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Francis44
14th February 2012, 11:55
It's just like having family money to start rallying. It bring haters too.

I do not hate rich drivers, as an example I really like Novikov and I think he can get much better than Mikkelsen.

Oh Snap I said it.

DonJippo
14th February 2012, 12:09
I didn't get the full conversation and don't know who the guy in VW clothing was. Could be Ogiers boyfriend for all I know.

So you don't know who it was and what really was said but it makes Ogier a whining wimp, interesting...

dimviii
14th February 2012, 13:08
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6862243385_9800cb8821_b.jpg
In a blunt way, if someone would ask me why I love rallying, that picture of Go Fast -livery Henning flying above the spectators should do the speaking for me. That's the whoa effect, and there's more in the nuances.
because you like this photo,some morehttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6862243973_d20a283380_b.jpg

JAM
14th February 2012, 14:07
I do not hate rich drivers, as an example I really like Novikov and I think he can get much better than Mikkelsen.

Oh Snap I said it.

I don't hate Ogier, and have some doubts that the forum membres hate him.

Juha_Koo
14th February 2012, 14:10
finnish mtv3max showed those onboard specials last year, does someone know if they show them this year too? i´m really sad that there are no onboards, also from monte...


As far as I know, they haven't showed them anymore. I'm not paying for MTV3 Max chanel, but there was some talk about it on Finnish forum.

Yeah, no more onboards in any form... Not in Youtube nor Incar Specials from MAX. This is directly linked to the fall of NOS.

In Sweden Filmworks was using old NOS incar cameras on most of the cars AFAIK. Citroens had something else I believe. But for example the WRC Youtube channel was administrated by NOS and therefore I doubt that we will see any onboards there ever again. I'm also very concerned about NOS' onboard video archive, it could well end up being deleted/taken to some remote landfill site as a waste - over ten years of WRC footage destroyed is something which gives me chills. Maybe we should start asking around? I already did, but with slim results. Those have to be saved.

Maybe Ford/Citroen media could upload some onboards to internet, atleast during the NOS period they had access to onboard videos. Most likely this season will be very poor onboard-wise. :( This is a return to the pre-2007 season situation when WRC onboards were not shown nearly anywhere.

Lundgaard
14th February 2012, 16:16
The NOS-onboards are so bad, that it is no problem if we never see then again.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ocskaypeter?feature=watch

This guy should be hired! THAT is onboard.

Rallyper
14th February 2012, 16:54
Haven´t seen this mentioned here before so I don´t know if it is true or not, but this one claims that Latvala crashed into a civil car during the recce:

"Jag kunde ha dött i kollisionen" - nwt.se - Ditt Värmland, just nu! (http://www.nwt.se/hagfors/article1054912.ece)

Yeah, I saw that also. I think he met a woman on Colin´s Crest and it was a touch. The woamn decided to make a report to the local police because she experienced him to be ignorant to the accident.

I say - women and cars just don´t make a sense..... being at the stage when recce is going on. Bah!

Mirek
14th February 2012, 17:07
being at the stage when recce is going on. Bah!

Rallying as a sport held on public roads is fully dependent on a tolerance of local people. Maybe in Sweden the stages lead through forgotten areas where there are no people living and traveling. But there are also many other countries with public traffic on stages during recce because You can't stop the everyday's life of thousands. Closing roads for the rally itself is more than enough to make some people crazy. If You add few accidents and some portion of arrogance the stage is over. Rallying in my country is a perfect example how to lost some classic stages for that reason...

BleAivano
14th February 2012, 17:25
Rallying as a sport held on public roads is fully dependent on a tolerance of local people. Maybe in Sweden the stages lead through forgotten areas where there are no people living and traveling. But there are also many other countries with public traffic on stages during recce because You can't stop the everyday's life of thousands. Closing roads for the rally itself is more than enough to make some people crazy. If You add few accidents and some portion of arrogance the stage is over. Rallying in my country is a perfect example how to lost some classic stages for that reason...

I agree with you Mirek. RS's stages are usually in low populated areas but people still need to be able to access the roads.

Just because you are doing recce does not mean that you can ignore regular traffic rules. On the contrary they are obliged to follow the
same rules as everyone else. The same goes for the rally cars when they are on the transport stages, they are just like any other car.

Rallyper
14th February 2012, 17:40
This was according to the article a way for the woman to express her aggression to the drivers behavour not to the accident itself. But - being a local knowing there´s recce going on should also mean some tolerance. No rally in the area of Varmland, there would be no villages and habitants as well. That is a true fact.

mousti
14th February 2012, 17:55
Rallying as a sport held on public roads is fully dependent on a tolerance of local people. Maybe in Sweden the stages lead through forgotten areas where there are no people living and traveling. But there are also many other countries with public traffic on stages during recce because You can't stop the everyday's life of thousands. Closing roads for the rally itself is more than enough to make some people crazy. If You add few accidents and some portion of arrogance the stage is over. Rallying in my country is a perfect example how to lost some classic stages for that reason...
And also Illegal Recce makes that even worse, here in Belgium it's more of a virus. Lot's of pilots do it from top level to bottom level.

OldF
14th February 2012, 17:57
Mikko at Post-event press conference.

Q:
Were you trying to psyche your old team-mate out during the weekend? Was there a lot of fighting talk?

Mikko Hirvonen:
I tried everything I could. We were even talking about Jari-Matti's sex life and even that didn't work! The gloves were off!

Sweden - Post-event press conference | Page 2 | WRC Feature | Feb 2012 | Crash.Net (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/feature/176704/2/sweden_-_post-event_press_conference.html)

:)

BleAivano
14th February 2012, 18:01
This was according to the article a way for the woman to express her aggression to the drivers behavour not to the accident itself. But - being a local knowing there´s recce going on should also mean some tolerance. No rally in the area of Varmland, there would be no villages and habitants as well. That is a true fact.

of course but that doesn't mean drivers can move around like the owned the road.

tfp
14th February 2012, 18:11
Mikko at Post-event press conference.

Q:
Were you trying to psyche your old team-mate out during the weekend? Was there a lot of fighting talk?

Mikko Hirvonen:
I tried everything I could. We were even talking about Jari-Matti's sex life and even that didn't work! The gloves were off!

Sweden - Post-event press conference | Page 2 | WRC Feature | Feb 2012 | Crash.Net (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/feature/176704/2/sweden_-_post-event_press_conference.html)

:)

:rotflmao:

JAM
14th February 2012, 18:22
And also Illegal Recce makes that even worse, here in Belgium it's more of a virus. Lot's of pilots do it from top level to bottom level.

Here in Portugal is worst. The majority of drivers do that, and the ASN doesn't seem worried as well the organizers.

After that during years, one of our top drivers went to an international career and during two years was unable of running even near of the others. The problem? Not used to run flat-out with two times recce per stage :D

Mirek
14th February 2012, 18:26
This was according to the article a way for the woman to express her aggression to the drivers behavour not to the accident itself. But - being a local knowing there´s recce going on should also mean some tolerance. No rally in the area of Varmland, there would be no villages and habitants as well. That is a true fact.

It would be difficult to speak like that in a moment something serious happen. There is some hope such day never comes but You never know and court won't think that way You do. That's also fact because it happened elsewhere.

Barreis
14th February 2012, 19:01
:rotflmao:

Didn't say anything about sexual orientation. :D

Rallyper
14th February 2012, 19:08
I do not know if JML drove over the speed limit or behaved wrong. Nothing about that in the article. Only according to angry woman. I think average local drivers always will see the recce as drivers moving around too fast on their roads where they usually drive in 30 km/h, so yes, it´s a problem.

Mirek
14th February 2012, 19:14
Don't get me wrong, I don't speak about this particular incident I have no knowledge about. I reacted on Your post no.1744.

EightGear
14th February 2012, 19:17
If I was hit by Latvala I would feel honoured!

cali
14th February 2012, 19:22
in mtv3 article JML says that accident happened around 60km/h and he was the one who was driving too much to the centre of the road. The woman reportedly was very upset, because journalists have twisted her words in swedish press.

tolis
14th February 2012, 19:41
Nice video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArvY3ccUxmI

andre93
14th February 2012, 20:35
is Paddon's Fabia a new car??
does someone know the number of chassis?
thank's!

Coach 2
14th February 2012, 20:54
Here in Portugal is worst. The majority of drivers do that, and the ASN doesn't seem worried as well the organizers.

After that during years, one of our top drivers went to an international career and during two years was unable of running even near of the others. The problem? Not used to run flat-out with two times recce per stage :D

Agree.

It is possible this is the worst in your country Jam, but that the drivers should evolve and become really good at dictating notes to measure up to those who are fastest in the WRC (the five really fast), this might be the biggest problem of many countries, yes, maybe all.
Many drivers become best in their home country, in just this way and do not understand that it is precisely this fact that they can not manage to follow the speed when they come to the WRC.
I would say that this is the biggest problem with newcomers to the WRC.
They are very talented as drivers, but is not close to understanding how good they should be on the notes, to keep up with the top.

This is also something we should take into consideration, when we criticize such as Ott Tanaka or any other newcomers.

Barreis
14th February 2012, 20:59
If I was hit by Latvala I would feel honoured!

Hahahah, you're crazy.

tolis
14th February 2012, 21:03
Hahahah, you're crazy.
Dimviii and I were very close to be hitten by Latvala in his test last year before the Acropolis Rally. Do you remember Dimitris? :D

Barreis
14th February 2012, 21:21
Me also in 1997 from golf kit car with 170km/h.

Maui J.
14th February 2012, 21:41
Just watched the 3 days of the rally on Youtube (thanks WRCforeva).
I think the organisers of Rally Sweden should be thanked for arranging these pictures so quickly. Organising a rally of this scale is a huge task, but then all of a sudden being dumped with the TV coverage as well with only days noticed is another massive hurdle.

Well done to them. Did they secure the 300,000 Euro needed or did they make a loss?

Lundgaard
14th February 2012, 23:44
Not many HD videos coming from Sweden like normally...Too cold to film? I need my fix!

WRCfan
15th February 2012, 02:41
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6862243385_9800cb8821_b.jpg
because you like this photo,some morehttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6862243973_d20a283380_b.jpg

Where are these fantastic photos from?

dimviii
15th February 2012, 05:28
Dimviii and I were very close to be hitten by Latvala in his test last year before the Acropolis Rally. Do you remember Dimitris? :D

:vader:

@wrcfan
bestofrallylive.com

smokin'joe
15th February 2012, 07:27
is Paddon's Fabia a new car??
does someone know the number of chassis?
thank's!ex- Loix IRC if i remember correctly

Motorsportfun
15th February 2012, 09:02
Where are these fantastic photos from?

Looks Hagfors Sprint...

shaperzrally
15th February 2012, 09:40
It was the downhill ski slope. Hagfors SS 21/24, Power Stage this year


Looks Hagfors Sprint...

Xsara Fan
15th February 2012, 10:31
Denis Giraudet column: 'Open your eyes!' (http://www.almrally.ru/english/info/7242/)

A FONDO
15th February 2012, 10:40
The last awesome video from 'SubaruNorway' is out :)

Swedish Rally Day 3 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36802143)

SubaruNorway
15th February 2012, 10:40
Not many HD videos coming from Sweden like normally...Too cold to film? I need my fix!

It wasn't cold at all actually. I finaly got day 3 uploaded too so here are my 4 videos from all days.
I went to Henning's jump in Lesjöfors and by lake in Rämmen on day 3.


Tor Andre Børresen on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/motorsportfilmer)

Xsara Fan
15th February 2012, 10:46
Photos from Rally Sweden 2012 (http://www.almrally.ru/english/info/7243/)

http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/foto/25011/25039.jpg

Xsara Fan
15th February 2012, 11:03
Rally Sweden. Evgeny Novikov`s videodiary (http://www.almrally.ru/english/info/7244/)

Martin Luijk
15th February 2012, 11:12
It wasn't cold at all actually. I finaly got day 3 uploaded too so here are my 4 videos from all days.
I went to Henning's jump in Lesjöfors and by lake in Rämmen on day 3.


Tor Andre Børresen on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/motorsportfilmer)

Nice videos. If you see that jump on stage 13 Frediksberg, you see that the WRC cars do better jumps than the S2000 cars. I never realised it's such an big difference.

JAM
15th February 2012, 11:15
Agree.

It is possible this is the worst in your country Jam, but that the drivers should evolve and become really good at dictating notes to measure up to those who are fastest in the WRC (the five really fast), this might be the biggest problem of many countries, yes, maybe all.
Many drivers become best in their home country, in just this way and do not understand that it is precisely this fact that they can not manage to follow the speed when they come to the WRC.
I would say that this is the biggest problem with newcomers to the WRC.
They are very talented as drivers, but is not close to understanding how good they should be on the notes, to keep up with the top.

This is also something we should take into consideration, when we criticize such as Ott Tanaka or any other newcomers.

This subject as some issues that must be considered.

If a driver needs to have results to be known and able to catch sponsors to make international events, then this driver need to fight with the ones that made a lot of recce to be fast. So, he has to choose to do a lot of recce and be as fast as the others, or not do as much recce and be ready to do international rallyes even not so fast in his own country.

Not being fast in their own country creates a problem to find sponsors to an international career.

That's why i considerer that a weak ASN creates a big trouble to everyone in terms of illegal recce.

EightGear
15th February 2012, 11:17
Hahahah, you're crazy.

I know! :D

No I prefer to live, of course.

nr7wave
15th February 2012, 11:44
Denis Giraudet column: 'Open your eyes!' (http://www.almrally.ru/english/info/7242/)

Quote: "Evgeny managed to bring us back in Karlstad in 5th position, the best ever performance for a "rookie" in Sweden"

Andreas Mikkelsen also got 5th posision at his first Swedish Rally in 2008...

Xsara Fan
15th February 2012, 11:51
Quote: "Evgeny managed to bring us back in Karlstad in 5th position, the best ever performance for a "rookie" in Sweden"

Andreas Mikkelsen also got 5th posision at his first Swedish Rally in 2008...


OK. Then it`s repeat but it`s still 'the best ever' ;)

Mirek
15th February 2012, 11:52
Nice videos. If you see that jump on stage 13 Frediksberg, you see that the WRC cars do better jumps than the S2000 cars. I never realised it's such an big difference.

They don't have the big wing. That's the reason why they generally fly worse although they can do big jump from time to time like Mikkelsen and Tidemand on Colin's crest who had longer jumps than most of the WRC drivers.

Kielder
15th February 2012, 13:19
It wasn't cold at all actually. I finaly got day 3 uploaded too so here are my 4 videos from all days.
I went to Henning's jump in Lesjöfors and by lake in Rämmen on day 3.


Tor Andre Børresen on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/motorsportfilmer)

I have just seen now this last video, enjoying it as much as the other ones. I have to say that I was waiting for it, you gave us the best footage of the weekend. Thank you very much! I'll keep an eye on your channel! :)

dimviii
15th February 2012, 14:51
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/wrc/swe/marcin098.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/wrc/swe/marcin021.jpg some nice photos from Marcin Snopkowski @ewrc.cz
eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=3488&fotograf=200)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/wrc/swe/marcin010.jpg

AMSS
15th February 2012, 15:44
Back from the stages and the service park in Sweden, nothing special to say. Only surprising thing was Loebs continuing problems with snowrallies( but he`s the best everywhere else so it`s forgivable..)
About the cars, all seem quit equal now regarding the engines, Citroen and Ford have clearly better suspension setups for this surface but guess the Minis are at the top (or close) on tarmac!
What else is there to say than that Latvala basically controlled the event and had speed in reserve when needed.
Also noticed that Proton nowadays runs on Reigers i thought they ran on Proflex earlier, not sure though. And the factory Skodas(VW) still run on Reiger(at least the shells) but this is probably due to classifications.

Mirek
15th February 2012, 15:59
VW Škodas were on Reiger? Are You sure? In RMC they were on Sachs (red cartridges). I'm very surprised if that is true because I heard new Sachs dampers were homologated by škoda for VW at 1st January...

Proton has used Reiger since Canarias 2011. before they used Dynamic.

EDIT: Photo from Sweden, I would bet it is Sachs...
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/web/images/2005//multimedia/fotos/wrc_programm/schweden//vw-120203-0062.jpg

danon
15th February 2012, 16:08
Not many HD videos coming from Sweden like normally...Too cold to film? I need my fix!

Unique footage of Petter Solberg at 7:47 and Latvala at 8:47 followed by a chopper - HD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SfXu8kExFA&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwipiHO9zyY&feature=plcp&context=C3e67292UDOEgsToPDskIFmOnzFVfc7CtoYrL7J7OX


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcArHvhwOo&feature=plcp&context=C347f35dUDOEgsToPDskILLRJt2Rj0RjCjjYuFxLi9

dimviii
15th February 2012, 16:11
EDIT: Photo from Sweden, I would bet it is Sachs...
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/web/images/2005//multimedia/fotos/wrc_programm/schweden//vw-120203-0062.jpg

yes it is sachs

dimviii
15th February 2012, 16:24
A million dollars question.
how much downgrade in terms of power were the fiestas of Henning Tanak Ostberg Novikov? :D

pucky54
15th February 2012, 16:24
EDIT: Photo from Sweden, I would bet it is Sachs...
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/web/images/2005//multimedia/fotos/wrc_programm/schweden//vw-120203-0062.jpg

It's a photo from Monte!!

Mirek
15th February 2012, 16:26
It's a photo from Monte!!

You are right. It is a mistake on VW Motorsport website because they have it under Sweden. We have to search for new photo :)

dimviii
15th February 2012, 16:26
It's a photo from Monte!!

yes start number is from Monte.Wrong photo at vw site.

SubaruNorway
15th February 2012, 20:57
I have just seen now this last video, enjoying it as much as the other ones. I have to say that I was waiting for it, you gave us the best footage of the weekend. Thank you very much! I'll keep an eye on your channel! :)


Thanks! Good to hear it was worth traveling around by myself all weekend and working late nights with video :) Didn't get any of service and much faces but it's hard to get anything interesting without accreditation, which i guess is near impossible for me to get anyway.

bluuford
15th February 2012, 21:36
You are right. It is a mistake on VW Motorsport website because they have it under Sweden. We have to search for new photo :)

Very small bit is visible here: Autoleht - Galerii (http://www.autoleht.ee/galerii?id=854)
on the second last row
Edit:and one more:http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/6a/fullj.a63c49eae0bf3431540cc3de43714b83/a63c49eae0bf3431540cc3de43714b83-getty-508777042.jpg

MTA
15th February 2012, 23:00
Our pictures from a great Rally Sweden again
...::: Rallyfoto.se :::... (http://www.rallyfoto.se/)

AMSS
16th February 2012, 06:52
Hello

Just saw the topmounts at the service park and they at least were Reigers as well as the breather for the damper. The purple colour is quit easy to notice..
But in all fairness I did not see the actual damperbody so might be that for some reason they used just some parts in top from old cars if the Sachs ones aren`t ready yet?
And thanks for the Proton info, I wasn`t aware of that!



VW Škodas were on Reiger? Are You sure? In RMC they were on Sachs (red cartridges). I'm very surprised if that is true because I heard new Sachs dampers were homologated by škoda for VW at 1st January...

Proton has used Reiger since Canarias 2011. before they used Dynamic.

EDIT: Photo from Sweden, I would bet it is Sachs...
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/web/images/2005//multimedia/fotos/wrc_programm/schweden//vw-120203-0062.jpg

Koceens
16th February 2012, 07:11
Finally I have completed my video from rally Sweden. This was an awesome rally!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibIllQH78Vs&hd=1

Mirek
16th February 2012, 09:46
Hello

Just saw the topmounts at the service park and they at least were Reigers as well as the breather for the damper. The purple colour is quit easy to notice..
But in all fairness I did not see the actual damperbody so might be that for some reason they used just some parts in top from old cars if the Sachs ones aren`t ready yet?
And thanks for the Proton info, I wasn`t aware of that!

Thank You, that is interesting. Maybe we can find something more to be sure.

A FONDO
16th February 2012, 09:59
Finally I have completed my video from rally Sweden. This was an awesome rally!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibIllQH78Vs&hd=1
Thanks for sharing. Some mistakes in editing but very valuable scenes!

Salist
16th February 2012, 19:12
My photos from Rally Sweden:
Rally Sweden 2012 (http://wr-x.com/#/wrc-img/2012-54/rally-sweden-2012-hagfors-77/)

Priorat
16th February 2012, 23:03
My photos also
ralliaire (http://ralliaire.blogspot.com/)

Coach 2
16th February 2012, 23:22
Thank You, that is interesting. Maybe we can find something more to be sure.

Rumors say they (Ogier and Andreas) used the Sachs dampers, at least one of the days in Sweden, and they should have used Rieger at least one of the days.
Why I write rumors, is that I do not fully trust the informant.

but I can say with certainty that the Sachs damper are available and tested.

Coach 2
16th February 2012, 23:37
A million dollars question.
how much downgrade in terms of power were the fiestas of Henning Tanak Ostberg Novikov? :D

I think I can say with great certainty, that at least Novikov and Mads had the same engine as the factory team.
When the factory team mounted the box for power stage, they got the same.

Mirek
17th February 2012, 09:23
Photos of André Lavadinho: Autosport : MS - Rally Sweden (SWRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/fotogalerie.php?id=61&id=979&autor=83)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/a9f8addce3f57b911885dc2e79c5331d.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/516081c011ef4416911a12b2c37d4fef.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/782829845b2410af1956dd4a7cf376a6.jpg

dimviii
17th February 2012, 10:19
I think I can say with great certainty, that at least Novikov and Mads had the same engine as the factory team.
When the factory team mounted the box for power stage, they got the same.

plenty of forumers said a lot of times that cars aren t same in terms of power.Specially Mads fiesta mentioned last year wasn t powerfull as works ones,after Sweden.In Sweden it was rocket,at next rallies was downgraded.
in the next rally are they going to be the same like Sweden,or are they going to steel some horses?

Xsara Fan
17th February 2012, 18:51
A million dollars question.
how much downgrade in terms of power were the fiestas of Henning Tanak Ostberg Novikov? :D

Wrong question. Difference between factory and non-factory is not only in power.

At Rally of GB 2011 Novikov drove third Abu Dhabi Team car. It was a non-factory car, but it was 15 kg lighter than usual Novikov`s car. Also Evgeny has old suspension (he can`t adjust it between stages) but other M-Sport drivers has new suspension. This year Novikov`s car has new suspension.

Mirek
17th February 2012, 19:19
I thought You can adjust even group N dampers between stages. I can hardly imagine it is not possible with WRC ones.

donlorean
17th February 2012, 20:05
I thought You can adjust even group N dampers between stages. I can hardly imagine it is not possible with WRC ones.


Yes, but if you put same setup than usually, it's not working same way... Click's are in same position but setup is totally different... Maybe that's why he must do some adjustment... Don't know, just quess...

danon
17th February 2012, 22:42
45min HD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y6vkxx7HEU&feature=player_embedded

dimviii
17th February 2012, 22:57
Wrong question. Difference between factory and non-factory is not only in power..
You didn t understant my question. ;) If you have understand,we can discuss it.


At Rally of GB 2011 Novikov drove third Abu Dhabi Team car. It was a non-factory car, but it was 15 kg lighter than usual Novikov`s car..
You really think that 15kg can make difference at Novikovs last year speed?
Of course every car doesn t weight same as the other cars.Same for every manufacture.



Also Evgeny has old suspension (he can`t adjust it between stages) but other M-Sport drivers has new suspension. This year Novikov`s car has new suspension.
Can you explain me why he couldn t adjust his suspension between stages?


So what happens guys? Suddenly Mads have a ''good'' ecu program? :D

tfp
18th February 2012, 00:28
Dont forget his good road position in sweden last year.

AMSS
18th February 2012, 09:20
The shimming or valving might have changed yes, but the basic principle what happens when adjusting with the clicks is always the same, regardless of shim setting or valving.
I can`t think of any reason why he couldn`t chnge cliscks between stages other than no knowledge in what to do?
At least it`s certain that they haven`t removed the click units only from his car! Beacuse it would have needed classification.



Yes, but if you put same setup than usually, it's not working same way... Click's are in same position but setup is totally different... Maybe that's why he must do some adjustment... Don't know, just quess...

bluuford
18th February 2012, 22:01
Just looked the final day from Motors TV. Two persons discussion works really well! It gives the sole to the footages.
And finally I realized that we had 6 different drivers on podium in two events. it took 5 events to happen in last year.

mousti
18th February 2012, 22:16
Plus Julian and Colin are great talkers! I like this duo more then Becs and Colin. That's why I could listen a whole day to IRC rally radio, but not so much with WRC rally radio.

Antony Warmbold
19th February 2012, 08:28
The shimming or valving might have changed yes, but the basic principle what happens when adjusting with the clicks is always the same, regardless of shim setting or valving.
I can`t think of any reason why he couldn`t chnge cliscks between stages other than no knowledge in what to do?
At least it`s certain that they haven`t removed the click units only from his car! Beacuse it would have needed classification.

I believe the original poster was actually meaning to say more precisely by adjustment: ride height. I had a comment on the blog last year explaining that the works drivers can change the ride height of their cars with a tool, rather easily, between stages. While others can only do it at service because different system.

DoN_cz
19th February 2012, 12:18
Rally Sweden 2012:

http://rallyphotos.cz/photos/wrc-rally-sweden-2012/42-jari-ketomaa-ford-fiesta-rs-wrc.jpg

more @ WRC Rally Sweden 2012 (http://rallyphotos.cz/photos/wrc-rally-sweden-2012/)

A FONDO
19th February 2012, 13:29
Thanks a lot for these high-res photos!

OldF
19th February 2012, 22:13
Also Evgeny has old suspension (he can`t adjust it between stages) but other M-Sport drivers has new suspension. This year Novikov`s car has new suspension.

Do you mean suspension or ride high? At least last year I think that only the manu cars had the ability to change the ride high between stages. I saw on MTV3 broadcast when JML lowered the car before the tarmac stages in Argentina. It was done by a crank and the adjustment point was near the front damper.

Edit: Antony was faster

Extremrallye
19th February 2012, 23:01
Back from magic Rally Sweden :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBfKp-gX1wA&list=UULhq2kgtJN3yESuvoq-q5mw&index=1&feature=plcp

Salist
20th February 2012, 13:49
Our video from Rally Sweden:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VzctdyA3jE

makinen_fan
22nd February 2012, 09:51
nice onboard vid from Brynildsen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbW-18auIFE&feature=youtu.be

BleAivano
22nd February 2012, 20:16
Did no one power stage rally sweden live stream?
if you would like to thank the feedback was followed by
[email:16kbgeu6]avallo@hotmail.com[/email:16kbgeu6]

no there was no live coverage of the powerstage.

Rallyper
22nd February 2012, 21:55
no there was no live coverage of the powerstage.

Yes, it was. And Mr Vallo wants some credits for his or their work at RS PS. I saw it myself.

Anders Grøndal
2nd March 2012, 17:21
Hello everyone!

I would be happy if anyone in here has a photo of car 65 Anders Grøndal-Trond Svendsen on the podium in Swedish Rally!
If anyone has please send to: anders.grondal@bilbutikken.no

Thanks

Micke_VOC
5th March 2012, 18:23
Hello everyone!

I would be happy if anyone in here has a photo of car 65 Anders Grøndal-Trond Svendsen on the podium in Swedish Rally!
If anyone has please send to: anders.grondal@bilbutikken.no

Thanks

Try with Pär Backman, Backmans Foto.se (http://www.backmansfoto.se/)

haer72
13th March 2012, 10:38
Welcome to visit my site www.bilsportsfotografen.se (http://www.bilsportsfotografen.se) to watch pictures from Rally Sweden.
Just click on the link "Galleri" to find the pictures.

A FONDO
13th March 2012, 12:54
[positive critic] I donnow is it only me, but most of the cars look somehow "static", like they are parked in a museum. Take a look on what other photografers share, which type of corners choose, and set your camera on "best shot mode" which means one click takes dozen photos for a couple of seconds (while the car is flying past you) and then choose the most attractive ones.

GustavK
13th March 2012, 14:18
In my opinion haer72's photos look great and there is no need to change the settings. Keep up the good work! ;)