2011 Rallye de France , looking for info...

[N.O.T]

All hell broke loose !!!

GO Minis !!!!!!!!!!!

The championship is going to be crazy at its finale if results remain !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[focus206]

Mikko doesn't seem so fast on SS4 :\

[Mintexmemory]

Petter looking good on early split, think he might be getting very interested! (cue re-map of engine at service if getting too close to Ogier!)

[N.O.T]

Crazy attack by Latvala ....

[Mintexmemory]

I bet when Seb Loeb stopped his first thought was: "Damn, I've messed up the forum guy's pick 'ems" :)
Very magnanimous of him but it was Hanninen I'm concerned about as I took him over Tanak (both weighted the same coefficient) However I've got Sordo, Meeke and Mini in my 2 drivers and WRC team pick -woo hoo!

[focus206]

What a time by Latvala!

[Mintexmemory]

Crazy attack by Latvala ....

Has to be now, Ford's only hope is to get Ogier into a fight for the win and hope for a mistake - and then JML lets Mikko pass again -doh!

[N.O.T]

too early for all that speculation.....

[N.O.T]

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. Didn't start into SS. Reported went off on road section when heating tyres.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Mintexmemory]

:crazy: It's never too early for speculation - we're rally fans the whole sport runs on ifs, buts and maybes!

[noel157]

Very magnanimous of him but it was Hanninen I'm concerned about as I took him over Tanak (both weighted the same coefficient) However I've got Sordo, Meeke and Mini in my 2 drivers and WRC team pick -woo hoo!

Wise choice.

[N.O.T]

Slowson is a pathetic little human being.....makes me sick.

[MikeD]

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. Didn't start into SS. Reported went off on road section when heating tyres.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

We were kind of waiting for you to find out (see previous posts) :D

[Mintexmemory]

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. Didn't start into SS. Reported went off on road section when heating tyres.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Jesus H Christ Keep up NOT that was ages ago!!!

[AP-Racing]

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. Didn't start into SS. Reported went off on road section when heating tyres.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

MegaLOL

[kakus]

No restart for Loeb. Engine HS

[N.O.T]

Jesus H Christ Keep up NOT that was ages ago!!!

i am the only Greek who is working trying to save the country from bankruptcy...thats why i was late.

[rallye-sport]

Ungersberg stage : Photos Rallye de France 2011 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-de-france-2011/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/alsace-2011-arno/9dykoi8-0-1a6848i70rv34n29.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/alsace-2011-arno/41.jpg

[focus206]

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. Didn't start into SS. Reported went off on road section when heating tyres.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Everyone was waiting for your comment on this :D

[Mintexmemory]

i am the only Greek who is working trying to save the country from bankruptcy...thats why i was late.
;) ;) ;) ;) :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

Two words: "OH KIMI"

bahahaha

Shame :(

[N.O.T]

Glad to see that drivers think poles are STUPID....

road preservation

LOL

[N.O.T]

no more splits....hmmm

[rage82]

Hey what's going on with the stage times for ss4 after Mads? Does any of you has any information

[Sulland]

i am the only Greek who is working trying to save the country from bankruptcy...thats why i was late.

Hmm, that was actually funny ! '
Feel for the Greeks these days !

[GINE]

No splits, no stage times no rally radio? What is going on? I hope no accident

[N.O.T]

I really like how things go with the mini....hope BMW sees that as well and takes the efford more seriously.

Good comeback from Prodrive.

[N.O.T]

Hmm, that was actually funny ! '
Feel for the Greeks these days !

you should not...everybody gets what they deserve in life...

[noel157]

Great splits from Meeke.

[rage82]

Very nice stage time for Dani. He's only 6.6 sec behind the Ogier now.

[GINE]

What a time by Sordo also! He seems to go for the victory

[banksy87]

Well this is certainly entertaining me in the office on Friday. Crazy wrc morning and one that blows the title open! Its too unpredictable but an Ogier Loeb Hirvonen straight fight in the Welsh stages would be nice!!

Back to France and hello Mr.Sordo, welcome to the fight for the win! 2nd fastest on SS4 and now only 6.6sec cover to 3! Its on!

[N.O.T]

Ogier must now push....very exciting rally....despite Latvala and Loeb are out of contention.

[Francis44]

So Loeb no restart?! This can make the championship even more exciting now. If Ogier wins and scores extra 3 points from the powerstage is right up there with Loeb. Same goes for Hirvonnen, he only needs 16 points and he is up there with Loeb.

[Mintexmemory]

Looking like this is going to be very exciting, Great time from Sordo!!

[focus206]

Ogier must watch his back from Petter and expecially from Sordo! If nobody retires or make mistakes, I think Ford can achieve only 4th & 5th place, but it's still the first day, and anything can happen!

[N.O.T]

It is also very interesting to see what Citroen will do for the drivers championship in Spain...if things remain as they are Ogier could be 1 point behind Loeb going into Spain...

[Mintexmemory]

Ogier must watch his back from Petter and expecially from Sordo! If nobody retires or make mistakes, I think Ford can achieve only 4th & 5th place, but it's still the first day, and anything can happen!

I think Mini already has a position where Dani can push and Kris will be around to take up a podium if any of the 1st 3 break. Mikko just doesn't appear to have the speed and JML is going to have to set fastest times on most stages to get back into contention. Come on Mini!!!

[tolis]

Wilson slower than Block! :D

[Rallyper]

It is also very interesting to see what Citroen will do for the drivers championship in Spain...if things remain as they are Ogier could be 1 point behind Loeb going into Spain...

Well, that´s no problem as we all know. The problem is the drivers not in the Citroen team, and what they can do.

[Julle69]

New info about Kimi's retirement from MTV3. Kimi crashed with Henning, Henning has made surprise braking and Kimi crashed him....

[N.O.T]

new info about kimi's retirement from mtv3. Kimi crashed with henning, henning has made surprise braking and kimi crashed him....


looooooooooooool

[Viking]

Actually Ogier won only 1 stage here last year, Petter won 3 and Sordo won 4. It migth just be Ogier has to fight this one more than he likes.

[Mintexmemory]

looooooooooooool

So what's the Greek for schadenfreude?

[6789]

D Sordo - 7:06 on SS4. Awesome!!

[banksy87]

Craig Breen 20 secs faster than Lemes in ss3, Awesome!!

Hope he bags the win in the Academy!

[Mintexmemory]

Craig Breen 20 secs faster than Lemes in ss3, Awesome!!

Hope he bags the win in the Academy!

+1 but Crugnola to get 2nd for my fantasy predictions! (edit -who appears to have disappeared!)

[RS]

So Loeb no restart?! This can make the championship even more exciting now. If Ogier wins and scores extra 3 points from the powerstage is right up there with Loeb. Same goes for Hirvonnen, he only needs 16 points and he is up there with Loeb.

I don't know why anyone would think this is exciting. This reminds me of a few years ago when Mikko spent the whole year plodding around and nearly won the title. I'm looking forward to a time in the next couple of years when this shouldn't happen anymore when there is more competition from VW and Mini.

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen is a nobody, in Spain Sordo will eat the quitter for breakfast.

The championship is between Ogier and Loeb, if things go as they are. Citroen will employ team orders for GB to the one who is ahead after Spain.

This rally is has still too much life ahead so wait and see.

[MR666]

I don't know why anyone would think this is exciting. This reminds me of a few years ago when Mikko spent the whole year plodding around and nearly won the title. I'm looking forward to a time in the next couple of years when this shouldn't happen anymore when there is more competition from VW and Mini.

Still have to remember to finish first first you must finish.

[Gard]

Ogier must watch his back from Petter and expecially from Sordo! If nobody retires or make mistakes, I think Ford can achieve only 4th & 5th place, but it's still the first day, and anything can happen!

Don't think Ogier needs to worry about Petter. Petter wouldn't be allowed, unless Ogier does a mistake and the ford closes up. If Petter gets to close, something will happen with Petter

[cali]

What's with the times from SS4? No times after Hänninen.

[N.O.T]

So what's the Greek for schadenfreude?

hmmm

χερεκακία (chaeraekakia) is very close.

[Hartusvuori]

What's with the times from SS4? No times after Hänninen.

7.30,4. Ott's faster on splits.

[cali]

7.30,4. Ott's faster on splits.
Yeah, but no final time for Ott or anyone after him. Strange

[bluuford]

I think WRC.com is collecting all his resources to build up today´s video broadcast..all the results are frozen for quite a long already.

[RS]

Still have to remember to finish first first you must finish.

Yes, but Mikko doesn't do that very often either. My point is that because there is still not very much competition at the moment then if the Citroens have problems then Mikko (or whoever) will really benefit big time because there is nobody else there to fill the gap. Imagine Ford pulled out next year but Stobart continued... then probably Henning and Wilslow could be "battling for the championship"

[Hartusvuori]

Yeah, but no final time for Ott or anyone after him. Strange

Now the times are there. Ott's 3,4s faster than Juho.

[cali]

Now the times are there. Ott's 3,4s faster than Juho.
Finally! Thanks.

[MR666]

Yes, but Mikko doesn't do that very often either. My point is that because there is still not very much competition at the moment then if the Citroens have problems then Mikko (or whoever) will really benefit big time because there is nobody else there to fill the gap. Imagine Ford pulled out next year but Stobart continued... then probably Henning and Wilslow could be "battling for the championship"

Point taken lol

[Mintexmemory]

OK at the current pace (without any more car problems) Juho should be back in 4th place after the next 2 stages. He should be able to catch Brynildsen (edit sorry meant Prokop) too - so still advantage Juho for the championship.

[bluuford]

I just realized that if Ogier wins the rally and powerstage, he gets +28 points, then he has 195 points in total, Loeb has 196 points in total, when Mikko finishes the rally in fourth place (quite realistic) and maybe collects one point from the powerstage, then he has 194 points. So, then we have three drivers in 3 points.

[N.O.T]

I just realized that if Ogier wins the rally and powerstage, he gets +28 points, then he has 195 points in total, Loeb has 196 points in total, when Mikko finishes the rally in fourth place (quite realistic) and maybe collects one point from the powerstage, then he has 194 points. So, then we have three drivers in 3 points.

its going to be a crazy finale in the UK.....If all stay on the road in spain.

[N.O.T]

Campana a waste of resources once more....

[MikeD]

Still have to remember to finish first first you must finish.

True, but to be champion you must also deserve it and Hirvonen for sure don't ... and he wont win it either anyway.

[MikeD]

Don't think Ogier needs to worry about Petter. Petter wouldn't be allowed, unless Ogier does a mistake and the ford closes up. If Petter gets to close, something will happen with Petter

Citroën needs Petter in top 2 to protect Ford from getting to many points in both championship - they will give him an offer he can't refuse to stay second - or to win if Ogier messes up.

[bluuford]

Solberg has the best chance to win a rally now. Ogier must run under very strict orders to finish the rally. When something happens to him, then Ford can collect 33 points and there is another championship open (+29 points before two final rounds if something happens with Ogier). Never say never and nothing is over before it is over.

[mm1]

There`s no potential in Campana, some good stage times on his home ground and that`s it.

[Whinlatter]

Elfyn Evans finding his pace in the R2 Fiesta now, only being outpaced by Breen and Lemes of the Academy drivers.

[Hartusvuori]

Did anyone catch Hänninen's interview in WRR? Finnish forum is quoting him saying that it was one of those anti-cutting poles that pierced the puncture that forced him to stop on SS3 to change the tyre.

Again - I understand the purpose of anti-cutting poles but they're done wrong.

[Marre]

True, but to be champion you must also deserve it and Hirvonen for sure don't ... and he wont win it either anyway.

if you have the most points at the end of the season you deserve it, doesnt matter if you havent won a single rally. that is just my opinion. N.O.T and you aparently hate Hirvonen :o , but im cheering for him all the way.

[N.O.T]

whoever wins it...deserves it (part from that useless joke biasion)...the thing is that hirvonen doesn't have the speed, and i doubt that Loeb and ogier will crash for 4 events in a row.

Last time Loeb and hirvonen fought for the championship in the UK...hirvonen was beaten like a sick dog without an owner, Loeb crippled his spirit.

[Marre]

whoever wins it...deserves it (part from that useless joke biasion)...the thing is that hirvonen doesn't have the speed, and i doubt that Loeb and ogier will crash for 4 events in a row.

Last time Loeb and hirvonen fought for the championship in the UK...hirvonen was beaten like a sick dog without an owner, Loeb crippled his spirit.

i didnt say he is going to win, just that i hope he does, you dont need to get so upset, think about your heart ;)

[rage82]

Live broadcast is now on, but the sound is very low

[focus206]

Live broadcast works to me, but the sound is very low...

EDIT: now sounds fine

[rage82]

Now the sound is OK, and the quality of the picture is nice

[MR666]

Now the sound is OK, and the quality of the picture is nice

Now if we could just hear from the people they are talking to in the video lol

[6789]

My stream has stopped, anyone got it working still?

[rage82]

Now if we could just hear from the people they are talking to in the video lol
Yes would be a very nice addition :)

[rage82]

Mine is OK

[MR666]

English has rally radio as sound and French has the interviews as sound.

[6789]

Mine is OK
ALright. mine is just slow, hope it comes good

[dimviii]

Just come back from work.......WTF!!!
championship starts all over again! n i c e !
Ogier must collect max points in France,but it will not be easy with Sordo pushing.Maybe Fords will be again lucky if Sordo push Ogier to a mistake.
rallying is magic!!

[rubla]

i am the only Greek who is working trying to save the country from bankruptcy...thats why i was late.

Good one :D

[Hartusvuori]

SS5 is live. Stream works fine here.

[Sulland]

Where do you get the streamfeed from ?

[mm1]

wrc.com

[JTGANG]

It is fantastic to watch it live !!!!

[dimviii]

:eek: :vader:
OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. (st. č. 2) "I don't know, just I heard strange noise.

[tolis]

Where do you get the streamfeed from ?
Live stage coverage: http://wrcpaywall.appspot.com/static/player.html

[tfp]

Wow! Title fight is wide open again! I really hope loebs seemingly endless streak of luck is finally over...Roll on tomorrow when i'm not at work and can see what these live stages are like!
Has any times come through for stage 5?

[AP-Racing]

:eek: :vader:
OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. (st. č. 2) "I don't know, just I heard strange noise.

It's Loeb spirit screaming in his ears :)

[tfp]

It is fantastic to watch it live !!!!

Thats right, rub it in:-)

[dimviii]

It's Loeb spirit screaming in his ears :)


lololololol!!! good one Ap!

[jonkka]

Spectators are allowed in crazy places...

[dimviii]

Spectators are allowed in crazy places...

+1

[focus206]

SS6 started

[Mintexmemory]

Latvala faster than Ogier, what a shame he blew it earlier as it looks like he finally has the tarmac pace

[Hartusvuori]

Kris Meeke furious after corner-marking pole nearly ends his Rally of France - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94937)

[dimviii]

Latvala faster than Ogier, what a shame he blew it earlier as it looks like he finally has the tarmac pace

Always Fords are fast on tarmac when Citroen cruising.

[focus206]

Great time by Petter also... Mikko instead not :\

[Mintexmemory]

Always Fords are fast on tarmac when Citroen cruising.

I don't believe Ogier is cruising with Petter and Dani breathing down his neck!! He cant afford to keep losing >2 sec per stage ;-)

[dimviii]

about Loebs restart

Sebastien Loeb unlikely to restart in France as Citroen fears engine risk - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94935)

[Mirek]

I really wish Sordo could win this rally!

[dimviii]

Dani equal with Petter!! Bravo!

[focus206]

When the car goes trough the wood, the stream always stops to me :(

[Mintexmemory]

I really wish Sordo could win this rally!

+1 - with KM on the podium too!!

[dimviii]

I don't believe Ogier is cruising with Petter and Dani breathing down his neck!! He cant afford to keep losing >2 sec per stage ;-)

You really think that Petter can challenge Ogier in asphalt? Just remember in Germany when both Sebs were pushing.

[Mintexmemory]

You really think that Petter can challenge Ogier in asphalt? Just remember in Germany when both Sebs were pushing.

If you believe that Petter now has a better engine than Germany then possibly so. Ogier has to be going as fast as he can to build up a margine for error, he cannot afford to be doing just enough when there are still 17 stages to go and no benefit from not being 1st on the road

[focus206]

Van Merksteijn Jr stopped.
Mikko have to push harder if he wants to catch at least Meeke, he gained only 0.1s in SS6...

[Viking]

You really think that Petter can challenge Ogier in asphalt? Just remember in Germany when both Sebs were pushing.

I think Petter can yes! if his car, team, lack of testing, lack of anti-cutting pole removing team ;) can? not so sure...

[dimviii]

If you believe that Petter now has a better engine than Germany then possibly so. Ogier has to be going as fast as he can to build up a margine for error, he cannot afford to be doing just enough when there are still 17 stages to go and no benefit from not being 1st on the road

Again remember Germany?
He haven t got to push hard.He is already 1st.He needs to control the pace and not to push for making a big gap.

[Mintexmemory]

Again remember Germany?
He haven t got to push hard.He is already 1st.He needs to control the pace and not to push for making a big gap.

We shall see after stage 7!

[noel157]

Watching the live stream but no proper sound, only get RR??? Anybody else?

[dimviii]

10 minutes for the long stage

[Leon]

Watching the live stream but no proper sound, only get RR??? Anybody else?

same for me and is very annoying

[MikeD]

if you have the most points at the end of the season you deserve it, doesnt matter if you havent won a single rally. that is just my opinion.

But for sure not my opinion. Points are only a little part of making a champion. The highest level of motorsport now and then has to suffer from a poor champion. In F1 it has been Mike Hawthorn in 1958, Mario Andretti in 1978, Keke Rosberg 1982 and Jacques Villeneuve in 1997. In MotoGP it was Nicky Hayden in 2006 and Keny Roberts Jr in 2000. What they have in common are that lucky one year and in the rest of their career, they were always beaten.


N.O.T and you aparently hate Hirvonen :o , but im cheering for him all the way.

I don't hate Hirvonen, I just don't think he's worthy of being Champion ... sinmple as that

[dimviii]

We shall see after stage 7!
There is no need to see after stage 7.
stage 6 was the same as stage 2. Sordo and Petter were faster at second pass than in 1st pass.So road condition no bad.
Ogier while he had won at stage 2,when pepeated he was slower by 4,1 sec.
Petter was faster at second pass 2,1 sec and Sordo 1,5
Thats why i said cruising mode.

[Viking]

But for sure not my opinion. Points are only a little part of making a champion. The highest level of motorsport now and then has to suffer from a poor champion. In F1 it has been Mike Hawthorn in 1958, Mario Andretti in 1978, Keke Rosberg 1982 and Jacques Villeneuve in 1997. In MotoGP it was Nicky Hayden in 2006 and Keny Roberts Jr in 2000. What they have in common are that lucky one year and in the rest of their career, they were always beaten.



I don't hate Hirvonen, I just don't think he's worthy of being Champion ... sinmple as that

So what to do? have an jury giving the championship to the most worthy??

If Mikko wins it he is worthy! And it is not like he is some spoiled brat getting the best car that a monkey could win with...

[wwbroe]

Hold your breath guys, Mikko is not yet able to be the champion. Let's wait discussing this matter untill the time they are at almost equal points, wich is not yet now.

[irish_tiger]

But for sure not my opinion. Points are only a little part of making a champion. The highest level of motorsport now and then has to suffer from a poor champion. In F1 it has been Mike Hawthorn in 1958, Mario Andretti in 1978, Keke Rosberg 1982 and Jacques Villeneuve in 1997. In MotoGP it was Nicky Hayden in 2006 and Keny Roberts Jr in 2000. What they have in common are that lucky one year and in the rest of their career, they were always beaten.



I don't hate Hirvonen, I just don't think he's worthy of being Champion ... sinmple as that

Mmm you could be correct ..... but it would be nice to see some else win . Would you not think that Peter was a bit lucky in 2003 when Carlos's car stopped for 30 odd seconds in Spain that year and he got a few extra points ?

[wwbroe]

Look at Petter's time at splits

[6789]

Petter 5.8 faster than Mikko at split 3!!

[wwbroe]

Ogier is reacting now, he is now suddenly 3.3 sec faster as Mikko.

[dimviii]

Ogier is reacting now, he is now suddenly 3.3 sec faster as Mikko.

it is obvious that he controls the rally without risking

[wwbroe]

Or is it just Hirvonen being so slow, if you look at JML's split times you should think like that.

[N.O.T]

the coverage is very nice....although it cuts off from time to time.

[N.O.T]

Mikko is useless....

[dimviii]

Or is it just Hirvonen being so slow, if you look at JML's split times you should think like that.

Yes Ogier being 3rd at road he knows only Mikkos splits ''in time''.To know the splits from crews behind him he has to wait some time(2 min differences from start) When he knew Latvalas/Petters splits he reacted.
Mikko of course is very slow another more time.

[noel157]

the coverage is very nice....although it cuts off from time to time.

It's good, it's free (at the moment) so can't complain. Yep, I get cuts too.

[focus206]

Can't explain why Mikko is so much slow :\

[Viking]

Ogier playing mind games...

[N.O.T]

they only bad thing about the coverage is they have the same people as in the radio doing the coverage....

[TMorel]

Ogier bluffing about his engine concerns, paranoid or could this rally still have a fair few twists and turns to give.
Am really enjoying this coverage, and a ver'pretty event to boot !

[Mirek]

Ogier again complains about the engine. Let's wait and see if it lasts whole rally...

[N.O.T]

Solberg in the lead...

[focus206]

Petter is in the lead!

[N.O.T]

Ostberg hit something the car is all over the place....

[N.O.T]

the covrage is barely watchable with those radio people talking all the time......its off for me. Bring the eurosport guys in.

[bretddog]

Maybe Ogier's engine is set to "safe mode" to avoid duplicate of Loeb's problem, hence not risk the Manu title? Or did we hear any details of Loebs engine failure yet?

[mm1]

I don`t like it also, if I wanted rally radio, I would have switched it on. Not very usefull info from them.

[N.O.T]

rally radio offers nothing with those people they have....

[dimviii]

switched off also for me.

[Mintexmemory]

There is no need to see after stage 7.
stage 6 was the same as stage 2. Sordo and Petter were faster at second pass than in 1st pass.So road condition no bad.
Ogier while he had won at stage 2,when pepeated he was slower by 4,1 sec.
Petter was faster at second pass 2,1 sec and Sordo 1,5
Thats why i said cruising mode.

So I suppose that Ogier has now cruised to 2nd place and will soon cruise to 3rd unless he steps it up, I would suggest your summation of the situation is flawed, the top 3 will all be going flat out as is Latvala. Road position is actually worse as more cars traverse the non-existent cuts. When Sordo is running higher in the order tomorrow he will be quicker still

[Leon]

someone tell WRR people to sh@@ up for time to time. its getting very annoying

[N.O.T]

the rally is still long...we have to wait and see....

I want sordo to win this !!!

[tolis]

Goooooo Petter!!!

[N.O.T]

someone tell WRR people to sh@@ up for time to time. its getting very annoying

they are plain useless....never seen people talking all the time without any meaning...

its a waste of those 500.000 when you have such annoying individuals spoiling the very good video coverage.

[tolis]

Loeb in the retirements list:
World Rally Championship - Results - Rallye de France Alsace (http://www.wrc.com/results/2011/rallye-de-france/retirements/)
Does that mean that he won't start tomorrow?

[Mintexmemory]

Loeb in the retirements list:
World Rally Championship - Results - Rallye de France Alsace (http://www.wrc.com/results/2011/rallye-de-france/retirements/)
Does that mean that he won't start tomorrow?

Yes.

[Viking]

Sordo will lead after day1 if we uses the stagetimes from this morning on the last stage...

[Mintexmemory]

Meeke splits good again, he should be 4th on the road tomorrow and be quicker as a result -should have enough then to hold off JML

[Viking]

...never seen people talking all the time without any meaning... .

I once had an girlfriend....

[N.O.T]

I once had an girlfriend....

lol...

[focus206]

Araujo and Kuipers are not doing bad... but Wilson is being beaten even by Block...

[N.O.T]

Slowson apart from being a great driver is also a great developer....he used the old dumpers in his ford because he had this brilliant idea that he would be better in france after his amazing germany run...

The guy is a disgrace..I hope he quits and takes both block and Kimi with him.

The sport will be far better then.

[dimviii]

So I suppose that Ogier has now cruised to 2nd place and will soon cruise to 3rd unless he steps it up, I would suggest your summation of the situation is flawed, the top 3 will all be going flat out as is Latvala. Road position is actually worse as more cars traverse the non-existent cuts. When Sordo is running higher in the order tomorrow he will be quicker still

it is not so difficult to understant what is hapening via splits.
At split No3 Ogier still slower than the slowest wanna be champion by 0,4.
Split 3 is after 5,37 min. So after 5,37 minutes have started the ss Latvala and Petter(2 min and 4 min start behind Ogier)At this time Ogier know first splits from Jari and Petter.
Suddenly Ogier became fast as Latvala and Petter.
Ignore the first 3 splits and just calculate the rest till the finish.You will be surprised from your calculator.
More simple i really can t explain it.

[Hartusvuori]

Räikkönen won't superrally, says MTV3.fi.

[tolis]

Räikkönen won't superrally, says MTV3.fi.
He is also in the retirements list, like Loeb, so he won't start. :(

[N.O.T]

Räikkönen won't superrally, says MTV3.fi.

good news..good riddance.

[wwbroe]

Petter is staying in front of Ogier, let's wait for Sordo's time

[wwbroe]

Sordo's splits are looking good for sure.

[wwbroe]

Wilson is more and more a big disgrace for the sport

[wwbroe]

I think a Mini will be in the lead of a WRC rally :D

[wwbroe]

Yes!!! SORDO in the lead of the rally, what a day for Mini and Prodrive

[Gregor-y]

Colin seems to be having a fit. I got in to work just in time for the last stage.
Why couldn't Prodrive get the last few Imprezas to work that well? :mad:

[pete c]

yehaa, sordo leads

[Mirek]

Go Sordo go! :D

[N.O.T]

Goooooooooo Miniiiiiiiiiiiiii

Good Job prodrive !!!!!

Really happy for the team....and i was the one saying they would be slower than s2000 cars after seeing their testing videos....hope they find gravel performance soon also.

[Allyc85]

Woohoo come on mini! :D :D :D :D :D

[Mintexmemory]

I think a Mini will be in the lead of a WRC rally :D

Yesssss!!!!

[Bartek]

My God!! What is happening today is better than good sex ! :) fingers crossed for Sordo!

[noel157]

Goooooooooo Miniiiiiiiiiiiiii

Good Job prodrive !!!!!

Really happy for the team....and i was the one saying they would be slower than s2000 cars after seeing their testing videos....hope they find gravel performance soon also.

Respect NOT. Good man. Wonder if any of others who said the car and Prodrive would be rubbish will appear and say something.

[N.O.T]

what an amazing day....

THIS IS RALLYING !!!

[Viking]

Goooooooooo Miniiiiiiiiiiiiii

Good Job prodrive !!!!!

Really happy for the team....and i was the one saying they would be slower than s2000 cars after seeing their testing videos....hope they find gravel performance soon also.

:up:

[Mintexmemory]

My God!! What is happening today is better than good sex ! :) fingers crossed for Sordo!

I think you need to get out more!!

[Mintexmemory]

Respect NOT. Good man. Wonder if any of others who said the car and Prodrive would be rubbish will appear and say something.

Or will those of us who could see the potential from day 1 just have a calm, smug demeanour. Kris still to come

[wwbroe]

Meeke had a high speed spin

[Brother John]

Kris Meeke had just a spin on the last stage!

[Allyc85]

Meeke very lucky there! Glad to see him continue!

[Mintexmemory]

Meeke very lucky there! Glad to see him continue!

Any particular reason you could see A? Crap on the road? JML will have moved closer to him as a reult

[Allyc85]

Couldnt see anything but Kris said there was a bit of gravel on the road. I held my breath as he spun, christ knows what he was thinking!

Time for another cider me thinks to celebrate a great day for Mini :)

[Mintexmemory]

Couldnt see anything but Kris said there was a bit of gravel on the road. I held my breath as he spun, christ knows what he was thinking!

Time for another cider me thinks to celebrate a great day for Mini :)

Enjoy mate, I'm sneaking updates via my PC at work but will be following the stream tomorrow, Ogier retiring so Mini get both on the podium would be too much to ask I suppose?

[wwbroe]

Hanninen is not making up much time compared to Brynildssen and Prokop, so if he wants to finish second SWRC i think he must step up the rythm.

[Mirek]

Hanninen is not making up much time compared to Brynildssen and Prokop, so if he wants to finish second SWRC i think he must step up the rythm.

He made 1,5 minute on them today...

[Mintexmemory]

Hanninen is not making up much time compared to Brynildssen and Prokop, so if he wants to finish second SWRC i think he must step up the rythm.

36 seconds over 15 stages at current progress is well within his ability given how much he has already pulled back ;-)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Mini =d

[Allyc85]

Enjoy mate, I'm sneaking updates via my PC at work but will be following the stream tomorrow, Ogier retiring so Mini get both on the podium would be too much to ask I suppose?

Maybe, its a nice thought!

Sordo, Solberg, Meeke on the podium in any order would be a brilliant result to me :D

[Doon]

Well done to Dani and Mini! Good efffort.

Don't get too carried away though....it's says on Autosport that Ogier had a problem and said he was lacking speed. He thought he may have an engine problem. Hope he's saying that just because he's not in front, but I wouldn't count on it. Remember how slow Petter was in Germany, and now he's fighting for the lead?

[wwbroe]

I am pretty sure Ogier just played game and wanted to be in third, so tomorrow he will have Petter's ands Dani's splits, so that he can control easily the rally.

[N.O.T]

I am pretty sure Ogier just played game and wanted to be in third, so tomorrow he will have Petter's ands Dani's splits, so that he can control easily the rally.

and also to see the braking points of the guys in front...

[106 sport]

Go go go Dani. You deserve it.

Good Luck from Gran Canaria (Spain).

[GigiGalliNo1]

IMHO I think it's good Kimi isn't restarting.. Saves him the embarrassment for the rest of the rally...

But then again people complain he doesn't compete..

Go figure.. No body wins eh

[N.O.T]

the wrc will have 3 teams next year and 4 in 2013 so we can live without those extra few nobodies.

[N.O.T]

Kimi Raikkonen, in a semi-works Citroen, will also play no further part on the world championship counter following his crash on the road section heading to stage three. Although damage to his car could have been easily fixed, the ex-Formula One world champion is already heading home.“It’s over, Kimi has gone,” Raikkonen’s team manager Benoit Nogier said. “He preferred to stop. This is very disappointing.”


LOL...bye bye.

[BDunnell]

Kimi Raikkonen, in a semi-works Citroen, will also play no further part on the world championship counter following his crash on the road section heading to stage three. Although damage to his car could have been easily fixed, the ex-Formula One world champion is already heading home.“It’s over, Kimi has gone,” Raikkonen’s team manager Benoit Nogier said. “He preferred to stop. This is very disappointing.”


LOL...bye bye.

One thing's for sure — Kimi is no Jim Clark. Those with a bit of historical rallying knowledge will know what I'm getting at.

[Karukera]

When was the last time a sub German brand rally car lead a rally after a 1st leg, Skoda or Seat ?

[N.O.T]

One thing's for sure — Kimi is no Jim Clark. Those with a bit of historical rallying knowledge will know what I'm getting at.

whole different era...no comparison. Things were very easy and compared to today motorsport was a walk in the park.

[Josti]

When was the last time a sub German brand rally car lead a rally after a 1st leg, Skoda or Seat ?

I think neither ever led after a leg, but Armin Schwarz led Safari 2001 after 1st stage.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/939/939_rallye_de_france_alsace_2011_7c4a4c0513.jpg (http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/939/939_rallye_de_france_alsace_2011_7c4a4c0513.jpg)

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/939/939_rallye_de_france_alsace_2011_ad151ca7cf.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/939/939_rallye_de_france_alsace_2011_63d63c10fe.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/939/939_rallye_de_france_alsace_2011_768402bdfe.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/939/939_rallye_de_france_alsace_2011_1795e4a3bd.jpg

More photos from day 1 HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=939&fseason=2011)

[Mintexmemory]

whole different era...no comparison. Things were very easy and compared to today motorsport was a walk in the park.
Mmmmm much to learn have you, real men in real cars then, there were. Speak only of things of which you have no current knowledge or get a better historical perspective, yes yes! Yoda has spoken!

[N.O.T]

real men in real cars then, there were.

biggest LIE ever....

Todays drivers in every motorsport would run circles around those little rich spolied fat guys in their respective motorsport division.

Then all you needed was money...today you need money and be an athlete.

[papar007]

........
At split No3 Ogier still slower than the slowest wanna be champion by 0,4..........


Είσαι θεός!ΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑ

[BDunnell]

Todays drivers in every motorsport would run circles around those little rich spolied fat guys in their respective motorsport division.

I'm not surprised you should come up with such a response, because I doubt you are aware of the person to whom I was referring, nor why I did so.

[N.O.T]

i am very well aware of every overestimated dinasaur rally hybrid driver.....

[amaxopoulos]

why is the last stage of the french rally did not even began?
FFSA | Rallye de France Alsace - Grand National - 2011 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1590&catCourse=ral)

[tolis]

why is the last stage of the french rally did not even began?
FFSA | Rallye de France Alsace - Grand National - 2011 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1590&catCourse=ral)
It began Dimitris. First day included 4 stages. Brunson in the lead.

[amaxopoulos]

yes i just saw it,3d overall cedric robert with the ds3 2wd!!!(and behind him the rest of the 2wd french "missiles"!)

[ste898]

biggest LIE ever....

Todays drivers in every motorsport would run circles around those little rich spolied fat guys in their respective motorsport division.

Then all you needed was money...today you need money and be an athlete.

How dare you insult the legends

The drivers of today moan for doing 8 stages in a day they wouldnt have a clue how to drive in the dark with a proper car/gearbox /steering etc etc

That has got to be your most stupid post ever

[N.O.T]

How dare you insult the legends

The drivers of today moan for doing 8 stages in a day they wouldnt have a clue how to drive in the dark with a proper car/gearbox /steering etc etc

That has got to be your most stupid post ever

Looooooooooooooooool

[BDunnell]

How dare you insult the legends

The drivers of today moan for doing 8 stages in a day they wouldnt have a clue how to drive in the dark with a proper car/gearbox /steering etc etc

That has got to be your most stupid post ever

Well, to be fair, we don't know whether they would be able to do it or not, because they've never had to. However, suffice to say that I feel you can judge a true motorsport enthusiast on their attitude to the sport's history.

[N.O.T]

i am very respectful towards rallying history but i give credit where is due....those people achieved amazing things back then but they did not do anything better or worse than the champions of today.

all these people who think that they give credit to the old guys by diminishing the champions of today are just little people who fortunately they will extinct like the dinosaurs they support....

Things move forward ...you evolve or you extinct.

[BDunnell]

i am very respectful towards rallying history but i give credit where is due....those people achieved amazing things back then but they did not do anything better or worse than the champions of today.

Which is not the opinion you put forward at all. If that's you being respectful towards history, I'd hate to see you being disrespectful.



all these people who think that they give credit to the old guys by diminishing the champions of today are just little people who fortunately they will extinct like the dinosaurs they support....

Where have I, for example, ever diminished the champions of today? Far from it — I for one believe the achievements of Loeb, for example, bear comparison with any of the greats, so far ahead of the pack is he. But my comparison between the actions of Clark and Raikkonen does not fall into this category at all.



Things move forward ...you evolve or you extinct.

Quite so — but this in no way means that everything in the modern age is automatically to be praised.

[Allyc85]

Back on subject people, maybe this is for another thread ;)

[User]

Woaaa, I didn't even know we had a rally this week-end .. Read somewhere that Sordo was leading a French rally .. A preparation rally I thought, but fudge me, he's leading a WRC event! Lets hope he takes the win.

[dimviii]

I am pretty sure Ogier just played game and wanted to be in third, so tomorrow he will have Petter's ands Dani's splits, so that he can control easily the rally.
+1


some photos
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1240&fotograf=35&all=1

[tolis]

Ken Block: Rallye de France 2011 - Ken Block - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfT-__qnjE)
lol...
Day 1 photos: http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?event=2371&foto=1240

[Langdale Forest]

I am gueniuenly suprised that Sordo is leading, but hopefully petter can win for the first time in over 6 years.


Think back and remember all the things that have happened since September 2005?

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRekTv2em8

[dimviii]

photos
GALERIEN*:: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/galerien/index.html?tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontext311%5D%5BalbumUid%5 D=137&tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontext311%5D%5BgalleryUid%5D=76&tx_yag_pi1%5BitemList311%5D%5BpagerCollection%5D%5 Bpage%5D=1&tx_yag_pi1%5Baction%5D=list&tx_yag_pi1%5Bcontroller%5D=ItemList&cHash=b5f363dbc849ca6fd71b7d14f45af9c2)

[dimviii]

Meekes spin from heli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rSKNgOGU7g

[janvanvurpa]

Ken Block: Rallye de France 2011 - Ken Block - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfT-__qnjE)
lol...
Day 1 photos: eWRC-results.com - archive and online results from WRC and rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?event=2371&foto=1240)


Are you suggesting that the man called by his fans "a Rally God" is driving like a senile old man?

Come on, that minor little "roll up to corner not using the brakes then not bother to rotate" is easy you understand: you can only lock the rears and rotate if you are going fast enough, and PULL on the handbrake...
That corner probably only cost him 5-8 seconds..
One little error and you want to pee all over him...

You must be a haterz..

Look for the positive He IS beating 45 other guys. so what if they have little 1.6 and 1.3 cars...

[Plan9]

I am not surprised by Sordo's pace at all. He must know the roads pretty well by now and the car seems to be working for him.

[Fri]

friday pics:
rallysport.hu - Rally de France - péntek (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/photo/wrc/10_francia/03_fri_pentek/index.htm)

[Francis44]

Latvala mistake this morning......

Latvala's crash on WRC - Rallye de France - Alsace - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAN5AzU0SBw) .

[MR666]

Latvala mistake this morning......

Latvala's crash on WRC - Rallye de France - Alsace - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAN5AzU0SBw) .

Thanks.

Lucky there was some kind of run off.

[Maui J.]

Wow! Amazing to see this result after day 1.
Would be fantastic to see Dani and Mini take their first win, especially in their testing year.
I'm sitting on the fence here as I would also like to see Petter also claim his first win in 6 years. A win would probably be the boost he needs to continue as a privateer, both mentally, and financially from a sponsors point of view.

[tfp]

I am gueniuenly suprised that Sordo is leading, but hopefully petter can win for the first time in over 6 years.


Think back and remember all the things that have happened since September 2005?

+1 :up: Sordo and Meeke will both win rallys one day, Im reasonably sure of that, Petter may be on his final year, I really wish he would go out with a bang, no one else in the championship deserves a win as much as he does.
And as much as I'd love to see ex citroen number two sordo beating the driver he had to assist for so many rallys(and not just beating him, getting the better of him on his own turf), I've got my fingers crossed for Solberg to win this event :D

[Fide]

My fingers crossed also for Petter who deserves a win more than other !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxdVlozSMIk&feature=player_detailpage

[AP-Racing]

Good morning

[grandejohn]

Goodmorning to everyone and good month!

[rage82]

good morning guys, the stage is live :) , fingers crossed for peter and dani

[jonkka]

G' morning...

[dimviii]

Good morning guys!

[jonkka]

Leaderboard will change...

[jonkka]

Ah, not quite

[sete]

good morning
i hope prokop can drive for better times then yesterday

[jonkka]

Petter seems to want the win anyhow... :D

[sete]

Ogier is flying too it seems he goes to the first place

[sete]

after ss10: 1.Petter 2.Sordo 3. Ogier
what a fight!! they are in 1.1sec

[dimviii]

Ogier is flying too it seems he goes to the first place

cat and mouse again

[KKS]

Good morning.... oh so close after SS10

[GINE]

Latvala is pushing Meeke, putting him the pressure. If Meeke makes a mistake, then Mikko will pass Latvala to claim more points. That is why Mikko is not taking risks?

[jonkka]

I don't know but it looks like Mikko doesn't even want to try to win the title. Permanent safety mode on all the time?

[dimviii]

Latvala is pushing Meeke, putting him the pressure. If Meeke makes a mistake, then Mikko will pass Latvala to claim more points. That is why Mikko is not taking risks?
Except that he is always slow at tarmac,he knows that is impossible to gain time from Seb Jari Dani Petter.He just waits for retirements.

[Mirek]

How do You guys know that Mikko is not pushing? What if he just can't go much faster?

[jonkka]

How do You guys know that Mikko is not pushing? What if he just can't go much faster?

Then he is in wrong line of work...

[sete]

you mean technical problem or problem with the hands? :-)

[dimviii]

How do You guys know that Mikko is not pushing? What if he just can't go much faster?

i am sure that he is pushing.Just can t go faster.His exits in almost all last rallies at first days show that he is pushing.