Rally Sweden 2012

[Viking]

Novikov said exactly the opposite at the SVT 1's overview last night at 10:45 pm.

It was like: "It is my first time here and I don't know the stages like the others do,
but I'll go maximum attack from the very beginning. That's for sure!" :D

Well maybe he forgot :)
But the Swedish stages will be first time methinks.

[A FONDO]

You mean he should be faster? Come on. The guy is just in the beginning of learning!
Neuville is in the beginning of learning, not Sandell !

[Mirek]

For me it is. Last year he was 7th again but with the Skoda.

In completely different situation when he made a looot from starting position. After first service he was naturally only loosing positions. Plus he was with a car he drove already for two years...


Výsledky Rallye: Výsledky on-line (http://2012.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=2) is working again.

[Wim_Impreza]

What about Sandell anyone?

It´s very much Ketomaa here and Prokop there and we have Sandell, first time in WRC-car on 7 th. Not bad, is it??

Sandell did already some smaller rallies in a Fabia WRC, so it is not the first time for him in a WRC car.

[Rallyper]

Sandell did already some smaller rallies in a Fabia WRC, so it is not the first time for him in a WRC car.

It´s first time in Mini. Neuville drove Monte, didn´t he? Fabia is not Mini. When you talk about Hirvonen and changing to Citroen it´s very much about how he faces the new car and so on. Same for Sandell. First time in Mini. That´s it!

[danon]

Well maybe he forgot :)
But the Swedish stages will be first time methinks.

... or maybe he had in mind the place itself he was standing on while giving the interview. :D

[Wim_Impreza]

It´s first time in Mini. Neuville drove Monte, didn´t he? Fabia is not Mini. When you talk about Hirvonen and changing to Citroen it´s very much about how he faces the new car and so on. Same for Sandell. First time in Mini. That´s it!

I didn't even mention about Neuville and Hirvonen... You said that it was his first time in a WRC (World Rally Car) and that isn't right.

[pettersolberg29]

Potentially a good time for Petter

[John V]

Výsledky Rallye: Výsledky on-line (http://2012.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=2) is working again.

Sorry, but there was network (peering) problem, not server fall. But now should be everything fine yet.

[Viking]

Petter is not to bad :)

[Miika]

Petter waking up, partly thanks to the tyres?

[dimviii]

Sorry, but there was network (peering) problem, not server fall. But now should be everything fine yet.

thanks John!

[Mirek]

Many drivers complaining to have very few studs left.

[dimviii]

Petter waking up, partly thanks to the tyres?

isn t this the stage is passing outside of his house?

[Miika]

Looking good for Ford, Petter catching up even Mikko.

[ridder]

isn t this the stage is passing outside of his house?

Nope, that was either ss2 or 3.

[focus206]

Hirvonen losing a couple of seconds...

[Allyc85]

JML now 17.2 ahead :D

[Miika]

2.8 between Mikko and Petter, game on.

[Viking]

isn t this the stage is passing outside of his house?

SS2

[A FONDO]

JML now 17.2 ahead :D
so expecting a crash tomorrow morning

[Rallyper]

Loeb loosing two minutes is very good for the competition. Now he can´t just cruise. It will be interesting to see him going really flat out tomorrow.

[Tom206wrc]

Please Mikko don't let you catch by Petter and lose terrain on JM !!! :mad:

[EightGear]

Too bad for Ostberg he's not on the pace 100%. He had the most preparation of all drivers for this event.

[Red bull]

so expecting a crash tomorrow morning

witch!

[A FONDO]

witch!
:D no, just have a good memory :cool:

[ridder]

Wow, that was quite impressive from Solberg. Up until now the biggest difference between 1st and 2nd on a stage was 3.3, now Solberg wins by 7.4!

Might be road position had something to say due to the sun going down, but there's only Novikov between Solberg and Latvala and here up north the sun doesn't really go down in 5 mins it's rather that light slowly changes during more than 1 hour.

[N.O.T]

Loeb 6th already... 4th s very realistic...

[Brother John]

Nope, that was either ss2 or 3.

Petter also has a home in Torsby + PSWRCTEAM has their address in Torsby.

[Tom206wrc]

maybe only Sandell


Loeb will catch Henning tomorrow ;)
But he won't be abe to do better than 6th overall if nothing happens in front :mark:

[N.O.T]

Catching Novikov will be easy... Ostberg will be a challenge but i think somemone from the front will do something stupid.

[Coach 2]

Wow, that was quite impressive from Solberg. Up until now the biggest difference between 1st and 2nd on a stage was 3.3, now Solberg wins by 7.4!

Might be road position had something to say due to the sun going down, but there's only Novikov between Solberg and Latvala and here up north the sun doesn't really go down in 5 mins it's rather that light slowly changes during more than 1 hour.

As I said before, have you not rally radio. Petter has preserved tires all the time. This can be decisive throughout the rally

[EightGear]

Ogier will be in front of Mikkelsen again I think.

[N.O.T]

Ogier ahead of Mikkelsen once more.... Mikkelsen some kind of problem.

[N.O.T]

Maybe he did it on purpose to have the splits of Ogier...

[danon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtA8OWf38Q8&feature=player_embedded

[N.O.T]

No tyres for Mikkelsen he wasted them on the previous one...

[Coach 2]

No tyres for Mikkelsen he wasted them on the previous one...

Yes

[Mirek]

Same problem as half of the crews through - lost studs.

MIKKELSEN A. / FLOENE O. (st. č. 62) "Good day, but I think I was little bit too agressive on tyres and thus lost on this one."

Anyway I though Grondal can be close to Pajunen but in fact he is quite nowhere near him.

And I must admit I expected much worse performance from Al Rahji.

[Viking]

Maybe he did it on purpose to have the splits of Ogier...

well he will have that anyway Ogier will start in the P1/P2 bunch, but it is quite a lot darker now in the forest than 20-30 mins earlier.

[DonJippo]

Same problem as half of the crews through - lost studs.

The said perfect winter conditions on stages turned out to be not so perfect.

[N.O.T]

The said perfect winter conditions on stages turned out to be not so perfect.

after 70 passes through no matter what the ice is gone....

[Mintexmemory]

So it looks like JML chose the perfect start position then. Ogier must also have been driving to preserve his tyres given how good his SS9 time is - quite mature wouldn't you all agree. As the Pointer Sisters said ' I want a man who can take his time not come and go in a heated rush' AM take note!!

[Brother John]

So it looks like JML chose the perfect start position then. Ogier must also have been driving to preserve his tyres given how good his SS9 time is - quite mature wouldn't you all agree. As the Pointer Sisters said ' I want a man who can take his time not come and go in a heated rush' AM take note!!

:D I like the Pointer Sisters. :p

[Coach 2]

It can be big problems for the S2000, they can use fewer tires than the WRC.

[Jeppe]

Anyway I though Grondal can be close to Pajunen but in fact he is quite nowhere near him.

Mirek, You should ask me ;) ;)

[tolis]

There is little snow in SSS... :(

[logic]

Will the SS be streamed live again?

[Coach 2]

Anyway I though Grondal can be close to Pajunen but in fact he is quite nowhere near him.


One is the R4 and the other N4, but the difference is maybe not so much between the different classes that preliminary results look like.

[Juha_Koo]

One is the R4 and the other N4, but the difference is maybe not so much between the different classes that preliminary results look like.

Subaru R4 is slower than Mitsu what I've heard. For example Salo has taken weight issues much further than TMR, atleast looking at the cockpit...

[darkstar]

ehm, how is the startorder now for tomorrow? top ten reversed? why did hirvonen loose so much time in the last stage?

[kobefly]

Overall after SS9
1) Latvala (WRC - Ford) 1:22:16.8
2) Hirvonen (WRC - Citroen) +17.2
3) Solberg, P. (WRC - Ford) +20.0
4) Ostberg (WRC - Ford) +31.6
5) Novikov (WRC - Ford) +1:11.5
6) Solberg, H. (WRC - Ford) +1:46.8
7) Loeb (WRC - Citroen) +2:09.7
8) Sandell (WRC - Mini) +2:16.3
9) Prokop (WRC - Ford) +2:24.6
10) Brynildsen (WRC - Ford) +2:56.1
11) Ogier (S2000 - Skoda) +3:07.5
12) Mikkelsen (S2000 - Skoda) +3:15.1
13) Andersson (S2000 - Proton) +3:55.4
14) Neuville (WRC - Citroen) +4:36.7
15) Breen (S2000 - Ford) +6:01.4

[Juha_Koo]

Ketomaa will not start again in SuperRally. Joint decision between him, Autotek and DMack because the tyres weren't competetive enough in mixed snow-gravel conditions.

[Goren]

Will the SS be streamed live again?

???

[Miika]

Ketomaa won´t be continuing in the super-rally, and according to this it´s mainly due to the tyres:
Ketomaa ei jatka superrallissa - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2012/02/1493077/ketomaa-ei-jatka-superrallissa)

"We could have continued in the Super Rally but with Autotek Motorsport and the tyre manufacturer we decided not to continue, since the tyre isn´t yet competitive in these conditions. The stages in the remaining days have even more ice which was the final decisive factor to withdraw."

..

EDIT: Almost as slow as Nobre, I´m gutted.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/977/977_rally_sweden_2012_47c29cee7d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/977/977_rally_sweden_2012_7823d6e13c.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/977/977_rally_sweden_2012_f159119df1.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/977/977_rally_sweden_2012_1a2820a8cd.jpg

More photos from day 1 on Norway HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=977&fseason=2012)

[mm1]

What about sss, will it be live?

[Juha_Koo]

Interesting, some cars (JML, Henning) seem to have "old" NOS onboard cameras installed... I hope Östberg has ocskaypeter's excellent camera installed, in some pictures it looks like it is there.

[andyone]

where can i watch live stream of sweden online anyone any idea. i cant see it live on TV where i am

[Coach 2]

I'm having trouble understanding why Tanaka is not faster than he is. He was actually very impressive on Shake down.

[tfp]

So...Weve got the king of Sweden Hirvonen and the challenger Latvala battling all day, an 8 times world champion going off and slowing down (IMO) the most promising rising talent - Ostberg after an off, and Petter fighting for position where he should be - at the front, this is what I'm talking about :cool:

I cant wait to see the TV coverage tonight!! :D

[Sulland]

Ketomaa will not start again in SuperRally. Joint decision between him, Autotek and DMack because the tyres weren't competetive enough in mixed snow-gravel conditions.

Dmack should then buy him and the others Michelins and let them drive on. Develop their tyre based on data collected so far, and come back. But people that have bought their tyre, that is not good enough should not suffer !

[tfp]

That is indeed if there is any coverage....

[bluuford]

I'm having trouble understanding why Tanaka is not faster than he is. He was actually very impressive on Shake down.
Tänak said, no good feeling after off on the first stage today in the morning

[Elkoorps]

I also wish I could see the coverage, but I forgot MOTORS TV isn't on Sky Go :(

[Perra71]

Usually Swedish television puts there programs on Svtplay just a few minutes after they have broadcast it so it should be after 23:15. The program is 30min but in swedish except driver interviews!

[Elkoorps]

Thanks, if no-one posts the English Broadcast tonight I'll check out Svtplay then.

[rallye-sport]

Photos from Day 1 Photos Rallye de Suède 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-de-suede-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-rallye-de-suede-2012/img_9915.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-rallye-de-suede-2012/img_9949.jpg

[tolis]

Day 1 photos here... (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13351)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c81ab3b7780b5ea7aedf694104d6b68f.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/ba1dae98e72caef060d059023402ab3f.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c9ca88d9a280c1959f69b1650519d14c.jpg

[Fri]

Friday pics:
rallysport.hu - Rally Sweden 2012 - péntek (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/02_sved/03_pentek/index.htm)

[Fri]

Friday pics:
rallysport.hu - Rally Sweden 2012 - péntek (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/02_sved/03_pentek/index.htm)

[tolis]

Start list for tomorrow: http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Start-list-section-6-doc.-5.6.pdf

[Mirek]

Mirek, You should ask me ;) ;)

Yeah, I should have done it. I think I talked about him with You or guys in NORF :)


One is the R4 and the other N4, but the difference is maybe not so much between the different classes that preliminary results look like.

I know but the difference between them is for sure more than a car.

[Mirek]

Dmack should then buy him and the others Michelins and let them drive on. Develop their tyre based on data collected so far, and come back. But people that have bought their tyre, that is not good enough should not suffer !

You can't switch tyre supplier during the event.

[Coach 2]

I know but the difference between them is for sure more than a car.

Agree.

[bluuford]

Start list for tomorrow: http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Start-list-section-6-doc.-5.6.pdf

Sordo will not start

[A.F.F.]

Sordo will not start

Why? Prodrive run out of money?

[danon]

SVT 2 at 10:45 p.m. to 11:15 p.m.: stage 1

[bluuford]

Do not know, was it engine prob or off.From my Nokia it looked like he was off between Split 4 and Split 5 and then finally stopped a few hundred meters away from Ketomaa, maybe damaged the radiator and then damaged engine?

[adr17]

Brynhildsen is much quicker than Ketomaa with the same tires.

before slagging ketomaa off you should get the facts , brynhildsen is on MICHELIN !!!!!!

dmack and ketomaa have decided not to restart , car is ok

[adr17]

rallysport.hu (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/02_sved/03_pentek/pages/RSHU_Photo_051_jpg.htm)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Interesting... Latvala leads after Day 1 by 16.8sec but only had one fastest stage time (SS8).

Does this show a more mature, consistent JML, after trying too hard and crashing in Monte Carlo ?

Lets hope so. The sport needs him to win rallies and not just have the most fastest times...

[SubaruNorway]

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36572054)

Shakedown posted yesterday.
WRC Swedish Rally Shakedown 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36503511)

[tolis]

NOW Highlights of Sweden in Motors TV with Colin Clark: Motors TV em directo no Tvdez.com - ESTADIOFUTEBOL.COM (http://www.tvdez.com/motorstv)

[Goren]

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36572054)

Shakedown posted yesterday.
WRC Swedish Rally Shakedown 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36503511)

Class Videos

;)

[N.O.T]

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36572054)

Shakedown posted yesterday.
WRC Swedish Rally Shakedown 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36503511)


very good selection of places.

[dimviii]

Interesting... Latvala leads after Day 1 by 16.8sec but only had one fastest stage time (SS8).

Does this show a more mature, consistent JML, after trying too hard and crashing in Monte Carlo ?


He hasn t got any choice.If he screw Sweden bye-bye championship,and probably switch at team position with Petter.

[tolis]

He hasn t got any choice.If he screw Sweden bye-bye championship,and probably switch at team position with Petter.
Stamata re gantemi!!! :D

[dimviii]

Dmack should then buy him and the others Michelins and let them drive on. Develop their tyre based on data collected so far, and come back. But people that have bought their tyre, that is not good enough should not suffer !

even if they test michelin/pirellis for a decade,the chances to produce a equal tyre are veeery few.It seems so simple,but plenty of tyre manufacturers didn t manage it.
Collecting data from one or two drivers at some events per year is useless.When they will undertant what is going on,the tyre rules they are going to change,and again from the start.

[N.O.T]

He hasn t got any choice.If he screw Sweden bye-bye championship,and probably switch at team position with Petter.

We still have 2 days to go so...

[dimviii]

Stamata re gantemi!!! :D

Se exei prosylitisei aytos o GF :p

[danon]

Good overview by SVT 2.
P. Solberg's wife and son got so excited when he showed up.
His wife was trembling all over in front of the cam.
What a great feeling!
Keep up the good pace Petter!
Show who's the #1 :champion:

[dimviii]

Sandell trying to keep warm his hands
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6847062785_a57e296cc8_z.jpg

[Barreis]

Nice and exciting rally.

[VFTS]

Good overview by SVT 2.
P. Solberg's wife and son got so excited when he showed up.
His wife was trembling all over in front of the cam.
What a great feeling!
Keep up the good pace Petter!
Show who's the #1 :champion:

Is there any place/link where we can see this in replay?

[danon]

Is there any place/link where we can see this in replay?

It was a reportage broadcasted at SVT 2 at 10:45 p.m. to 11:15 p.m.: stage 1
I hope somebody will YouT-upload it later on.

[danon]

Is there any place/link where we can see this in replay?

But you can still watch the rest two days by installing this player:Tutorial to see SVT1 and SVT2, Swedish channels. INSTALLATION (http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?t=2601633&page=11)

TV Schedule:

Thursday 9 februari
SVT 2 22.00 Sport News
SVT 1 at 10:45 p.m. to 11:15 p.m.: Infor Rally Sweden.


Friday 10 februari
SVT 2 22.00 Sport News.
SVT 2 at 10:45 p.m. to 11:15 p.m.: stage 1


Saturday 11 februari
SVT 1 at 11:40: Report fran stage 2 in Vinterstudion.
SVT 1 at 17.55: Sports News.
SVT 2 at 18.45: stage 2


Sunday 12 februari
SVT 1 at 12:25: Report fran stage 3 in Vinterstudion.
SVT 1 at 16.00: Stage 3
SVT 1 at 17.55: Sports News.
SVT 1 at 19.00: Sportspegeln.
SVT 1 at 22.45: The abstracts Rally Sweden 2012.

[danon]

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36572054)

Shakedown posted yesterday.
WRC Swedish Rally Shakedown 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36503511)

Bravo!!!
You created and shared something,
that differs in no way from any costly TV promoter,
that FIA is about to make a contract with.
That's the way to go!
Thumbs up!!!

[sollitt]

He hasn t got any choice.If he screw Sweden bye-bye championship,and probably switch at team position with Petter. Are there not still eleven rallies to go in the Championship?

[rallyfiend]

Bravo!!!
You created and shared something,
that differs in no way from any costly TV promoter,
that FIA is about to make a contract with.
That's the way to go!
Thumbs up!!!

Footage is different to programme.

great footage though!

[danon]

Footage is different to programme.

great footage though!

Sure it is.
But I prefer more pure-footage to more PR-programme.

[dimviii]

Are there not still eleven rallies to go in the Championship?

and that means that he can through to wastebasket second rally at row? You think that it is easy to cover 40 points from Loeb?

[Juha_Koo]

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36572054)

Shakedown posted yesterday.
WRC Swedish Rally Shakedown 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36503511)


Fabulous! Awesome slides and pure speed. Wow.

[Sulland]

You can't switch tyre supplier during the event.

There is a rule for everything isnt there !! :)
As long as the tyre is an approved tyre, it should be ok to switch as in national rallies.

[tfp]

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36572054)

Shakedown posted yesterday.
WRC Swedish Rally Shakedown 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36503511)

:champion:

You should be able to press the "like" button twice - This is why rally is the best form of motorsport in the world.

[danon]

Loeb's off - for those who haven't seen it yet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07mgx84QFsI

[sollitt]

and that means that he can through to wastebasket second rally at row? You think that it is easy to cover 40 points from Loeb?

Not necessarily easy, but always possible. And until it is no longer possibility it's a bit silly writing him off.

Didn't Loeb himself fail to finish a couple of rounds last year?

[Elkoorps]

While its not in HD, very impressed by the Motors coverage today, mainly because of the 2 commentators, the voice of rally is by far the best commentator in the business for radio and TV it seems.

[sollitt]

There is a rule for everything isnt there !! :)
As long as the tyre is an approved tyre, it should be ok to switch as in national rallies. Are you sure there is such a rule?

[A.F.F.]

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36572054)

Shakedown posted yesterday.
WRC Swedish Rally Shakedown 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36503511)

Very good job :up:

[bluuford]

Do not know, was it engine prob or off.From my Nokia it looked like he was off between Split 4 and Split 5 and then finally stopped a few hundred meters away from Ketomaa, maybe damaged the radiator and then damaged engine?

lucky quess: World Rally Championship - News - Sordo out of Sweden (http://www.wrc.com/news/sordo-out-of-sweden/?fid=16070)

[wwbroe]

Good morning guys, does WRR work with you, i don't hear a thing. :(

[nr7wave]

Good morning guys, does WRR work with you, i don't hear a thing. :(

It works via Irally app, atleast.

[wwbroe]

Yesterday it worked just fine, but today i don't hear anything.

Edit: it is working now, at least i am hearing some music now.

[wwbroe]

First splits for first stage of the day are coming in :)

[Miika]

Nobre is back? O-ohhh..

[bluuford]

Göransson stopped .. maybe one km after Split 1

[wwbroe]

That is quick, is he actually stopped or just problem with the tracker?

[bluuford]

It was just GPS problem.. sry:-)

[wwbroe]

Seems like very good pace for Ott, alltough there is not really someone to compare with.

[Miika]

Now I´ve figured out why Nobre´s times are so slow, he is writing down those end-of-the-stage Oscar speeches on paper while driving.

[wwbroe]

Seems like Goransson had a problem after all, Ott is allready at finish.

[ridder]

Interviewing Ott is like talking with Marvin

[papar007]

What a great guy Nobre is

[J.Lindstroem]

What a great guy Nobre is

wish he wasn't so slow...

[papar007]

wish he wasn't so slow...

That's another story

[nr7wave]

Hennings first split looks good.

[bluuford]

Loeb not visible on the stage at all

[nr7wave]

Where is Loeb on the splits?

[wwbroe]

Probably a tracker problem, or didn't he start the stage?

[bluuford]

Loeb appeared for a moment just before Split 1 and then dissapeared.. so I quess it is GPS unless he is under the snow :-P

Edit: everything is Ok Loeb is just before Split 4

[ridder]

Ogier feels it necessary to point out that Mikkelsen runs much later on the road in just about every interview.

[wwbroe]

He is showing now on split 4

[Miika]

Fine time from Tänak, considering that he is now driving second in the starting order.

EDIT: A mighty fine time it seems.

[wwbroe]

Loeb 1,1 slower as Tanak, great performance by Ott

[nr7wave]

Henning and Loeb equal on Loebs only split!

[ridder]

Hirvonen is really going for it ...win or ditch

[wwbroe]

Yes, Hirvonen seems to be trying very hard if you have a look at the splits

[wwbroe]

Great time by Mads Ostberg, taking besttime away from Ott.

[Miika]

Latvala closing in on the splits, Finns showing how it´s done on snow.

[wwbroe]

JML is reacting on splits of Hirvonen, what a fight!!!

[wwbroe]

Look at JML's last split :D

[Miika]

Yesyes, JML.

[ridder]

seems the fight is over again :(

[wwbroe]

No third split for Craig Breen?

[bluuford]

Breen and McRae both OK on the map
Edit: No, McRae still between Split 1 and Split 2.. to many cars on the stage right now :-)
Edit 2: seems that There is GPS blind spot between Split 1 and Split 2. All dissapear there:-) Now our Polish driver dissapeared there

[A FONDO]

did anybody record motorstv's day1 preview ?

edit: I found em! 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNB4pWi9jQw ; 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf3vp6k-QrE

[bluuford]

Tänak is stopped exactly between Split 1 and Split 2

[swordsman]

Come on Tänak, everyone seems to have realized you can drive fast on snow. Maybe it's time to stay out of mistakes for a few stages next time? :) Pity, such an interesting driver...

[eib1]

Ott Tänak travelled furthest over Colin's Crest on Stage 11 - 32 metres!

[Brother John]

Come on Tänak, everyone seems to have realized you can drive fast on snow. Maybe it's time to stay out of mistakes for a few stages next time? :) Pity, such an interesting driver...

Is he the Finnish Duval at the Ford team?

[miksu]

Is he the Finnish Duval at the Ford team?

Finnish?

[miksu]

Tänak moving again just in front of Loeb

[bluuford]

Tänak Moving again!

[ridder]

Ogier feels it necessary to point out that Mikkelsen runs much later on the road in just about every interview.

... and he did it again :)
The chap seems rather interested in how they performances compare.

[Brother John]

Finnish?

It's a joke, You know what I mean miksu.

[Iskald]

Ott Tänak travelled furthest over Colin's Crest on Stage 11 - 32 metres!

WRR just reported that overall record is 36 metres by Ken Block, but that cant be true as Marius Aasen flew 37 metres in his Subaru Group N car last year...

[Mise]

I really like watching the splits with this new system. It lasts much longer.
Last year it was five cars and that was it.

[eib1]

WRR just reported that overall record is 36 metres by Ken Block, but that cant be true as Marius Aasen flew 37 metres in his Subaru Group N car last year...

Overall record is about 40 meters by Hirvonen (2010?)

[wwbroe]

So Loeb is human after all, making a little bit too many mistakes to fight for victory in Sweden.

[A.F.F.]

Good morning guys.

Glad to see both Latvala and Hirvonen still fighting :D

[Goren]

No splits for Breen SS12

[tolis]

In 1 hour, live coverage of SS Hagfors here: Svenska rallyt 11/2 11:40 - Motor | SVT Play (http://svtplay.se/v/2703133/motor/svenska_rallyt_11_2_11_40?cb%2Ca1364159%2C1%2Cf%2C-1%2Fpb%2Ca1364158%2C1%2Cf%2C-1%2Fpl%2Cv%2C%2C2703369%2Fsb%2Cp104183%2C1%2Cf%2C-1)

[Rally Hokkaido]

Breen's completed the stage - no probs

[Brother John]

In 1 hour, live coverage of SS Hagfors here: Svenska rallyt 11/2 11:40 - Motor | SVT Play (http://svtplay.se/v/2703133/motor/svenska_rallyt_11_2_11_40?cb%2Ca1364159%2C1%2Cf%2C-1%2Fpb%2Ca1364158%2C1%2Cf%2C-1%2Fpl%2Cv%2C%2C2703369%2Fsb%2Cp104183%2C1%2Cf%2C-1)

Probably no live coverage. First car will not start until 12:03 at Hagfors Sprint 1.
We get maybe other images of today to see during the broadcast of 20 minutes.

[Goren]

Breen's completed the stage - no probs


No worries

[Rallyper]

It's a joke, You know what I mean miksu.

Tanak is from Estonia...isn´t he? ;)

[A FONDO]

That Tidemand , I thought he's yeat another slow son but looks quite fast and consistent. And Paddon is making very good debut. Very interesting battle in class 2 :) But McRae is a real shame as expected.

[Doon]

did anybody record motorstv's day1 preview ?

edit: I found em! 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNB4pWi9jQw ; 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf3vp6k-QrE

Just watching it, and Colin Clark called Karlstad SSS, the Carlsberg Super Stage.....ha ha if Carlsberg did Rallying! Carlsberg is probably the worlds worst lager so it's version of the WRC would be in a bigger mess than currently if even possible.

[A FONDO]

Just watching it, and Colin Clark called Karlstad SSS, the Carlsberg Super Stage.....ha ha if Carlsberg did Rallying! Carlsberg is probably the worlds worst lager so it's version of the WRC would be in a bigger mess than currently if even possible.
I missed that, because after a couple of "HOUvonen" I just hit the mute. This idiot can make the hardest fans give up this sport!

[Rallyper]

Is Loeb only securing points already??

[A.F.F.]

Is Loeb only securing points already??

Since yesterday ....

[A.F.F.]

Mikko has great second split .... full attack on Latvala !!!

[MikeD]

Is Loeb only securing points already??

Nope - not until he has HSolberg's 6th position. Then I think he will settle for the points...

[Miika]

..but again JML closing in the gap at the end of the stage it seems.

[A.F.F.]

Hirvonen takes this stage !!!

[awake27]

What is happening to Petter? Submitted to no.2 driver this day? Looks to me this year he will be what Hirvonen was to Gronholm some years back. What a pity. In order to get a factory car to bow down like Ronnie Peterson did in 1978 to Andretti and Chapman.

[ridder]

What is happening to Petter? Submitted to no.2 driver this day? Looks to me this year he will be what Hirvonen was to Gronholm some years back. What a pity. In order to get a factory car to bow down like Ronnie Peterson did in 1978 to Andretti and Chapman.

He actually signed as nr.2 driver. Wilson explicitly stated that if Petter is ahead of Latvala and there's no driver between them he has to let him ahead.
Anyway in the past few years, Latvala and Hirvonen have been clearly fastest in Sweden, not even Loeb could beat them. This year the story seems to continue.

He should be able to beat Østberg, though Sweden has been the best rally of the year for Mads in the last years.

[Iskald]

Ladycup champ is still hunting for Ogier. Sliced more than half the lead on this one. Go, Andreas!

[awake27]

Ok no.2 to Latvala got it, but when he is behind he has to drive like a granny like Hirvonen in 06-07? He started the day just 2 secs off to 2nd place damn it.

[sollitt]

... like Ronnie Peterson did in 1978 to Andretti and Chapman.Hmmm, Ronnie Peterson, probably the most talented driver ever to steer a Formula 1 car. And robbed of just reward by team orders as you say.
But that's a discussion for another forum.
Petter is not in Petersons league.

[miksu]

He probably has to secure podium and drive safely if JM or Mikko crash out, and it might happen. Mads is closing though...

[Langdale Forest]

He actually signed as nr.2 driver. Wilson explicitly stated that if Petter is ahead of Latvala and there's no driver between them he has to let him ahead.


What if Petter is ahead of Latvala in the championship, it would be stupid to swap positions then?

[ridder]

Hmmm, Ronnie Peterson, probably the most talented driver ever to steer a Formula 1 car. And robbed of just reward by team orders as you say.
But that's a discussion for another forum.
Petter is not in Petersons league.

I guess not....
Peterson: 2nd in championship 2 times, 3rd once.
Solberg: 1st in championship once, 2nd 3 times, 3rd once.

Peterson was for some years fastest by raw speed, well Solberg was that as well in 2004. Peterson was hampered by the team, Solberg certainly was hampered by the subaru from 2005 on.

All in all, it's very hard to compare, but what can be compared certainly doesn't give background for talks about different league.

[Mirek]

My video from day 1 :)
Swedish Rally Day 1 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/36572054)

Mega place the last one! :)

[Mirek]

Ladycup champ is still hunting for Ogier. Sliced more than half the lead on this one. Go, Andreas!

Ogier had a puncture now. But of course it's part of the game like spin of Andreas yesterday.

[Mirek]

Did someone notice that DMack (Aasen) is doing actually much better today than yesterday?

[Viking]

I'm afraid we will see more punctures this afternoon...

[N.O.T]

I think Loeb can still catch Novikov....

Lets hope Hirvonen doesn't give up yet...

Ogier seems to control the ladycup champion...

[Gard]

Is Ogier already starting a big rivalry with his team mate? This was the reason he had to leave Citroen. So now he starts to f... up his VW-deal.

Looks like all his focus is on Mikkelsen. Would Ogier ever be able to contribute, so the pair of them will do their best. Even for a #1 driver, you have to be a team player and do what's best for the team as a whole. Staring to wonder if his ego is too big.

[N.O.T]

LOL...

Team-mate ??? when did VW offered the ladycup champ a contract ??

Also what ogier must do ? let mikkelsen pass him to prove his good manners ??

LOL or to put in in the proper context...

LooooooooooooooL

[N.O.T]

Is Ogier already starting a big rivalry with his team mate? This was the reason he had to leave Citroen. So now he starts to f... up his VW-deal.


also Ogier was second fiddle in citroen...in VW he is the boss so if someone gets the boot its going to be the second driver...not Ogier...same like Loeb.

LooooooooooooL

[Brother John]

Citroen's tactics or from S. Loeb on SS14 Hagfors Sprint 1? or maybe Latvala here makes a mistake with just looking at the split times of Hirvonen?

[wildboar]

First ever stage win for Tanak.

[Francis44]

Is Ogier already starting a big rivalry with his team mate? This was the reason he had to leave Citroen. So now he starts to f... up his VW-deal.

Looks like all his focus is on Mikkelsen. Would Ogier ever be able to contribute, so the pair of them will do their best. Even for a #1 driver, you have to be a team player and do what's best for the team as a whole. Staring to wonder if his ego is too big.

Relax.... Mikkelsen still has a lot to improve. This is the rally where he's likely to do better, he's a specialist on this surface after all, like Ogier was in Monte Carlo.

If Mikkelsen was in MC he'd be way off Ogier.

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for this afternoon second loop of stages :cool:
Go Mikko !!! :bounce:

[Viking]

LOL...

Team-mate ??? when did VW offered the ladycup champ a contract ??



;)

[Elkoorps]

Can't wait for this afternoon second loop of stages :cool:
Go Mikko !!! :bounce:
I don't know who to support out of the Fins, I know Miko probably has a better chance than JML at beating Loeb overall and he has more points than JML already, but JML is such a likable guy because of his attitude and his pure speed, and plus I much prefer ford over Citroen :rolleyes:

[A.F.F.]

I'm very happy about two things so far. Mikko has found his killer attitude.. to be honest, Sweden is among two rallies Hirvonen really has it. But he is really pushing and like what I see.

And Latvala has not lost his self confidence which helps him be fast but also consistent. I hope both gentlemen find the finishline without superrally and we get white and blue top two podium for a loooong time :D

[Viking]

First loop

Latvala
Hirvonen +1.8
Østberg +14.8
Solberg P +21.3
Novikov +34.3
Loeb +34.6

[Wim_Impreza]

I'm very happy about two things so far. Mikko has found his killer attitude.. to be honest, Sweden is among two rallies Hirvonen really has it. But he is really pushing and like what I see.

And Latvala has not lost his self confidence which helps him be fast but also consistent. I hope both gentlemen find the finishline without superrally and we get white and blue top two podium for a loooong time :D

You already have forgotten the WRC Australia round last year, Jani?

[Miika]

Who wouldn´t want to forget Australia 2011?..

At least is has been a long time since two Finns driving for dirrerent teams have taken a 1-2 win in the podium - already about ten years since than has happened?

[Sulland]

LOL...Team-mate ??? when did VW offered the ladycup champ a contract ??

They are team mates for this rally at least, and both of them enjoying driving a top spec Fabia S2000 i guess !

[Francis44]

I hope Latvala wins this.... It's important not only to boost his championship hopes but also his confidence.

[Viking]

On stages

Ogier 8-6 Mikkelsen

I think VW is pleased with both drivers preformences, Ogier was 4th here last year and won 3 stages (including the powerstage).
If the boys sat in top cars (Polo?) VW would have drivers compiting for podium at least.
Yeah I know if, if :)

[JAM]

If Latvala won't fail, we will win the rally. But only if he won't fail. Don't see Hirvonen as the guy to catch him.

By the way, anyone called Loeb of irresponsible by had an off on the first leg of the rally? Everybody complaining from Latvala in MC, and what to say about Loeb? Is the same situation, but more lucky to Loeb (as usual) because was able to return to the road.

[Tom206wrc]

SS15 running ;)
1'10 penalty to Araujo...Neuville and Andersson should pass 13th and 14th...

[bluuford]

Nobres dot is standind still at the same corner as OLEKSOWICZ during the first run

[Elkoorps]

Why 1:10 penalty? 7 minutes late out of service? wow.....

[Tom206wrc]

GPS problem for Nobre :confused:

[Viking]

I have to say the same as others here, improved RallyRadio. More Rally, less music,food talk, bugs, bears, hairstyles.....

[Tom206wrc]

No Nobre at end SS15 :mark:

[Andre Oliveira]

Armindo had to replace the exhaust manifold that was broken.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Paulo possible spin and stuck in snow - crew now pushing the car?!

[bluuford]

Nobre still in the same spot, stopped, Araujo just passed him

[Tom206wrc]

Chronos frozen ??? :s

[N.O.T]

Who cares about Nobre ? as long as he is ok then he can go have a beer....he is a nobody.

[N.O.T]

Chronos frozen ??? :s

only the splits the cars finish normally...

[N.O.T]

Ogier faster than Tanak so far ...

[bluuford]

Sandell just passed Araujo in stage.. problem for Araujo?

[N.O.T]

Neuville 2 minutes behind Ogier in a s2000 car with 1.5 days still to go....

Ladycup drivers......

[bluuford]

Ogier faster than Tanak so far ...
Tänak lost some time because Nobres car was partly blocking the road..and now he is first on the road :-)

[Tom206wrc]

8" between Loeb and Henning on penultimate split ;)

[N.O.T]

8" between Loeb and Henning on penultimate split ;)

with no problems Loeb will go past Novikov before the end of the day...or be very close.

[Iskald]

LOL...

Team-mate ??? when did VW offered the ladycup champ a contract ??

Also what ogier must do ? let mikkelsen pass him to prove his good manners ??

LOL or to put in in the proper context...

LooooooooooooooL

You may laugh as much as you wish, but there are things in this sport you have absolutely no knowledge of...

[dimviii]

Sandell and Loeb half minute faster from morning pass

[Gard]

LOL...

Team-mate ??? when did VW offered the ladycup champ a contract ??

Also what ogier must do ? let mikkelsen pass him to prove his good manners ??

LOL or to put in in the proper context...

LooooooooooooooL

I'm talking about Ogier, not Mikkelsen. Ogiers behavior should not be accepted. By the way, Mikkelsen also have a contract with VW.

Bad behavior will always get the boot, regardless of your driving skills. Wonder how long VW will put up with him. If Ogier doesn't stop his stupidity, he'll be out of VW before the end of 2013.

[dimviii]

Loeb 0,6 behind Henning now

[N.O.T]

You may laugh as much as you wish, but there are things in this sport you have absolutely no knowledge of...

of course...same as everyone....but in a much lesser degree...

[dimviii]

Latvala -3,3 at 3rd split from Mikko

[Viking]

Petter said he tried to preserve his tyres "let us see who will have tyres on the later stages"

[Mauri A]

You may laugh as much as you wish, but there are things in this sport you have absolutely no knowledge of...

Agreed, the number of sent posts does not prove that you understand what it is all about!

[Rallyper]

Mikkelsen flying...

[A FONDO]

Petter said he tried to preserve his tyres "let us see who will have tyres on the later stages"
:D

[danon]

Neuville 2 minutes behind Ogier in a s2000 car with 1.5 days still to go....

Ladycup drivers......

Wearing spectacles is always an obstacle. A hard time for Neuville ahead...

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/dsc_0210.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

What an attack between Latvala and Hirvonen !!!! 0"1 gap after 24km full speed in snow :eek:

[bluuford]

Nobre is moving by the way, just a few seconds behind Burger

[Viking]

Wonder if not Latvalas 13:02.6 113.3 km/h is a new stage record for the classic Vargasen stage.. :up:

[danon]

A short vid break...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQQaZoEZKN8&feature=player_embedded

[Tom206wrc]

Bring on SS16 now, please !!! :)

[bluuford]

Aasen is now stopped just a little bit before Split 4 on a very long left corner

[Barreis]

Should Latvala go off?

[tfp]

Damn Ive missed all the action! Good to see tanak with a stage win!

What hapened with Ogier? Why is everyone annoyed with him?

Latvala still up front, when that guy is on a roll, he is unstoppable...

[bassist]

Come on Petter, stop messing about and `floor` it!

[A FONDO]

What hapened with Ogier? Why is everyone annoyed with him?
coz here are many short-sighted norwegians :arrows:

[Viking]

coz here are many short-sighted norwegians :arrows:

Thank you! Well not me, I think Ogier is one of the best drivers in the world! And an good messure for how good Mikkelsen is :)

[tfp]

coz here are many short-sighted norwegians :arrows:

What hapenned??
Looking forward to seeing the rally on Motors TV again tonight :cool:

[danon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oFZsLf4W5Q

[danon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS40RdJP8m8

[Tom206wrc]

SS16 just started :cool: