option demands a full stop and start.

Compared to normal chicanes it reduces work from the organizers in the form of carrying haybales and having someone to put them back if someone hits the bales. Also, you cannot hit the bales and thus break your car, or break the bale which would make the chicane then easier for others. And as we've seen with WRC this year, moving the chicanes can be a drag. Although I could also see problems with distinguishing whether someone actually did hit the required speed on the required area or not.

In Finland the problem is that the public roads are usually easier to obtain for rallying and they also withstand better rallying. In the last Finnish championship event we had a stage with 139.71 km/h of winning average speed on a Skoda Fabia R5. That stage had many straight or almost straight parts where the cars went for kilometres completely flat out.

Another option would be to cut the fast sections by splitting the stage in shorter parts, but this always requires more people working on the stage.

Thanks for translation. But I still think this is a stupid idea which should never come to this sport... Keep stop and go and going through boxes to circuits, but dont bring it to rallysport...

[AnttiL]

Yeah, I know it feels super awkward but I would rather just not have any chicanes at all, but it seems there' s benefits over traditional chicanes.

Another benefit I forgot to list: a traditional chicane is difficult for the recce because the chicanes cannot be put in place until the road is closed, and recce is done when the road is still open for public traffic. A virtual chicane only needs to mark the area during recce somehow.

[AnttiL]

https://rallysportmag.com/finland-to-test-virtual-chicanes-on-high-speed-rallies/

From the horse’s mouth on virtual chicanes. But hopefully not for Rally Finland, although that would allow driving Ouninpohja again...

[Mirek]

Just an honest question... What's the problem with 1km long straight road? Apart that it's boring as hell for the competitors there's nothing particularly dangerous about it. The organizers shall try to avoid using such sections simply from sporting quality point of view but IMO chicanes are better to be used where there is some reasonably high danger instead. The average speed value is anyway like catching own shadow because the cars and tyres simply grow faster with time.

[AnttiL]

Obviously the danger is in the following corner. If the driver has driven at 180 km/h for a minute, he could get speed blind. Similarly, a puncture or similar techinical defect could be more dangerous when the speed is 180 km/h as opposed to 100 km/h.

My quick thoughts on virtual chicanes https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2018/10/23/virtual-chicane-dilemma/

[Rallyper]

I have no problem if the car should be stopped to 0 km/h on a stopline 75 m before corner after a long strait.

Or why not put a moment of skills, to have the driver to park inside kones 90 degrees to the left or right, and then reverse out on the stage again ... :) :)

[PLuto]

I have read the article and I have seen the onboards. And it didnt changed my mind - it is totally stupid idea...

[AnttiL]

I have read the article and I have seen the onboards. And it didnt changed my mind - it is totally stupid idea...

Is it just feeling based opinion or can you explain it further? I'm not saying I like or hate them, I just want to know more.

[PLuto]

Rallysport was always about to be fastest from point A to point B. To go through road designated by organiser. But road or obstacles which are visible, showing, how the crew is able to go fastest through that passages. It is basic purpose of rallysport to go as fast as possible. I cannot imagine to slow down (or stop) on one specific place "for nothing", only to allow this virtual chicane comedy. I also dont believe that checking the correct speed there should work without problems. I also dont understand giving this chicanes only to reduce the average speed in stage, it is complete nonsense. Each chicane should be there mainly for safety issues, on place, where you really want slow down crews because there is very dangerous place, too straight part or you are before entering the village. But it still should be visible by eye, that crew went through that passage correctly or not...

[AnttiL]

I also dont understand giving this chicanes only to reduce the average speed in stage, it is complete nonsense. Each chicane should be there mainly for safety issues, on place, where you really want slow down crews because there is very dangerous place, too straight part or you are before entering the village. But it still should be visible by eye, that crew went through that passage correctly or not...

I don't remember any mentions of average speed alone, I only used it as an example to show how fast the stages can be. But what Henrik Frank says in the interview is that they intend to reduce the time the cars spend with their top speed, and I would assume the need of chicanes is at the ends of long straights / fast sections or before dangers.

And this video from 1000 Lakes Rally 1958 proves that braking tests have been a part of rallying before :D https://youtu.be/qnHhdAezzyc?t=622

[dimviii]

But it still should be visible by eye, that crew went through that passage correctly or not...

.It will generate many arguements if somebody punished ,while he cant check other competitors passages.

[Rally Power]

And this video from 1000 Lakes Rally 1958 proves that braking tests have been a part of rallying before :D https://youtu.be/qnHhdAezzyc?t=622

Yep, it’s quite ironic to see the Nordics, who gave the sport its modern configuration, suggesting the use of virtual chicanes. Hope this BS won't go anywhere.

[PLuto]

On this video from Catalunya you can find stupid version of chicane - made by tyres and easily destroyable - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhoyOfjwUbA

[AnttiL]

On this video from Catalunya you can find stupid version of chicane - made by tyres and easily destroyable - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhoyOfjwUbA

And there's four of them...

[pantealex]

Juha Salo has sold his 208 R5 but will continue his career, new car not public yet. Also new owner of 208 R5 not known.

[AnttiL]

Juha Salo has sold his 208 R5 but will continue his career, new car not public yet. Also new owner of 208 R5 not known.

His 208 R5 was also binned at the end of the season. He has been quite loyal to Peugeot although it’s a handicap to the Skodarmy

[pantealex]

Juha Salo has sold his 208 R5 but will continue his career, new car not public yet. Also new owner of 208 R5 not known.

208 sold to Japan

Salo has Fabia now.

[rp]

Emil Lindholm will drive Pintsport´s Volkswagen Polo GTI R5 in Ralli SM.

Also SM2 Champion 2018 Henrik Pietarinen is aiming to drive TGS`s SKODA Fabia R5.

The other Fabia drivers Teemu Asunmaa, Marko Mänty and Kristian Kiviniemi should be there also...

[AnttiL]

Valtteri Bottas will do Arctic Rally in a Fiesta RS WRC with Timo Rautiainen co-driving

[wwbroe]

Valtteri Bottas will do Arctic Rally in a Fiesta RS WRC with Timo Rautiainen co-driving

What team's car will he be using and will it be new WRC Fiesta17?

[AnttiL]

M-Sport obviously, we’ll find out later the model

[wwbroe]

M-Sport obviously, we’ll find out later the model

Ok, thanks for info

[Ucci]

Valtteri Bottas will do Arctic Rally in a Fiesta RS WRC with Timo Rautiainen co-driving
Welcome Valtteri on the rally stages. Does anybody knows if Valtteri has some previous expirience in rally or this event is going to bis debut?

[AnttiL]

Welcome Valtteri on the rally stages. Does anybody knows if Valtteri has some previous expirience in rally or this event is going to bis debut?

Should be very first rally

[Rally Power]

Valtteri Bottas will do Arctic Rally in a Fiesta RS WRC with Timo Rautiainen co-driving

Didn't know that current WRC cars were allowed in Finish rallys. Do they score for the championship?

[Tarmop]

Neuville in his 2017 i20 WRC, Autoglym Rally 2017 was the first.

[AnttiL]

Neuville in his 2017 i20 WRC, Autoglym Rally 2017 was the first.

It’s not a Finnish championship rally.

WRC cars will run outside points scoring championships. It’s not even the only such class. Overall points are not awarded anyway.

[pantealex]

Didn't know that current WRC cars were allowed in Finish rallys. Do they score for the championship?

There is own class for those (class 7 WRC newer than 2002 and R-GT + factory cars without homologation)

Those are just for Overall win, nothing to do with Championship points.

Al-Rajhi has been several time in Arctic Rally with Fiesta RS WRC + some other drivers. Check "EWRC" for info

[rp]

Also World RX driver Niclas Grönholm will make his rally debut in Arctic Lapland Rally driving Printsport´s SKODA Fabia R5. The codriver will be Antti Linnaketo.

His father will surely be proud, when this finally happens :) It´s just too late if trying to make a switch from rallycross to rallying, but probably this is not that kind of aim...

[pantealex]

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=7717
Entrylist for Tunturiralli/ Arctic Lapland Rally (same time as WRC Monte)
only in Finland JWRC competitors leave after all other R2 drivers.
Lots of foreign drivers also with bigger numbers, check it out.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallism.fi/content/en/1/383119/20068/Lindholm%20presents%20new%20Volkswagen%20Polo%20GT I%20R5%20in%20Finland.html

[gheeD]

Bottas getting up to speed, very mature approach I must say for first rally ever and in a WRC car. Probably also last one for a while so best to stay on the road as long as possible :D

Siikakämä 42.69km and 30s off the best time, a tenth quicker than veteran Juha Salo

[Zeakiwi]

Lindholm's average speed for Arctic Lapland rally 123 km/h. Would have to be one of the faster rally winning average speeds for an R5 ??

[samzon100]

SM-Arctic Lapland Rally 25-26.01.2019
SS 2, SS 5, SS 7 ja SS 9

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Arctic+Lapland+Rally+2019++01.19/

[Mirek]

Lindholm's average speed for Arctic Lapland rally 123 km/h. Would have to be one of the faster rally winning average speeds for an R5 ??

IMHO the fastest average speed with R5 you find in Hungary. Last year there was even a Székesfehérvár Rallye with overall average speed 133,1 km/h with an R5...

[br21]

Arctic difficult as every year, this time the ambient temperatures were really low which was not making anything more easy. Lindholm showed good pace, Polo seems to be fast and also his road position was good.

[Mikkojuntunen]

Valtteri Bottas Arctic Lapland Rally 2019 Live

https://youtu.be/ICB1_4KNUf0

[pantealex]

IMHO the fastest average speed with R5 you find in Hungary. Last year there was even a Székesfehérvár Rallye with overall average speed 133,1 km/h with an R5...

Arctic had 3x SSS with average speed under 75 km/h...

[Mirek]

SSS play rather negligible role in total average speed because they make only a tiny part of the total distance and the average speed is defined as a total distance per total time. You can try to do the math yourself ;)

[Jarek Z]

Some cool photos from Arctic Lapland Rally by Jari Nurminen:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/gallery/show/id/1548840414?pg=1

[dimviii]

Κatsuta on Pirellis!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0k_yk3WsAAt30w.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0k_1CHW0AAQRmk.jpg

[dimviii]

Κatsuta managed to pass Lindholm at last stage and took the win for 0,8 sec
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/54866-sm-itaralli-2019/?s=223197

Katsuta spun at ss3

[AnttiL]

Katsuta lost a lot being first on the road in fresh snow. In SS4 even a gpN Mitsu was faster than him

[Co-driven]

For me, interesting to see Katsuta on Pirelli tyres.

[Tom206wrc]

And once again, brilliant result of Jonas Lindroos, 10th overall at Itäralli :cool:

[Hartusvuori]

Finnish rallying championship continues on Saturday with the first gravel event of the season. The event now is held in Riihimäki. Surrounding roads have been used for rallies numerous times in the championship, in local events and also some in Rally Finland in early 2010's the latest. Of course, the selling points for this event are Jari Huttunen and Takamoto Katsuta both in World Rally Cars. The R5 turnout is really poor, only seven crews will start, but otherwise the entry list is nice with over 160 cars. This event is a combined FRC and junior FRC event. (Note that Mini R4 does not start due to homologation delays.)

Entry list: http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/30154/L%C3%A4ht%C3%B6lista.html

Itinerary in Finnish time: EK1 12.07 | EK2 12.35 | EK3 13.17 | EK4 13.32 | EK5 14.59 | EK6 15.27 | EK7 15.55 | EK8 18.13 | EK9 18.56

Live results: http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/20238/Livetulokset.html%20

GPS tracking links will be added tomorrow to rallism.fi.

Points table for SM1 before Riihimäki-ralli:
1. Teemu Asunmaa / Jani Salo 62 p
2. Emil Lindholm / Mikael Korhonen 59 p
3. Juha Salo / Topi Luhtinen 56 p
4. Jari Ketomaa / Marko Sallinen 27 p
5. Henrik Pietarinen / Juha Lummaa 26 p

(Ketomaa and Pietarinen are not starting this event.)

[gheeD]

gps tracking: https://gps.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/14R19/

gps split times: http://gpspekka.kapsi.fi/rally/?id=14R19

[samzon100]

Pictures SM-Riihimäki Ralli 24-25.05.2019
(EK 2 ja EK 5)

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Riihim%C3%A4ki+Ralli+05.19/
1772

[dimviii]

Joonas Lindroos rolling his 208 at end of ss 1.Crew ok.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9CTaCRXUAAPO6b.jpg

[samzon100]

Pictures Pohjanmaa-Ralli 14-15.06.2019
(SS 3, SS 4, SS 7 and SS 9)

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Pohjanmaa+Ralli+06.19/

[AnttiL]

Teemu Asunmaa won the SM1 class championship! It went down to the wire, before the last super special he was only five seconds ahead of Juha Salo, who would have won if they had switched places.

[Hartusvuori]

Finnish championship calendar for 2020:

Snow
1) 16.-18.1. Arctic Lapland Rally, Rovaniemi, Rovaniemen UA
2) 7.-8.2. SM Ralli Mikkeli (RSJM), Mikkelin UA
3) 28.-29.2. Itäralli, Joensuu (RSJM), Joensuun UA

Gravel
4) 12.-13.6. SM O.K-Auto Ralli, Kouvola (RSJM), Kouvolan Seudun Autourheilijat
5) 4.-5.9. SM Ralli, Oulu (RSJM), Ni-Ra Oy
6) 25.-26.9. Pohjanmaa SM-Ralli, Seinäjoki (RSJM), Pohjanmaaralli ry

Some minor changes, like Mikkeli returning after one season break as planned and Kouvola back to gravel. Seinäjoki is pushed further in the calendar and serves now as the season final in late September. Biggest change is a gravel event in Oulu, one could say a newcomer, it's been a while since FRC event in Oulu.

On regulations, which are still undecided, but R4 Kit should be there allowed for points (probably SM2?). Also, they are planning to ditch "old Civics class" (2000cc) and introduce V1600 class instead with FRC value. That is a class for almost road cars with minor changes, very much suitable for drivers in the beginning of their careers, affordable.

[samzon100]

Pictures Mad Croc SM-Ralli Salo-Turku 27-28.9.2019
(SS 1, SS 3, SS 7 and SS 9)



https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Mad+Croc+SM-Ralli+Salo-Turku+09.19/

[pantealex]

TGS (Gardemaister) team drivers for 2020
-Teemu Asunmaa Fabia EVO
-Emil Lindholm Fabia EVO
-Mikko Heikkilä Fabia R5

[pantealex]

First entries have appeared for ArcticRally (Tunturiralli in Finnish)

Rakan Al-Rashed, Polo R5
Kari Hämäläinen, Fabia EVO
Veli-Matti Kaikkonen, Fiesta R5
Alexander Strobl, C3 R5

Daniel Alonso Villaron KIA Rio N5
Jari Saarnio Suzuki Swift S1600
Lasse Lampi Mitsubishi Galant VR4 ;)

[HarriK]

135 entries to Arctic Rally.
4 wrc cars. (or lets say 3) and 23pc R5 cars.
- Bottas #77 citroen ds3 wrc
- Rovanperä Toyota wrc
- Koskelo Ford Fiesta WRC (Janpro)
- Eskelinen Mitsubishi WRC

I will travel also to watch this rally next weekend.

See all entries https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=9190&edit=0

Click "osallistujat"

[br21]

I'm here already few days, lovely weather, perfect road conditions.

[janvanvurpa]

Hej guys I post this on the WRC side but maybe it work better here since its aa question about specifically Finnish event, maybe somebody really knows what the correct answwer is...

Bar talk....Hej alla ni galna Finska ralli-dårar:.

Can some of you guys look at this short little clip of some mad-man named Pasi Erikilä in a bad-ass Toyota in a rallisprint and tell me what the big signs are with numbers he passes with such grace and beauty??
I'm guessing interval time or splits or something Here's the vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcVJEHoTUtw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2FrAs8blmkxQTQZmXb8YPOQLOZcuhg9tI5fFpjY caRm8sIEC53w4FLKZI

Sure its rallyiprint, that much i can read and no kau-drajver is a big hint, but some poor innocent Yanks are asking what the big signs with the numbers are.....so what are they?

[Hartusvuori]

Hej guys I post this on the WRC side but maybe it work better here since its aa question about specifically Finnish event, maybe somebody really knows what the correct answwer is...


Sure its rallyiprint, that much i can read and no kau-drajver is a big hint, but some poor innocent Yanks are asking what the big signs with the numbers are.....so what are they?

Rally sprint track is considered as a track and those with numbers are marshalling points with flags. Finnish rally sprints are run with 30 second intervals, so there must be some efficient way to get the attention of the driver had a driver before gone off or otherwise stopped.

[dimviii]

what happened to Rovanpera at ss 3?
http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/20238/Livetulokset.html

[Portimao]

what happened to Rovanpera at ss 3?
http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/20238/Livetulokset.html


Kalle Rovanperä
·

Small problem and we had to stop on stage 3.
No drama and everything is now working. On to the next one!,,,

[Rallyper]

Is it car or stuck in snowbank?

[dimviii]

Is it car or stuck in snowbank?

Kalle Rovanpera
@KalleRovanpera
·
1h
Replying to
@KalleRovanpera
We forgot to remove engine covers from the front so car started to overheat and we had to stop on stage to remove them.

[AnttiL]

Kalle with 139.5 km/h avg speed on SS6

[Rallyper]

Kalle wins Arctic Rally. Outstanding performance!

[AnttiL]

143.9 km/h average speed on SS9

[Ucci]

And F1 star Bottas also finished. Congrats!

[samzon100]

SM-Arctic Lapland Rally 2020
EK 2, EK 5, ja EK 7

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Arctic+Lapland+Rally+2020++01.20/

[faateris]

Arctic Lapland Rally 2020 - photos - http://janisasaris.com/jaunumi

JA

[dimviii]

Νikara with evo 9 in the mix with Lindholm and Asunmaa at today stages.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/61806-sm-vaakuna-ralli-mikkeli-2020/?s=263974

[Ucci]

Νikara with evo 9 in the mix with Lindholm and Asunmaa at today stages.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/61806-sm-vaakuna-ralli-mikkeli-2020/?s=263974

Impressive driving by Nikara

[tommeke_B]

Anyone know why Pietarinen seemed to be off the pace, something with tyres?

[dimviii]

Anyone know why Pietarinen seemed to be off the pace, something with tyres?

at previous rally was also slow Tom.

[Micke_VOC]

Impressive driving by Nikara

He really deserve some good car for Rally Finland 2020. Always so impressing drives from him !

[the sniper]

He really deserve some good car for Rally Finland

How long have people been saying that!

[dimviii]

Anyone know why Pietarinen seemed to be off the pace, something with tyres?

Miikka Anttila
@MiikkaAnttila
·
43m
We finish 5th O/A of @SMVaakunaRalli
& it’s not really where we wanted to be. But sometimes it’s like that & we have to accept it. We are confused about the result. We need to try to find out why we were not competitive by checking the data from the stages and the car carefully.

[samzon100]

SM-Vaakuna Ralli Mikkeli 07-08.02.2020
EK 2 ja EK 6
[/url]1923

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Vaakuna+Ralli+Mikkeli+02.20/

[samzon100]

Pictures SM-O.K. Auto Ralli Kouvola 04-05.2020
SS 2 and SS 6

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-O.K.+Auto+Ralli+Kouvola+09.20/

[dimviii]

what happened to Lindholm ?
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/61812-pohjanmaa-sm-ralli-2020/?s=299568

[AnttiL]

what happened to Lindholm ?
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/61812-pohjanmaa-sm-ralli-2020/?s=299568

Reportedly first drove bonnet open and then went off

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei18bNdWAAEex7g?format=jpg&name=900x900

[dimviii]

Reportedly first drove bonnet open and then went off

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei7qJLRX0AIUMA8?format=jpg&name=large

[Hartusvuori]

Reportedly first drove bonnet open and then went off

He also said the bonnet really didn't cause the accident. It was the second run of the stage and there was a ground rock in the rut that were not there on the first run. Robert Virves met the same rock and also went off.

[samzon100]

Pictures SM-Pohjanmaa Ralli 25-26.09.2020
EK 1, EK 4, EK 7 ja EK 9

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Pohjanmaa+Ralli+09.20/

[Jarek Z]

Good to see Mini R4 still competing!
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Pohjanmaa+Ralli+09.20/IMG_9967.JPG

[Jarek Z]

Look! There's a Lada! ;)
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Pohjanmaa+Ralli+09.20/IMG_9588.JPG

[pantealex]

Look! There's a Lada! ;)
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Pohjanmaa+Ralli+09.20/IMG_9588.JPG

yes, kit-car with Opel 2.0 16V engine

[Sulland]

Impressive from Latvala in an old Celica ST165, against a bunch of modern cars!

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/68250-askolan-granit-ralli-2020/?s=302421

[HarriK]

FRC 2021 First rally entry will close today. A lot of r5 cars aand bottas with wrc and propably one top wrc to come...

[pantealex]

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=12769&state=1
Entries with numbers (notice that 2-5 are still FREE for possible late WRC entries)

Edit.
eWRC list is much easier to sort by classes and you can easily look info about drivers
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/67302-arctic-lapland-rally-2021/

[dupanton]

Is the lack of foreign crews a sign that the WRC Finland winter rally will not happen?

[br21]

It's more likely the issue of travel restrictions, etc. And if WRC Arctic will happen it will share quite much of the stages with FRC event, so anyway works drivers won't be allowed to participate.
If WRC Arctic will be confirmed then we can expect works teams coming, just not with top drivers (Toyota with Nikara for example, Hyundai I don't know with who)...

[dimviii]

lets see what Oliver can do against Veiby at his first outing with hyundai r5,at a surface where Veiby is good

http://planetemarcus.com/o-solberg-demarre-sa-saison-a-larctic-lapland-rally/

[pantealex]

lets see what Oliver can do against Veiby at his first outing with hyundai r5,at a surface where Veiby is good

http://planetemarcus.com/o-solberg-demarre-sa-saison-a-larctic-lapland-rally/

1st ever rally in Finland for Oliver.

I´m positively surprised if OC or Oliver managed to set TOP3 Rally2 stage times

[dimviii]

1st ever rally in Finland for Oliver.

I´m positively surprised if OC or Oliver managed to set TOP3 Rally2 stage times
i will not,specially for Oliver looking at entries
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/67302-arctic-lapland-rally-2021/

[Rallyper]

I assume Oliver starts in the first group of cars, but why LK6? Isn´t his car built according to Rally2 (SM1) class?

[AnttiL]

I assume Oliver starts in the first group of cars, but why LK6? Isn´t his car built according to Rally2 (SM1) class?

Because of late entry?

[Rallyper]

Because of late entry?

I thought organizer opened for late entries?

[pantealex]

I thought organizer opened for late entries?

Yes but only for Class 6

Let´s wait if they move him to SM1

Number wise:
Hänninen has #2
Oliver #3

[AMSS]

i will not,specially for Oliver looking at entries
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/67302-arctic-lapland-rally-2021/

Also it will depend if Oliver does it as a pure test for a possible Lapland WRC rally and use the 7mm stud protrusion, or if he will use 8mm as national entries. It`s a big performance difference in right circumstances.

[Tom206wrc]

An interesting entrylist in Arctic Lapland Rally ;)

Pitty there are NO 208 Rally 4(unlike the Ford who are numerous) :(

[pantealex]

An interesting entrylist in Arctic Lapland Rally ;)

Pitty there are NO 208 Rally 4(unlike the Ford who are numerous) :(

+1

Biggest reason is that our JWRC prize competition was only for Fiesta drivers, other big reason is that there are no PSA rally dealers here, using Fiesta is much easier.
I hope some drivers will choose 208/Corsa Rally4 later.

[dimviii]

Lindholm brings Indian MRF rally tyres to the Finnish Rally Championship

http://emillindholm.fi/index.php?id=102&p&fbclid=IwAR0SdaM0gveRGskig8FalxEswub8Kiv2fRSQLaA-7c6vZxVWfcMELhkuIss

[dimviii]

Κaur

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ern5j1uW8AIKIxd?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[dimviii]

Gronholm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErwtA8XXcAEj9LO?format=jpg&name=large

[Sulland]

Is some or all stages being sent live?
Do anyone have links?

Edit; Found it; https://arcticrally.fi/fi/etusivu/

[dimviii]

Jarno Saari
@SaariJarno
·
42m
#ArcticRally has started
❄
❄
.
The fastest driver currently in Rovaniemi @HuttunenRacing
has now service crew overalls, hopefully in next month he will have here proper driving wears.
#FlyingFinn #Hanaa

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erw-J6zXUAENCFj?format=jpg&name=large

[Rallyper]

Is some or all stages being sent live?
Do anyone have links?

Edit; Found it; https://arcticrally.fi/fi/etusivu/

Today SS2 and Ss4 are live.

[dimviii]

Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
·
2m
First stage of @Tunturirally
done

7th fastest - not a perfect run, the stages are so fast but I’m just trying to get used to the new car! Off to the second stage now which will run in the dark
https://twitter.com/OliverSolberg01/status/1350073269949526017

[dimviii]

Heikkila

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EryGvxVWMAAQnnr?format=jpg&name=small

[EstWRC]

Kaur was stuck?

[Lead]

Any info what happaned to Kaur at first in SS2 and then SS4? Technical problems or off?

[pantealex]

Any info what happaned to Kaur at first in SS2 and then SS4? Technical problems or off?

SS2 next 3-4 cars after Heikkilä were jammed

[dupanton]

What tyres are Veiby and Solberg on? Judging by the stage times, I would think they use the WRC spec snow tyres, not the "national" spec tyres that Aasunmaa and others are using. How about the MRF, which what tyres are that?

[dimviii]

What tyres are Veiby and Solberg on? Judging by the stage times, I would think they use the WRC spec snow tyres, not the "national" spec tyres that Aasunmaa and others are using. How about the MRF, which what tyres are that?
but what is interesting is that the Pirellis being used by Hyundai Motorsport’s Oliver Solberg and his fellow Rally2 runners have never had longer studs.

How long? The Italians are being a little bit coy about that, but somebody’s measured one on behalf of DirtFish and nine millimeters is the answer.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/pirellis-longest-studded-rally-tire-debuting-this-weekend/

[dimviii]

Asunmaa onboard ss 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82oMV5amxGQ

[dimviii]

While yesterday Oliver was clearly slower from Fin crews,today was faster at the long 42km stage
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/67302-arctic-lapland-rally-2021/?s=309775

[Sulland]

I guess both Oliver and the Solberg team is starting to understand the i20, and tweaks it in the right direction.
For Veiby it seemed to go in the opposit direction, fast stage, and the got better in slow sections, but maybe worse in fast sections.
not sure if these two teams Kristoffersen and Solberg share all data, but I guess they are, since both now are Adamo guys!

Even if it is boring for us, it is a perfect rally to get to know a car. You are back to the depot btw almost every stage, and can do adjustments, and get data on the result at once.

[AMSS]

What tyres are Veiby and Solberg on? Judging by the stage times, I would think they use the WRC spec snow tyres, not the "national" spec tyres that Aasunmaa and others are using. How about the MRF, which what tyres are that?

At least yesterday both on 8mm, same for Emil and Niclas Grönholm 8mm

[pantealex]

What tyres are Veiby and Solberg on? Judging by the stage times, I would think they use the WRC spec snow tyres, not the "national" spec tyres that Aasunmaa and others are using. How about the MRF, which what tyres are that?

Veiby is SM1 so he must use "national spec", Solberg can use what he wants.

Maximum number of tyres is 14
Most Finns used 6 yesterday and have 8 new for today.

[Sulland]

Splits: http://gpspekka.kapsi.fi/rally/?id=1R21_2

[Rallyper]

Veiby is SM1 so he must use "national spec", Solberg can use what he wants.

Maximum number of tyres is 14
Most Finns used 6 yesterday and have 8 new for today.

If I read right then Solberg used WRC Pirellis and those are 2mm shorter?

[dimviii]

If I read right then Solberg used WRC Pirellis and those are 2mm shorter?

what i would like to inform us Pantealex, is if Solberg used yesterday same tyres as today.
I know its difficult,but todays performance at these 2 stages is impressive.

Oliver small clip
https://twitter.com/OliverSolberg01/status/1350419208073572353

[Rallyper]

what i would like to inform us Pantealex, is if Solberg used yesterday same tyres as today.
I know its difficult,but todays performance at these 2 stages is impressive.

Oliver small clip
https://twitter.com/OliverSolberg01/status/1350419208073572353

Yes. Me too curious.

If he yesterday had 2mm shorter (as I understand after reading Dirtfish...) seems maybe today he is on same tyres as SM1 class. Anyone?

[Rallyper]

Seems Oliver 2nd o/a after SS9. Teemu Asunmaa never started Ss9... what happened, anyone?

Edit: Asunmaa only lost GPS tracker at service. He still is in 2nd position. Oliver 3rd. +15,7 from 2nd...

[dimviii]

Seems Oliver 2nd o/a after SS9. Teemu Asunmaa never started Ss9... what happened, anyone?

Edit: Asunmaa only lost GPS tracker at service. He still is in 2nd position. Oliver 3rd. +15,7 from 2nd...

today at 100km stages Oliver got back almost 40 sec from Asunmaa.
Seems that at next stage 32 km long he will be very near of him,only some couple of seconds.


Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
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49s
Fastest R5 again on SS9, despite losing time with an intercom issue! Today has gone really well so far - hope we can finish on a high with the final SS10
Fisted hand
@Tunturirally

[EstWRC]

Man Solberg again continues to amaze me.

This kid has a huge future.

[Sulland]

Yes. Me too curious.

If he yesterday had 2mm shorter (as I understand after reading Dirtfish...) seems maybe today he is on same tyres as SM1 class. Anyone?


Not sure what spikelength/ overhang he is using, but normally they use the longer spikes 8-9mm when there is snow on top of ice. With just ice they can use 6-7,5 mm.
So the longer ones are needed to get through the snow and down into the ice.

[Rallyper]

Not sure what spikelength he is using, but normally they use the longer spikes 8-9mm when there is snow on top of ice. With just ice they can use 6-7,5 mm.
So the longer ones are needed to get through the snow and down into the ice.

In that case Pirellis SM1 tyres with 8mm "stand out"...

[Sulland]

Will Oliver manage to take 2nd place and best Rally2 car on the last stage?
yes/no

[Rallyper]

yes...

[Rallyper]

It´s about tenths of a second, but I think he made it.

Edit: 0,9 secs in favour of Asunmaa. However a slower time showed up very shortly... something like 15:11,4 on GPS splits. However still win for Asunmaa...

[Co-driven]

Yes. Me too curious.

If he yesterday had 2mm shorter (as I understand after reading Dirtfish...) seems maybe today he is on same tyres as SM1 class. Anyone?

I saw one photo from Solberg and the Tyre had the "WJ" mark on it, which I understand is the new model with longer studs.

I am trying to find the photo again...

[Sulland]

He he, 0,9 sec behind Asunmaa.
still a good test, getting to know the car setup.

will be good experience to have inhouse when starting in Monte.

[Rallyper]

However Oliver took back some 38+ secs today, given he must have done some major change. Tyres I guess...
So today was showing the speed in between them if going on same tyres...

[dimviii]

Αmazing pace from Oliver! We know that Asunmaa,Lindholm,Salo are very fast at their home rallies,and today he was clearly destroying them.

[dimviii]

I am trying to find the photo again...

this photo?
https://worldrally.se/oliver-solbergs-forsta-strackseger/

[Co-driven]

this photo?
https://worldrally.se/oliver-solbergs-forsta-strackseger/

No, it's on this tweet: https://twitter.com/oliversolberg01/status/1350336987014709250?s=21

[dimviii]

No, it's on this tweet: https://twitter.com/oliversolberg01/status/1350336987014709250?s=21

this is the old one,introduced at 2018 and has 7mm nails(some variants are with 8mm nails)

[drive]

after seeing many pictures from this rally - seems like everyone were on 15 inch wide tyre. but they not all the same, michelin had two types: wrc and for r5, pireli with new tyre - need to wait for real inside info who was using what...

[lnvs]

this is the old one,introduced at 2018 and has 7mm nails(some variants are with 8mm nails)There is clearly marking WJ1, which is the new Pirelli tyre for national use.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/pirellis-longest-studded-rally-tire-debuting-this-weekend/

[dimviii]

There is clearly marking WJ1, which is the new Pirelli tyre for national use.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/pirellis-longest-studded-rally-tire-debuting-this-weekend/

https://shop.rtemotorsport.net/PIRELLI-185/65-15-WJ-7mm-TALVIRALLIRENGAS

[Rallyper]

https://shop.rtemotorsport.net/PIRELLI-185/65-15-WJ-7mm-TALVIRALLIRENGAS

Two different tyres:

Showing the WJ 185/65 R 15".

New 2021 is Pirelli Sottozero Ice WJ1 205/65 R 15

But main question is if Oliver changed type from Friday to Saturday.

[pantealex]

after seeing many pictures from this rally - seems like everyone were on 15 inch wide tyre. but they not all the same, michelin had two types: wrc and for r5, pireli with new tyre - need to wait for real inside info who was using what...

Here is list of allowed winter tyres in Finnish Championship (Class6 WRC + Oliver did not drive with these rules)
https://www.autourheilu.fi/uutiset/nastarenkaat-rallin-ja-rallisprintin-arvokilpailuissa-2021/

[Rallyper]

So what did he use? I guess WJ1 on Saturday and WRC tyre on Friday...

[AMSS]

So what did he use? I guess WJ1 on Saturday and WRC tyre on Friday...

according to Teemu Asunmaa in another forum Oliver had same new WJ all event, but mind that 2 stages after Saturdays first service were the really snowy ones

[dimviii]

but mind that 2 stages after Saturdays first service were the really snowy ones

explain it please AMSS.

[AMSS]

explain it please AMSS.

Friday was clean roads with little or no loose snow, Saturday first stage also clean roads, the rest much more loose snow. WJ with 9mm protrusion was a clear advantage there, easiest is to compare against Hänninen who was on same 7mm WRC tires all even and you can see that all others were closer especially on SS8 with alot of loose snow, than again long 9mm protrusion can actually be a disadvantage on clean ice roads as the stud starts to sway a lot faster when the rubber warms up.
But I wasn`t there so can`t verify what tires who was on at what point, so this is pure specualtion

[Rallyper]

according to Teemu Asunmaa in another forum Oliver had same new WJ all event, but mind that 2 stages after Saturdays first service were the really snowy ones

If so Oliver would´ve lost more time Saturday after 1st service, wouldn´t he? Snowy stage starting early. Same conditions as Teemu of course, but to the rest of the field of fast drivers in RC2 cars.

However I could also reccon Oliver and his team is as smart as we do think. He did test his feeling on Friday. Very important to get the right set up and gain experience. He is a fast learner and a smart team, so Saturday they could step up and go as fast as they could, better knowing car and set ups. And it finally showed where Olivers status is. Winning Saturday by some 35-40 secs.

[pantealex]

Asunmaa said that he lost totally around 30s on Saturdays 2 stages because Veiby had problems...

Of course this isn´t fully true and maybe Oliver also had some "dust" problems.

Because it was Oliver´s 1st rally with Hyundai, I believe that he was not attacking 100%, especially on Friday.

[samzon100]

Pictures Arctic Lapland Rally 14-16.01.2021
SS 2 ja SS 8

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/SM-Arctic+Lapland+Rally+01.21/

[AMSS]

If so Oliver would´ve lost more time Saturday after 1st service, wouldn´t he? Snowy stage starting early. Same conditions as Teemu of course, but to the rest of the field of fast drivers in RC2 cars.

However I could also reccon Oliver and his team is as smart as we do think. He did test his feeling on Friday. Very important to get the right set up and gain experience. He is a fast learner and a smart team, so Saturday they could step up and go as fast as they could, better knowing car and set ups. And it finally showed where Olivers status is. Winning Saturday by some 35-40 secs.

What I meant is Oliver took full advantage of the 9mm studs in the snowy conditions, it looks as like the new WJ tire suits full snow alot better than clean roads as seen from the results the drivers who got the new tire suddenly were alot faster on the last 2-3 stages.
However it does not explain the time loss for Friday.
And just to be clear I am in no way saying Oliver had a bad rally, especially Saturday he showed the difference between a full time rally driver and a national rally driver..

[Sulland]

Any result link to the Historic rally Jari Maiti Latvala and his father is driving today?

[AMSS]

Any result link to the Historic rally Jari Maiti Latvala and his father is driving today?

http://ajaksi.online/ralliajaksi/index.php

[Rallyper]

So F-Cup in Hankasalmi on Saturday. Any links?

[pantealex]

So F-Cup in Hankasalmi on Saturday. Any links?

http://ajaksi.online/ralliajaksi/

https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/70557-revontuli-ralli-2021/

[TWRC]

http://ajaksi.online/ralliajaksi/

https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/70557-revontuli-ralli-2021/

Also, Toni is broadcasting live on youtube.
SS1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpa5uLm6_rk
SS5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOzFMITUvFU

[pantealex]

158 entries for next FC event, 15x Rally2/R5 + 1x Rally3 !

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=12727

Rally is held March 5-6th, one week after WRC Arctic.

[Jarek Z]

Wow! Over 150 entries in such a small country! And a proper snow rally! And a world premiere of Ford Fiesta Rally3!
It's going to be a great rally day in Finland on Saturday. It's been a while since I saw a proper snow rally for the last time!
Are there any live results going to be available?
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/2GzoBJ10/s6/ken-torn-timo-taniel-ford-fies.jpg

[Sulland]

The old GrN cars in national class SM2, what are the tech reg for them?

Are most of them upgraded to a sort of Group A tuning?

Is the start at 1000 or 1100 local today?

[PLuto]

Who wants to follow, LIVE from stages of O.K. Ralli - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyrWYmmmd2o

[elmerim]

The old GrN cars in national class SM2, what are the tech reg for them?

Are most of them upgraded to a sort of Group A tuning?

Is the start at 1000 or 1100 local today?

In SM2 class the cars are still basically gr.n, just some minor things allowed over gr.n rules. Upgraded ones drive in SM1 class with R5's (for example Jarkko Nikara last year with his Evo).

[Daniel Popov]

What happened with Salo, Asunmaa and Lindholm on SS5? They all dropped a minute on that stage.

[PLuto]

What happened with Salo, Asunmaa and Lindholm on SS5? They all dropped a minute on that stage.

More things together. For example Lindholm had issues with car. But there was also heavy snowfall, so first drivers on the road were cleaning...

[AnttiL]

Asunmaa and Salo went slightly off and the fresh snow was really bad

[br21]

Asunmaa didn't went off, he drove as first car on the road in 15cms of fresh snow on last two stages.

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/PanteAlex/status/1368462851032121345

According to pantealex Asunmaa and Salo went slightly off in the same place.

[pantealex]

Asunmaa didn't went off, he drove as first car on the road in 15cms of fresh snow on last two stages.

He also went thru snowbank but fresh snow was biggest reason for 1min lose.

[Neige]

Mine sum-up about the second round in Finland

https://rally-week.com/sm-o-k-auto-ralli/

[pantealex]

Next RalliSM has some interesting guest entries:

Egon Kaur Polo R5
Eerik Pietarinen with Miikka Anttila Polo R5

Esapekka Lappi Yaris N5 (same class than N Mitsu/Subaru)

Juuso Metsälä Fiesta Rally3 (he has done some Top3 stage times with Fabia R5 so should give some clues about Rally3 speed against Mitsu N)


https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=12721

[Damian Baldi]

Lappi testing the N5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huUwHiwvUeU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2otOAr2XVK0


It looks like he was running with three different sets of rims (black, orange and white). Different tyres maybe?

[pantealex]

Last 2021 Championship Rally this weekend, top seeded:
1.Gryazin Polo
2.Egon Kaur Polo
3.Pepe Lopez Fabia
4.Mikko Heikkilä Fabia
5.Emil Lindholm Fabia
6.Teemu Asunmaa Fabia

all entries:
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=12735

2022 there will be 5 Championship classes
-Rally2/R5
-N, Rally2+Kit, (Spanish) N5, Proto-N
-Rally3
-Rally4/5, R2/1
-V1600 (standard max 1.6, no turbo)

[samzon100]

Pictures SM-Kokkolan UA 60-v Ralli 25-26.09.2021
SS1, SS4, SS7 and SS10

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/+SM-Kokkolan+UA+60-v+ralli+09.21/

[Jarek Z]

Final results:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/73072-kokkolan-ua-60-v-ralli-sm-2021/