Finnish rallying championship news [Archive] - Page 4

janvanvurpa

16th January 2015, 04:10

What makes the F-Cup the best rally championship in the world? How many different championships you have been watching around the world? I'm just curious.

Well it is a far way away, and with all the snow and wolves and hungry angry moose, a scary place and the women,, now that I know about but the F-cup I just watch, and i spread the word. You could call me John the Baptists bringing the word of F-cup to the blind in the wilderness.

But a wery vise-guy said it maybe better:

The idea is to cut the costs. Turbo and 4wd is ideal for the performance, but it’s like a Pandora’s box also. It will always be expensive, if we are thinking about the amount of rallies and km which are driven in the world rally championship. It’s not a rocket science to build fast 4wd turbo car and drive rallycross, hillclimb or small rallies for a hobby.

Lot of average drivers have been champions at the national level only because they have had enough money to buy good 4wd turbo car. In the 2wd field it’s not so easy, no matter how much money you have, cause there are plenty of very skilful drivers.

That's the key I think...and not just because I have 2wd rally car which I do, but also I have one old Group N & 1/2 4x4 car, but it is getting un-4x4-ised...

janvanvurpa

16th January 2015, 04:12

The most illegal recce championship in the world, maybe? I prefer events with real pace notes, more fair for everyone.

Fine, enter events with pace notes...

Some people need crutches.

Tom206wrc

17th January 2015, 13:28

There is already few entries in Arctic Lapland Rally.

Here are entries so far: https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=3741&edit=0
Click "Osallistujat".

Juha Salo will use R5 car next season and what I have understood it will be a Peugeot.

Why no Juha Salo on the entrylist yet :confused:

RICARDO75

17th January 2015, 13:46

Why no Juha Salo on the entrylist yet :confused:

#22 with Evo IX.
Peugeot should be on next round

Rallyper

17th January 2015, 13:57

Test Salo: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jUhwMa2-9ZA

Rallyper

17th January 2015, 17:24

How about a report from first round of F-cup in Heinola today?

Tom206wrc

17th January 2015, 17:46

#22 with Evo IX.
Peugeot should be on next round

Thanks ;)

giù tutto!

21st January 2015, 09:32

Well it is a far way away, and with all the snow and wolves and hungry angry moose, a scary place and the women,, now that I know about but the F-cup I just watch, and i spread the word. You could call me John the Baptists bringing the word of F-cup to the blind in the wilderness.

But a wery vise-guy said it maybe better:

That's the key I think...and not just because I have 2wd rally car which I do, but also I have one old Group N & 1/2 4x4 car, but it is getting un-4x4-ised...

As you noticed I'm not against group F or 2wd cars. I just don't get it, how on earth F-cup is the best championship in the world. Many countries have national homologated 2wd cars which are VERY spectacular and the level of skills is high. If the F-cup would be driven with normal pace note regulations, then it could be awesome. When there is corners like they have had where 20 to 40 cars went off is it cost-effective or cheap for a normal working class driver? With the pace notes you can decide by yourself, which corner you want to crash your car, it's not decision by the marking mistake of marshals or the spectators which have prepared the corners also to see more crashes.

Rallyper

22nd January 2015, 01:13

OT. (Above)

How about our finnish friends give us some "food" from Rovaniemi and Arctic Rally in the very big flow from RMC? What´s happening up there in the northern part of Finland??

OldF

22nd January 2015, 18:50

If you follow Teemu on Twitter I think you will be well updated.
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC

This year’s rally is the 50th Artic rally.

Web site
http://www.arcticrally.fi/index.php/frontpage

Itinerary
http://www.arcticrally.fi/images/pdf/Aikataulu_2015.pdf

Facebook
https://fi-fi.facebook.com/pages/Arctic-Lapland-Rally/238937359520542

Arctic Lapland rally web channel
http://arctic.glmediapro.tv/

http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/
http://tenab.net/kale2015.htm
http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/m/ (mobile)

Rallyper

23rd January 2015, 02:05

Thanks!
last four links is good. Of course one follows Teemu. And Twitter. No problem. But still poor flow from up there, I think. More vids should do fine! (I know only SD has run and rally starts today (?))

Fly

23rd January 2015, 10:20

No Vuorisalo on the list?
DMAck trophy in 2015 maybe?

pantealex

23rd January 2015, 15:15

No Vuorisalo on the list?
DMAck trophy in 2015 maybe?

Opel Adam cup, Germany,
Laura Suvanto is doing same.

Tom206wrc

24th January 2015, 09:03

What happened to Kruuda and Salo in Arctic Lapland on SS7 this morning saturday :confused:
Why no more times coming on this SS7 :confused:

Tom206wrc

24th January 2015, 10:44

OK, apparently no problem for Kruuda and Salo who are 1-2 after SS9 Arctic Rally ;)
http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/

tolis

24th January 2015, 14:58

Engine problem for Kruuda. Retirement.

Rallyper

24th January 2015, 17:43

Salo wins! Good!

dimviii

24th January 2015, 19:57

Nikara what car drives?

Fly

24th January 2015, 20:10

Nikara what car drives?

Evo9

dimviii

24th January 2015, 20:51

so good pace to be so close with r5 cars.

Tom206wrc

24th January 2015, 20:56

Engine problem for Kruuda. Retirement.

Shame :(
But it was good preparation to Sweden WRC2 next month though... ;)

Rallyper

24th January 2015, 22:44

so good pace to be so close with r5 cars.

Dimitri, what you mean? R5 close to Evo 9(10)? Or Salo close to Kruuda? I think anyway Salo did a good job!

dimviii

25th January 2015, 00:12

wasnt Salo and Kruuda with r5 cars?

tolis

25th January 2015, 00:25

Salo-Evo 9!

Rallyper

25th January 2015, 00:51

wasnt Salo and Kruuda with r5 cars?

OK, no Salo as Tolis said. His R5 ready for next round.

dimviii

25th January 2015, 01:26

ok! i thought that Salo and Kruuda were with r5 cars.

Co-FIN

26th January 2015, 19:29

dimviii

26th January 2015, 20:43

congrats mate!

pantealex

26th January 2015, 22:19

Shame :(
But it was good preparation to Sweden WRC2 next month though... ;)

Kruuda is not driving in WRC2 Sweden, just for test ,startnumber #73 for him

Juha_Koo

27th January 2015, 21:05

Some in-car footage from Teemu Asunmaa / Subaru R4 from our arctic adventure. I was co-driving him and rally started with broken drive shaft in ss1, we got it fixed after ss2 service. After the problems all went quite smoothly, but we lost approx. 1:30 min in first 2 stages with 2wd car. Actually Teemu was fastest car to finish second day. After all we finished 4th o/a and second in SM2-class 30s behind of Nikko.

SS12 Ristilampi 50,00km. Fastest o/a time.
http://youtu.be/L9mPyhgEpBM

Great job, especially on SS12! :) I was in the stop control area, first people didn't believe the time written on the board but I saw you both having a really wide smile in the cabin so I calculated 1+1 :D

Also I like the notes, really simple and effective and read in nice rhytm!

Tinke1979

27th January 2015, 21:39

Here is my little video from Arctic Lapland Rally 2015 :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGLq3ZdJfB8

I try to capture the "Arctic Magic" on this video.. The interview-part maybe should be little shorter, but those volunteer workers are really important thing for the rally! Thumbs up for Rovaniemen Urheiluautoilijat!

satukata

28th January 2015, 21:42

Some in-car footage from Teemu Asunmaa / Subaru R4 from our arctic adventure. I was co-driving him and rally started with broken drive shaft in ss1, we got it fixed after ss2 service. After the problems all went quite smoothly, but we lost approx. 1:30 min in first 2 stages with 2wd car. Actually Teemu was fastest car to finish second day. After all we finished 4th o/a and second in SM2-class 30s behind of Nikko.

SS12 Ristilampi 50,00km. Fastest o/a time.
http://youtu.be/L9mPyhgEpBM

SS8 Hanhikoski 38,85km. Fourth quickest o/a time.
http://youtu.be/G0NHLAHuVoM

SS7 Sarriojärvi 36,19km. Second quickest o/a time.
http://youtu.be/fTl3nU-dGIo

Great driving and great time SS 12 ! Good luck for next Rally!

Jeppe

28th January 2015, 22:24

And here you can find some Jaro Kinnunen / Peugeot 208 R2 in-car material to compare with. Jaro was the fastest of all 2wd drivers in all of these three stages and in the end of the rally he was winner of the SM3 (R2 cars) class.

SS1 Aittajärvi 24,18 km:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgv7wyH2pC4

SS3 Siikakämä 38,00 km:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuxvgA8BcPI

SS7 Sarriojärvi 36,19 km:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG10I8UsC9g

Here is the highlights of the Day 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lAoUEZMTD4

Enjoy the pace!

tolis

29th January 2015, 23:30

What does Yotauko mean? I saw it in retirement's list in Arctic.

Rallyper

29th January 2015, 23:37

What does Yotauko mean? I saw it in retirement's list in Arctic.

I´m really not finnish language specialist, but wordly it means night and pause. Better ask Teemu. My dictionary doesn´t cover the compund word...

Rallyper

29th January 2015, 23:58

Great driving and great time SS 12 ! Good luck for next Rally!

Very nice get along on SS12. Just drove with you. So fantastic. What fast stage!

donlorean

30th January 2015, 11:50

What does Yotauko mean? I saw it in retirement's list in Arctic.

Rallyper was correct about this. Literally Yö=night and tauko=break/pause so it means overnight park ferme in rally language...

br21

2nd February 2015, 20:27

Guys, where I can find some info about second round of Finnish champs - in Mikkeli?

Jeppe

2nd February 2015, 20:52

Guys, where I can find some info about second round of Finnish champs - in Mikkeli?

For the moment from the organizers website http://www.vaakunaralli.fi/inenglish

Our Finnish Rally Championship website (in english) is still ´sleeping´ http://www.rallism.fi/en/

Or just send me a PM - I´ll tell you what you need..

br21

2nd February 2015, 22:34

For the moment from the organizers website http://www.vaakunaralli.fi/inenglish

Our Finnish Rally Championship website (in english) is still ´sleeping´ http://www.rallism.fi/en/

Or just send me a PM - I´ll tell you what you need..

OK, thanx! As for now it's more or less what I need.

What is the weather now around Mikkeli?

Susiraja

3rd February 2015, 13:27

OK, thanx! As for now it's more or less what I need.

What is the weather now around Mikkeli?

Around from 0 to -7 celcius. Normally it has been from -10 to -15 in Mikkeli during the rally, but this winter has been very mild so it might be about the same temperature as now.

br21

3rd February 2015, 15:36

aha, and some snow you've got there?

pantealex

3rd February 2015, 16:04

aha, and some snow you've got there?

maybe 30cm now

Juha_Koo

3rd February 2015, 19:38

Some idea of the conditions: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8xV6NQIYAA2dUF.jpg:large (Organizer car stuck on stage, whoops... :D )

Tom206wrc

4th February 2015, 11:51

Let's hope this time Juha Salo will have his 208 T16 :mark:

pantealex

4th February 2015, 14:45

Let's hope this time Juha Salo will have his 208 T16 :mark:

He has entered with it.

br21

6th February 2015, 12:30

where can I find entry list?

OldF

6th February 2015, 18:10

You can find it here: https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=3732&

Choose “osallistujat”.

Kaikki ilmoittautuneet = all registered
Hyväksytyt = approved
Karsitut = pruned
Peruttaneet = cancelled

2015 calendar: https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionCalendar.aspx

br21

6th February 2015, 21:25

thanx a lot, looking forward for that event!

donlorean

9th February 2015, 09:47

Mikko Hirvonen with his BDA in Mikkeli's entrylist...

br21

10th February 2015, 09:04

where can I find Finnish rally champs regulations in English?

Jeppe

10th February 2015, 12:00

where can I find Finnish rally champs regulations in English?

From the rallism.fi website but only the 2014 edition available. Basicly it´s the same this year.

www.rallism.fi/en/info/regulationsandentry/

br21

15th February 2015, 21:38

what is the weather now in Mikkeli?

Jeppe

15th February 2015, 22:18

what is the weather now in Mikkeli?

Lovely ;) http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/weather/mikkeli

satukata

19th February 2015, 22:56

Finland rally championship

Juha Salo and new 208 T16 first time

SS1 LIVE lint. Start time 20.2.2015 17.00 CET https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxAimEdIZrM

pantealex

20th February 2015, 15:10

SS1 cancelled

Tom206wrc

20th February 2015, 18:22

Why :confused:

bluuford

20th February 2015, 19:23

Why :confused:
no snow and ice on the road and too warm: https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/568726505548849152/photo/1

Fly

20th February 2015, 21:15

Teemu Suninen making his debut with the Skoda Fabia S2000.

Fly

20th February 2015, 22:17

Do you have info about Joonas Soilu? One to watch? Thank you.

Tom206wrc

20th February 2015, 22:57

no snow and ice on the road and too warm: https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/568726505548849152/photo/1

Thanks for the info ;)

Tom206wrc

21st February 2015, 10:41

I don't understand the starting order :confused: I hate when "small" cars start ahead of "big" cars...it can sometimes lead to problem when the second ones catch the first ones in stage :mark:

Wim_Impreza

21st February 2015, 11:25

You can be very angry than for all rallies in the Belgian Rally Championship this year. The 5 best Junior drivers with R2 cars will be starting ahead of all WRC cars in all rallies for the BRC... which is of course very stupid. :(

I am looking forward what Teemu Suminen and Juha Salo can do with their new cars.

satukata

21st February 2015, 12:10

http://www.lansi-savo.fi/vaakunaralli LIVE SS4 Salo leading and suninen 2nd after ss3

RICARDO75

21st February 2015, 18:06

Did last stage was cancelled like the first one?

Juha_Koo

21st February 2015, 18:16

Did last stage was cancelled like the first one?

Yes. Too bad conditions due to mild temperatures.

Salo takes victory with new 208 R5! Vihavainen second and Suninen third. Asunmaa wins SM2 category for the first time.

Fly

21st February 2015, 20:44

Jari Huttunen impressed me!

Juha_Koo

21st February 2015, 21:02

Check out my video from Vaakuna Rally! --> www.facebook.com/video.php?v=790830677633247

Jari Huttunen impressed me!
Indeed, he was really fast! Lets see what he can do in the future.

Rigel

21st February 2015, 21:16

Jari have been crazy fast in karting too and with his Opel Astra previously. He is definitely one to watch, actually he have been that always. Very nice person also.

tolis

22nd February 2015, 01:44

Hartusvuori

22nd February 2015, 10:30

I need help for Vaakuna Ralli. Did these crews start the rally or not?

No: 37, 55, 58, 67, 91, 98, 129, 145, 146 and if yes, what's the retirement reason? Kiitos! :)

http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/10R15/retirements.htm

These crews did not start the event: 55 (no reason), 58 (missed civil scrutineering), 67 (broken gearbox), 129 (work issue). PER = cancelled entry.

HUOLTO = retired in service.

tolis

22nd February 2015, 12:49

Thank you! And what does TAUKO menas?

Hartusvuori

22nd February 2015, 14:45

Thank you! And what does TAUKO menas?

Tauko means a break, in this context I'd say it means the overnight break.

Best reason for retirement reads at Hirvonen's line: "I pity the car". ;-)

RICARDO75

22nd February 2015, 15:33

Juha Salo onboard - SS3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol9r1uitbpI&feature=youtu.be

COD

5th March 2015, 21:38

Next round this coming weekend. Here entrylist

http://www.tenab.net/v2015/150306l.htm

COD

7th March 2015, 16:11

Results. A bit surprising:

http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/13R15/.a/5/

Fly

7th March 2015, 19:22

Results. A bit surprising:

http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/13R15/.a/5/

Weird...

Rallyper

8th March 2015, 07:28

Was Salo beaten man to man or did he have some sort of problem?

Jeppe

8th March 2015, 21:31

Salo was beaten man to man - no problems this time. Maybe a bit of over trying from Juha...

Teemu Suninen, definitely young gun to watch. Only 2nd 4WD rally for him and already a class victory in front of many experienced drivers. Congrats to Teemu and Mikko!

Co-driven

9th March 2015, 01:47

On previous round, on the onboard camera of Salo I had the impression that he wasn't 100% confortable on the Peugeot. He wasn't as smooth as he looked to be with the Evo.

At least that's what I thought...

Rallyper

9th March 2015, 10:29

Must be some learning time for him of course. Heard something about lower gears as well...

Hartusvuori

9th March 2015, 12:25

I think it was just the case of Salo not being as fast as the other guys. He hasn't really shone in Pohjanmaa-ralli (or whatever has the name of the event been in the area) in the past either. 2011 he had major unluck as his car burnt completely. 2012 he couldn't match the speed set by Lappi and Nikara, 2013 he couldn't match the speed set by Nikko and Nikara. Last summer, 2014, he was saving his EvoX which he had sold just before the event and he was way off pace. Between 2011-2015 Juha Salo has not won a single stage in this event. Also, regarding Pohjanmaa-ralli, back in 2013 it was held in Laihia, a local guy Nikko won, 2014 it was held in Lapua and Ylistaro region, a local guy Ketomäki was the fastest and this weekend it was mostly driven in Alavus-Töysä and again, a local guy Asunmaa won it.

What I'm really happy about is that Salo has brought a modern car to this series. It brings attention. I'm equally happy that Teemu Asunmaa has found significantly more speed compared to last year which is very good. Kristian Kiviniemi is also improving, perhaps a season or two behind Asunmaa now. Teemu Suninen is a different deal, but for his experience, he's doing well.

Next FRC event will be in the Eastern Finland, in Joensuu, mid-June. I will be visiting the event for the first time, so all tips are welcomed. Making the journey via Tampere it'll be around 600 kms one way, almost like going abroad for an event :-)

Tom206wrc

9th March 2015, 13:36

Also surprised by the result of Taisko Lario in R2: 2nd of class in Pohjanmaa whereas he didn't really shine on previous events(or even when he ran the Peugeot cup in France last year) :confused:

Susiraja

10th March 2015, 09:34

Here is incar footage from Jaro Kinnunen on SS1 at Pohjanmaa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRqv-S09aT4&feature=youtu.be

Co-FIN

10th March 2015, 15:36

Jeppe

11th March 2015, 14:31

Incar footage from Teemu Asunmaa:

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Nice driving from Teemu and very smooth rhytm in the pace note reading from Jonne. It must be a winning recipe ;)

Congrats to both of You for 1st OA victory in the Finnish Rally Championship series!!

ps. I believe Teemu might have same advantage since he lives in the area, but everybody need to live somewhere... ;) ;)

Hartusvuori

18th March 2015, 14:14

Take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9AjrnoskKg&app=desktop

It's an onboard video from last Saturday, driver Jari Huttunen. He is very promising young gun driving a C2 R2 at the moment in Finnish championship. For this end-of-the-winter-season he entered with older Opel. See what happens at around 2'50" - a perfect execution of a nonstop crash, roll and continue. No biggie....!

janvanvurpa

18th March 2015, 16:04

Hartusvuori

19th March 2015, 13:46

At 5'20" you'll have an external view how the car performed after the accident. Official reason for retirement was technical, radiator :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y63PLAqWIl8&feature=player_detailpage#t=318

Hartusvuori

9th June 2015, 14:04

Time to exhume this thread.

Finnish rallying championship continues this weekend in Joensuu, Itäralli is the name of the event. During last years Itäralli has been run during the winter, but now it makes return as a gravel event. It's a much-anticipated return as the area is well-known for it's rollercoaster-like roads. A lot of jumps and dangerous bends ahead. Personally I will make my first trip to event. It's over 600 km of travelling one-way, so no wonder it've taken time to get there.

Entry list didn't provide anything surprising. Most of the regulars are in, but there's no interesting one-offs. Fredrik Åhlin had this event in his plans with R5, but he didn't enter explaining the mileage of the engine didn't allow it into their schedule. Anyway, 113 crews entered: http://www.itaralli.fi/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/sm_itaralli_kilpailuun_hyvaksytyt.pdf

Normally there will be results page, GPS tracking and internet rally radio, but those links will update later in the week. There's also some sort of broadcast from the super special stage (horse trotting course) for anyone interested.

There has been a handful of gravel events already since mid-May, some of which have served as test ground for FRC drivers. Kaloppi-ralli included for example Juha Salo, Jussi Vainionpää (debuted in DS3 R5, self-built from the kit, #21) and Kristian Kiviniemi (crashed). Teemu Asunmaa and Joni Nikko had a close head to head battle last weekend in Toivakka-ralli. Toivakka-ralli included also the most famous part of SS Ruuhimäki, the jumps, but this time in reversed version. It was refreshening to see old historic cars having air time over the jumps. One Corolla crew however jumped too far, SOS and ambulance was needed for the hurt driver. There were also few very bad corners in the event, take a look at this video if you enjoy Finnish Runki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JXIdP4f95M

OldF

26th June 2015, 09:49

BILLIOT Jérémie ‏@planetemarcus (https://twitter.com/planetemarcus)11h11 hours ago (https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/614161616783962116)
Kalle Rovanperä Test Days Skoda Fabia S2000 [VIDEO] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zrwZmuugqNQ&feature=youtu.be … (https://t.co/GFVc8ZtVHO)

Can someone please do some analyse on Kalle’s (14 yo) driving. I can see that the car is moving forward, turning and sliding sometimes but that’s about all.:) Only thing I noticed was at 1:25 why he was not cutting but that got an explanation at 1:28. A long turn.

tolis

8th July 2015, 00:30

I am just wondering if we have any news about Mikko Pajunen's plans for this year...

Jeppe

8th July 2015, 14:59

I am just wondering if we have any news about Mikko Pajunen's plans for this year...

Unfortunately no news to publish for the moment. We´ll see later this year if something come up...

Hartusvuori

25th September 2015, 08:44

Finnish rallying championship 2015 have its ultimate round this weekend in Tampere. Stages are renowed old 1000 Lakes stages like Västilä, Sahalahti and the most legendary of them all, Savo. This year's speciality is that SS Savo will be run twice but in both directions. This will for sure give new experiences for drivers and spectators.

Rally will start tonight with a super special stage in a trotting track after which they will run one proper stage tonight as well, SS2 Pengonpohja. That will start 18.30 CET, 19.30 local time so most of the crews will drive it in darkness.

Championship-wise Juha Salo in his privately-built 208 R5 has a stronghold on the title, but it's not certain yet. Jussi Vainionpää in his privately-built DS3 R5 has a chance too. If Vainionpää wins, Salo must be 3rd or 2nd.

There will also be four special stages with simple live broadcast, a couple of cameras in the forests. I've liked that thing in the previous event. First broadcast is tonight from SS Pengonpohja.

All the necessities here:

Entries: http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/30154/L%C3%A4ht%C3%B6lista.html
Live results: http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/20238/Livetulokset.html
Live TV: http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/1/216088/Ralli%20SM%20TV.html
GPS: http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/15R15_1/?v=m3
Splits (beta): http://gpspekka.kapsi.fi/rally/?id=15R15_1
Ralliradio (Finnish): http://www.ralliradio.fi/

Tom206wrc

25th September 2015, 21:01

Good start for Juha Salo after tonight's two first stages ;)

Hartusvuori

5th October 2015, 11:55

Interesting in-car from FRC Pirelli-ralli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=Szax6GXA2zk

360 degrees video. Now one can hardly complain about the angle!

dimviii

5th October 2015, 17:05

lol

pantealex

18th December 2015, 18:06

Twitter:
Ralli SM ‏@RalliSM
Motorsport feeds on rumour: 3 x WRC 1.6T and at least 10 x R5 in #ArcticLaplandRally #RalliSM #hearditthroughthegrapevine

That would be very good!

pantealex

22nd December 2015, 20:35

Toyota Gazoo juniors Takamoto Katsuta and Hiroki Arai will drive all 6 rallies (3 winter and 3 gravel)

Hartusvuori

14th January 2016, 12:04

Finnish Rallying Championship 2016, some news:

- Kristian Kiviniemi have bought a DS 3 R5 (ex-Olsen from Norway). They try to compete with it for the first time in 2nd round in Mikkeli. Arctic Rally they'll do with an Evo X (ex-Salo), unless it's sold before the event.
- Jarmo Berg will compete with Fabia S2000 (ex-Sääv from Sweden). Last year Berg was very spectacular, no guts, no glory kind of driver with C2, so of course we expect nothing less with the new car.
- Ville Hautamäki will compete with Gr. N Subaru. He has been top contender in 2WD with Honda for many years (reigning champion), but he has never competed in 4WD. Nice for a change.
- Mikko Lehessaari has entered the series with Fabia R5. Earlier the rumour had it that he might not do the whole series, but we'll see. He has not competed in 2 years, so getting rid of the wrist rust is the first thing.
- Mikko Eskelinen will do the whole series in Lancer WRC step2. As for Arctic Rally, there are two other Lancer WRCs on the list too.
- Still a lot unknown things for me as far as - for example - who'll drive Gardemeister's Fabia R5, who'll drive Printsport's R5s, etc.

F-Cup isn't F-Cup this year. It's a promoter owned brand, competitors were unhappy how the promoter handled things and demanded an intervention from our ASN, AKK. That happened. Brand owner brought F-Cup brand to Harrastemoottoriurheilu (which is now established organisation who also organize events, but with looser interpretation of the regs) with whom they should do the series in 2017 (this year they do a rallysprint F-Cup). AKK's F-series is called F-rallisarja and that is practically the continuation of the old F-Cup now. A bit of mess, you don't say.

Micke_VOC

15th January 2016, 23:44

tommeke_B

16th January 2016, 22:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CXl8xBgEw Just another day in Finland... :)

HarriK

20th January 2016, 09:57

Arctic Rally competitor list: (click "osallistujat)
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=4324&edit=0

pantealex

20th January 2016, 14:22

Arctic Rally competitor list: (click "osallistujat)
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=4324&edit=0

5 of them driving also in WRC Sweden
Al-Rahji Fiesta WRC
Pärn Fiesta R5
Shamiev Fiesta R5
Mayer P208T16 R5
Laivola 207 S2000

It´s allowed to use both:
15" WRC tyres (wide)
16" narrow tyres

Rallyper

20th January 2016, 20:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CXl8xBgEw Just another day in Finland... :)

Really hard one. I dont understand why marshalls dont put up warnings after a couple of crashes. They seems to have very high speed before the righthander.

HarriK

29th January 2016, 14:18

Arctic Rally has started.
Nikara really fastest at SS1. Beat Salo over 15sec at 24km long stage.
Al Rahji crashes before 5km at the stage.

GPS for all cars: http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/3R16_1/?v=m3

Results: http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/20238/Livetulokset.html

Split times: http://gpspekka.kapsi.fi/rally/?id=3R16_1

Itinerary: http://www.tenab.net/online2sm.htm

mousti

29th January 2016, 15:52

Arai is doing quite well!

Fly

29th January 2016, 18:22

Nikara 1 min clear after 4ss. I would have loved to see him at a higher level.

mousti

29th January 2016, 18:56

Nikara 1 min clear after 4ss. I would have loved to see him at a higher level.

I want to see him in Rally Estonia if someone can pull it of what Lukyanuk did last year, it's him!

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dimviii

29th January 2016, 19:30

photo taken from Michael Orr

https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12661812_10153908010849868_3626618944990166596_n.j pg?oh=255852330a856361ff71e19205f826ad&oe=573C5F6B

dimviii

29th January 2016, 20:13

Jarno Saari ‏@SaariJarno

This is how #FiestaR2 looks after contacting @RalliSM #ArcticRally snow bank.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ5nZw9UsAEz9ry.jpg:large

Sulland

29th January 2016, 21:00

Is Nikara driving a N4 Evo?

Co-FIN

29th January 2016, 21:03

Nikara is driving FIN-R evo9, lot more power than in N4

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dimviii

29th January 2016, 21:07

Nikara is driving FIN-R evo9, lot more power than in N4

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restrictor size?

Co-FIN

29th January 2016, 21:10

restrictor size?

34mm with ethanol or 35mm with 98octane. FIN-R group has been made to give new life to N4 cars. They can alao modify the engine (cams etc.). SM2-class cars are n4 or r4

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Jeppe

29th January 2016, 21:49

Jarno Saari ‏@SaariJarno

This is how #FiestaR2 looks after contacting @RalliSM #ArcticRally snow bank.

Actually it hit to a spruce and spruce broke down ;)

pantealex

29th January 2016, 23:22

photo taken from Michael Orr

https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12661812_10153908010849868_3626618944990166596_n.j pg?oh=255852330a856361ff71e19205f826ad&oe=573C5F6B

Broken gearbox for Al-Rajhi, not off road, as you can see in picture.

HarriK

30th January 2016, 10:18

Tommi Mäkinen helloouuu, please hire Nikara:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILKl0D7v90Q&feature=youtu.be

dimviii

30th January 2016, 17:42

what happened to Nikara at last stage?

makinen_fan

30th January 2016, 17:48

what happened to Nikara at last stage?

Broken suspension from what I read in twitter

focus206

30th January 2016, 18:41

shame for Nikara, I also would like for him to get a chance internationally. Very nice drive by Hiroki Arai, 3rd overall!

Fly

30th January 2016, 21:46

34mm with ethanol or 35mm with 98octane. FIN-R group has been made to give new life to N4 cars. They can alao modify the engine (cams etc.). SM2-class cars are n4 or r4

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345 HP according to Nikara.

Jeppe

31st January 2016, 14:56

Broken suspension from what I read in twitter

Broken rear control arm and that caused lost of rear shock absorber. Engine got 350Hp/750Nm

dimviii

31st January 2016, 15:20

Broken rear control arm and that caused lost of rear shock absorber. Engine got 350Hp/750Nm

touched violently a snowbank?

Jeppe

31st January 2016, 22:32

touched violently a snowbank?

No. Some parts of the stage were very rough. Unfortunately Jarkko didn´t got patience enough in those places... R5´s just got so much better suspension thab the good old Evo´s.

samWRC

14th February 2016, 13:01

Jari Ketomaa has entered to Vaakuna-Ralli with Mitsubishi R5 car. That's interesting.

br21

15th February 2016, 21:41

Vaakuna entries - where I can find?

Fly

16th February 2016, 14:40

Vaakuna entries - where I can find?

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=4179

Jukka Korhonen back with... a Fiesta R2.

OldF

26th February 2016, 23:22

Video from Vaakuna rally if someone is interested. Watch from about 1:45:00. Start of Salo with 208 T16 and Ketomaa whit Mirage R5.

http://www.lansi-savo.fi/vaakunaralli

garais22

27th February 2016, 21:54

Gryazin crashes into house :(
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/rallijs/5480-grjazinam-somijas-rallijs-beidzas-ar-avariju-foto/

Sulland

27th February 2016, 22:27

How did Katomaa find the Mirage vs the Ford?

Hartusvuori

28th February 2016, 11:47

I haven't heard any interview with Ketomaa comparing Mitsubishi to Ford. Paid drivers normally don't do that. Ketomaa's pace with Mitsubishi was surprisingly good. He finished 4th overall, 48 seconds behind Salo who had a clean run and had to step on it a bit to keep Veiby behind. Ketomaa lost huge chunk of time on SS2 due to snow ploughing. On Saturday stages he lost only 0,23s/km to Salo, running first on the road, Salo second. I was positively surprised on the performance of the car, considering the car's background.

Kristian Kiviniemi had his debut in DS3 R5, but his run was troubled by rear brake problems and he eventually retired after SS6. I'm expecting him to join fight for victories on gravel rallies.

OldF

28th February 2016, 12:57

Jarek Z

28th February 2016, 13:02

I haven't heard any interview with Ketomaa comparing Mitsubishi to Ford. Paid drivers normally don't do that.

Are you sure? I read Ketomaa's comments (in Polish) here:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/salo-uciekl-veiby-emu,66363

He says Mitsubishi R5 needs further development, but he hopes to continue driving this car.

Hartusvuori

28th February 2016, 18:57

Ketomaa said that he had engine problems on SS2.
“No power. It works ok for 10 sec but then the engine is dead.”
Jarkko Nikara was leading by 7,1 sec after SS5 but retired on SS6. Official reason was technical but from a Finnish forum it was puncture.
http://www.lansi-savo.fi/urheilu/moottoriurheilu/juha-salo-vei-vaakuna-rallin-perjantain-nikara-hiillostaa-puskurissa-ketomaa

SS6 was live today (00 car @ 11:40)
http://www.lansi-savo.fi/vaakunaralli

Nikara went off road on SS6 and tyre fell off the rim. Apparently some other technical issue occured too plus he lost a lot of time on SS6. He's driving on the limit all the time. Very spectacular. It's just that he'd someone to sponsor his driving. He's damn good, but there's no point really just to beat that Green Ol' Warhorse and retire in the end...

Zeakiwi

28th February 2016, 20:46

Are the snow conditiions more consistent in Finland than Sweden? Would the winter WRC rally be better to be held in Finland as well as NORF in summer?

Co-FIN

28th February 2016, 21:14

I we would like to have winter rally in Finland with 100% snowy conditions it should be in Rovaniemi at Arctic Rally. It's 50/50 if in southern Finland..

Hartusvuori

29th February 2016, 05:51

Like Co-Fin said, only far North for 100% certainty. During Rally Sweden, conditions were worse in Finland halfway down than they were in Hagfors region. Rallies were cancelled. Then again, not every year does Rally Sweden have problems with weather, same as in Finland, some winters are better than others. At the moment conditions are the best, but it can change drastically in three, four days if temperatures would go up.

Fly

1st March 2016, 11:00

Tahko rally entry list (11-12 march)
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionEnrollListPlain.aspx?id=4315

I will follow Juuso Nordgren (208 R2) who destroyed the opposition on Vaakuna rally. Do Finnish members agree he's a got prospect?
Vuorisalo not on the list. Adam Cup Germany in 2016?

Rally Power

1st March 2016, 20:38

Impressive weekend from Even’s drivers: Veiby 2nd in Finland just 2,3s behind Salo and Kristoffersson (Fabia S2000) 2nd in Norway just 7,9s behind Grondal! It’ll be interesting to follow if he gets serious about rallying!

Nice rally from Ketomaa and the Mirage. It’s a shame not seeing the car homologated.

Fly

11th March 2016, 21:37

http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/20238/Livetulokset.html
Veiby faster than Nikara and Salo after 2ss.

dimviii

11th March 2016, 21:53

what cars are they driving?

TWRC

11th March 2016, 22:09

what cars are they driving?
Veiby - Fabia R5, Salo - 208 T16, Nikara - Gr.N+ Lancer Evo IX.

12th March 2016, 16:55

OC Veiby SKoda won Tahko Ralli. Asunmaa Subaru (SM2) 2nd and Vihavainen Mitsubishi WRC 3rd.

Salo (208 T16 R5), Vainionpää (DS3 R5) and Kiviniemi (DS3 R5) went off the road on the SS 3 and lost a lot of time.

Nikara with the old Evo 9 was once again (3rd round & 3rd time!) leading the rally after the SS 5, but the rear differential broke down and was forced to retire.

Hard to understand how this kind of bad luck is possible, but he has the speed! Hope someone can help him to find some money and hire a R5 car...

https://www.facebook.com/printsportracing/videos/1039190002807237/?autoplay_reason=all_page_organic_allowed&video_container_type=0&app_id=6628568379

Mirek

12th March 2016, 18:46

It may not be just bad luck. Maybe the N+ istoo strong for the old horse to endure.

dimviii

12th March 2016, 19:20

or maybe not so good serviced.

Mirek

12th March 2016, 19:23

Maybe but I don't see anything that strange on drivetrain problems with overpowered gr.N car. It's not especially reliable even with 33 mm restrictor.

Sulland

12th March 2016, 21:07

Nikara with the old Evo 9 was once again (3rd round & 3rd time!) leading the rally after the SS 5, but the rear differential broke down and was forced to retire.

Hard to understand how this kind of bad luck is possible, but he has the speed! Hope someone can help him to find some money and hire a R5 car...

Gazoo Mäkinen, do you hear: hire Nikara, he has real potential!

dimviii

12th March 2016, 22:36

Maybe but I don't see anything that strange on drivetrain problems with overpowered gr.N car. It's not especially reliable even with 33 mm restrictor.

i dont agree.If serviced and inspected periodically there is no problem.Even at monster powered road/circuit time attack cars

Mirek

12th March 2016, 22:49

dimviii

13th March 2016, 09:53

I don't agree either. You can have a look in rally results from anywhere in the world. Fact is that gr.N cars are less reliable than purpose-built 4WD cars especially in long and rought events. The most common mechanical problems are definitely those of drivetrain - I would say mostly gearboxes and driveshafts and most of these problems happen on first gear which means it's related to the torque extremum.

i didnt said that N cars are more reliable than purposed build cars.I said about Nikaras evo 9 rear differential.
And if they are well serviced and inspected there is no problem.

TWRC

13th March 2016, 10:18

i didnt said that N cars are more reliable than purposed build cars.I said about Nikaras evo 9 rear differential.
And if they are well serviced and inspected there is no problem.
For safety reasons, everywhere I went they change the gearbox at the overnight service on Gr.N cars, some wealthier teams even the rear diff. Many times (i.e. especially on evets with a lot of hairpins) even with these precautions the cars are breaking their transmissions a lot of times. But obviously, good maintenance helps this matter, but that's just a part of the deal IMO.

dimviii

13th March 2016, 11:04

For safety reasons, everywhere I went they change the gearbox at the overnight service on Gr.N cars, some wealthier teams even the rear diff. Many times (i.e. especially on evets with a lot of hairpins) even with these precautions the cars are breaking their transmissions a lot of times. But obviously, good maintenance helps this matter, but that's just a part of the deal IMO.

At Acropolis rally they didnt changed diffs and gearboxes every day,even the top teams with winning cars.Maybe 1 time.But that was same for wrc cars also.
To say that they are unreliable after some 20+ years winning championships worldwide at national and world championships is not true.
About the rallies with hairpins i dont agree.If it is inspected,well maintened with right fluids inside,and right preload there is no way to broke after 150-200 stage km.Yes the stress is bigger,specially at asphalt,but a well fixed diff will not have a problem.
Gear boxes are not oem parts but Quaife,Drenth Samsonas etc A fresh serviced one have not problem for 3 days rally at wrc level.
Because is not a sequential,big role plays the guy who uses it for right use.

Rallyper

13th March 2016, 11:48

Two things as Dimviii says:
1) user
2) maintenance

But like to add that a snow rallysurface for me looks more nice to the car than hairpins/tarmacrallies.

Mirek

13th March 2016, 13:19

Dimitris, as TWRC wrote teams here in CZ also often change differentials in overnight service. Even with the best cars such as Pech's Evo they did so. Many also do other pre-caucious measures such as careful starts into the stage without locked central diff.

The example with Acropolis. You write maybe once. But they can't change them more times as FIA rules don't allow You to have more than one spare (if I'm not mistaken).

dimviii

13th March 2016, 14:05

so you say that a diff at an evo N car will not cope a regional rally thats why they will change it?
Yes at Acropolis with these restrictions they dont have problem to finish and win rallies.Much more kms than 1 day at regional rallies, much more heat,and much more preload for gravel use.

Mirek

13th March 2016, 14:13

No, I mean that there have been issues with drivetrain reliability with some 600 Nm of FIA engine hence the frequent pre-caucious changes of the diffs and that the logic tells me that with even higher torque the reliability must be worse. To which extend I can't tell but it can hardly stay same.

Mirek

15th March 2016, 15:44

Video of Veiby from Tahko Rally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7XP06DpJok

By the way are those really Lancers WRC Step.1 used in FRC?

OldF

15th March 2016, 18:43

Yes. In FIN R4WD the restrictor size is 35 mm with pump fuel and 34 mm with ethanol.

http://www.rallism.fi/content/en/1/10090/FRC.html

"The SM(FRC) vehicle classes
Finnish championship titles are awarded separately to drivers, co-drivers and teams and also separately in four-wheel drives and two-wheel drives. There are the following two four-wheel drive vehicle classes and two two-wheel drive vehicle classes in FRC:
SM(FRC)1 or Super4: FIA R5, Super 2000 Rally (2.0 and 1.6T), FIN R4WD (also incl. WRC cars homologated 31.12.2002 or earlier)
SM(FRC)2 or Production4: FIA N, FIA R4 and FIN N4WD
SM(FRC)3 or R2: FIA R1 and FIA R2B cars up to 1600 cc
SM(FRC)4 or Super2: FIA R3 (both R3T and R3D), FIN R2WD and group N up to 2000 cc, Super 1600, and diesel cars in groups N and A

pantealex

15th March 2016, 18:46

By the way are those really Lancers WRC Step.1 used in FRC?

Real WRC Step2, I believe. (2 pieces)

TWRC

15th March 2016, 19:33

Real WRC Step2, I believe. (2 pieces)
Yes, both Step2, Vihavainen's is KP51 RWO, Jari Tuuri's (Eskelinen drives it this year) is KN52 XBB. Also, Papa Latvala has KR02 DLY and two Evo IIIs, M6 MRE and a replica based upon the factory car.

Jeppe

15th March 2016, 21:23

Yes, both Step2, Vihavainen's is KP51 RWO, Jari Tuuri's (Eskelinen drives it this year) is KN52 XBB. Also, Papa Latvala has KR02 DLY and two Evo IIIs, M6 MRE and a replica based upon the factory car.

This is correct info, but I think Eskelinen owns now the KN52 XBB and Tuuri got Eskelinen´s old Evo IX..

Hartusvuori

10th June 2016, 05:39

Again, time to exhume this thread.

Finnish rallying championship continues tomorrow with Enset-ralli in Sastamala. Nine stages and all ran once makes it a proper rallying day. Stage mileage is a bit over 100 kilometres. First stage starts already at 9.20 CET (10.20 Finnish time) and first car expected in the finish just before six o'clock. 2WD crews run first, followed by 4WDs and other classes.

No big surprises on the entry list. Nice to have OC Veiby in Fabia R5 continuing in the series. Depending on his success tomorrow, he could hold a chance to challenge for the title very much. Juha Salo is his main opponent. This will be first gravel event in DS3 R5 for Kristian Kiviniemi making it interesting to see how he has gotten used to the car now. Ari Vihavainen must be nominated for one of the top drivers here too. Stages are on large parts very fast, so with his WRC Mitsubishi he has some advantage.

New R5s on the start line are TMR's Japanese drivers Arai and Katsuta starting with MM-Motorsport's Fiesta R5s.

One fast Mitsubishi driver is missing as Jarkko Nikara is not taking part.

Stage map: http://www.ensetralli.fi/attachments/text_editor/146.pdf?name=Reittikartta (PDF)
Results, GPS, etc from http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/1/10005/Etusivu.html (not updated just yet)

br21

14th December 2016, 09:18

I know it's still pretty early, but maybe somewhere I can already find online/updated entry list for Arctic?

samWRC

14th December 2016, 10:18

I know it's still pretty early, but maybe somewhere I can already find online/updated entry list for Arctic?

https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=4844&edit=0 and click "osallistujat". Only two entrants at the moment.

br21

14th December 2016, 16:37

thanx a lot!! who's going there? I should be in Rovaniemi.

pantealex

14th December 2016, 18:37

thanx a lot!! who's going there? I should be in Rovaniemi.

I´m going, staying in santaclaus hotel.

pantealex

15th December 2016, 08:04

I know it's still pretty early, but maybe somewhere I can already find online/updated entry list for Arctic?

Huge amount of entries will come 2-3 days before entries closes and about 25 in final day.

Totally there will be more than 120 entries. 3-4 WRC and maybe 15 R5´s

OldF

15th December 2016, 08:54

Would be nice to see some 2017 WRC cars there.

PLuto

15th December 2016, 12:03

I am not sure if homologation for 2017 WRC cars is valid out of WRC events now...

Mirek

15th December 2016, 15:36

Any ASN can allow whatever it wants on the national level.

br21

15th December 2016, 17:17

Looking forward to it. I don't expect any 2017 WRC cars, but anyway competition should be tought, like always.

Co-FIN

19th December 2016, 10:27

Hartusvuori

27th December 2016, 07:26

Yazeed with Fiesta WRC now on Arctic Rally entries.

pantealex

8th January 2017, 17:21

Jarkko Nikara is going to Arctic Rally with new car and surprise co-driver.

Strong rumor says:
Subaru from Tommi
Japanise lady co-driver, very close friend of Akio Toyoda

tolis

8th January 2017, 17:56

Jarkko Nikara is going to Arctic Rally with new car and surprise co-driver.

Strong rumor says:
Subaru from Tommi
Japanise lady co-driver, very close friend of Akio Toyoda

Sae Kitagawa who is codriver of Kovalainen in Japan?

dupanton

8th January 2017, 18:22

Jarkko Nikara is going to Arctic Rally with new car and surprise co-driver.

Sponsored by John Deere again?

http://blog.machinefinder.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/snow-removal.jpg

br21

8th January 2017, 20:46

Yes, Subaru from TMR for Nikara is sure, don't know the codriver

donlorean

9th January 2017, 09:01

I think that it will be that Katsuta's ex-codriver... Adachi?

pantealex

9th January 2017, 13:56

I think that it will be that Katsuta's ex-codriver... Adachi?

if she is sleeping with Mr Toyoda...
source told me that she is very close friend...

donlorean

12th January 2017, 05:32

https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2017/challengeprogram_rally/0112-01.html

Nikara-Adachi

Rallyper

12th January 2017, 20:31

Maybe this is Nikaras´best option to go further. Better than his co-driver ...

pantealex

13th January 2017, 08:34

Nikara-Adachi has entered to SM1 class.

SM1 = R5,S2000,WRC 02 and evo/sti which are not FIA legal
SM2 = N and R4

To me that means: They are going to drive with something else later, Yaris R5 ?
Nikara is TGR´s main test driver for new R5.

Why Marko Salminen is with Takamoto Katsuta?
My bet is that Miikka Anttila or Kaj Lindström is going to end his career soon and Salminen will be new co-driver of Latvala/Hänninen

Co-FIN

14th January 2017, 21:37

pantealex

15th January 2017, 11:53

- Nikara wanted to compete in SM1-class, more power = more fun.
- Currently no R5 Yaris, they dont even have an proper engine at customer program for this car. Also need´s whole new factory etc.
- Takamoto´s previous Co-Driver went back to Elfyn Evans. Marko live´s in Finland and is professional what he does. This is step up also for his career and he´s working for Gazoo now.
- This case isin´t related to Anttila or Lindström at all.

All true!

but:
-Nikara has never won FC, with in SM2 that may have been happening
-TMR will develop R2 and R5, but aren´t going to build new factory...
-Takamoto´s another ex co-driver is with Nikara.
-we will see.

=)

ps.Ville Ruokanen was testing with Printsport Fabia R5

Co-FIN

15th January 2017, 12:01

All true!

but:
-Nikara has never won FC, with in SM2 that may have been happening
-TMR will develop R2 and R5, but aren´t going to build new factory...
-Takamoto´s another ex co-driver is with Nikara.
-we will see.

=)

ps.Ville Ruokanen was testing with Printsport Fabia R5

I thought that he will be in SM2, but it was Jarkko's decission. SM1 and SM2 spec cars has quite big cap in engine.

Will be hard on current facilities. To make 50-200 cars instead of current 9-10..

Arai and Takamoto are still competing for the place so no guarantee for wrc seat. For Marko this is ofc step up to get place in works team, get paid, so the right race's the future. Much smarter than running in frc for years :)

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pantealex

17th January 2017, 14:44

152 entries to Tunturiralli (Arctic Lapland Rally)
5x WRC
14x R5
entry list with numbers:
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=4844&edit=0 click "osallistujat"
note: foreign privateers numbers 128-135

br21

17th January 2017, 15:29

Maybe someone knows about some tests around Rovaniemi on Saturday 21.01? I will have one day free then before our tests so would like to maybe see something.

Tom206wrc

28th January 2017, 08:48

It's so good to see a 208 T16 not hampered by reliability problems !!! Juha Salo leading the field at Arctic Lapland Rally with 3 stages left to go :)

Behind him, Asunmaa(+16") and Mänty(+22"8) driving Skoda Fabia R5 and Nikara(+22") his Subaru...

Tom206wrc

28th January 2017, 09:35

Why do they write Salo lost 22' on SS6(he was +9" before they changed time) ???? :mad:

Edit: it was a problem with the times, RAS for Juha...

Tom206wrc

28th January 2017, 13:58

Oh noooo, gutted, Teemu Asunmaa beats Juha Salo at the end of the Arctic Lapland for 7"7(big time on the 54km final stage) :mark:

Zeakiwi

28th January 2017, 17:54

Asunmaa - how old is he? ewrc does not appear to have details.
https://youtu.be/tmskdORawiA (stage 3)
Is Salo's car getting a bit old? Does PSA have a newer R5 for him?

dimviii

28th January 2017, 18:03

what about the 2 Japanese Toyota drivers ? (Katsuta,Arai)

Zeakiwi

29th January 2017, 01:55

Jarkko Nikara highest placed TMR car - 4th in Subaru
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=36900&t=Arctic-Lapland-Rally-2017
11th- Hiroki Arai
45th - Katsuta

Jarek Z

29th January 2017, 10:55

11th- Hiroki Arai
45th - Katsuta

Jeez, they don't seem to be making any progress, do they?

Fly

29th January 2017, 11:17

Asunmaa - how old is he? ewrc does not appear to have details.
https://youtu.be/tmskdORawiA (stage 3)
Is Salo's car getting a bit old? Does PSA have a newer R5 for him?

Asunmaa is 29.
PSA R5's are a disaster even with the evo

OldF

29th January 2017, 11:30

Jarkko Nikara with only RWD on the last stage. Read from a Finnish forum that he made a gear change from fifth gear to second and the front drive didn’t like it. Maybe we will have more news when pantealex and br21 returns from the rally.

Asunmaa - how old is he? ewrc does not appear to have details.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=19717

br21

29th January 2017, 19:49

yes, truth with Nikara, pity as he was driving really well.
great event, really special, one of a kind. japanese juniors - one had technical issues, other lost lot of time on one stage. which is nothing extraordinary when you look how often it happened to other drivers, those stages are really demanding. Salo was driving great, using his experience and showing that well maintained PSA R5 can be good car! Other DS3 R5 also finished high.

tc10a

29th January 2017, 20:10

Jeez, they don't seem to be making any progress, do they?

They seem to have improved: Katsuta - 4th stage time (SM1) (+10.8s) on 22km SS1 behind Nikara, Salo and Manty.
Also Arai did quite well after 2016 performances. Until penultimate stage fifth overall (SM1) and some 3rd and 4th fastest times. Some problem or off in the last stage.

Zeakiwi

30th January 2017, 05:26

Salo testing and day 1
https://youtu.be/1KqcDmVGF-I Salo

https://youtu.be/O49Yn1Ayyh4 day 1

Could the Arctic be run a week or two later? Can a few stages be run over the border in Russia?

Finalnd could have two world rallies a winter and summer event. Run a 'Midnight Sun' event in Sweden a few weeks before NORF?

Hartusvuori

30th January 2017, 07:38

Could the Arctic be run a week or two later? Can a few stages be run over the border in Russia?

It's about 200 kms to closest border crossing. I see no point stretching the route over to Russia.

HarriK

31st January 2017, 11:11

sindroms

31st January 2017, 12:29

Translated by google translator (so quality is what is...)

Kalle Rovanperä participation of Finnish rally races

01/31/2017
" Back
AKK-Motorsport Association's Board of Directors has granted in accordance with the cross from the union petition Kalle Rovanperä exception, the right to participate in the R5-class car in Finland AKK-Motorsport ry (birth 1.10 in 2000) The permission of the competition held in rally races. The right to give Rovanperä opportunity to participate in, for example, national rallies and Finnish Rally Championship series races in. Since Rovanperä currently licensed to drive in Latvia, she is not entitled to collect Championship points. Participation is open-ended, until Kalle Rovanperä the age of 18. AKK-Motorsport ry reserves the right to cancel or amend the right of participation. The government's decision applies only to the act of invocation.
AKK-Motorsport ry

Some comments from Harri to go4speed.lv
"We were waiting this for a quiet long time, we are happy now. Thank the Finnish ASN. This decision was pleasant surprise for us, so no plans for Finland yet. Now we got to start to do our plans. Latvian championship remains a priority for us. Maybe we will take a part in SM Vaakuna-Ralli which is a week after Rally Sarma".

http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/rallijs/6538-rovanpera-sanem-atlauju-startet-somijas-rallija-prioritate-paliek-latvijas-cempionats/

Hartusvuori

31st January 2017, 19:35

Vaakuna-ralli is turning out to be an event to wait for. Interesting entries coming, Ketomaa, Rovanperä possible, some others too and who knows how Baltic drivers treat the event (it's a part of Baltic trophy).

Essaj

3rd February 2017, 20:21

Kalle Rovanperä confirmed to Vaakuna-ralli (17.-18.2.), also another young talent Alex Forsström (20) making his 4WD debut with TGS Skoda R5.
Both of them will be also driving in the 3rd FRC event in Tahko ( 10.-11.3.)!

15th February 2017, 12:52

SM Vaakuna-Ralli
List of entries:
http://www.ajaksi.fi/docs/Mikkeli17/osallistujaluettelo.pdf

Very interesting rally! Jari Ketomaa is driving in his backyard, but not eligible for the points (non-homologated Mirage R5) & the same with Kalle Rovanperä (special permission), but they must be fighting the overall win. Arctic winner Teemu Asunmaa is hard to beat, Juha Salo is always there and Marko Mänty showed in Arctic that he has the speed. Jarkko Nikara is always fast, but it will be difficult to beat R5 cars with the Subaru. His own Green Monster would be probably faster...

In the SM3 category Jari Huttunen driving the Opel ADAM R2 must be the favourite, but Emil Lindholm (208 R2) should be not far away...

pantealex

15th February 2017, 13:27

Ketomaa´s car is SpaceStar, facelift version of Mirage.

Subaru of Nikara is not N+, engine is custom build, faster car than old Evo9.

15th February 2017, 19:55

Ketomaa´s car is SpaceStar, facelift version of Mirage.

Depending of the country...

Subaru of Nikara is not N+, engine is custom build, faster car than old Evo9.

I know, but Jarkko said that at least in Arctic Rally Evo 9 would have been faster, because the top speed is 210 km/h and Subaru only 190 km/h. Of course in Rovaniemi the roads were much faster than in Mikkeli area, so it will be different story. We will see...

satukata

16th February 2017, 19:44

http://www.vaakunaralli.fi/katsojat/netti-tv/

Live web TV next rally in 3 stages

Rallyper

16th February 2017, 19:50

I know, but Jarkko said that at least in Arctic Rally Evo 9 would have been faster, because the top speed is 210 km/h and Subaru only 190 km/h. Of course in Rovaniemi the roads were much faster than in Mikkeli area, so it will be different story. We will see...

What about average speed in Arctic Rally?

dodge33cymru

16th February 2017, 22:14

http://www.vaakunaralli.fi/katsojat/netti-tv/

Live web TV next rally in 3 stages
Might give this a try for a motorsport fix this weekend! Thanks

Racing Ka

17th February 2017, 18:43

Rovanperä leads after 2 stages by 12,6s!

Allez Andruet

17th February 2017, 18:53

Wow. Just WOW. This Rovanperä Junior is something else.

dimviii

17th February 2017, 19:06

Jarno Saari ‏@SaariJarno
@RalliSM Fresh photo of happy @KalleRovanpera arriving to service after first day of @SMVaakunaRalli

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C446t_QVMAA0xNX.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4qCMiAW8AIDDEd.jpg

sindroms

17th February 2017, 19:08

Wow. Just WOW. This Rovanperä Junior is something else.

We used to it here in Latvia. Now it's finnish guys turn used to it :)

satukata

17th February 2017, 20:22

We used to it here in Latvia. Now it's finnish guys turn used to it :)

I have seen Latvia results but i didn´t expect so strong start in Finland!! Amazing!

satukata

17th February 2017, 20:27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBKOkwg7jkA&feature=youtu.be Kalle 11 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMDNDXpu86w Kalle Rovanperä - Funny co-driver 13years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc10orKsvWY 14 years

and 8 years old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyyWnUAgMQ4

Big Talent!

dodge33cymru

18th February 2017, 09:59

http://www.vaakunaralli.fi/katsojat/netti-tv/

Live web TV next rally in 3 stages
Oops, because I didn't realise there's a two hour time difference, is this footage available for viewing anywhere after the live broadcast, does anyone know? Cheers.

OldF

18th February 2017, 10:56

Click on ”Tallenteet”. The three first minutes are blank so don’t worry.

The Audi Quattro @ 26:40 so probably not much to watch before that.

Jarek Z

18th February 2017, 11:57

Unfortunately Kalle Rovanpera had a puncture on SS3. He lost over 30 seconds, but was very fast on SS4 and is still in the second place overall.
Teemu Asunmaa leads the rally. Russian talent Nikolai Griazin is third. Juha Salo only 4th!

Rallyper

18th February 2017, 12:30

GPS times on Vaakunaralli stages not the same as official. Worth mentioning.

dodge33cymru

18th February 2017, 12:45

Thanks for letting me know how to get to the footage - enjoyed that more than I should!

Tom206wrc

18th February 2017, 12:50

Can't see the full results of SS4 Vaakuna, Live-timing frozen :(

Rallyper

18th February 2017, 12:52

Can't see the full results of SS4 Vaakuna, Live-timing frozen :(

Same here. Kind of delay. :)

OldF

18th February 2017, 13:24

Live results doesn’t work at all but you can follow GPS-splits http://gpspekka.kapsi.fi/rally/?id=9R17_2 but as Rallyper said, they are not accurate.

br21

18th February 2017, 13:44

Here it seems to work OK:
http://www.ajaksi.com/ralliajaksi/tulos.php?yk=sm&ek=7&lk=0

GPS split times are not official ones and not 100% accurate as they are based on GPS not on official measurements.

Rallyper

18th February 2017, 16:23

Not over yet but in minutes and Kalle Rovanperä about to win 2nd round of Finnish Championship. 16,5 yo. Beat that! History making in Finland.

br21

18th February 2017, 16:34

Not over yet but in minutes and Kalle Rovanperä about to win 2nd round of Finnish Championship. 16,5 yo. Beat that! History making in Finland.

Yes, he won. And on last stage needed to overtake one car, and still managed to win the stage and whole rally. With puncture and overtaking, his first ever on home soil... I follow him in Baltics for few years already, but today is surely start of something big...

tpt010

18th February 2017, 16:42

The second weekend in a row that I can't believe. Absolutely amazing. Congratulations Kalle!!

Tom206wrc

19th February 2017, 15:10

Great performance from Opel junior Huttunen who beats Lindholm(winner of Arctic Lapland) :)

Ucci

19th February 2017, 18:23

This is epic!! The story is just going on and on....I wouldn't like to be in skin of older drivers beaten by sixteen years old kid.....awesome.

dimviii

19th February 2017, 18:56

do we know if Kalle was on same tyres as the other crews?

Essaj

19th February 2017, 19:21

do we know if Kalle was on same tyres as the other crews?

Yes he was

dimviii

19th February 2017, 19:33

Yes he was

are you sure,because i read on twitter that wasn't.

Rallyper ‏@Rallyper

@rallyparadise A bit confused here. Kalle drove with tyres not permitted in @RalliSM ? Comparing Times' useless then. @HartusvuoriWRC

Rally Paradise ‏@rallyparadise

@Rallyper @HartusvuoriWRC Tyres must have been permitted, but not able to get @RalliSM points. He is driving with the Latvian licence

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_02_2017/post-177-0-71042700-1487437135.jpg

Jarek Z

19th February 2017, 22:03

A few videos from the rally:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/wielkie-zwyciestwo-rovanpery,74098

Mirek

19th February 2017, 22:17

Jarek Z

19th February 2017, 22:26

Are there full results somewhere? I mean not only separate classes which are on the live timing page but all together? For example I haven't managed to find Gryazin on the live timing page in any class. He is not in the list of retirements either.

I'm guessing it is yet another rally with multiple entry lists. I'm further guessing that Griazin was third overall in the whole rally (a great result!), but wasn't classified in the Finnish rally championship. That must be why you can't see him in the results. However, he was classified in something called Baltic Rally Trophy, which he won. Isn't it a bit schisophrenic?

Co-FIN

19th February 2017, 23:02

Co-FIN

19th February 2017, 23:13

Are there full results somewhere? I mean not only separate classes which are on the live timing page but all together? For example I haven't managed to find Gryazin on the live timing page in any class. He is not in the list of retirements either.

This Baltic rally was totally different from national race, i think FIA or National ASN didnt allow them in national results.

Results will be here http://www.ajaksi.com/ralliajaksi/ but server is down due high traffic.. Also rallyradio had 10times more listeners than normally. Stage's also had huge amount of spectators. Kalle coming to drive here made big impact..

Onboard from last stage SS9 by Teemu Asunmaa. Both him and Kalle where driving flatout. Teemu lost 4,5s to Kalle, stage was 23,8kms long. Third was Juha Salo +19,4s to Kalle.

https://youtu.be/N7n1LxSPJ4w

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Rallyper

20th February 2017, 09:54

are you sure,because i read on twitter that wasn't.

Rallyper ‏@Rallyper

@rallyparadise A bit confused here. Kalle drove with tyres not permitted in @RalliSM ? Comparing Times' useless then. @HartusvuoriWRC

Rally Paradise ‏@rallyparadise

@Rallyper @HartusvuoriWRC Tyres must have been permitted, but not able to get @RalliSM points. He is driving with the Latvian licence

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_02_2017/post-177-0-71042700-1487437135.jpg

Must clear out that my question was because of him not able to take points. Had happened before that he competitors uses different tyres depending on circumstances. Him not getting points was one, to me. However had nothing to do with tyres in that perspective.

Fast Eddie WRC

20th February 2017, 09:55

Nice piece on Kalle by Rallying UK:

https://medium.com/@rallyinguk/when-kalle-met-bananarama-7dac7a2d046d#.4nde2hdnw

Co-FIN

20th February 2017, 10:07

Rallyper

20th February 2017, 10:15

To score points you have to be 18years old

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Yap, know that now. Before I thought his exemption also allowed him points. (my bad finnish)

dimviii

20th February 2017, 13:57

thanks guys its clear now.

OldF

21st February 2017, 09:23

Now http://www.ajaksi.com/ralliajaksi/index.php is up and running. Nikolay Gryazin was third overall 49 s slower than Kalle but 15 s faster than Juha Salo.

Keskeyttäneet = retirement
AT-pisteet = penalty
Tilastot = statistics
Lähtöön oikeutettujen lista = Entry list of approved crews
Maali = finish

Mirek

21st February 2017, 11:08

Thanks

Essaj

6th June 2017, 20:05

This saturday (10.6.2017) we're finally getting Kalle Rovanperä back into FRC!
SM O.K auto rally is going to be Kalle's 2nd ever FRC event and a first one on gravel.
Also Juuso Nordgren (20yo) is going to be one to watch! Juuso was already 2nd on his 4wd debut in the last FRC event in Riihimäki!
Interesting to see if the last events winner Marko Mänty, Juha Salo, Teemu Asunmaa or Jarkko Nikara can challenge the two youngsters!