Finnish rallying championship news

[rallye-vid]

R.i.p ... :(

[Hartusvuori]

The link in my previous post has been updated with a picture from the scene. Evo IX and what looks to me Corolla GT. What adds to the misfortune is that the short piece of road they used was mainly straight with good visibility, but there was this one crest...

[OldF]

What a tragedy.

R.I.P.

Mostly Google translated.

“Two rally car collided violently with each other on Sunday night at 19 at the Kallionsolantie road Seinäjoki Ämmälänkylässä. The second was a passenger in the cars of 27-year-old man from Isokyrö, who perished in the accident.

The 25-year-old driver from Isokyrö seriously injured. Also, the driver of the second car from Lapua, 26-year-old man was seriously injured. Both drivers' injuries are serious, but their condition is Monday morning, according to data firm.

This is a 1 km road for maintenance use, which was closed on the other end with a barrier. During exercise, the road segments at both ends was also persons to prevent unauthorized access to the road. For some reason the information of two cars starting at opposite direction was not communicated between the drivers and other staff.

Race Cars hit a sharp single stretch of road directly to the heads-hillock and fell him crash scene. The speed of both cars is expected to be around 150 km per hour. Hillock is so high that it prevented visibility from both directions of travel.

Both drivers are testing a racing car drivers and vehicles were the most appropriate safety equipment when equipped. All the cars were wearable helmet and they had a safety belt.”

[Rallyper]

Very sad news - but should mean better communications will be compulsatory, also the way it performs. It should start from drivers but surely also will come from public authorities.

[Hartusvuori]

http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Ovisep%E4t-ralli%202013/_MG_0990.JPG?img=small

Greetings from Ovisepät Ralli! Another nice day at the rally. It was sunny and dry day - which of course meant quite a bit of dust, something I'm clearly not used to yet. We had a full day, first driving through stages we had the possibility to go, choosing places and then spectating two, or actually three stages, as first stage was the junior FRC drivers only, some 20+ cars.

Ovisepät Ralli has some old 1000 Lakes stages, SS1/2 Hauhanpohja should ring a bell to some at least. We found two nice places there, first the jump pictured above and also tightening right few hundred metres before the jump. I stayed at the right-hander the whole time. Kari Hämäläinen with his Fiesta S2000 started it, coming two fast and braking heavily into the ditch. Here you can see it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv93bmjW9y8&feature=player_detailpage#t=48s). Later on four similar but not as fast offs at the place. Then we moved to SS5, another tightening right hander, but that was on a soft road and soon the ruts made everyone drive similar line. Lots of frost damage still on that small part of the road. All in all, nice and relaxed day.

This rally also had some drivers from FRC to use it as a test for gravel season. A positive surprise was how Teemu Asunmaa in his Impreza won againts Joni Nikko, a far more experienced 4WD driver. Coming to think of it, this could've been Asunmaa's first 4WD rally on gravel. On 2WD Marko Mänty (Civic) was around half a minute faster than Jaro Kinnunen (208 R2). Mänty is arguably the fastest 2WD driver in Finland.

Last weekend accident cast a shadow over this event too. A moment of silence was held at the start ceremonies in respect of the victim of the accident.

You can see my friend's pictures from the rally here: Ovisepät-ralli 2013 (http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Ovisep%C3%A4t-ralli+2013/)

[NikoP]

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss40/ralli1/nikko-1_zps8ab4afc2.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss40/ralli1/nurmi_zps72262523.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss40/ralli1/kopra_zps64ee6531.jpg

My photos from Joutsa: Ovisepät Ralli (http://nikop.kuvat.fi/kuvat/2013/Ovisep%E4t+Ralli/)

It was indeed quite dusty :)

[Hartusvuori]

Entries for first gravel FRC event Pohjanmaa-ralli closes tomorrow. None really surprising entries so far except former WRC Academy driver Fredrik Åhlin in Fiesta R2. Will be interesting to compare his speed against Finnish experts Lindroos, Mänty, Kinnunen, Pinomäki, etc. Let's hope his visit to Western coast isn't such a rollercoster as his last year's take on Rally Finland was...

[Hartusvuori]

I don't see Jarkko Nikara on WRC Sardegna entry list, but the weekend before he has now entered FRC Pohjanmaa-ralli with an Evo IX.

[Juha_Koo]

The Fast is back...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhxcOr_Lhu8

[Hartusvuori]

FRC Pohjanmaa-ralli, Laihia, entry list (pdf):
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Handlers/Attachment.ashx?id=4543&hash=6a2ecbe0&full=1

Joonas Lindroos in C2 will lead the way - 4WD drivers will start after 2WD FRC classes.

The event will start this Saturday, June 15th, at 11.01 Finnish time. Finish ceremonies will start at around 17.30.

There will be 6 stages over 90,2 kms, total distance 219 km. Looking at the schedule, it looks very modern and not in a positive sense. But also effective as two stages will be repeated.

SS1 - time 11.19 - 25,34 kms
SS2 - time 12.11 - 4,65 kms
service
SS3 - time 13.53 - 14,97 kms
SS4 - time 14.26 - 6,70 kms
service
SS5 - time 16.06 - 25,34 kms
SS6 - time 16.44 - 14,97 kms

I will attend, of course. Closest FRC event for me easily, yet I've never been to any event in that particular area of the region, so can't tell much about the roads. There's also a big rock festival in the city this weekend, so it'll be three nights of rock n' roll (or indie hipster electro and retro comebacks, but rock n' roll sounds better) and full day of rallying in the middle. I'll be so refreshened by Monday...

[sindroms]

FRC Pohjanmaa-ralli, Laihia, entry list (pdf):
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Handlers/Attachment.ashx?id=4543&hash=6a2ecbe0&full=1

Joonas Lindroos in C2 will lead the way - 4WD drivers will start after 2WD FRC classes.

Since when in Finland is this kind of start order?

[Hartusvuori]

Since when in Finland is this kind of start order?

This is for the first time, as far as I know. It's a test to see how it works. I still don't know why it's so, but still, a test.

[Susiraja]

This is for the first time, as far as I know. It's a test to see how it works. I still don't know why it's so, but still, a test.

To my knowledge they wanted to give more visibility for a change for the 2wd cars also. In the summer time they don't even cut too deep ruts before the 4wd cars.

[Hartusvuori]

To my knowledge they wanted to give more visibility for a change for the 2wd cars also. In the summer time they don't even cut too deep ruts before the 4wd cars.

Also, there are more competition with 2WD cars at the moment. On fast gravel stages they can be very spectacular too, adding the noise it's beautiful.

[Fly]

Tulossivu (http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/)

[Fly]

Tulossivu (http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/)

My 5 cents on Nikara and Lindroos.

[br21]

finally, very interesting results... great result by Nikko, Salo had some problems with diff?

[Juha_Koo]

finally, very interesting results... great result by Nikko, Salo had some problems with diff?

Yes, Salo had a broken center diff from SS4 onwards and there was no time in the second service to change it so it was broken until the finish. Nikko had a great rally, although the rally was held in his home region but it was more a mental push and will to win that mattered than knowledge of the route.

Here's a nice onboard from SS6, Salo/Salminen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx45JvkxIvY

[makinen_fan]

Very nice onboard. The manual gearbox and the effort by the driver to change gears adds a lot of value to an onboard video!

[Hartusvuori]

http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Laihia%20SM-ralli%202013/_MG_2567.JPG?img=img900

Here are few words from our trip to FRC Laihia. For me, this was by far the closest of the FRC events, but having a rock festival in the city at the same weekend meant I was a little tired 7AM in Saturday morning when my friend showed up :-) Anyway, we managed to recce two stages SS1 and SS3/6. First stage was very fast and flowing with nothing really distinctive place. On the second run of the stage Joni Nikko's average speed was around 128 km/h so that tells a lot. Nothing much to report there expect Jukka Ketomäki ran past us slowly and took a right turn on a junction left and drove home. His Octavia WRC just doesn't seem to hold it together. For second stage, SS3, we had found a nice place with a sight over two crest of which the second was a small jump, then on a left-hand corner with a lot of loose gravel at first. One Civic went off the line on the jump, ended on the gravel, lost grip and went fast into the ditch hitting over a rock. Crew okey, but some damage to the car. It was heavy stuff to pick up from the ditch with one off-place front tire and one locked front tire, no rope to pull with, etc. For the second run of the stage we watched top drivers at the same place and then walked a little closer to the finish on some nice S-bends. All in all, a nice day as it's always is at rallies.

Results wise, Nikko was surprisingly fast even if this rally was held basically in his backyard. Then again, SS2 which is local club's test stage and which Nikko should know well with or without glasses on, he was 3,7s slower than Nikara on 4,65 km stage. But clearly they were the two fastest drivers of the day. Also local Jukka Hiltunen in Fiesta S2000 was nicely fast. In 2WD Lindroos, Mänty, Pinomäki, Kinnunen, Vainionpää, always nice to watch. Off FRC3 drivers Lindroos was clearly fastest, but he was disqualified because he started SS4 too late because electronic main switch troubled. He drove SS5 and SS6 because the crew were not informed of the DQ at the moment. Fredrik Åhlin however was the fastest small 2WD driver, very close with Lindroos and Kinnunen all the time. Those times however are not fully comparable as for example Lindroos drove first (the first stages) and Åhlin was 41st. But Åhlin is fast, no doubt.

Here are my friend's pictures: Laihia SM-ralli 2013 (http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Laihia+SM-ralli+2013/)

Next rally: 1000 Lakes in two weeks.

[Hartusvuori]

http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/1000%20Lakes%202013/_MG_3850.JPG?img=img900

Last Saturday was national rally held near Jyväskylä called Jyväskylän Suurajot - 1000 Lakes Rally. That name might ring a bell... I think this was now 4th time for event to be held as such, in the midsummer with emphasis on the historic rally cars. This year around 165 cars started and some 40% of them in historic classes. Event had 5 stages near Petäjävesi and Uurainen, and like always with Central Finnish rallies, some of these stages has been used in the WRC event as well. Beautiful fast roads with a lot of going up and down, flowing bends as well as treacherous bends. We did SS1 in whole, some 40 cars in SS3 and most of the cars in SS5.

On SS1 we stayed at a tightening right after a faster section. Young birch trees on the left, about hundred rally fans on the right. That section continued with an S-bend, and a little later on another set of S-bends if you walked around. Very nice, that is. 6-7 cars had close calls there, going wide. First car to roll was a small Fiesta, unfortunate braking that let the rear end loose and the car spun and rolled. That was so early in the corner that I didn't even see it, only heard. A little later we saw a much heavier crash. BMW entered the corner too fast and too wide, soon after exiting the road rear left hit a stone and the car rolled around 3 times into the trees. Crew okey, car not so. 3-4 trees thick as a leg got chopped in a blink. Car was well into the trees, but it took less than 10 minute from spectators to got it back on the road and pulled away. Funny thing - or "funny" - it was my friend's friend that drove that BMW, first proper event, first stage... It's tough how it takes a long time to build a car and then three minutes into the stage, crash, and months work again. This picture (http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/1000+Lakes+2013/_MG_3520.JPG) tells a lot. You can see the crash here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hm6rNB0n5AM#t=343s) - the whole video is very nicely done by the way.

For SS5 (parts of SS Kuohu from old 1000 Lakes) we opted for the first corner of the stage, a tightening left. Only a few slides there, it was quite close to the start of the stage, so not so high speed. But it was nice place to spend the rest of the day anyway.

Here's a crash compilation video from SS2 which had a treacherous left-hander that was the most action-filled place on the rally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhZ2Jxt2EYY

Here's my friend's photos from the event: 1000 Lakes 2013 (http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/1000+Lakes+2013/)

And now I've reached the moment where next rally for me is Rally Finland. There are one national event next weekend and FRC event the weekend after that, but those I will miss other activities.

[Hartusvuori]

Nikara with Mini WRC for the next FRC event in Kouvola too.

Also Fredrik Åhlin makes a return :-)

[COD]

The rally is tomorrow! Results same pages as before!

[Juha_Koo]

So, in Kouvola a very tight fight between Salo and Vihavainen. Both were pushing very hard and the whole time it was matter of seconds. But in the end Vihavainen made a mistake on SS7 and lost 19 secs so the battle was over and Salo won. The route was not similar to previous Kouvola FRCs, as it was faster this year.

Take a look of this onboard from SS4 Salo/Salminen, average speed of 135kph... Sensation of speed on the field sections is not so evident, but wait for the final section of the stage when they "dive" into the forest around 04:45, crazy! :eek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXpLAQBC2zM

Also, SS6 Salo/Salminen: SM O.K autoralli, ss6, Juha Salo, Lancer Evo X R4 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wddKSV02bg8)

This video contains footage from two different difficult right handers, take a look of the corner speeds on the second one, pretty crazy! (Lindroos for example) (also few mistakes and one big crash): O.K. Auto Ralli, Kouvola 13.7.2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yt9DF2fmQw)

[Juha_Koo]

Oh, and I forgot. Two stars of the rally for me were Matias Kauppinen and Vasily Gryazin.

Gryazin showed very good stage times (2x4th, 3x3rd, 1x2nd & 1st), overall he was fourth, +47,3 secs from Salo. In my opinion this is a very good result, especially when he sure lost some time on the superfast sections with S2000.

In SM3 it was a very tight rally. Matias Kauppinen showed some great speed, in the end he was second in the class, +6,3 secs from Lindroos which IMHO is very good. He won Lindroos on five stages. A small shame that Kauppinen will drive NORF with GrN. Subaru and not Citroen, I'm sure he would be really fast on NORF stages among 2WD competitors. For Jaro Kinnunen it was a short rally - 1km from SS1 start a problem with water system resulted in overheat and they had to retire.

[Susiraja]

Vasily Gryazin certainly made an impression among the 4wd cars. Really well driven for a guy of his age.

SM3 class is always the class to watch for. That's where the real battles are nowadays and impossible to say before the rally in which order are the top 5 drivers. Matias Kauppinen drove a brilliant rally. Lindroos has had to push to the limit this year. No matter what he says in the interviews :)

I would like to include one more name to the "stars of the rally". Jari Huttunen drove really close to the SM3 class top drivers' stage times on the two first two stages. Exception being that Huttunen drives an old GSI Kadett and WITHOUT pace notes :eek: Would have been interesting to see his pace for the rest of the rally, but he had crashed on stage number three. Was he then pushing too much? Maybe. Maybe not. Don't know what caused the crash. When finding the limits you sometimes crash.

[sindroms]

Vasily Gryazin certainly made an impression among the 4wd cars. Really well driven for a guy of his age.

Do you believe that four years ago was the first time ever when that guy sat behind the wheel of stock car? Seriously. As I said somewhere in previous posts it's definitely worth to pay attention to him. Next outings - "Rally Estonia" and NORF.

[Co-FIN]

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[Hartusvuori]

FIA Historic ERC event Lahti Historic Rally will start today.

Results should appear here: Online1 valikko (http://www.tenab.net/online.htm)
Itinerary, pages 6-7: http://www.lahtihistoricrally.com/tiedostot/tiedostot%202013/lomakkeet/Kilpailijaohje%20LHR%202013%20nettiversio%20fi.pdf
Entry list: http://www.lahtihistoricrally.com/tiedostot/Lahti%20Historic%20EM%20osallistujat%202013.pdf

[makinen_fan]

There will be live onboard from JML's car here Red Bull Live (http://www.livestream.fi/redbull/)

(From his fb account)

Testing testing!!! Today we are trying something different. Not sure how well it will work, but from 14.00 CET today we will be trying to send a live stream from onboard Jari-Matti's Audi Quattro as he goes through the stages today. Tune in to see what happens - don't know if it will work properly!! Hopefully you'll be sitting in the co-driver's seat for some epic driving this afternoon - let's see - no promises - this is just us testing!!!

Feedback would be appreciated to [email:ikwdt3bp]media@jmlatvala.com[/email:ikwdt3bp]

[dupanton]

It doesn't work... :(

[dupanton]

It has been online for a moment. But god, such a poor quality...

[Hartusvuori]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPBqHiYYfsI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

When historic cars crash heavily, it's always nasty outcome. This here was a Talbot.

[Hartusvuori]

Please remember that second to last round of Finnish championship is going in. It started already yesterday with two stages being run in the darkness. A lot of happenings too, Åhlin crashed, Vihavainen crashed but continues, ... Juha Salo had the shortest rally ever as his car's electrics died when lights went green on start line of SS1. Joni Nikko out with technical issue, same for Jaro Kinnunen. Matias Kauppinen and SM2 leader Jussi Vainionpää retired as well.

Respective overnight leaders are Teemu Asunmaa (by 0,1s), Marko Mänty and Joonas Lindroos.

Results: Tulossivu (http://www.mut-palvelu.fi/smralli/?lk=1&ek=1)
GPS tracking: gpsseuranta.net - SM-ralli Turku, lauantai (http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/20130831smralli2/)

[Susiraja]

Are all the Finns sleeping it off or something? :) Propably most dramatic rally of the season. On the 4wd side Salo retired on Friday, Vihavainen went off the road and Nikko had problems. On Saturday Nikko had a big high speed crash only 1km from the start. After check up the crew luckily relatively OK. Turku winner being Mäenpää before Asunmaa and Tiippana. Who would have guessed. We would have been fourth, but because of co-driver(that's me) mistake with a time card we recieved 1minute time penalty and ended up sixth only 12 seconds from the fourth place. Not 100% sure how I managed to do the time card mistake.... No words to describe how sorry I am for the driver. On the positive side our speed was the best during the whole season. Looking forward to final round in Tampere.
In SM2 class Ruotsalainen won before, Veikkanen and Vainionpää. Vainionpää had a lucky escape when his brake pedal went to the floor on Friday evening.
In SM3 also technical problems, off roading etc. After the final stage Lindroos won, before Haapamäki and Pinomäki.

All the drama in Turku promises that many crews will enter final FRC round in Tampere with maximum attack mode ;)

[Rallyper]

Any videos? Please!

What about Åhlin´s crash. How is car and crew? Was it Fiesta R2?

[Susiraja]

Any videos? Please!

What about Åhlin´s crash. How is car and crew? Was it Fiesta R2?

From youtube some videos can be found with "turku ralli 2013" or something similar searches. Here is Nikko's crash SM Turku Ralli Ek 3 Joni Nikko - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hpB0UJVlHbU)

Åhlin was driving with a Fiesta R2. Enough damage not to continue, but I guess nothing very bad with the car. The crew unhurt as far as I know so that's the main thing.

[Hartusvuori]

My friend's pictures from the event: Turku SM-ralli 2013 (http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Turku+SM-ralli+2013/)

[Co-FIN]

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[Hartusvuori]

Joni Nikko's huge crash from onboard video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpB0UJVlHbU

Picture from outside:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS_DZV2IEAA7SOv.jpg:large


And the morning after... being rebuilt:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTFiwTDCIAASENV.jpg:large

[Hartusvuori]

Finnish F-Cup series continued yesterday after a long hiatus. First gravel event was held in Western Finland at Uusikaupunki. Volvo was the make of the day as team partners Jaska Nuorala and Tero Salminen took a one-two before Kimmo Juhannusvuori in BMW.

Here's a very nice, fast and flowing onboard from the winner Nuorala: Nyt ei nostella - Jaska Nuoralan in-car EK5 // F-Cup 2013 Uusikaupunki - YouTube (http://youtu.be/TQjlFi-Uxxs) Average speed of 114,2 km/h.

Following weekends will keep Finnish rallying fans busy. Next weekend is Historic Rally Trophy event in Heinola, then F-Cup in Urjala, then FRC grande finale in Tampere, then Historic Rally Trophy and rally sprint finale, then F-Cup finale in Naantali. That's the way it should be :-)

[Hartusvuori]

Kari Hämäläinen has entered the last FRC event in Printsport Fiesta R5. I have not heard that Printsport would've bought an R5, is that the case? Would be first in Finland.

[Hartusvuori]

Jarkko Nikara has entered FRC Tampere with Printsport's Fiesta S2000. Altogether 175 entries for the final round with over 50 Volvo guests from Sweden. Very nice.

[txl]

Hi, is there a website with more info about FRC Tampere? As a round of FRC, itinerary should be available in advance, is this correct?

[txl]

About FRC Tampere I was able to find these:
http://mediaguru.fi/tamua/kilpailijat.php
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=2896&edit=0
Fortunately, the itinerary can be found there. Unfortunately, there are no maps, so no idea where the stages are :S Are there any maps available already?

[Susiraja]

About FRC Tampere I was able to find these:
http://mediaguru.fi/tamua/kilpailijat.php
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=2896&edit=0
Fortunately, the itinerary can be found there. Unfortunately, there are no maps, so no idea where the stages are :S Are there any maps available already?

No maps available yet. The recce hasn't started yet so the stages are still a secret.

[txl]

Thanks for the info.

[Hartusvuori]

From Printsport's Facebook, pictures of:

Nikara's Fiesta S2000: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 4963_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/545963_583921491667426_378874963_n.jpg)
Kruuda's Fiesta S2000: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 8626_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545245_583921091667466_1579098626_n.jpg)

[pantealex]

Kruuda is using car owned by Kari Hämäläinen

and

Hämäläinen drives Markko Märtin Motorsport´s Fiesta R5 serviced by Printsport

[rage82]

Unsurprisingly Jarkko Nikara is leading ralliSM after the first stage, Kruuda + 4.6 and Juha Salo + 6.2!
Hope Jarkko has a good rally and gain some good experience with s2000 car.

[br21]

Where I can find some results from Tampere Castrol Rally?

[Co-FIN]

Here

http://www.mut-palvelu.fi/online2011/index.php

or

http://www.mut-palvelu.fi/smralli/?lk=1&ek=1

and

https://twitter.com/RalliSM

Some minute-errors in SS2, but i think they will be fixes tonight. Nikara leading after friday, Salo second and Kruuda third i think.. Mänty leading SM2 and Kinnunen SM3.

Suprisingly fastest 2wd was Jaska Nuorala with Volvo 240 :) Hes driving in extra class SC4

[rage82]

Here

http://www.mut-palvelu.fi/online2011/index.php

or

http://www.mut-palvelu.fi/smralli/?lk=1&ek=1

and

https://twitter.com/RalliSM

Some minute-errors in SS2, but i think they will be fixes tonight. Nikara leading after friday, Salo second and Kruuda third i think.. Mänty leading SM2 and Kinnunen SM3.
I was just going to ask what has happened with Jarkko and Salo on the 2-nd pass of Savo. Thanks for the clarification that kind of time loss was very strange! Let's see what's will tomorrow
Suprisingly fastest 2wd was Jaska Nuorala with Volvo 240 :) Hes driving in extra class SC4

[eestlane]

Kruuda is 2. actually. 9 secs behind Nikara.

[Tom206wrc]

Kinnunen in the lead of R2 after SS2 :bounce:

[rage82]

From Hartusvuori twitter - onboard Jarkko Nikara on Savo 1 - http://printsport.smugmug.com/Rally2013 ... &k=5MPDD5M (http://printsport.smugmug.com/Rally2013/Tampere-SM-2013/Jarkko-Nikara-Incar-Tampere-SM/32151888_rxPfGC#!i=2794363785&k=5MPDD5M)

[Juha_Koo]

A really nice event in Tampere, the organizers had done a fantastic job with the event. :) Perhaps the most well-organized FRC event I've been to...

Quite expected results: Nikara winning, Kruuda second (maybe even surprisingly good speed imho...) and after a tight fight Vihavainen third. Salo took it quite easy in the end, calculated drive to win the championship.

My little video --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvYeu54cnLs

[NikoP]

Classic stages, great rally.

Some photos: http://nikop.kuvat.fi/kuvat/2013/SM+Castrol-ralli/

http://nikop.kuvat.fi/kuvat/2013/SM%20Castrol-ralli/_MG_4616%20copy.jpg?img=smaller

http://nikop.kuvat.fi/kuvat/2013/SM%20Castrol-ralli/IMG_1553%20copy.jpg?img=smaller

http://nikop.kuvat.fi/kuvat/2013/SM%20Castrol-ralli/IMG_0685%20copy.jpg?img=smaller

[pantealex]

Juha Salo´s EvoX R4 is on sale in "nettiauto.com", price 95 000 € with spare parts

News is that he is talking with Tommi Mäkinen about next year
-he is part of Hannu´s Rally Team and Hannu Lehessaari has bought many Subaru´s from Tommi (4 bodies this year and several before)

[liposh]

I like those additional lights on Fiesta R5...hope for seeing something like that also on other R5 cars, especially Skoda Fabia.

[Juha_Koo]

Have a look at some nice onboards from Tampere, 208 R2, Jaro Kinnunen/Mikael Korhonen: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_rTpO_ ... MXw/videos (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_rTpO_BJ6HTZZqSCEuPMXw/videos)

[vino_93]

News is that he is talking with Tommi Mäkinen about next year
-he is part of Hannu´s Rally Team and Hannu Lehessaari has bought many Subaru´s from Tommi (4 bodies this year and several before)
Subaru 4D R4 ?

And what about Chinese project for Mäkinen ?

[vino_93]

I'm looking for official final classification of SM Castrol-Ralli.
Here https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/ ... 896&edit=0 (https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=2896&edit=0) , there is a problem with some Volvo ... and there is nothing on championship website :(

[Susiraja]

I'm looking for official final classification of SM Castrol-Ralli.
Here https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/ ... 896&edit=0 (https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=2896&edit=0) , there is a problem with some Volvo ... and there is nothing on championship website :(

Here are the final results. Seems that rallism.fi hasn't bothered to update then English side of the pages with the results.
http://www.rallism.fi/attachements/2013 ... -52453.pdf (http://www.rallism.fi/attachements/2013-10-12T13-21-52453.pdf)

[vino_93]

thank !

[Rallyper]

How about Arctic Rally in Rovaniemi as for spectators never been there before?

I´m thinking of flying up to next years event. Is it worth all efforts that would be? How about rental cars? Hotels?

Anyone? Teemu?

[janvanvurpa]

How about Arctic Rally in Rovaniemi as for spectators never been there before?

I´m thinking of flying up to next years event. Is it worth all efforts that would be? How about rental cars? Hotels?

Anyone? Teemu?

Dress warm! Don't worry about all those details silly dreng, just fly in and ask any of the thousands of 'kaunis' :kiss: all over the place if she has a place you can stay warm, :rolleyes: then do your best as you should be able, she'll love you in the morning and she'll drive you around to the stages. :D
Then be a gentleman and thank her in the same way you did that first night, and promise you will never forget that night, she'll drop you off and fly home.
Adventure, man, where's your spirit of adventure?

Rememeber: What happens in Rovaniemi stays in Rovaniemi! :D

[Rallyper]

How about Arctic Rally in Rovaniemi as for spectators never been there before?

I´m thinking of flying up to next years event. Is it worth all efforts that would be? How about rental cars? Hotels?

Anyone? Teemu?

Dress warm! Don't worry about all those details silly dreng, just fly in and ask any of the thousands of 'kaunis' :kiss: all over the place if she has a place you can stay warm, :rolleyes: then do your best as you should be able, she'll love you in the morning and she'll drive you around to the stages. :D
Then be a gentleman and thank her in the same way you did that first night, and promise you will never forget that night, she'll drop you off and fly home.
Adventure, man, where's your spirit of adventure?

Rememeber: What happens in Rovaniemi stays in Rovaniemi! :D

There´s a small problem. My wife is coming as well..

And the BIG problem is what she can do during the days when I´m following the stages? Don´t give same advice as for me... :dozey:

[janvanvurpa]

Well it's good that she's a smal problem, härborta i Fästning Amerika too often have this problem:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f199/VWBug_girl/fat.jpg

That's a BIG problem..... :eek:
If she's coming I really don't have any of my normally brilliant solutions. :confused:
Sorry!

[Rallyper]

Well it's good that she's a smal problem, härborta i Fästning Amerika too often have this problem:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f199/VWBug_girl/fat.jpg

That's a BIG problem..... :eek:
If she's coming I really don't have any of my normally brilliant solutions. :confused:
Sorry!

He he, John without answer... :laugh:

[janvanvurpa]

When we are working on the rally cars or watching F-cup videos as a form of worship we get talking about things and I am a lot older than most of the guys and I have done a LOT more stupid things so I joke "Don't worry, we have the answer to your problem, I am the man with a million brilliant answers...Now they may not be the answer to just your problem, but that's OK--- they're still brilliant answers!"..

[Rallyper]

When we are working on the rally cars or watching F-cup videos as a form of worship we get talking about things and I am a lot older than most of the guys and I have done a LOT more stupid things so I joke "Don't worry, we have the answer to your problem, I am the man with a million brilliant answers...Now they may not be the answer to just your problem, but that's OK--- they're still brilliant answers!"..

I believe you man. Självklart! :)

[Fly]

Does it say Vuorisalo will compete Finnish Championaship in Fiesta R5?

http://www.rallism.fi/39328.html

[pantealex]

Does it say Vuorisalo will compete Finnish Championaship in Fiesta R5?

http://www.rallism.fi/39328.html

NO, just testing it in England. Prize for winning Fiesta cup in Finland

[HarriK]

First R5 Fiesta arrived to Finland. https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 7094_o.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1487967_630150170377891_884577094_o.jpg)
Car located to Printsport Racing garage. No idea who's gonna drive that one, but cool to have one brand new R5 in Finland.
Hopefully it's on starting line in Arctic Rally Rovaniemi.

[janvanvurpa]

First R5 Fiesta arrived to Finland. https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 7094_o.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1487967_630150170377891_884577094_o.jpg)
Car located to Printsport Racing garage. No idea who's gonna drive that one, but cool to have one brand new R5 in Finland.
Hopefully it's on starting line in Arctic Rally Rovaniemi.

Sure are pretty when they're all clean and white...I don't know what my problem is but I see that in gravel height with gravel tires and I think. "Ah, looks good. Looks ready for action". (but when i see them set for tarmac I think "Oi Oi OPI! So low, my feeet! So many rocks out there! Damn! what are they thinking? I'll be digging trenches every mile!")

[Rallyper]

First R5 Fiesta arrived to Finland. https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 7094_o.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1487967_630150170377891_884577094_o.jpg)
Car located to Printsport Racing garage. No idea who's gonna drive that one, but cool to have one brand new R5 in Finland.
Hopefully it's on starting line in Arctic Rally Rovaniemi.

Riku Tahko maybe?

[pantealex]

Only one (so far) who has entered RalliSM with Fiesta R5 is Jouni Virtanen and he is very slow!

[pantealex]

Here is all entries for RalliSM so far from KITI

1 R5,RRC,S2000,FIN-R,WRC-2001
1 Kari Hämäläinen Printsport Ford Fiesta S2000
1 Mattias Therman RoiUA Printsport Ford Fiesta S2000
1Niko Veikkanen HyUA Subaru Impreza WRX
1 Ari Vihavainen HeiUA Hannu's Rally Team Mitsubishi Lancer WRC
1 Jouni Virtanen KSAU Printsport Ford Fiesta R5

2 R4,N,FIN-N
2 Teemu Asunmaa AlavUA Hannu's Rally Team Subaru Impreza R4
2 Kees Burger RiiUA Jan Dohmen Rally Team Subaru Impreza WRX Sti R4
2 Evgeny Cherkasov RiiUA Suzor Rally Team Subaru Impreza WRX Sti (E), GDB
2 Reijo Heikkilä NaSU Mitsubishi Lancer E9
2 Juha Salo Hannu's Rally Team Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X R4

3 R2,R1

4 R3,n,FIN-r
4 Ville Hautamäki JärvisUA Printsport Honda Civic Type R
4 Joonas Keränen LahUA Honda Civic Type R (EP3)
4 Kimmo Linden TapUA Honda Civic Type R
4 Jarkko Savolainen Honda Civic R3
4 Tomi Vilenius PoSUA Renault Clio Sport (CR1N)

[HarriK]

More from Printsport Racing:
Kruuda enters with S2000 Fiesta to Finnish Rally Championship 2014.

http://www.printsport.fi/news.php

[Juha_Koo]

Janne Tuohino will drive Printsport's Fiesta R5 in Arctic Lapland Rally.

[pantealex]

They are expecting 2 more "BIG" names for Arctic!
(I don´t know nothing more)

[Japé]

At this point does not look too good: SM (Finnish Rally Championship) 24 participants. F-Cup only 139 participants. I'm sure the economic situation has given negative effects to Finnish motorsport serieses already couple of years.

[Hartusvuori]

At this point does not look too good: SM (Finnish Rally Championship) 24 participants. F-Cup only 139 participants. I'm sure the economic situation has given negative effects to Finnish motorsport serieses already couple of years.

In 2014 you're eligible for FRC points even if not registered for series, so that could show. Though registering meets lower entry fees. Can't remember how it is in F-cup.

[pantealex]

At this point does not look too good: SM (Finnish Rally Championship) 24 participants. F-Cup only 139 participants. I'm sure the economic situation has given negative effects to Finnish motorsport serieses already couple of years.

Wait 1 week and you will see the truth...

[Tom206wrc]

They are expecting 2 more "BIG" names for Arctic!
(I don´t know nothing more)


Mads Östberg among them :confused:

[pantealex]

For championship:
Jari Latvala Lancer WRC
Riku Tahko MINI S2000

total 48 entries at the moment.

[Hartusvuori]

Hah, Craig Breen has entered F-cup series. That's surprising :-)

[Hartusvuori]

Breen will drive in the first F-Cup event Riihimäki-ralli Jan 18th with Peugeot 306.

[Juha_Koo]

Small onboard from Juha Salo testing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gbx7NrhGSE

[HarriK]

more testing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVOmHKRY0Ow

Red Subaru driver first 4wd test.

[Co-FIN]

..

[HarriK]

Arctic Rally entry closes today. So far 967 entries.
Look here (press "Osallistujat")
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/ ... 359&edit=0 (https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=3359&edit=0)

[wwbroe]

Janne Tuohino withy Fiesta R5 on entrylist, nice ;)

[Hartusvuori]

Arctic Rally entry closes today. So far 967 entries.
Look here (press "Osallistujat")
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/ ... 359&edit=0 (https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=3359&edit=0)

967...? Not quite there yet. But over 100 anyway, that's nice too.

[pantealex]

119 entries for ARCTIC

[pantealex]

119 entries for ARCTIC

122 says RalliSM

Nikara with evo ix entered by Printsport

[efe-e]

Riku Tahko is competing on Finnish Rally Championship's 2014 season with Toksport's MINI JCW S2000.

He made a press conference today to announce his programme for 2014 season.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1536494_699925876695506_714836696_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/toksportturkey
http://www.toksport.com

[Juha_Koo]

Besides the Arctic entry, Riku Tahko will compete the entire Finnish Championship with Mini JCW RRC, codriven by Markus Soininen. Project is supported by the Finnish Mini importer. Running & technical assistance by Toksport, Prodrive and ST-Motors. It's a part of two-year plan, final focus is in international rallies.

[tolis]

Besides the Arctic entry, Riku Tahko will compete the entire Finnish Championship with Mini JCW RRC, codriven by Markus Soininen. Project is supported by the Finnish Mini importer. Running & technical assistance by Toksport, Prodrive and ST-Motors. It's a part of two-year plan, final focus is in international rallies.
Only FRC for him this year? I think that he wanted to do some ERC rallies.

[PLuto]

Besides the Arctic entry, Riku Tahko will compete the entire Finnish Championship with Mini JCW RRC, codriven by Markus Soininen. Project is supported by the Finnish Mini importer. Running & technical assistance by Toksport, Prodrive and ST-Motors. It's a part of two-year plan, final focus is in international rallies.
Only FRC for him this year? I think that he wanted to do some ERC rallies.

He wanted, but not enough money...

[HarriK]

125 entries

[Susiraja]

Interesting to see the battle between Kruuda and Nikara. Atleast that's my guess on who are going to fight for the victory. Anyhow a great entry list for the Arctic! Lots of nice cars and good drivers in different classes.

[pantealex]

Interesting to see the battle between Kruuda and Nikara. Atleast that's my guess on who are going to fight for the victory. Anyhow a great entry list for the Arctic! Lots of nice cars and good drivers in different classes.

class1 Tuohino with R5, how far behind Kruuda (or Nikara) he is? Vihavainen with Mitsu WRC, Top5 material.
class2 it´s probably Salo and then Nikko and rest.
class3: Lindroos has always been very good in Arctic but how fast are youngsters?
class4: Hautamäki is speedwise man to beat.
My 5 cents!

[Rallyper]

Haven´t followed SM so close, but how is speed for Max Vatanen?

[pantealex]

Haven´t followed SM so close, but how is speed for Max Vatanen?

6-8 in his class (R2), so middle of the field

[HarriK]

Tomorrow F-cup shakedown by Breen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHm37NfaiXU

[Micke_VOC]

Results from Rihimäki http://www.mut-palvelu.fi/online2011/

[Tom206wrc]

Why no Jaro Kinnunen in Arctic Lapland Rally :confused:

[Kalm]

Kruuda testing for Arctic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCpKtfBSCc4

[HarriK]

More Printsport test videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu6dxPNGtLA

[efe-e]

Pre-event Test Photos of Riku Tahko & Toksport

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 575&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.704671169554310.1073741843.279095228778575&type=1)

[RICARDO75]

Onboard videos from shakedown at Arctic Lapland Rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg1BQOxpjuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEBM_PwTOh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PJ16tyii4c

[br21]

where to look for results from Arctic?

[Kalm]

Results for Arctic : http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/?refresh

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

LIVE GPS tracking

http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/6R14_1/

[Micke_VOC]

LIVE GPS tracking

http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/6R14_1/

Seems to work very good ! =)

[COD]

Salo in his own league, even with R4. Tuohino and Nikara fighting for 2nd (after SS3).
The speed of Tahko very disapointing, Kruuda in trouble, lost a lot of time

[Rallyper]

Not knowing for sure, but Tahko hasn´t had many rallies recently? Of course salo is the one we also would see in ERC or even better: WRC!!

[Kalm]

broken rear diff for Kruuda, end of the rally for today....

[COD]

Not knowing for sure, but Tahko hasn´t had many rallies recently? !

More than Tuohino, who has not rallied in a few years!

[Rallyper]

Not knowing for sure, but Tahko hasn´t had many rallies recently? !

More than Tuohino, who has not rallied in a few years!

For sure. Touhino always fast. But I thought he´d be even faster...? Let´s wait and see after a couple of more stages. :)

[COD]

Not knowing for sure, but Tahko hasn´t had many rallies recently? !

More than Tuohino, who has not rallied in a few years!

For sure. Touhino always fast. But I thought he´d be even faster...? Let´s wait and see after a couple of more stages. :)

Well, he is getting old now and like I said has not donw rallies in years. So he is doing better than I expected

[andre93]

Information about Koskelo's Fabia S2000??chassis,registration plate,old owner??thank'you very much.

[Juha_Koo]

Salo completely in his own league today. His Mitsu is now back in international R4-spec (last year it was national R4, with bigger restrictor, etc), but due the new rules which allow the use of racing fuel he's having a really good feeling with the engine.

Positive surprise in the SM3 class (=R2), newcomer Joonas Tokee showed some good speed with P208 R2 before problems on SS3. After day one Vuorisalo (last year's R2 silver medalist) is leading the SM3 class and Henri Haapamäki showing good speed, being second with C2 R2 and very experienced (Arctic) codriver Lasse Hirvijärvi.

[Juha_Koo]

Rally over for Salo, retired due to overheating issues...

[Juha_Koo]

First win in Finland for R5, Janne & Markku Tuohino win Arctic Lapland Rally 2014!

Final stage finish:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Be1DrnqIYAAqhtO.jpg:large

[vino_93]

What's the difference between SM1 and SM2 Lancers ?

[Juha_Koo]

What's the difference between SM1 and SM2 Lancers ?

SM1 is called "Super4" and it includes: FIA R5, Super 2000 (2.0 and 1.6T), FIN R 4WD (including WRC cars that have been homologated 31.12.2002 or earlier).

SM2 on the other hand is called "Production4" and it includes FIA N, FIA R4 and FIN N 4WD cars.

Therefore SM2 Lancers are "regular" Gr. N cars and in SM1 Lancer's are FIN R type (more freedom in the rules) cars (bigger restrictor, etc.).

[vino_93]

thank you !

[Jeppe]

Information about Koskelo's Fabia S2000??chassis,registration plate,old owner??thank'you very much.

Andre, you got PM about this.

[andre93]

Andre, you got PM about this.[/quote]
Thank'you very much!!

[Tom206wrc]

...
Positive surprise in the SM3 class (=R2), newcomer Joonas Tokee showed some good speed with P208 R2 before problems on SS3. After day one Vuorisalo (last year's R2 silver medalist) is leading the SM3 class and Henri Haapamäki showing good speed, being second with C2 R2 and very experienced (Arctic) codriver Lasse Hirvijärvi.


What were Joonas Tokee's problems on SS3 ?? Off, puncture, mechanical :confused:

[pantealex]

...
Positive surprise in the SM3 class (=R2), newcomer Joonas Tokee showed some good speed with P208 R2 before problems on SS3. After day one Vuorisalo (last year's R2 silver medalist) is leading the SM3 class and Henri Haapamäki showing good speed, being second with C2 R2 and very experienced (Arctic) codriver Lasse Hirvijärvi.


What were Joonas Tokee's problems on SS3 ?? Off, puncture, mechanical :confused:

first he got stuck in traffic jam (road was blocket, one car sideways middle of road) and after that he could´t see nothing and drove out, off the road.

in 1 word OFF

[Andre Oliveira]

Need your help: 2000 jyväskylän mm-ralli results please?

If you have others years, i will aprecciate:) Only have top10 of 1999 f.e.

[Andre Oliveira]

Need your help: 2000 jyväskylän mm-ralli results please?

If you have others years, i will aprecciate:) Only have top10 of 1999 f.e.

Or 2001, it was an event done by Ignacio Sanfilipo to prepare WRC round, and won by Swedish or Finnish driver on Corolla WRC

[pantealex]

[quote="Andre Oliveira":1xxotobv]Need your help: 2000 jyväskylän mm-ralli results please?

If you have others years, i will aprecciate:) Only have top10 of 1999 f.e.

Or 2001, it was an event done by Ignacio Sanfilipo to prepare WRC round, and won by Swedish or Finnish driver on Corolla WRC[/quote:1xxotobv]

MM = maailman mestaruus = world championship

MM-ralli = WRC-rally = NORF, so thats not what you are looking!

[Andre Oliveira]

Some other little event held on August.

[Tinke1979]

Some other little event held on August.

Maybe you mean Mänttä 200 rally? On those days it was usually held few weeks before NORF and a lot of factory drivers used it as an test rally for NORF...

[Andre Oliveira]

Maybe

[pantealex]

http://www.tenab.net/entiset.htm

that maybe helps you, but it starts from 2000

entrylist = osanottajat
august = elokuu

[Andre Oliveira]

Thanks:) Soon i have to "study" finnish rallies. Hope one day have finnish member on our database :)

[Rallyper]

Any reports from F-Cup yesterday?

[Hartusvuori]

Any reports from F-Cup yesterday?

Well, I was there. Very straightforward event with hardly any crashes or other interuptions. It was nicely organised, mostly fast and flowing stages. Weather was kind of heavy, close to zero and especially during the first loop of stages which was run in daylight it snowed quite heavily at times.

Mercedes-driver Jere Rekola lead the event from start to finish. He used the advance he had from a higher starting number, he had more grip. Astra-driver Juha Rytkönen, also with higher number, finished second and reigning F-Cup champion Jaska Nuorala in his fast Volvo 240 bettered his pace throughout the event and finished third. Most notable retirement was Volvo-driver Tero Salminen.

After two events Nuorala now leads the series, Joonas Kolehmainen (who won the first event) is 1 point behind. Runner-ups Rekola, Rytkönen, Nevä, Ruoppa and Salminen are more than 10 points behind.

Next and last winter F-Cup event is Valkeala at March 1st.

[Rallyper]

Thanks Teemu!

[tolis]

Any more rallies for Janne Tuohino?

[RICARDO75]

Any more rallies for Janne Tuohino?

I also don't know but, for sure, he will miss the next rally
http://files.kotisivukone.com/vaakunaralli.kotisivukone.com/sm_vaakuna-ralli_2014_lahtoluettelo.pdf

[pantealex]

Any more rallies for Janne Tuohino?

That R5 has still his colors on it, but as said he will not drive in Mikkeli (next event)
There is 1 more winter event, Joensuu in march.

[Juha_Koo]

Unbelievable news from FRC.

Saloracing Finland has filed in a criminal complaint concerning Juha Salo's retirement in Arctic Rally. The team believes that the car has been sabotaged during the night break in Parc Ferme by someone deliberately loosening one of the radiator hoses. They cite several Mitsu professionals who have said that they don't know a single case where this particular hose would have came unconnected by itself.

The real issue concerns the parking company which runs the parking hall. After the first contact, they promised to investigate security camera tapes. After that, they have not answered to Saloracing in any form. Also, as another competitor's service group had taken their crew's car to Parc Ferme around 3:30 in the night after a retirement on Day 1, they had seen a dark car leaving the parking hall. In the criminal complaint, Saloracing wants the police to investigate whether the parking hall company has deceived the rally organizers on the matter of providing physical guarding to Parc Ferme (as required by the rules).

The original press release in Finnish: http://saloracing.com/?p=1833

[tolis]

Any more rallies for Janne Tuohino?

I also don't know but, for sure, he will miss the next rally
http://files.kotisivukone.com/vaakunaralli.kotisivukone.com/sm_vaakuna-ralli_2014_lahtoluettelo.pdf
Are these the final numbers?

[COD]

My prediction:

1. Salo
2.Nikara
3. Kruud
4.Vihavainen

[Jeppe]

http://files.kotisivukone.com/vaakunaralli.kotisivukone.com/sm_vaakuna-ralli_2014_lahtoluettelo.pdf

Are these the final numbers?

Yes they are. It is also starting order to rally. It is made by turning the Championship standing list upside down in class 1 and keep it how it is in class 2.. There is also some exceptions in this: Juha Salo starting 1st in class 2 even though he didn´t get any points from the season opener Arctic Rally.

[Tinke1979]

Lots of crashes on same place on Vaakuna rally SS1, including Jarkko Nikara.. Some junction right it was, I dont know more..

[Juha_Koo]

Lots of crashes on same place on Vaakuna rally SS1, including Jarkko Nikara.. Some junction right it was, I dont know more..

Nikara's off was caused/contributed by problems with extralights.

After SS1 in the dark Joni Nikko leads by 0,9 secs before Vihavainen. Juha Salo third +2,8 to Nikko. SM3 (R2) class leader is Henri Haapamäki (showed good speed in Arctic too) with C2. Second Lindroos +0,7 and third Vuorisalo +8,2.

Tomorrow there are six stages, and some rain (yes, water, not snow) is expected. Needing an umbrella in a winter rally? Quite an experience... :D Snow situation is minimal, however roads seem to have pretty good ice-coating.

Video showing Nikko and Haapamäki on SS1: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=626624320720551

[Juha_Koo]

Okay, FRC Mikkeli is driven! Juha Salo had a really good drive and won both overall and SM2-classifications. Second was Joni Nikko, he had very good speed throughout the rally, finally after some moments the gap was 15,2 secs. Third overall, and winning SM1 class, was Ari Vihavainen. Biggest surprise in SM1 was Veli-Pekka Karttunen, who showed incredible speed with old Subaru - I'm sure we will hear from him, as in Finland it's very rare that someone is so fast in 4WD so quickly.

In FWD classes SM3 (=R2 cars) and SM4 (=bigger fwd) winners were Joonas Lindroos (SM3) and Jarkko Savolainen (SM4). Lindroos had a good battle with Henri Haapamäki, he has found big speed from somewhere and challenged Lindroos very well. Also one driver to note: a newcomer to FRC, Teemu Suninen, had suberb speed in the rally and ended third in SM3 with Fiesta R2. He is a member of AKK's Driver Academy coaching programme.

A small video from Day 2, including a small off by Vainionpää: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=626973540685629

[Juha_Koo]

Some issues in after rally scrutineering, rumours of Salo getting excluded (100g underweight side foam panels)...

Also to note, next F-Cup rally is cancelled because of the weather conditions.

[janvanvurpa]

Some issues in after rally scrutineering, rumours of Salo getting excluded (100g underweight side foam panels)...

Also to note, next F-Cup rally is cancelled because of the weather conditions.

I hope that that isn't true about 100g..I could imagine official Saksalaiset tai Ruotsalaiset being that nuts, but I expect better from you guys...

And weather? is the spring thaw already making roads too soft?

Poor F-cup guys---they need to pound on their cars! Re-scheduled?

[Mirek]

Everytime a weight of particular part is homologated there is a tolerance window as well. I'm pretty sure it's more than +- 100 grams for the safety foam panels. Probably it is meant it was 100 grams bellow the lower tolerance limit. In that case to disqualify the crew is indeed harsh but a common solution. Sadly only big factory teams come out of this with fine or some meaningless time penalty.

[br21]

Any more news after last rally?
Salo really excluded?
Also some more news after Arctic/Salo/parc ferme incident?

[donlorean]

Any more news after last rally?
Salo really excluded?
Also some more news after Arctic/Salo/parc ferme incident?

Not yet...

Salo's car was sealed after rally by organisation and they still inspect what is happened...

Total 144 entries for last FRC rally in this winter...

[garais22]

Entries for SM Itäralli 2014??

[Subbe]

Entries for SM Itäralli 2014??
https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=3366&edit=0 Osallistujat tab

Few pics from Mikkeli http://www.mkpictures.com/2014/SMvaakunaRalli2014.html

[Kalm]

really looking foward what Sander Siniorg can do, he`s been fast in Estonia :)

[Susiraja]

Any more news after last rally?
Salo really excluded?
Also some more news after Arctic/Salo/parc ferme incident?

Salo has no been excluded, but he will make an appeal. The appeal has to be processed during 30 days after it has been made. I would assume it will be processed very swiftly since the next FRC round is on the 8th of March and the series organizer for sure doesn't want to go there in a situation where the championship points in SM2 -class are wide open. Well the Arctic Rally parc ferme incident is still open, but for sure everyone will want to close this Mikkeli case.

[Jeppe]

really looking foward what Sander Siniorg can do, he`s been fast in Estonia :)

Me too! He has been pretty fast in the Estonian rallies. Although Joensuu area roads could be describe as a ´rollercoaster´ so it remain to be seen how the young Estonian will adopt those...

[efe-e]

http://imgur.com/O1gWsbj

what about this issue? Exclusion of Juho's?

[RICARDO75]

Results online

http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/?refresh

[Juha_Koo]

I'm right now on my way to Joensuu, it is raining and +2... Conditions will be really difficult tomorrow. Like the series promoter joked, it's not the end of winter season but the start of summer season. :D :D

[Rallyper]

Please, make some comments here as well. Twitter, except for Teemu (Rallirinki), has only comments from drivers in finnish.
And vid-clips...? Anyone?

[tolis]

@Finnish members.
What's the retirement reason of No72, Berezkin?
http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/16R14/retirements.htm

[Jeppe]

Työeste = too much business / job ;)

[Fly]

How good is Velli-Pekka Karttunen? Can't find his age but looks young... One to keep an eye on?

[tolis]

http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=3 ... -Karttunen (http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=31265&t=Veli-Pekka-Karttunen)

[Fly]

Thanks. Interesting profile. Pretty fast for his age in a 4wd at national level.

[Juha_Koo]

Juha Salo entered by Hannu's Rally Team to a small rally called ABC Ralli with Fiesta R5. Let's see is it just some playing with the entry.

[COD]

Juha Salo entered by Hannu's Rally Team to a small rally called ABC Ralli with Fiesta R5. Let's see is it just some playing with the entry.

It should be serious. Plans to enter NORF in the same car as well

[Rallyper]

It would be nice watching him in NORF in R5!!
How about videos or pics from last weekend?

[Juha_Koo]

Riku Tahko will not continue in FRC. Problems with car supplier and no substitute available.

[br21]

Results from Lapua?

[OldF]

You can find the results here
http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/22R14/.a/6/

You can also follow happenings of the rally on twitter @HartusvuoriWRC or https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC

[br21]

Thanx for the link!
Looks like Nikara pushed a little bit to much on the last stage, but he had chances to win. Ahy Salo so low in classification?

Short question:
- what cars are allowed in SM1 and SM2 classes? Those have to be homologated or ex-homologated cars or can be "proto" type car? With let's say wrc style body and gp internals, etc?

[OldF]

Copied my post from the ”Rally - The Motorsport That Comes To You” thread.


Here in Finland the ASN try to keep the 4WD N-group cars competitive against S2000 and R5 cars by some freedom in the regulations for group N cars. I think that at least in smaller population countries there’s usually only few drivers that can afford the best machinery and if one or two of those driver is superior in the skills, the fight for the championship between those two, in the worst case only one.

In fact the biggest class this year is the SM1 class with upgraded N4 cars.

A short description of FIN R4WD, FIN N4WD and FIN R2WD regulations.
http://www.rallism.fi/en/info/

SM1: Super4 (FIA R5, Super 2000 Rally (2.0 and 1.6T), FIN R 4WD (incl. also WRC cars homologated before 31.12.2002)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/super4/

SM2: Tuotanto4 (FIA N4, FIA R4 and FIN N4WD)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/tuotanto4/

SM3: R2 (FIA R1 & FIA R2)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/r2/

SM4: Super2 (FIA R3, FIA N3, FIN R2WD, S1600, Diesel group N & A)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/sm4/

Hope this answers your questions.

[Hartusvuori]

Juha Salo's EvoX is sold and that made him back off a little, he said. He will compete last two FRC rallies in EvoIX.

[br21]

thanx guys for the info!

[Co-FIN]

..

[Juha_Koo]

Great onboard from Lapua, Salo/Salminen SS5. Roads in the Lapua region are very fast but quite flat (in sense of height differences) and also perhaps the most junctions in FRC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnWFdPnRhWQ

[dimviii]

nice onboard! thanks!

[Hartusvuori]

Great onboard from Lapua, Salo/Salminen SS5. Roads in the Lapua region are very fast but quite flat (in sense of height differences) and also perhaps the most junctions in FRC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnWFdPnRhWQ

SS1/5 Länsikylä was especially typical to the region, but it had variety too. There was one straight 1,5 km but also a 1,5 km section without any straight. And a lot of junctions. SS2/6 Hööpakka was very fast, but techical road, classic Finnish stage, though it needs a little more elevations. SS3 had several different styles too, even a couple of kms of asphalt slalom. SS4 was very fast, not that exciting, but still spectacular.

Here's another onboard from SS5, Timo Kuivinen. He's fast local driver, not a junior anymore (he was junior champ in mid 80s :-) It all goes wrong after 8'00". This is the outcome: https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/477854698037600256

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA68cW8SpqM

[Juha_Koo]

Winner of the AKK's "promising rally star" programme has been chosen and it's Teemu Suninen. Despite being new to rally (previously karting and rallycross), Suninen has immediatly been on top form in the tough SM3 (R2-cars) class. The winner was decided based on the results of four first FRC events and physical+mental tests in Vierumäki sports academy, note-test with Mikko Markkula, and some language/media skills test etc.

Now Suninen gets a drive in NORF funded by AKK. It will be Printsport-run DS3 R3T, test day included.

Good to see that AKK is taking the steps forward in talent searching and coaching, something which e.g. FFSA has been doing for years.

[vino_93]

great by AKK !
It worked really well in France (even if it seems it was a bit different), I hope the same for you. Your biggest difficulty will be to find a manufacturer support. In france it's quite easy with Peugeot, Citroën, and Renault, but in Finland there's no manufacturer trophy :/

[pantealex]

Juha Salo has ordered R5 and paid some of it.
Team will build it them self, aim is to start with it in Arctic Lapland Rally, Rovaniemi end of january

What car ? They didn´t tell yet

[br21]

In theory Fiesta you can only buy assembled, so looks like it will be french car...

[COD]

I would assume it is a 208 or DS, Salo has connections to the importer of both. My bet is on the DS3

[giù tutto!]

It's always nice when a young talented driver get his chance to show his skills.

[Hartusvuori]

It's always nice when a young talented driver get his chance to show his skills.

Juha Salo is 38 years old.

[giù tutto!]

;)

[janvanvurpa]

Juha Salo is 38 years old.


Well? That's young. To some of us.

[Rallyper]

I know Twitter is good. But some comments or videos from Rally Turku here as well please.

[Hartusvuori]

Interestingly the three fastest crews in Turku all finished within 0,9 seconds of each other and the two fastest crews Kruuda and Salo had an equal time. Rare occasion! Ari Vihavainen was third. Then again - there is no overall competition. Kruuda won and Salo both won their classes. Teemu Suninen had his maiden victory in R2 class. Ville Hautamäki in bigger 2WDs secured his first ever Finnish champion title after a long line of seconds and thirds. Well deserved!

Also, there is now a DS3 R5 in Finland at the moment. Smailov - Giraudet has been testing it the past weekend, but let's see where it'll end up...

[tolis]

They were even on entry list of Ralli Turku, but didn't start.

[samWRC]

It isn't DS3 R5 because Smailov were in class 7 (WRC/RRC class) in the entry list of Turku so it is more likely DS3 RRC.

[pantealex]

it was DS3 RRC from PH-Sport.

class rule in FC Tampere (Pirelli ralli) is bit wierd:

SM1 (class 1) contains R5 and S2000 (RRC is S2000 1.6T) (Arctic Rally: Tuohino Fiesta R5 and Tahko with Mini S2000 1.6T)

class 7: WRC, RRC, R5

[Juha_Koo]

Massive crash from Finnish rallysprint championship...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UJxPrL0DM

[samWRC]

it was DS3 RRC from PH-Sport.

class rule in FC Tampere (Pirelli ralli) is bit wierd:

SM1 (class 1) contains R5 and S2000 (RRC is S2000 1.6T) (Arctic Rally: Tuohino Fiesta R5 and Tahko with Mini S2000 1.6T)

class 7: WRC, RRC, R5

Gregory Berezkin has entered to Pirelli Ralli with Fiesta R5 and he is in class 7.

[janvanvurpa]

Massive crash from Finnish rallysprint championship...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UJxPrL0DM


Yep, saw that on our little American forum... a freind--who has worked in rally or race teams for years mentioned that the cage looked like a late 90s specification cage, and I commented that I agreed, and added "it sure seemed to work for this guy--just like we've seen on 1000 other violent rolls from Finland"


And rthen it descending into shit-talk because I dared suggest the our US corporations which sanction rally require basically what is full current spec WRC car cage for every single car, all new builds...

Are you familiar with Finnish rules on cages? I can't read enough Finnish to even find the cage rules---Only one offical language and nothing in your other official language--which I speak---so I guess I'm being oppressed!

Can you point me to rules sections on cages?

[OldF]

Happenings in the last round of f-cup championship rally.

Teemu/Rallirinki.net ‏@HartusvuoriWRC (https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC)3h (https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/513307169253756928)
SS5. Four offs so far, but the latest for the first for us. Some 100 cars left. #fcup (https://twitter.com/hashtag/fcup?src=hash)#Heinola
(https://twitter.com/hashtag/Heinola?src=hash)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx-iJo4IQAAKj_7.jpg

Teemu/Rallirinki.net ‏@HartusvuoriWRC (https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC)2h (https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/513326730736832513)
If you look carefully, you can see a car crashing in the background. It was not the first... #fcup (https://twitter.com/hashtag/fcup?src=hash)#Heinola
(https://twitter.com/hashtag/Heinola?src=hash)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx-z8Q8IAAIP0vV.jpg

[Hartusvuori]

That place on SS5 was 12 rolls and 11 offs to my count. We saw 10 rolls and 9 offs. There were bad crash places on SS1 (four just after 1st km) and SS3 (four after midway through), and of course several others. Best things is that as far as I know no ambulances on stages.

Jaska Nuorala renewed his F-Cup title as his biggest rivals fell in misfortunes. Also Nuorala drove very well today. He is still the fastest man behind the wheel of Volvo 240.

Next weekend is the last event of Finnish championship. Statistically it could turn out a breaking point as for the first time ever foreign drivers can take titles. Kruuda and Koitla lead their classes. It'll nice event too, a lot of SS kms on Saturday. Stay tuned.

[OldF]

If you want to watch live stream from last FRC round Pirelli rally here’s the link. Let’s hope that the link works outside Finland also.

Teemu/Rallirinki.net ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 8m
Live online tv stream from @pirelliralli #rallism SS6/9 can be viewed here: http://www.pirelliralli.fi/motorsport-solutions-live-stream/#sthash.cJ1VzjzF.dpbs … 1st car at 13.31 and 17.04 CET.

[OldF]

Another link. Live at the moment

http://bambuser.com/channel/JENT

[Subbe]

Pictures (http://www.mkpictures.com/2014/PirelliRalli2014.html) and Video clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06_NglsYnbU&list=UUQ5v1T3iWNpb6ELpA0P7LMg) from FRC Pirelli rally
http://www.mkpictures.com/Pirelli2014.jpg

[tolis]

@finnish: what does ohjaajan työeste means?

[Jeppe]

@finnish: what does ohjaajan työeste means?

It means: drivers job related obstacle

[Hartusvuori]

Yesterday in TeijoTalot Ralli in Lammi a huge high speed crash of an Escort crew happened. 12 rolls. The event ended in that crash.

At the end of this video, 4'00" on.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUcPZmIZYBM

[janvanvurpa]

Hey mi muchachitos can you boy help with little correct translations?
Looking at result list and I see:
lähti 16;keskeytti 6;suljettu 1

Is that like KIA and WIA and MIA? as in Killed in Action and Wounded in Action, and Missing in Action?

Got someplace i can see lots of Start list and Overall finishing?

There's guy over here who think you guys have it all wrong and are all crazy because he sees guy really charging and occasionally missing corners and flipping--therefore "everybody in Finland doesn't care what anything costs" or "everything must be very cheap" in this guys reasoning...

Help me out, please.

[OldF]

Hejsan svejsan Vurpan,


Hey mi muchachitos can you boy help with little correct translations?
Looking at result list and I see:
lähti 16;keskeytti 6;suljettu 1

Is that like KIA and WIA and MIA? as in Killed in Action and Wounded in Action, and Missing in Action?


Lähti = Started
Keskeytti = Retired
Suljettu = Disqualified



There's guy over here who think you guys have it all wrong and are all crazy because he sees guy really charging and occasionally missing corners and flipping--therefore "everybody in Finland doesn't care what anything costs" or "everything must be very cheap" in this guys reasoning...

You know, we Finns like being in the nature and maybe it’s an unintended solution to go to the nature and leaving a “dirty” road.

[janvanvurpa]

Hejsan svejsan Vurpan,



Lähti = Started
Keskeytti = Retired
Suljettu = Disqualified




You know, we Finns like being in the nature and maybe it’s an unintended solution to go to the nature and leaving a “dirty” road.


Ah! that's better! Thank you! But what i guessed seemed to fit maybe better...some of the guys disappear deep into the woods I wondered if you ever find them...

I wish I could get some of you guys over on our little forum to explain the mentality that pushes guys to try so hard there---because over here we see so many driving like they are just out for sunday drive....right now we hhave final Champignonskit rally going up in "Little Finland"--far North Michigan* and many of the guys are doing average speed of around 70 km/hr and I have no idea how you drive only 70 km/hr average...
I looked at Jari-Pekka ralli results and on a number of the stages the difference in F-cup senior was the entire class was in less that 48 second from Nuorala in 240 Volvo..46 guys in same minute..
Here often 1 minute covers 5-8 guys...

We have to figure out what makes you guys try so hard---and us guys seem to not try at all.

[OldF]

He, he. I tried to google translate http://www.ralli.net/ but got,

403: Access Forbidden
Your country (US) has been blacklisted.

With the other forum I managed to do the translation. Maybe the server is outside Finland.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f1-forum.fi%2Fvb%2Fforumdisplay.php%3Ff%3D11&edit-text=

Anyway, you could try to lure someone to explain in the English section: http://www.ralli.net/foorumit/in-english

[janvanvurpa]

He, he. I tried to google translate http://www.ralli.net/ but got,

403: Access Forbidden
Your country (US) has been blacklisted.

With the other forum I managed to do the translation. Maybe the server is outside Finland.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f1-forum.fi%2Fvb%2Fforumdisplay.php%3Ff%3D11&edit-text=

Anyway, you could try to lure someone to explain in the English section: http://www.ralli.net/foorumit/in-english


Oi oi oi va fan!? I tried ralli.net and get this:
403: Access Forbidden Your country (US) has been blacklisted.

OK Block is not serious and even doubt he could win B klassen in F-cup but is that any reason to blacklist all of us?

How are we ever to improve?
paska!

[janvanvurpa]

Hej guys, has nothing happened in Finland since October? Have you all begun hibernation early?

[samWRC]

There is already few entries in Arctic Lapland Rally.

Here are entries so far: https://akk.autourheilu.fi/Public/Kiti/Competition/CompetitionOpen.aspx?id=3741&edit=0
Click "Osallistujat".

Juha Salo will use R5 car next season and what I have understood it will be a Peugeot.

[pantealex]

Printsport is building DS 3 R5 and they have Fiesta R5 for rent (+ 2 Fiesta S2000)

[Juha_Koo]

PSR DS3 R5 is for Jussi Vainionpää, just announced. It will be ready for the summer season. PSR will also build another one for Kruuda.

[pantealex]

The DS which they build now is for Kruuda, ready in begin of january.
Second DS is for Vainionpää.

[Hartusvuori]

208 T16 R5 comfirmed for Salo.

[Vepe]

The Finnish Rally Championship will be televised next year on YLE channels. The 30-minute broadcasts and some extra content will also be shown in YLE Areena internet service, but no idea if those will be visible outside of Finland. In any case, this is a very good move, since previously the championship was shown on a pay-channel MTV Max.

[janvanvurpa]

Hej guys, any of you guys know any F-cup boys using BMW E36 car? Locally because of the great videos of Grupp F action, sevaral guys have built some E36 and now we have some failures I want to ask some of your guys if they have same kind of fauilure and what they are doing to fix it...

Any suggestions how to get in touch... English or Swedish is fine, (yeah year I know but what can I say? except viiiituuun!)

[Susiraja]

Hej guys, any of you guys know any F-cup boys using BMW E36 car? Locally because of the great videos of Grupp F action, sevaral guys have built some E36 and now we have some failures I want to ask some of your guys if they have same kind of fauilure and what they are doing to fix it...

Any suggestions how to get in touch... English or Swedish is fine, (yeah year I know but what can I say? except viiiituuun!)

Basically everyone knows someone driving an E36. It's so common nowadays. You can post your questions of the failures here. I'm pretty sure someone can help. For example my brother is building his third E36 at the moment and I'll be co-driving the Arctic rally in an E36 before the driver finishes building an E82 for group F.

[janvanvurpa]

Basically everyone knows someone driving an E36. It's so common nowadays. You can post your questions of the failures here. I'm pretty sure someone can help. For example my brother is building his third E36 at the moment and I'll be co-driving the Arctic rally in an E36 before the driver finishes building an E82 for group F.


Thanks..
OK with the E35 with what they call their fancy "multi-link" the lower shock mount has done this a couple of times:
http://i.imgur.com/FVj5K.jpg


As you see that is cast iron---gjut järn kielellä Ruotsi or valurauta I think for you..
Naturally this is annoying and make SS times suffer..
Thing is we know very well what F-cup is like and we know you guys all are mental cases and maybe rally is cheaper than locking you guys in a rubber room, but the fact is you guys drive not just faster but much harder than we do here....

So if guys are breaking the mount and the boys with BMW like to spend money so they have Proflex or similar very expensive suspension we are wondering what all the guys there are doing when they are trying --in vain---to beat that guy in the good car...what's his name--what is that car? Oh yeah this guy

http://www.valokuu.com/2013/images/kuvat/2013/01/mantsala002.jpg

Now personally I think the solution is clear...Get a nice car like Jaska has, no more cast iron mounts to break...
But these guys are stubborn so we need to find a solution other than buying a nice car...

Do you know if guys are constantly breaking that damn mount, or do they use a "upp-svetsade' (sorry only speak one of your country's official languages, the easy one) or fabricated arm?


I would really appreciate some brilliant insight..
Actually any insight would be good.

[Susiraja]

So if guys are breaking the mount and the boys with BMW like to spend money so they have Proflex or similar very expensive suspension we are wondering what all the guys there are doing when they are trying

I'm not sure if this is a very common problem here in Finland. If I'm not mistaking the mount breaks because the suspension is bottoming out. The easiest solution is buying a proper suspension. Also helps with the stage times since it's the most important part of the car to really work. A cheaper option would be trying to strengthen the mount by welding it, but I'm not sure how much that would help.

[Zeakiwi]

JV, there are a few guys here in NZ who weld up custom parts.
http://racefab.co.nz/ These guys have welded a few parts for Paddon, Mason etc. The BMWs are used in Targa, Circuit Racing here so there should be cars to measure.

The other solution might be this guy to design a new BMW part https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kayne-Barrie-Motorsport-Ltd/381083371919997

and this guy 10 miles down the road to weld it http://www.racecarfab.com/

[janvanvurpa]

JV, there are a few guys here in NZ who weld up custom parts.
http://racefab.co.nz/ These guys have welded a few parts for Paddon, Mason etc. The BMWs are used in Targa, Circuit Racing here so there should be cars to measure.

The other solution might be this guy to design a new BMW part https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kayne-Barrie-Motorsport-Ltd/381083371919997

and this guy 10 miles down the road to weld it http://www.racecarfab.com/

Thanks for the thought...Problem is I make a lot of rally parts myself and I don't want to speculate myself, so what I was hoping for is some piccies or examples eventually, but FIRST answers from more than one to the question "Are guys using the cast iron junk on the E36 multi-link and are they breaking off the shock mounts?
Then I hope to see specific examples of what Finns may have done to patch the stuff up so it holds...
Specific ideas for E36 multilink junk for high speed and very aggressive drivers...

[Zeakiwi]

Kayne Barrie - BMW V12 on gravel - in car - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9hDOlSEOkw The car has been rallied on rougher forest roads than these smooth country roads.

What has a look through the aftermarket BMW parts bin shown?
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-E36/c-91-bmw-suspension-bushings-and-mounts.aspx
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-E36/c-87-bmw-reinforcement-kits.aspx (BMW fixing)

Local cars here tend to focus on the shock absorbers - (Australia) MCA, Pedders (European - KW, Ohlins)
http://kw-suspension.com/pdf/kw_quickfinder_english_noprice.pdf
http://www.shop4race.com/en/cars/suspension/suspension-parts-by-car/bmw/suspension-kits-for-autosport/99806_kw-2-way-adjustable-shocks-for-bmw-m3-e36-m3b-cars-rally.html
Even the basic production cars for the Nurburgring 24 hours can have the expensive 4 way suspensions.

[tolis]

Michal Solowow entered Arctic Rally in a Ford Fiesta. Maybe it's a pre-Sweden test.

[pantealex]

Michal Solowow entered Arctic Rally in a Ford Fiesta. Maybe it's a pre-Sweden test.

for Shaymiev (Fiesta R5) and Kruuda (DS 3 R5) it will be.

[tolis]

So, no Sweden for Solowow? So, why Arctic? :)

[samWRC]

Solowow has entered to Rally Sweden with a WRC Fiesta.

[Rallyper]

So nice looking at Salos Peugeot R5 build up!

[samWRC]

Local driver Kari Mäkelä has entered to Arctic Rally with an Aston Martin V8! That will be very interesting. Also notable is former F1 driver Heikki Kovalainen in MM-Motorsport's Fiesta R5. In total of 146 entrants are in the entry list

Edit: I found some info of the Mäkelä's Aston Martin. Here:http://www.mat.fi/gallery/85

[Filip]

I don't know how good driver Mäkelä is, but his garage is definetly worth looking, some really nice cars there. :)

[Mirek]

Aston on Arctic? Hard to even imagine...

[Susiraja]

Aston on Arctic? Hard to even imagine...

Two years ago he drove with a Ferrari 308 :)

[Mirek]

And how was it? Any photo/video? :)

[[WRCRR]]

And how was it? Any photo/video? :)

http://brunosblog.sporttimobiili.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BRK_0414.jpg There's one.

[Susiraja]

And how was it? Any photo/video? :)

Unfortunately he went of on the horse race track super special. Always nice that he brings exotic cars to the start line. Last year he was driving a 206 wrc which you don't see anymore in the Finnish championship.

http://brunosblog.sporttimobiili.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Arctic-Lapland-Rally-2013-Ferrari-0004.jpg

[pantealex]

entrylist for ArcticRally 23-24.1

www.arcticrally.fi/images/pdf/arctic_lapland_rally_2015_osallistujalista.pdf

(top names numbers 18-25)

[Juha_Koo]

The Finnish championship held a media day today. I was present there; few notes: as known, six events (3 winter/3 summer). Classes slightly amended, e.g. now R-GT is accepted. Also new rule concerning tyre/light fitting zones: they can now be along the route and doesn't require return to service park. This helps organizers to possibly expand rally routes.

Here is my video from the day, Kruuda's interview (in English) starts at 5:25!
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=775207082528940

Juha Salo telling in the interview that the original plan to get the 208 R5 for Arctic didn't quite succeed, but they will get it ready soon. He believes that R5 will suit him well, better than S2000. Salo has been busy with the R5 project and doesn't know yet will he compete in NORF. But he is interested in competing abroad, especially in some ERC events, but everything depends on the budget. Currently the main focus is to get the R5 to run well in FRC and to win rallies.

[Japé]

The best rally championship in world, F-Cup, has it's 2015 series first rally "Jari-Pekka rally" this weekend on Hartola-Sysmä area, quite near to Lahti. All international spectators are welcome!

More info in finnish: http://heinolanua.fi/wb/

[giù tutto!]

What makes the F-Cup the best rally championship in the world? How many different championships you have been watching around the world? I'm just curious.

[Rallyper]

What makes the F-Cup the best rally championship in the world? How many different championships you have been watching around the world? I'm just curious.

You only have to watch on Youtube to understand what he means.

[giù tutto!]

I've seen many of those events from very close, no need to watch Youtube. I just like to hear from Japé what makes the difference comparing to the other championships in the world.