WRC game blog!!!!

[Koppomsbo]

at this time the conference presentation in Milan of WRC 2010 began .....
So stay tuned soon more info about the new WRC game! :D !

Anything?

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

Really Blazquez? Or are you Joking? :p

If the presentation conference is today like you say ... We got news very soon ... (I hope)

Have a nice day!

[Blazquez]

Really Blazquez? Or are you Joking? :p

If the presentation conference is today like you say ... We got news very soon ... (I hope)

Have a nice day!

yep a Member from Blackbean or Milestone on the italian rally forum where pino and luke are also on confirmed it

http://www.rallylink.it/forum/showthread.php?t=2876&page=76

its in italian so u have to translate it :D

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

Thanks for your fast reply & for the forum link ... :)

I will give a fast eyeview to it.

It looks like there is interesting info ... ;)

Regards.

[pino]

yep a Member from Blackbean or Milestone on the italian rally forum where pino and luke are also on confirmed it

http://www.rallylink.it/forum/showthread.php?t=2876&page=76

its in italian so u have to translate it :D

I can confirm that, and as soon this guy posts the conferance news I will forward them here :D

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

Thanks you so much pino ;)

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

I don't know if the press conference finishes but ...

NEWS, NEWS, NEWSS!

We wan't know more about simulation modee! :p

[lcd]

Is this press conference a marathon, or what? :D
Should have been finished by now...

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

It looks like that, LCD ... ;)

[Allyc85]

That was mean :p .

But true ;)

Looking forward to the new info we are about to get on the game though :D

[lcd]

Exclusive photo from the WRC2010 game press conference!!!! :D :laugh:

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7118/pressconference1copy.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/pressconference1copy.jpg/)

EDIT: Yeah, I know I'm a sick person!!!

[lcd]

Got to go now... :(
Let's hope tomorrow morning, I'll be enjoying an espresso (!)
watching new screens and videos of the game!!! :p

[Blazquez]

Got to go now... :(
Let's hope tomorrow morning, I'll be enjoying an espresso (!)
watching new screens and videos of the game!!! :p

lol luke, u almost got me whit that photo :p You are almost a pro at photo editing :D

well we will get the information soon :cool: and i hope that Joao Pereira will calm down i mean relax we will get the information soon or later

i am already waiting for 9 months... lol soo..... ya nvm

[Blazquez]

In the coming days DrivingItalia.NET will take place in the studios of Milestone an official presentation to the press of the next WRC game ( http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=46655 ), which will obviously DrivingItalia.NET present with two envoys not miss the chance to do it too your questions who will turn to developers software www.drivingitalia.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=50304 (http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=50304)

So Pino ! Post our questions in italian pleaseeee! :D I mean all the questions from the Milestone blog and this forum !

Thank you ;)

[NeverKnow]

Here a translation from the information: http://www.gamestop.it/32318_PC_WRC.aspx
...
- Find the right feeling with your co-pilot and study the stages are not unprepared for the many bad paths.
...
Does it mean we have the choice of doing our own pacenotes for the stages? I would really like that feature.

[lcd]

Does it mean we have the choice of doing our own pacenotes for the stages? I would really like that feature.

I think It means thats we will be able to adjust pacenotes calls early/late
( like In RBR )

[Blazquez]

Does it mean we have the choice of doing our own pacenotes for the stages? I would really like that feature.

i am not 100% sure about that yet, but i do know that we can choice the timing when the co-driver says the pacenotes.
We have to wait till we get more information about it perhaps there is a change to make your own pacenotes for a stage, but i dont know,

lets wait till we get more information from Milestone :dozey:

[pino]

In the coming days DrivingItalia.NET will take place in the studios of Milestone an official presentation to the press of the next WRC game ( http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=46655 ), which will obviously DrivingItalia.NET present with two envoys not miss the chance to do it too your questions who will turn to developers software www.drivingitalia.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=50304 (http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=50304)

So Pino ! Post our questions in italian pleaseeee! :D I mean all the questions from the Milestone blog and this forum !

Thank you ;)

Too late to post questions, the press conferance was yesterday, drivingitalia.net will soon post their review hopefully with some cool questions answered by Milestone...stay tuned ;)

[Blazquez]

Too late to post questions, the press conferance was yesterday, drivingitalia.net will soon post their review hopefully with some cool questions answered by Milestone...stay tuned ;)

.... my bad sorry! Well atleast we get some answers :D

[lcd]

I'm sure our Italian friends, have asked almost everything we wished to ask ourselves, so let's wait for the answers. ;)

I think, Is saw somewhere the question : 'Have you played RBR ?!!!!!!!!!!' :D :D :D

[pino]

I'm sure our Italian friends, have asked almost everything we wished to ask ourselves, so let's wait for the answers. ;)

I think, Is saw somewhere the question : 'Have you played RBR ?!!!!!!!!!!' :D :D :D

I've read some of the questions and I can garantee that everything is there...let's wait for the answers now :D

[lcd]

...i am already waiting for 9 months...

...so the baby wrc2010 game, Is about to be born, right? :D

[Blazquez]

...so the baby wrc2010 game, Is about to be born, right? :D

uhuh :D And when its 1 year old its gona be the best wrc2010 game ever ! =P

[Blazquez]

a part of the intervieuw : http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=256765

and here some new screenshots and information its german so u have to translate =P


Update 22.07.2010 New WRC-Screens: The new screenshots from Black Beans simulation showing the World Rally Championship, the cockpit view and the route diversity of snow, gravel and desert courses. You can find the screenshots of WRC: World Rally Championship in the gallery above. Below there will be the first information on WRC-simulation.

http://www.cynamite.de/WRC-FIA-World-Rally-Championship-Xbox360-234107/News/WRC-FIA-World-Rally-Championship-Neue-Screenshots-zeigen-Cockpit-Ansicht-sowie-Schnee-und-Wuestenstrecke-753366/

and a new Cover? Atleast i like it much more then the one Luke showed us!

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/t5_GW152362.jpg

[Francis44]

New trailer:
http://www.eurogamer.pt/videos/wrc-trailer-evento-milao .

[bennizw]

Not looking too bad. However the hands of the driver in the cockpit view remind me of the early R.A.C rally game from 1996. Would have been nice to see more hand movement on the wheel. At least not all roads were as wide as I feared!

[lcd]

At last!!!!!!
From what I've seen In the new trailer, I feel somekind of relief! Everything looks great:
realistic terrain with visible details, natural lightning, nice sharp graphics for enviroment and cars.
I think Milestone are In the right direction! :up:
If cars sound like the sounds heard In the Intro of the trailer, that would be a dream!
Of course, the big question remains:
How does It feel ?
I guess we'll have to wait some more for that...

[richy]

looks brilliant, really cant wait! nice to see Mads Ostberg's s12 in there too, wonder if there'l be an s14?

[pino]

Great trailer, can't wait to get the whole game :bounce: :D

[pino]

http://www.vvvgamer.com/forum//showthread.php?t=8650

[Josti]

Looks good, they paid great detail to the enviroment. Some roads look a bit wide and sometimes I don't get the lightning on the cars in certain angles, but those are only minor complaints. But why couldn't they have shown some asphalt stages?!

[Blazquez]

http://www.vvvgamer.com/forum//showthread.php?t=8650

So an encouraging start, this is followed by Irvin Zonca, Head of Physics Designers, Irvin kicks off by mentioning his own passion for racing games, he also has real rally driving experience and using that he hopes to bring a greater realism to WRC. He explains the considerable detail in building an effective physics system and the problems initially encountered, this requiring a complete rebuild from Milestones previous efforts, suspension and differentials required a lot of focus in finding a correct balance, anti-lock system for a turbo charger, delay lag in the acceleration, suffice to say corners have not been cut in making sure key details are all as you would expect in every aspect of the handling

Sounds goood!!! =D

[MrJan]

If I was to compare it, I would say it reminds me of Colin McRae 1 and 2 releases in the late 90's, the inertia feels right, especially on the looser surfaces. Then there's the judicious use of the handbrake, critical in hairpins and some negative camber corners where understeer can really affect section times.

I like this quote. CMR wasn't perfect handling but it was tricky while still being easy to pick up the basics. It'll appeal to more people than RBR which is difficult to learn.

[cdnrally]

http://www.drivingitalia.net/articoli.php?sez=software&id=99

It looks like there may be some interesting information, any Italians out there want to translate it for us english speaking folk..:-)?

[lcd]

http://www.vvvgamer.com/forum//showthread.php?t=8650

Thanks for the link pino! ;) Things are getting better every day!
Noted a couple of new Info:

''...Alas again I push too hard, clipping a barrier (which is damaged in the incident) and damaging my car,
this having a profound effect on the handling and effectively ruining my stage time...''

''Though on this early version graphics between stages can vary, Germany has a very cartoony look
with details popping in very close to the player, this distorting the feel of realism,
though again this is expecting to be rectified in the coming weeks.''

''...and I'm finally handed some head phones, an instant difference now I can hear my co-driver
and actually predict the corners. From struggling with understeer,
suddenly it clicks, I'm really starting to feel the handling. If I was to compare it,
I would say it reminds me of Colin McRae 1 and 2 releases in the late 90's...''

[lcd]

http://www.drivingitalia.net/articoli.php?sez=software&id=99

It looks like there may be some interesting information, any Italians out there want to translate it for us english speaking folk..:-)?

Used google translator for the part of the article regarding the gameplay!
Pretty Interesting Indeed! ;)

It is a seat, climb aboard!
The version that we tested today is a modernized version of the one shown above, so much so that I was told it was "closed tonight Milestone studies. The menu is very intuitive, you can customize the HUD, may postpone the notes of the co-pilot and we can decide what aid to use while driving, abs, stability, transmission, steering and so on. Of course we tried the game with all the aids off and on manual transmission.
We choose Ogier Citroen (Loeb was too obvious ... ed) and we start with the first stage in Germany by choosing the single stage mode. As for the Rally and the stages, it was possible to test the famous jump Rally of Finland, the winding mountain roads of the Rally of Germany, the deserts of Jordan Rally (joined by his World Cup this year) and the inevitable drift power of the rally of Sweden. The routes of the stages are quite different, both for degree of difficulty for both scenery and track layout in general are rarely repetitive. The settings of the car are quite simple to set up, moving left or right arrows can increase or decrease the following settings: Brake Balance, downforce, Gears, Car Height, Suspension, Traction Balance, Front and Rear Differential Differential and Central. We can then also choose rubber and save our settings, but now we start ...

Started the special test known immediately something is damn difficle more than I expected. If video from the streets seemed wider and the arcade control, removing all the aid gets really challenging. The notes of the navigator is vital, if not just listen to get off the road. After a twenty minute head start to take my hand and I can try really hard this game. Change the Stage and select Jordan, a 5-star test (so hard, the scale is from 1 to 5). The machine, thanks to the Logitech G25 steering wheel mounted on a stand Playseat, really feel it beneath the seat, make a series of corners without making mistakes is very difficult but when you take my hand this game is really satisfying as few, is a steer and countersteering only on earth, a continuous "row" of the wheel tread to keep the car! When we shot straight into the bumps, thanks to force feedback, they all feel so exalted on the wheel and this helps us and not just keep the car on the road. , From the beginning you are immersed in a very realistic driving experience, the car reacts differently according to road surface conditions, so that driving style is different from asphalt, gravel or snow, because, while a small mistake on tarmac will be corrected with a simple countersteering on rough terrain, it appears to be winning more cautious and careful guidance Remember when the forum said that the streets were too wide? Well in the most difficult stage (4 or 5 stars) there are sections where the car can not miss intraversare they are so narrow. After an hour of play plenty, I can finish the stage without aid but raising the foot in many places, especially in tight corners, make the limit the car will be a great undertaking! In short, the physics of this WRC and degree "simulation" general have convinced me, not 100% sim as RBR but neither is it an arcade game, is something more than just a semi mortgage. Even playing with pads xbox360 or PS3, the car with all the aids to off you can not keep the streets without problems, but only with a good FF wheel with which we can fully enjoy this WRC the Game. We could only try but WRC cars in the game will also be S2000, S1600, R3, R2 and group N. With regard to the WRC telemetry were supplied by Citroën, the S2000 for a team of IRC which does not know the name while the other categories do not know, all to recreate as closely as the physics of the cars.

Please note this!
'' In short, the physics of this WRC and degree "simulation" general have convinced me, not 100% sim as RBR but neither is it an arcade game, is something more than just a semi mortgage.''
So, based on that comment, RBR remains the undisputable king of sim out there ( ? )

[pino]

Great translation LCD :up: but I must add that the only thing they are not satisfied with the game is the engine sound...very very poor. Also as usually the PS3 version doesn't look as goos as the Xbox or PC...damn it :mad: I might buy an Xbox then ;)

[lcd]

...Also as usually the PS3 version doesn't look as goos as the Xbox or PC...damn it :mad: I might buy an Xbox then ;)

That's exactly why I got an xbox too!

Almost forgot to mention one crusial Issue: The cut Issue!
Really hope Milestone, don't allow ridiculous supernatural shortcuts through the stages, but place some physical obstacles there, to prevent cheating!
So, everyone will have to stay on the road and drive properly! :)

[Blazquez]

Please note this!
'' In short, the physics of this WRC and degree "simulation" general have convinced me, not 100% sim as RBR but neither is it an arcade game, is something more than just a semi mortgage.''
So, based on that comment, RBR remains the undisputable king of sim out there ( ? )

Well i think u dont have to see it like that... without all the aids and automatic things i think its a good sim ( nearly 100%) but whit some aids its almost a sim... but i sounds good! =D

Beside that u have to understand that this is the FIRST WRC simulation for Milestone! i think if they build on the 2010 game the 2011 game will be a step closer to the new RBR, perhaps if the sales are good they will sign an other contract for a few years that means that there finnally will be a great WRC rally simulation back in the game stores! :D

And beside that the game is for kids 3+ i think if u make a full simulation a lot of kids wont buy/play the game because its too hard! Only the older players (us) whit real car driving expience and all understand /can handle and like the real simulation mode.

Perhaps that 1 reason why the makers from RBR went bankrupt, whit the larger target of gamers they can make more profit , more profit means an other WRC game and that will be larger bigger so also more intresting for the older gamers :D

[Blazquez]

Great translation LCD :up: but I must add that the only thing they are not satisfied with the game is the engine sound...very very poor. Also as usually the PS3 version doesn't look as goos as the Xbox or PC...damn it :mad: I might buy an Xbox then ;)

It was an Work in progress video and also demo , so perhaps they still have to record the real engine sounds and replace them in the real game,
So again i have to say wait for some new information on the Milestone blog/ a few weeks for release when the game is in production to see what is really good and wrong.

I just hope they will pay all attention at the game what i also write on the Milestone blog for example : i hope they wont make the customise option like 4 different sponsors / 3 colours and 2 stripes , i hope it will be large many options, really take care of the menu /physics/ tracks and not do all half half!
Beside that i hope that they will also bring patch out later to fixs buggs / new cars? because they didnt do that whit the SBKX game as i heard so far :(

[lcd]

Well Blazquez, I'm refering to the simulation mod of the game only-I'd like It to be 100% sim-They can make the arcade mod as easy as they wish, In order to approach new audience! ;) Why to have a sim mod, If It Isn't 100% sim?

Regarding RBR, the game had no arcade mod at all, so It was meant for sim lovers (Thanks to Richard Burns! ) from the beginning...In addition, that time (2004) there were more arcade rally titles on the market that made RBR look even more difficult to play!

[Blazquez]

Great translation LCD :up: but I must add that the only thing they are not satisfied with the game is the engine sound...very very poor. Also as usually the PS3 version doesn't look as goos as the Xbox or PC...damn it :mad: I might buy an Xbox then ;)

other wise at the sound part... VVV gamers said this

"Sound also plays a big part and Milestone have long had very high standards in the sound department, WRC is no exception. Great engine sounds combine with the constant natter of your co-driver, besides directions he'll comment on your progress and can become quite irate if he feels you're not pushing hard enough. Of course he also works well to motive you and congratulate success."

they dont say that the sound is that bad....

[Blazquez]

Well Blazquez, I'm refering to the simulation mod of the game only-I'd like It to be 100% sim-They can make the arcade mod as easy as they wish, In order to approach new audience! ;) Why to have a sim mod, If It Isn't 100% sim?

Regarding RBR, the game had no arcade mod at all, so It was meant for sim lovers (Thanks to Richard Burns! ) from the beginning...In addition, that time (2004) there were more arcade rally titles on the market that made RBR look even more difficult to play!

Yhea i agree, well we will see perhaps in the carreer mode it will be 100% sim ,... I think its gona be 100% sim or close to it referring to the SBK X game , but still Rome wasnt build in one day,... so if we want a really good Rally sim , then we have to wait , perhaps this game comes close but nexst version whit the iOpener mode will be 120% Sim! they have to! Els its not fair to drive against Loeb

[lcd]

...but still Rome wasnt build in one day,...

Ha ha, that's one of the best comments around!!! :D
Nice philosophical approach Blazquez!!!

[pino]

other wise at the sound part... VVV gamers said this

"Sound also plays a big part and Milestone have long had very high standards in the sound department, WRC is no exception. Great engine sounds combine with the constant natter of your co-driver, besides directions he'll comment on your progress and can become quite irate if he feels you're not pushing hard enough. Of course he also works well to motive you and congratulate success."

they dont say that the sound is that bad....

I've posted this issue on drivingitalia.net to the guy who tested the game...I am waiting an answer ;)

[JRodrigues]

Seems I'll have to stay with RBR :( :(

[Blazquez]

Seems I'll have to stay with RBR :( :(

And still i will give the new WRC game a change! =D i think it could be fun!

[pino]

Seems I'll have to stay with RBR :( :(

Too bad for you then :p :

[rallyrazz]

Seems I'll have to stay with RBR :( :(

well. I think you should at least try it out before dismissing it.

[lcd]

I don't get It! Why should we stay with RBR or wrc2010 only?
Don't some of you remember times, when we used to play
2 or 3 rally titles at the same time? :D

I'm looking forward to stick with them both!

[lcd]

A translated part of Italian preview, with a great Interest:
http://multiplayer.it/articoli/79292-wrc-world-rally-championship.html

''...WRC wants to be a rally simulator, not a game where everything must be truer than true. And it is. If you have never seen a camera-car, go searching on YouTube and you will see that during a special stage you have no time to physically look at the view because the alternative road curves, jumps and obstacles of various kinds. The same happens in the game. The graphics are convincing, but high resolution is not perfect as in other titles because it is a functional aspect to the game and serves to give the impression of being inside a car in the race. The graphics quality is high even in the replays that show the car from special shots, some with the same angles that you can see in the movies made by fans. Milestone as anxious to stress during the race and drivers, but in the replay, there becomes a fan.''

As you can see the word for wrc2010 graphics Is more 'natural' than 'perfect', which Is exactly what I was personally expecting! ;)

[Allyc85]

Its looking good so far!

I get the feeling we will get something like the old Colin Mcrae series which will be fine by me!

[lcd]

It's easy to understand, that Milestone have set the highest stadards for the game, and all this thanks to the support of FIA,
otherwise no gaming company would really bother making a decent rally game.
That's why, I think Milestone's work means a lot!

[Blazquez]

here is some information from the communication coordinator from Black Bean Games! :D and its good news for the american rally fans =)

"Hi everyone, my name’s Davide Latina and I’m the Communication Coordinator at Black Bean Games. Yes, I’m from the other side of the moon, so sorry to jump into the developer’s blog, but I’m sure you and the whole Milestone team will forgive me! http://blog.milestone.it/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
This is just to let you know that the WRC team is actually facing a definetely hectic period as they want to provide the best WRC videogame ever, therefore every improvement requires sweat, time and a lot of coffee to stay awake http://blog.milestone.it/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif Do not worry anyway, they’re coming back with further good news for you, behind the scenes and more…
Above all, as a representative of Black Bean Games, I’d like to make official something that many of you will definetely appreciate. We’ re proud to tell you that SBK X and WRC will be released in the US as well as in South America. In particular, SBK will come out in September while WRC will hit the US shelves in October although the precise date is still to be confirmed.
Hope this could be a great news for our racing games fans. This is just an additional step forward for Black Bean Games, a small but very passionate International publisher.
Wish you all a great time with our titles, and please do not stop providing your feedback and advices!

All the best,

Davide Latina"


And no i am not Davide latina , :P i just passed it on

[lcd]

On Italian forum, revealed, a DLC will be released right after the launch of the game, but I guess It would be a DLC which unlocks some trophies and maybe cars or liveries...

[Blazquez]

On Italian forum, revealed, a DLC will be released right after the launch of the game, but I guess It would be a DLC which unlocks some trophies and maybe cars or liveries...

i saw that too, but wasnt that for SBK X or for the WRC game? i am more hoping at a Legendary package, whit all the WRC legends :D but i guess not =/ ,...

I want to see some ingame videos from the new WRC game not a trailer... just 2 vids from a full stage in Sweden,New Zealand, Portugal ( not arcade but full simulation mode )... from the start whit engine sound ( no music) just to give us some new information, and show how it looks like!

What i saw till now is that i really like the surroundings in sweden! it looks good only a bit wide... but that makes it fun to go flat out!

Jordan... i dont know the surroundings looks soo empty and boring whit only brown desserts,...

Beside that i hope that the we will see at the start the cars infront of us starting and behind us and that we meet the Rally cars at that stage if we got problems/ if we are faster ( like in Dirt 2 ( thats for me the only good part about dirt 2 beside the grafics )

I also hope that they are gona include the marshals along the track and some “security/safety bands” where the public is watching!

[lcd]

i saw that too, but wasnt that for SBK X or for the WRC game?

Oh, I'm not sure about that...Maybe pino can clear thiou out.

[pino]

Oh, I'm not sure about that...Maybe pino can clear thiou out.

It was just a joke referred at this :

PO8JooYAoPI

[306 Cosworth]

Here's a load of info about the game. Only 18 cars though

Black Bean and Milestone will be bringing the World Rally Championship to the PC, the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 on October 8th.
Below is a detailed rundown of all content included in the title. Also included are the answers to your questions, featuring info on the upcoming demo and more.

Cars:
WRC
Citroen C4
Ford Focus 09 WRC
Ford Focus 08 WRC
Subaru WRC 07

S-WRC
Punto Abarth S2000
Ford Fiesta S2000
Skoda Fabia S2000
Peugeot 207 S2000

P-WRC
Subaru Impreza N4
Mitsubishi Lancer X
Mitsubishi Lancer IX

J-WRC
Suzuki Swift S1600
Citroen C2 S1600
Renault Clio R3
Honda Civic R3
Ford Fiesta R2
Citroen C2 R2
Suzuki Swift R2

Rallys:
Rally Sweden
Rally Mexico
Jordan Rally
Rally of Turkey
Rally New Zealand
Rally de Portugal
Rally Bulgaria
Rally Finland
Rally Deutschland
Rally Japan
Rallye de France
Rally de Espana
Wales Rally GB

Over 550 kilometers of stages from these rallies are included, split up in 78 special stages on various surfaces such as gravel, snow and tarmac.

Furthermore, Marcus Kollmann has been trying hard to get answers for all your questions that were collected a few days ago. Due to the limited time a the presentation, only a handful of questions could be answered, you can find the answers below.
Included is info on the upcoming demo version, the weather system, modding and more. You might have to click “Read More” to see the answers.

Will there be a demo of the title?
Yes, Milestone plans to have a demo version for both the PC and consoles ready by mid-September, allowing sim racers to try the title before it’s released.
The official website is speaking about “entering a regional championship”. What does this mean?
Regional championships are part of the career mode as players start of with their own team in regional rallies before progressing to clinch a ride in a WRC team.

Will there be unlockable game content such as classic cars or rallies?
There will be unlockable liveries and sponsor decals.

What sort of weather effects are available – is there a proper multi-stage weather system, with puddles, surfaces turning into mud, tarmac becoming slippery, snow; or does each stage have a set weather or weathers that are switched between?
The title does not feature a dynamic wheather system, the weather at each rally is pre-set based on the actual event.

How accurate is each stage in comparison with the real stages it is based upon (Width, twistiness, obstacles, etc.)?
Milesonte did visit several rallies and took over ten thousands reference photographs, leading to stages that visually reflect the real WRC stages. No full-length WRC stages are included.

Will we be able to turn off the driver hands and wheel animations in cockpit view?
The preview version did not include such an option.

Will the track side objects like fences and barriers be movable or damageable?
Some of the lighter fencing is movable, concrete walls or massive iron-fencing wasn’t movable or damageable in the preview version.

Will the game be modding-friendly? Will there be a track editor?
Due to the licensed content, no track editor is included and modding isn’t supported.

Can you provide some details on the title’s multiplayer mode?
The title includes a Hot Seat mode for four players.

[Allyc85]

Shame there isnt more variation in WRC cars, would rather there was more of them and less JWRC cars if im honest.

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

Right now, it dosnt looks so "great" due several reasons ...

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Will the track side objects like fences and barriers be movable or damageable?

Some of the lighter fencing is movable, concrete walls or massive iron-fencing wasn’t movable or damageable in the preview version.

Will the game be modding-friendly? Will there be a track editor?

Due to the licensed content, no track editor is included and modding isn’t supported.

I don't know what they want so say with "modding isn't supported"? ... Imposible to implement any new car, tracks or mod? Something like DiRT, wich only have some files they call "mods" ...


Regards.

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

Double Post.

[lcd]

Will the game be modding-friendly? Will there be a track editor?
Due to the licensed content, no track editor is included and modding isn’t supported.

I think It's almost clear, the game will be difficult to mod, but on the other hand,
If the game Includes all things expected, maybe modding won't be such necessary!
After all, mods come to fill the missing things In a game right?
So let's hope there won't be anything missing from wrc2010! ;)

[MrJan]

The title does not feature a dynamic wheather system, the weather at each rally is pre-set based on the actual event.

That's a shame, part of the fun of CMR2 was getting tyre choices right when the next two stages had different weather.

[lcd]

So dynamic weather Is out of question...Such a shame. :(
Wonder If the weather In time trial stages, will be pre-set too?

[Blazquez]

So dynamic weather Is out of question...Such a shame. :(
Wonder If the weather In time trial stages, will be pre-set too?

=/ its a shame but other side,... perhaps they can concentrate for the dynamic weather system for the 2011 game! =D all the thinks that 2010 will miss should be reported and if Milestone want to be a good succesor they should use the ideas/ information to make a great 2011 -2012 WRC game! ( also because there is then already a basic since this is there first Rally game)

I am hopeing that the thinks what they will do, that it is good! :D

[Mixa]

Yup weather system is kinda only one I miss now. Such a shame to hear about less WRC cars than expected but otherwise it doesnt sound so bad. I love JWRC cars too but its a fact that people truly dont drive with those too much. Maybe more WRC cars will be added as the classics too via downloadable content.

What comes to fences and how we have even seen that them doesnt really move, I would say that this all has been made to make cutting and cheating more impossible. I guess everyone still remember´s how much we were suffering with old WRC games and even in other rally games for so called cliff jumping and cutting of junctions via grass what has even destroyed the competitions. I dont care if the barries dont fly if it helps on making the cutting impossible at online and will create a nice and fair gaming experience then.

Its still surely on my list if the demo will show me that its good to play.

[JRodrigues]

No modding allowed -> WRC2010=FAIL!

[MrJan]

No modding allowed -> WRC2010=FAIL!

Don't be so stupid! How many games actively support modding? Does RBR support it? Is there a track editor in that?

[lcd]

...perhaps they can concentrate for the dynamic weather system for the 2011 game!

It's more than certain, Milestone will save some things to present In the next tittles...I just wish we got dynamic weather now! :D


No modding allowed -> WRC2010=FAIL!

C'mon Rodrigues,no official games ever admitted modding Is allowed! ;)


I dont care if the barries dont fly if it helps on making the cutting impossible at online and will create a nice and fair gaming experience then.

Very much agree Mixa-''Always stay on the road'' has always been my moto In rally games! ;)

[pino]

Mitsu or not I am still looking forward to this game :D

not sure if it was already posted but here are a lot of info on the upcoming game wrc 2010

link: http://www.wrc.com/games/

[JRodrigues]

Don't be so stupid! How many games actively support modding? Does RBR support it? Is there a track editor in that?

Almost every simulator!
Yes, it supports mods!
Yes, there's a track editor!

[MrJan]

Almost every simulator!
Yes, it supports mods!
Yes, there's a track editor!

Was it officially released by the developer, or is it something done by fans? When Milestone say that they aren't supporting mods, they mean that they won't include it as an option on the game, that's not to say that it's impossible :) As Pino said, no game maker ever says that it's allowed.

[Mixa]

Yes exactly, most of the rally games or any racing games as them are now were made by the fans themself,not by the creators. Example a long ago some of us may remember how at 2001,WRC wasnt so happy with CMR2 modding as their own game was coming and that modding didnt had nothing to do with codemasters.

none of the titles what has licenses dont really support modding or even liveries because people are using the logos and manufacturers without asking any kind of permission most of the time.

Even sport titles dont support it. Even there are cases how in football games,the season updates are asked to be deleted. Even on season updates at sports or motorsport games, companies,teams and manufacturers lose money.

I just cant see them support modding anyway,specially as them are an official title and even have contract for upcoming seasons.

[JRodrigues]

Was it officially released by the developer, or is it something done by fans? When Milestone say that they aren't supporting mods, they mean that they won't include it as an option on the game, that's not to say that it's impossible :) As Pino said, no game maker ever says that it's allowed.

do you know rFactor?

[MrJan]

do you know rFactor?

Nope, I never play on the PC and I'm really not that bothered about having different liveries or skins. As far as I'm concerned I don't care if you can never modify any game.

[Mixa]

What RFactor has to do with WRC games? What about then if RFactor was meant to be a game what is moddable. Even in RFactor´s case people has done it a game it is, not the game creators itself. Everything has been pretty much changed from cars to psysics by fans. Also I just have to say this but Rfactor became a hit,yes but IF manufacturers or organisation like FIA would follow the license issues to me Rfactor would be a pretty dead game.

All Im trying to say that WRC is an officially licensed product what has its limits to represent the WRC itself. It just isn´t a game what some simracers has done to other simracers. Its amazing to see a small brawl in here for modding. I example really wonder if the upcoming F1 game would be officially made for mods. It just wont never going to happen with official titles. We can even drag Gran Turismo for this. Yes people have wanted to mod it for years but it just wont never happen!

You keep the game as fail,thats fine and thats logical to me but if the reason is that it doesnt have a livery mod,car mod or track editor its a really dumb reason not to be liking of a game if it proves to be playable and a nice game and WRC finally gets a good official game after all these years.

[Bruce D]

Brilliantly said Mixa :up:

[MrJan]

Brilliantly said Mixa :up:

+1

[Blazquez]

I found this on the new WRC site: http://www.wrc.com/games/ ;)

Because its the Official WRC site it confirms some stuff here we go: :D

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/WRC%20Game/WRC_11.jpg

World Rally Championship is back again after a long while! The unique official off-road racing experience!

The only title that brings the real official cars, the real thrill against time and the real excitement of drifts and handbrake turns on PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3!

Game Features

ROAD TO THE WRC: face the extraordinary career mode which will allow you to go through the steps of a real driver of WRC! Start by building up your own team and participating in regional championship, moving step by step to most prestigious categories and conquering a contract with the official teams of WRC.

TIME ATTACK: choose your favourite car to set the record on your favourite special! You'll be able to upload the ghost of your best performance and download those of the world record holders! ONLINE RANKING: compete in the online section facing the other players worldwide: you'll be able to organize or participate to completely customizable Single Stages, Single Rallies or Championships! Earn experience with your performances and raise your online ranking to become the Number One!
INCREDIBLE WEATHER CONDITIONS: from the snowy tracks in Sweden to the dusty desert in Jordan, through the technical asphalt trails in Spain!

Quick Reference

Classic Game Modes:
Single Stage
Single Rally
Championship

New Game Modes:
Road to the WRC (Career)
Rally Academy
Time Attack
Hot Seat (4 players)

Online Modes:
Single Stage
Single Rally
Championship

Categories:
JWRC, PWRC, SWRC, WRC

Cars 18

WRC
Citroen C4
Ford Focus 09 WRC
Ford Focus 08 WRC
Subaru WRC 07
S-WRC
Punto Abarth S2000
Ford Fiesta S2000
Skoda Fabia S2000
Peugeot 207 S2000
P-WRC
Subaru Impreza N4
Mitsubishi Lancer X
Mitsubishi Lancer IX
J-WRC
Suzuki Swift S1600
Citroen C2 S1600
Renault Clio R3
Honda Civic R3
Ford Fiesta R2
Citroen C2 R2
Suzuki Swift R2

Drivers 60
Car Damages 32
Rallies 13
Tracks 78
Events 55

Other Features
Online ranking system
Car customization
Co-driver notes
Voting system

Additional Game Features

Unlock an exclusive set of liveries and sponsors for each car in the game![/*:m:15qv0ouv]
Experience all the four official car categories of JWRC, PWRC, SWRC and WRC championships![/*:m:15qv0ouv]
Work on your favourite car settings![/*:m:15qv0ouv]
Exploit your co-driver audio notes to master the hardest sections of each track and to bring the game to utmost extreme realism![/*:m:15qv0ouv]
Use the voting system to choose your favourite rally and play in it![/*:m:15qv0ouv]Developer
Milestone
Publisher
Black Bean

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/WRC%20Game/WRC_34.jpg

[Walach]

Still believe that they will make there Impreza WRC 08, not only 06 :( ((

[JRodrigues]

Still believe that they will make there Impreza WRC 08, not only 06 :( ((

That's why modding is so important for a lot of people.

[Blazquez]

That's why modding is so important for a lot of people.

agree,.. but the different is RBR wasnt a official WRC game... and this WRC game is... :(

[lcd]

New Interview here!
http://www.gamereactor.eu/articles/4371/Interview%3A+Fabio+Paglianti+on+WRC/

[Bruce D]

Just got SBK X yesterday and was giving it a crack last night. This is Blackbeans other title and I must say the difference between 09 and this version is quite great too, so I'm more confident about the WRC title. Lets put it this way, they've listened to most of the opinions and suggestions people had on how to improve the SBK titles and now it's miles better.

[lcd]

http://a.imageshack.us/img8/2770/nonewsq.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/nonewsq.jpg/)

[Mixa]

heh,been also waiting good news a while ago but yeah nothing new I see. Im also confident what comes to WRC and cant wait.

Does anyone know by the way about online features,that can you example make private sessions and while beeing a host at the session,lock the driveable cars example only for Clio R3? Was just thinking that by this way,it would be easy to everyone who are running manufacturer cups at online like Clio Trophy,C2R2 challenge or Fiesta Trophy.

[lcd]

I bet Milestone, never expected Codemasters counter attack,
just a couple of months before WRCgame launch!!!!!

Codemasters suddenly fell In love with rally again??? :rolleyes:

I hope Milestone keep silent, because they're preparing their reaction! ;)

[pino]

Guys do not expect any news in this month, because in August 90% of italians are on holiday ;)

[lcd]

Take a look at what a guy at Italian forum found!!!! :eek:

http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/wrc...0509415262.jpg (http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/wrc-fia-world-rally-championship-02/02Launcher2010080509415262.jpg)
http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/wrc...0509532799.jpg (http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/wrc-fia-world-rally-championship-02/01Launcher2010080509532799.jpg)
http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/wrc...0509070414.jpg (http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/wrc-fia-world-rally-championship-02/03Launcher2010080509070414.jpg)
http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/wrc...0509274476.jpg (http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/wrc-fia-world-rally-championship-02/Launcher2010080509274476.jpg)

[MrJan]

This is starting to look promising again :up:

[lcd]

Yes, that's what I think too! ;)

[pino]

Himos Stage (Finland) 6.2 km :D

http://www.gamesblog.it/galleria/wrc-fia-world-rally-championship-02/4

[Bruce D]

LCD, your Italian must be improving with all this! :p

[lcd]

What's this???? Somekind of rally school lessons?
Don't tell me that you can race having this option on? :p
That's so rookie!!! :D

http://a.imageshack.us/img697/8771/8664launcher20100805090.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/8664launcher20100805090.jpg/)

[MrJan]

I think that it's good. None of us will use it but it opens the game up to more people. However I think that this could be one of the mini-games like CMR4 and WRC4 (??) had. e.g stay on line for x% of the stage and you unlock something :)

[lcd]

The menus look so great! So formal and professional! :up:
It's got the look that kills!!!

http://a.imageshack.us/img72/1133/launcher201008041444395.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/launcher201008041444395.jpg/)

[MrJan]

Just pre-ordered this on Amazon for £33, hopefully meaning that I get it on the release date.

[Neil J]

I just wanna hear someone say "it`s as good a driving experience as Richard Burns Rally" then I`ll be happy ;)

[Mixa]

I will wait the demo and see then what to do. I guess that I´m going to get it for PS3 as on console I get more time to play it as PC is on use quite often. Im also quite curious to see how the cars will behave but feedback what Ive been hearing has been okey.

Also thanks for posting some screens of the N.gr cars and menu pics. I think them looks great too. Also I wonder how the career goes on after that :P

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

What comes to drive like RBR, as Ive said before on PS2 example RBR´s controls were far from nice. Also if you drive RBR even at PC with basic settings,mostly the car gets for your hands under braking or gets to the moment you just cannot save. Most of the RBR´s well driving car psysics are made by fans or then by the setups, not by the game itself but its how I think it. Also once more, I do not keep RBR as its great as its said to be but its still one of the best rally games out there. Also comparing to WRC game just isn´t right. Them are 2 different games and by my mind,we dont need an updated version of RBR. I really want to see something else.

[306 Cosworth]

Just pre-ordered this on Amazon for £33, hopefully meaning that I get it on the release date.

If Amazon are still as good as a few years ago then you may get lucky as I got GT4 the day before the official release date!

[MrJan]

If Amazon are still as good as a few years ago then you may get lucky as I got GT4 the day before the official release date!

My brother ordered GT4 from Amazon and it didn't turn up until days after the release date.

[Blazquez]

What's this???? Somekind of rally school lessons?
Don't tell me that you can race having this option on? :p
That's so rookie!!! :D

http://a.imageshack.us/img697/8771/8664launcher20100805090.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/8664launcher20100805090.jpg/)

just back from holiday and this looks amazing! =D btw luke this is the shakedown i think!

btw my rally car is a bit futher should i upload some pictures?

[raybak]

Yeah upload pictures of your rally car.

Ray

[Blazquez]

Yeah upload pictures of your rally car.

Ray

should i start an own topic? so i dont spamm it at the WRC topic?

[pino]

should i start an own topic? so i dont spamm it at the WRC topic?

Yes please ;)

[steve_spackman]

6 stages per country seems rather disappointing..hope they reverse them.

Apart from that looking good

[Blazquez]

Yes please ;)

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139436

here it is the start u will see a few photos from my 205

[lcd]

At last some news...WRC game achievements!!! :up:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/wrc-fia-world-rally-championship/achievements/

[Blazquez]

At last some news...WRC game achievements!!! :up:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/wrc-fia-world-rally-championship/achievements/


nice find! i like the achievements! should it be also for PC ?

[bennizw]

Why shouldn´t it? The game will be the same for all platforms.

[Mixa]

but it wouldn´t be the first time when them are different. Example sometimes on PS3 there isn´t trophies at all or when you compare them to X360 ones them are slightly different.

Still the achievements looks awesome. Its also nice that there are team up challenges and even single driver challenges made for Araujo and to skeet champion (Al Attiyah) :) .

[Blazquez]

Why shouldn´t it? The game will be the same for all platforms.

because u can earn Xbox G points... whit it and ps3 and pc doesnt have that =S

[Blazquez]

Friday, August 20, 2010 written by Joey Hasselbach at game-vid.com

The game really needs no introduction, WRC says a lot.But for those who have not yet WRC stands for World Rally Championship and we have tested the game for you. Curious about our view of the game? Read more soon

Full throttle

Rally is our opinion one of the most difficult racing, the technology involved in the racing order comes into his demands skills properly. Therefore, Black Bean studios for those who rally to the game created. The game looks very nice at first, at least until you watch the details. We find the menu of the game look pretty bad and so does the environment at most places is not good. You might think it is still a demo. Initially this is true, but the game does have a release date October 8th.

In our view there is still much work to do for Black Bean Studios to make the game perfect.Something that we believe will not succeed.

The game is only at the graphic area not finished yet, maybe Black Bean Studios can surprise us!. The game does have the potential to be a good rally game. It's not that everything in the game is bad, but the technique can differ grapisch field this time really better.

http://www.game-vid.com/news/gamescom/1599-hands-on-wrc-the-game

(it is dutch)

[Macd]

ps3 does have trophies

[Blazquez]

a new in game vid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM7lVLtzAkY
found at the WRC blog and posted by Kiks72

and my reaction at it xD

First of all , i have to say about the video from Koks72 that they improved the grafics! that looks better,
2nd i have to agree whit Bejamin that the pacenotes do not fit whit the stage, for example the hairpin….. BUT i do not say that those pacenotes are the notes of the stage, or perhaps that the person who test the game made the pacenotes by him self ( an option in the new WRC game) and he was just trying out somethings.
an other bad thing what gave me some attention was at 1.45 when he goes off the track into a cliff , the car gets really fast back on the track and he get only a delay of 10 sec… kinda strange
But Benjamin i dissagree whit a few thing, about the physics ,IF u have a good setup at your rally car u dont have to slide that much! Not every car slide! if u chose the right tires and setup u can have really much grip so u dont slide at all!( i know it because i am a rally driver)
Beside that, perhaps the guy who tested that game drove the quick race whit all aids on or he drove the ARCADE MODE , like in SBK X in the ARCADE mode u dont slip away!( because its made for kids)
IN THE STORY MODE or Carreer mode u do got all aids off and do SLIP AWAY ( if u dotn have the right setup for the rally! ),
SO DONT CONCLUDE such thinks to quickly! its a shame to the producers of a game, just because some people shout away all things but they dont even got 10% of the information!!
I belive Milestone and Black Bean Games are on a good way! Keep on going! And in the future we will have GREAT Rally games again!

Martijn/ Rallylegend / Blazquez

[lcd]

Can't understand much things, based on that new video,
apart that the scenary looks so alive! ;)

[Mixa]

Have you guys been checking the small video from wrc.com ?? I think its quite promising when the drivers say its realistic and very driveable and you can do the same things as in the real car with it.

[pino]

Have you guys been checking the small video from wrc.com ?? I think its quite promising when the drivers say its realistic and very driveable and you can do the same things as in the real car with it.

http://www.wrc.com/video/browse-all/wrc-the-official-game-to-the-world-rally-championship/?vid=1718&pg=1

[bennizw]

Another video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrVvuuY8EZM

It´s really depressing to see the socalled “hairpins” in the video from the stage in Germany. They are nothing like the ones you see in the vineyards in WRC footage. A hairpin is a corner that should be done in 1st og 2nd gear, not 3rd or 4th flat out. Unbelieveable.

[lcd]

It's nice to see some narrow asphalt roads In this new video. ;)
The enviroment keeps looking so alive!
Guess this Is from the demo of the game, which Is probably complete...

[lcd]

Been checking Milestone's blog...Too much negativity there;In my opinion, there Is no serious evidence the game will be crap!
Those latest videos, are just a teaser presentation, obviously with all driver aids on, no damage enabled and a guy that his driving sucks...
I'm more than certain, that the final product will be just great!

[lcd]

New In game video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw3M5bu40GI&feature=player_embedded

I think It looks just great-The guy testing It though, drives very carefully,
but at some occasions, It's clear that car physics are quite realistic!
Graphics look great and the sound of the c4, Is ok I think!
Listening the co driver during replay, when selecting the In car cam, Is a great feature!
I'm satisfied by this new video! ;)

[Blazquez]

New In game video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw3M5bu40GI&feature=player_embedded

I think It looks just great-The guy testing It though, drives very carefully,
but at some occasions, It's clear that car physics are quite realistic!
Graphics look great and the sound of the c4, Is ok I think!
Listening the co driver during replay, when selecting the In car cam, Is a great feature!
I'm satisfied by this new video! ;)

I like this new information!
Futhermore i got this: http://www.racesimcentral.com/news/2010/08/wrc-2010-exclusive-first-stage-of-career-mode-video/

The said: "We’ll be doing a full preview in an episode most likely in the next few weeks to give our in depth impressions and lots of footage and settings we ran with "

[bennizw]

It definitly looks a little better, but the sound of the C4 is nothing special. I wouldn´t rate it as good. And the co-driver is horrible, just studdering notes which seem to come up from nowhere. There is no flow and they are very simple.

[lcd]

It definitly looks a little better, but the sound of the C4 is nothing special. I wouldn´t rate it as good. And the co-driver is horrible, just studdering notes which seem to come up from nowhere. There is no flow and they are very simple.

We got just a little taste of the sound, as the soundtrack Is very loud!
Regarding the pacenotes, I agree, but remember, there will be an option
to set calls the way you like, like RBR. So hopefully, that will fix It! ;)
Please note, how the wheels spin on the gravel, as If the grip Is real;
no way the car feels like floating, like In DiRT1 for example!
One other thing...You could compare the behaviour of the car on the gravel
to a RBR replay-I think they are much alike!

[Walach]

The track is veeeery wide.... :(

[MrJan]

Quote from the link that Blazquez posted:


How does it compare to the E3 demo I watched Tommy play? Looks like the damage modeling and physics has improved. People had commented that he stages were too wide.. Let me tell you.. There’s some TIGHT stages !

[JRodrigues]

New In game video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw3M5bu40GI&feature=player_embedded

I think It looks just great-The guy testing It though, drives very carefully,
but at some occasions, It's clear that car physics are quite realistic!
Graphics look great and the sound of the c4, Is ok I think!
Listening the co driver during replay, when selecting the In car cam, Is a great feature!
I'm satisfied by this new video! ;)

WTF?! That is Rally Portugal??? The roads are too wide and you can go out without anything happening to the car! The sounds are crap! Hairpins in 3rd?!?!?! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: The stadium is a nice feature, though.

[lcd]

To me gameplay (handling) and long challenging stages, are what come first.
Never expected a glamour game like DiRT2 from Milestone, but a solid rally game regarding the content!
Though I believe, the final product will be decent In all areas (graphics, sounds, e.t.c.) ;)

[pino]

WTF?! That is Rally Portugal??? The roads are too wide and you can go out without anything happening to the car! The sounds are crap! Hairpins in 3rd?!?!?! :eek: The stadium is a nice feature, though.

Stage is ok and the only think I don't like are: pace notes and engine sounds :s still we must not forget that this is thier first game, so it can't be perfect :p :

[lcd]

Stage is ok and the only think I don't like are: pace notes and engine sounds...

Sorry to repeat myself, but there's got to be something better In sound and pacenotes, In the final game!
Milestone may are not 'rally experts', but they are not from Mars-They sure know how the cars should sound
or how the pacenots should be...

I Insist they are hiding some stuff from us, due marketing reasons! ;)
Still got all of my support!

EDIT: I was so desperately waiting for a proper wrc game,
so I'm willing to accept any kind of omissions or little flaws... :D

[Blazquez]

Sorry to repeat myself, but there's got to be something better In sound and pacenotes, In the final game!
Milestone may are not 'rally experts', but they are not from Mars-They sure know how the cars should sound
or how the pacenots should be...

I Insist they are hiding some stuff from us, due marketing reasons! ;)
Still got all of my support!

EDIT: I was so desperately waiting for a proper wrc game,
so I'm willing to accept any kind of omissions or little flaws... :D

Its not that they are noobie at the Rally world, its more that they said Irvin Zonca (Head of Physics Game Designers) had rally experience as Co-driver in italy.... now if u see the pacenotes and hear it its far far far far faaaaaaaaaaaar away from "professional" or any experience as a co-driver,and there are more like small and big things like that

I have been co-driving, a mechanic at the service and now driving for a few years in the rallysport... so i know a lot of information what they need..., sometimes i wish that a group of RBR modders and me could help 4 weeks at Milestone ... ,i mean they would get soo much information about the physics pacenotes tracks and go on... but still,...

At the begining i had a good conection whit "Nicola Armellini" he worked at Milestone for Black bean games, and he passed my ideas/tips on...and i could give good feedback but Nicola quited at Milestone and the new guy doesnt even answer an email from me,...

But still i could have a bit experience but if you are making a WRC game then u have to get the help and feedback from great drivers and co-drivers like Sebastian Loeb and Daniel Elena ( even EX WRC driver Gigi Gali was good) to help developing the game ( like Richard Burns did by RBR , Colin McRae did by Colin McRae Rally ) and then u are 100% sure that the Physics and pacenotes ( main importent thinks) are good...

Sadly Milestone didnt made a good plan and i guess they just underestimate the greatness of a WRC game!They could did it MUCH and MUCH better,... :(

[pino]

But still i could have a bit experience but if you are making a WRC game then u have to get the help and feedback from great drivers and co-drivers like Sebastian Loeb and Daniel Elena ( even EX WRC driver Gigi Gali was good) to help developing the game ( like Richard Burns did by RBR , Colin McRae did by Colin McRae Rally ) and then u are 100% sure that the Physics and pacenotes ( main importent thinks) are good...

Sadly Milestone didnt made a good plan and i guess they just underestimate the greatness of a WRC game!They could did it MUCH and MUCH better,... :(

Totally agree :up:

[Blazquez]

Totally agree :up:

Pino can u translate my quote in italian and place it at the italian forum so that developer read it and they can use(/ contract Gigi Gali ) in the nexst WRC game! That would be very very good!

thanks in advance!

[pino]

Pino can u translate my quote in italian and place it at the italian forum so that developer read it and they can use(/ contract Gigi Gali ) in the nexst WRC game! That would be very very good!

thanks in advance!

Post it in english and then I will translate your quote ;)

[Blazquez]

new vid from Black bean Games about the WRC game : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lsGpVMLwMg
beside that the official website is also open : http://www.wrcthegame.com/EN-us/

Here a Screenshot from the Multiplayer:

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/WRC%20Game/resize_stored_generic.jpg
And here from the Setup:

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/WRC%20Game/resize_stored_generic2.jpg

[MrJan]

Wow! They certainly got the Panzerplate stuff right and the graphics look much better now.

I'm used to pace notes being dodgy (IMO I haven't played a game since CMR2 that actually had a decent set of notes that you could rely on) but I hope that they've got the handling right (I'm happy with a balance between realism and fun).

Also intriguing that the piece from Racesimcentral mentions a surprise that can't be mentioned yet...sounds interesting.

[Mixa]

Looks great and the roads also looks nice. Also what comes to earlier Germany seen on gamescom vid,thats more like it :P . I just dont have the skills but if someone can slow down the video and use screenshot tool, we could pretty much know the drivers list :)

[lcd]

Based on latest video, the game contains almost everything we've been asking for! :up: And thank God, It's 100% rally! :)

[bennizw]

beside that the official website is also open : http://www.wrcthegame.com/EN-us/

The official website has been up for months, unless you have found a new part of it?

[Blazquez]

beside that the official website is also open : http://www.wrcthegame.com/EN-us/

The official website has been up for months, unless you have found a new part of it?

its closed now but this midday it was open i could look inside get info and that screenshot what i post up... it looked good!

[lcd]

That's the only one working at the moment: http://www.wrcthegame.com/

Another thing now: Really hope Milestone/BlackBean start up a forum at last-
Things can't go on via blog...

[lcd]

Ripped from the new trailer! Can you believe that jump? :D

http://a.imageshack.us/img835/4635/image1uo.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/image1uo.jpg/)
http://a.imageshack.us/img819/5482/image2jh.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/image1uo.jpg/)

[Blazquez]

That's the only one working at the moment: http://www.wrcthegame.com/

Another thing now: Really hope Milestone/BlackBean start up a forum at last-
Things can't go on via blog...

inside the website there was not a forum.... there was a media button , download, support a shop , press and a blog link... to the milestone blog... but it looked cool!

[lcd]

A forum Is a must-have for Milestone/Black Bean, If they wish to be In a constant touch with the game's fanbase. ;)

[Blazquez]

Looks great and the roads also looks nice. Also what comes to earlier Germany seen on gamescom vid,thats more like it :P . I just dont have the skills but if someone can slow down the video and use screenshot tool, we could pretty much know the drivers list :)

if i can download that video then i can slow it down whit sony vegas ! :D did u already download that vid?

[Blazquez]

Looks great and the roads also looks nice. Also what comes to earlier Germany seen on gamescom vid,thats more like it :P . I just dont have the skills but if someone can slow down the video and use screenshot tool, we could pretty much know the drivers list :)

I am making screenshots from the cars =D tonight i will upload them here, after i came back from working on my rally car xD

[Mixa]

I am making screenshots from the cars =D tonight i will upload them here, after i came back from working on my rally car xD

No big there,Blazquez and hopefully by your one I will see the whole truth of that point so take your time. I´ve already been making some list by numbers you see at the screen. Also it seems all cars arent there when I was trying to screen it with my system but I´m not 100% sure as its a bit too fast for my system.

[306 Cosworth]

The car sounds are just terrible! God knows what the S2000s will sound like, let alone the Focus and S12B Impreza!

[Blazquez]

They are FINNALY back! http://blog.milestone.it/2010/08/25/were-back-finally/

[bennizw]

Ny video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JoipoBXHYQ&feature=player_embedded

[Walach]

The end of the stage ( I think last two minutes) the track looks really cool. It could be very good fun with my G25...We will see, but I will probably buy it!

[pino]

The car sounds are just terrible! God knows what the S2000s will sound like, let alone the Focus and S12B Impreza!

I've posted that on the Blog, hopefully the sound will be improved. Btw that stage from Jordan looks amazing :eek: :up:

[lcd]

OMG that stage looks so real!!!
Sounds could be better-though I love the exhaust pops! ;)

did you notice how the car spinned while passing through the water at 2:18?!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MrJan]

If the stages are all that good then I couldn't give two s**ts what it sounds like :D Towards the end (when it's on the side of the cliff with the barrier) it looks fantastic, finally a rally game with gravel stages that aren't 4 times the width of the car.

[Blazquez]

here a quote from RaceSimCentral

"One of the questions I’ve been asked a lot since posting that video is, how are the physics. For those of you that are looking for Richard Burns physics, they’re not in this title. For those that want something like Forza, or Gran Turismo in regards to physics, then you will like WRC a lot. "

http://www.racesimcentral.com/news/tag/world-rally-championship/

[JRodrigues]

here a quote from RaceSimCentral

"One of the questions I’ve been asked a lot since posting that video is, how are the physics. For those of you that are looking for Richard Burns physics, they’re not in this title. For those that want something like Forza, or Gran Turismo in regards to physics, then you will like WRC a lot. "

http://www.racesimcentral.com/news/tag/world-rally-championship/

Mehhhhh so it looks I will continue with RBR.

[Blazquez]

Mehhhhh so it looks I will continue with RBR.

atleast i will give WRC a try! :D and they say its not mod able... but u know ... there is always a way in.. and hoppefully some modders mod the WRC physics and tadaaaa! =D Best rally game ever :rolleyes:

[MrJan]

Mehhhhh so it looks I will continue with RBR.

Eugh, I'm glad that I don't live with you, I don't think that I could put up with the negativity. Why don't you just wait and see what the demo plays like before moaning about the game?

[lcd]

Don't get It...Why Is It always, as we have to choose between RBR and WRC?
Can't just enjoy both? :)

[Francis44]

The last video looks really good.

[lcd]

Gave a closer look at the latest video and noticed the first 3 stages
of Jordan have number 1, after their name.
So, that means the other 3 are the reversed versions?
On the other hand, If you look at the diagrams of each stage,
none are similar...
Are there 6 diferrent stages or just 3 (normal and reversed) ?
The stages length Is quite satisfiying so far!


http://a.imageshack.us/img843/244/image1uz.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/image1uz.jpg/)
Kafrain 1

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8568/image2jit.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/image2jit.jpg/)
Mount Nebo 1

http://a.imageshack.us/img838/8158/image3br.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/image3br.jpg/)
Yakrut 1

[richy]

Ny video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JoipoBXHYQ&feature=player_embedded

That stage looks very impressive, nice cambered corners etc, if they are all like that it'l be good, still a bit sceptical but looking forward, already pre ordered!

[cdnrally]

This latest video is pretty decent. A couple of + and -'s for me.

Plus +

- though the water splashes have not looked great in replays and the way the car reacts in them in the last video looks good. You can clearly see the car slows quite a bit (20kms/hr) in the first one and as mentioned slides in the second.

- the way the car reacts on contact with road side objects is good. It doesn't have a typical arcade bounce or roll over just from running into something.

- the game looks challenging to drive. That doesn't mean the physics are accurate but at least you can't floor it around corners unrealistically.

- the stage is quite narrow and looks tough to stay on course. This stage is no wider then any of the US rally in RBR. People bitched about some of the RBR stages being wide when it came out too.

- damage model looks good.

- A.I. looks challenging. Darin was driving pretty decent minus a few offs, but was 22 secs behind after the 3rd split. I think it will be tough to beat the AI times which is good!

Minus -

- as mentioned the hairpin turns is clearly the wrong call. It should just be 2 Long or something to that effect.

- When the car lost control and hit the rock it should have been a retirement or near retirement. There was not enough damage effect to the car, though as mentioned the damage looked good.

- the instant re-spawn is disappointing. I'm not sure if there is a time penalty but its a bit arcady. All they have to do is implement what they did in RBR. crash and if you can't get out call for help. They don't even need the spectator thing that RBR had... that was cool but it got old fast.

Overall this game is looking promising. I find the graphics and sounds to be fine, not mind blowing but not any worse then RBR. The physics look ok but we'll not know until the demo. Personally I think it will be good. Not amazing like RBR but maybe with some tweeking it can get real close. That or maybe (just maybe) they'll take suggestions for the next 2011 to improve areas that need improving.

The fact Darin says its a game he keeps wanting to come back to is a good sign. It means the game has appeal and a desire to want to play it and that to me is the most important part!

[Blazquez]

Some new screenshots! :D

http://blog.milestone.it/2010/08/26/new-screenshots-and-thanks-to-a-couple-of-friends/

[lcd]

Some new screenshots! :D

http://blog.milestone.it/2010/08/26/new-screenshots-and-thanks-to-a-couple-of-friends/

Amazing rally stuff!!!!! :)

[Francis44]

WOW it really looks good.

Some have been judging the graphics but it's not far to do so if he haven't seen the game running in 1080P screens.

[lcd]

Can't stop watching the Jordan video!!!
Total addiction here!!! :D

[Blazquez]

Can't stop watching the Jordan video!!!
Total addiction here!!! :D

hahaha , but after watching that vid i am a bit worried if my computer can handle the new WRC game, and if i have to chose between 8 new tires for a rally or a new computer then i go for the tires :D

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

New Vid:

http://www.wrc.com/jwrc/video/features/germany-2010-abu-dhabi-spirit-of-the-rally/?vid=1718

Real JWRC, SWRC & PWRC drivers like Thierry Neuville, Kevin Abbring, Armindo Araujo or Patrik Sandell, take a tast of the new rally game.

Kevin talks about the realistic it was the game in general.
Patrik talks & try to be focused more in physics area & says "it could be a good practice for the future rally" & also says when you get the right feeling of the car, you can drive like a real one using left foot braking, etc ... :)

PD: Thierry have better to keep driving in the reality ... He destroy his car in reverse gear! :p : :p :

Im joking ... He is fantastic driver :)

Bye, bye

[steve_spackman]

for me the game will be about the fun factor..looking forward to the games release and will be enjoying my first WRC game on the consoles

[bennizw]

New Vid:

http://www.wrc.com/jwrc/video/features/germany-2010-abu-dhabi-spirit-of-the-rally/?vid=1718

No, that video has been out for a week already...

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

Ok ... Sorry ...

But nobody has posted on the forum i think ... No?

Have a nice day!

[bennizw]

No probs. Posted by Pino the 22nd of August :)

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

Ok ... Sorry for the double post ...

I was bussy & didn`t visit the forum all i want during last month :p

[lcd]

WRCgame GreekFans page on facebook here!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Wrcgame-GreekFans/100001306796375#!/profile.php?id=100001306796375 (http://www.facebook.com/people/Wrcgame-GreekFans/100001306796375#%21/profile.php?id=100001306796375)

[pino]

WRCgame GreekFans page on facebook here!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Wrcgame-GreekFans/100001306796375#!/profile.php?id=100001306796375 (http://www.facebook.com/people/Wrcgame-GreekFans/100001306796375#%21/profile.php?id=100001306796375)


5 new shots and a personal thanks to you ;)



http://blog.milestone.it/2010/08/30/five-new-screenshots-and-thanks-to-our-greek-fans/#comments

[lcd]

5 new shots and a personal thanks to you ;)


Wow!!! :eek: That's so much appreciated! :)

[Blazquez]

The new WRC site is online (again) www.wrcthegame.com (http://www.wrcthegame.com)

Here some screenshots:

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/WRCsite.jpg

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/WRCthegame3.jpg

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/WRCthegame2.jpg

[Francis44]

New video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVWVcY6dJYQ&feature=player_embedded# .

[lcd]

New video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVWVcY6dJYQ&feature=player_embedded# .

It sounds GREAT!!! :)

[Mixa]

Yes the new video looks excellent. Ok the sounds of an S2000 isn´t so spot on and sounds a bit for the upcoming WRC 1.6t but I don´t care. The game looks great and surely will give a lot of fun to play. What comes to roads, it looks very nice and for a very nice to drive. Still as in all tarmac rounds seen so far. The hairpins aint really hairpins and there could be a bit more twistier roads instead of just basic left to right corners what are bending a bit. Still the game will surely be the one I buy, even when the competition during the release is very hard.

Nothing really new at the re opened webpage. Im only a bit concerned if it says right that you can´t retire from the event but different type of damage will just effect to your car.

Only wish I really have is that at online, there would be an option to turn the ghost cars off. If someone could pass the wish forward it would be great. At online people were always moaning for those including me.

BTW some new screenies and a mention for a Greek fangroup :P at milestone blog. Also the new screenies look stunning.

[pino]

I love it :D

[bennizw]

It sounds GREAT!!! :)

How can you say it sounds great? The Skoda sounds like a raped diesel car in this video!

[lcd]

How can you say it sounds great? The Skoda sounds like a raped diesel car in this video!

I judge the sound of It In general;maybe one thing or two things could be better,
but the feeling I get listening to It, Is great!

Anyway, I guess It depends on everybody's personal taste over sound... ;)

[Walach]

New video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVWVcY6dJYQ&feature=player_embedded# .

If there are tarmac rims, why they look like gravel ones? And If there are gravel rims, why they are using them on tarmac?

[Francis44]

If there are tarmac rims, why they look like gravel ones? And If there are gravel rims, why they are using them on tarmac?

I expect those little details to be fixed in the final build. There are some little things missing, like the banners, reflective windows in hot rally's, and so on but those are little things which I expect to see in the final build.

[Walach]

I hope so. Any info about demo release date?

[bennizw]

I has nothing to do with taste concerning the car sounds, LCD.

The ingame footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVWVcY6dJYQ&feature=player_embedded#

sounds nothing like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zZ-Dbj8Ma8

[JRodrigues]

Sounds=MEGA-FAIL!!

P.S.: Guess I won't have any personal thank you in their blog :D

[Allyc85]

I has nothing to do with taste concerning the car sounds, LCD.

The ingame footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVWVcY6dJYQ&feature=player_embedded#

sounds nothing like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zZ-Dbj8Ma8

Agreed that Skoda in the game sounds terrible and nothing like a screaming S2000!

[lcd]

Don't know If It's fair to compare real life sounds with gaming sounds.
I mean we all wish for a 100% realistic sound, but maybe this Isn't
technically possible.
Codemasters, who are very experienced In making rally games, recently, In their forums,
said they could make DiRT3 sound very realistic, but then there would be some technical Issues
(I suppose In performance) so they will adjust real recorded samples to a more ''game format''.

You'll tell me that the sound mods for RBR sound great and work out fine...
I agree;many things about that game will always stay a mystery!!!! :D

[lcd]

5 Group B cars featuring In the game!!! :)
http://blog.milestone.it/

[MrJan]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!! I seriously hope that the sound is better now :D

Also nice to see that they haven't just gone with the usual cars and we'll have the Delta S4 and BX4 too. Shame that it'll cost money though

[pino]

Great news but why not Audi Quattro and Metro 64R ? :(

[Josti]

Great news but why not Audi Quattro and Metro 64R ? :(

Agree, but how unusual to see a BX 4TC featured in game for once. Now people can finally know how bad a car it was. :D

[lcd]

Great news but why not Audi Quattro and Metro 64R ? :(

Who knows...Maybe Group B cars was an addition, out of schedule...
Don't expect any sponsors on the liveries though, due to lisence Issues. :(

[I am evil Homer]

And 2 different liveries for each Group B! Other games have done the Quattro and 6R4...it would be nice to have them but it's just as good we get something different.

Assume the BX4 will be nearly impossible to drive just like the real thing

[Francis44]

Weird thing is that it is an add'on, so we will have to pay for it, but Im ok with that just weird that they will release it on the game's launch.

[Mixa]

I´m happy to see atleast some of the group B cars featured on the game and add on´s are mostly a good way to earn some extra. Them also will probably be a bit powerful but I see them as easy to drive as any other car. Just like at most of the rally games. What comes to missing of Audi Quattro and MG Metro 6R4, yes its a shame but then again its very nice to see cars like BX4TC to be included. Also these probably has been easiest ones to get. I mean Citroen,Renault,Peugeot and Ford already have cars on the game. Lancia is an Italian so it is just a must be :P .

I wont be surprised if later we will see a few group A cars aswell as a dowloadable content.

[Allyc85]

Oh yes :D :D :D

http://blog.milestone.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/WRC_Ford-RS200.jpg

[JRodrigues]

So now we see why the game isn't mod-friendly. Thank you very much, but (again :D ) no!

[306 Cosworth]

The sounds seem to get worse, what a load of ****! I can't play a game with a S2000 car sounding worse than an Evo!

[MrJan]

So now we see why the game isn't mod-friendly. Thank you very much, but (again :D ) no!

:rolleyes: How many times do we have to go through this before you understand? Most games developers cannot announce that their game is mod-friendly as it is likely to breach a number of copyright issues. This doesn't mean that you will never be able to mod anything, just that Milestone/Black Bean can't openly say that you can. I don't know of the set up with PC games but I'm fairly sure that the majority of mods are user created and involve messing about with different parameters to alter how the program runs, rather than a specific tool for modifying stuff.

Wait until the game is released, I'm fairly sure that some clever soul will have a hack and some mods sorted fairly quickly.

[Mixa]

Exactly like Mr Jan Yeo said. There are also many motorsport titles what company has said that you cant do nothing for it but people has always finded a way. If you want to be sure, go for the PC version. I´m pretty sure that people will find a way to liveries,new drivers,probably even new cars and even if there still will be sound issues,people will fix those too.

Its still amazing how much negativity the game seems to collect and just because of "RBR is better,I stick with it" . RBR also had many issues but people just dont seem to remember them anymore.

On WRC the game, atleast some of us stays positive until we have actually tried the game. I admit that there are some things I´m not happy with but I won´t care if it has some small issues is otherwise the game will be fun to drive,addictive,has a working online play and also gives a challenge in single player too.

Also I really hope that WRC The Game can challenge the competition. Its published on a very bad place because the big sports titles like NHL,NBA and of course FIFA will eat the number of players but also there are F12010 and GT5 to come+also some other games what isn´t a sports or motorsport title.

[marcel555]

Been a while since I last posted (can't remember when actually) but always have been following what's going on and actively following this thread.
Looking forward to finally an official WRC release again, after the last official release in 2005 if I am correct.
Comments so far on the game are very mixed, and indeed tend to be negative, however I agree with Mixa on this one to give it a chance and wait judging untill I have played it myself.
One thing is for sure, there never will be "the perfect rallygame" as there always will be issues which could be better or different.
There are as many opinions as there are gamers, and in the end the game developers always will compromise on one or several parts of the game.
Just recently played WRC3 and WRC4 again, and think the latter was the best, cos it is so playable and fun. WRC3 was annoying, and WRC5 I did not really like the handling. Alsomplayed RBR and CMR in the past, but WRC4 was my fave so far.
Let's see if the new WRC game will be more fun, at least I am very curious and eager to try it. Will buy pc version to start with.

[richy]

When's the ps3 demo available for download then, anyone know?

[lcd]

No news for demo release date so far...
My guess Is It will be around 15th September.

[J4MIE]

Sorry guys but everything I have seen/read about this game gives the impression that it is going to be a shocking game, after hearing what Pino had to say about it I was quite keen and was even thinking about buying an xbox to play it on but with every bit of news about it it making me want it even less :s I wish the developers luck but I will not be buying it :(

[pino]

The problem is that too many people looks at this game as a RBR sequel, and that's wrong and unfair towards Milestone. You can't compare them to Codies (or other big Companies), and pretends the same quality games, especially at their first attempt in a rallygame. I say give them time and let's support them and I am sure in a couple of years they will give us the perfect game we all want. And btw the final product isn't out yet so why so many negative judgments ? :s

[bennizw]

Group B video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIsb9zTpvpk&feature=player_embedded

[lcd]

I agree with pino. It's sad to see all those people crying out for a rally game, being so ironic about it. Maybe we should stop wondering why no company was Interested In rally games, the past 5 years...

[Neil J]

The problem is that too many people looks at this game as a RBR sequel,

It just goes to show what some people want/expect from the next rally game. I for one don`t want another poor arcade game for 7 year olds. I used get caught up in the hype for a game ie. Dirt and the awful Dirt2 and then I was always dissapointed. Not this time though, oh no, I`m being sensible and I wait till it`s been out a while to get some genuine reviews. Yeah I enjoyed the WRC games they were fun, but c`mon nothing comes close to RBR.


I want realism, it`s 2010 not 2001 :)

[Francis44]

I think consumers have the right to criticise the game, I mean games aren't cheap anymore, plus Im sure they had many other choices to the development and they choosed Milestone, so they have to make a good job :D .

[MrJan]

I want realism, it`s 2010 not 2001 :)

You won't get it with any game. The majority of people don't want a game that they can't play, they want to pick it up and have fun. I've said before that producing an out & out sim is bad business, people are crazy to even consider that this is what Milestone should aim for. I think that people really need to stop moaning about it not being another RBR, just quietly carry on modding and playing the old games.

[MrJan]

I think consumers have the right to criticise the game, I mean games aren't cheap anymore, plus Im sure they had many other choices to the development and they choosed Milestone, so they have to make a good job :D .

Consumers have the right to criticise when they have actually played the game :) At the minute people are making huge assumptions and complaining about a game that they've only seen a few videos of. By all means complain about the game when it comes out, but don't whinge on and on before have even got your hands on it :p :

xBox and PS3 owners will have the free demo to download, once people have actually messed around on that for a bit then I think it's okay to hear what people think is wrong with it.

[Francis44]

Consumers have the right to criticise when they have actually played the game :) At the minute people are making huge assumptions and complaining about a game that they've only seen a few videos of. By all means complain about the game when it comes out, but don't whinge on and on before have even got your hands on it :p :

xBox and PS3 owners will have the free demo to download, once people have actually messed around on that for a bit then I think it's okay to hear what people think is wrong with it.

Surely you sure have a point, and for our luck there are demos, but if there were no demos, you would be dissapointed because you just had spent 70 euros on a game that dosen't meet your expectations.

[Bruce D]

Mr Jan Yeo, do yourself a favour and never go onto the Virtualr.net site and read the comments there. Never met such a bunch of bitchers and moaners before - they have absoutely nothing positive to say about anything ever. Sad really.

Anyway, as far as WRC is concerned, I don't know what it is, maybe my uncontroable urge to get hold of my pre-ordered copy of F1 2010 or something, but nothing I've seen of this game is grabbing me at the moment. I'm not saying it a good or bad game, just something about it is not appealing and I honestly can't say what it is.

[MrJan]

Mr Jan Yeo, do yourself a favour and never go onto the Virtualr.net site and read the comments there. Never met such a bunch of bitchers and moaners before - they have absoutely nothing positive to say about anything ever. Sad really.

I think that I'll give it a miss, thanks :D :laugh:

[J4MIE]

My problem is that I don't have an XBox or PS3, so I will need to also buy a console to play the game - therefore it would have to be really good to persuade me to, I don't have a pc capable of playing modern games. While I don't really know about consoles these days I think the cheapest xbox is £140 or thereabouts? So it's a lot of money to me...

[rallyrazz]

My problem is that I don't have an XBox or PS3, so I will need to also buy a console to play the game - therefore it would have to be really good to persuade me to, I don't have a pc capable of playing modern games. While I don't really know about consoles these days I think the cheapest xbox is £140 or thereabouts? So it's a lot of money to me...

have you ever considered getting a ps3 off ebay? I woudn't recomend getting a 360 off ebay as many have had the dreaded 'red ring of death',(google it) or you cold invest in the new 360 slim, which comes in 4gb or 250 gb sizes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbox-360-Console-Hard-Drive/dp/B003UTUBQG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1283451776&sr=8-1

[Walach]

It´s true, both my friends which have X-Box have problems with 'red ring of death'...

[JRodrigues]

just carry on modding and playing the old games.

Will do :cool:

[Josti]

Group B video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIsb9zTpvpk&feature=player_embedded

Looks a bit too modern from the inside...

[lcd]

1. Buying the game means support our favourite sport.
2. Keep commenting things could have been better,
gives Milestone a motive to make next title better.

We should all do both! ;)

[lcd]

Just a fun video!!!!

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[lcd]

Italians: always with a great taste on women! :D

[MrMetro]

after finally getting a decent steering wheel for my ps3, I will be getting the game for ps3, looks better than the new F1 game thats coming out, imo.

[Allyc85]

after finally getting a decent steering wheel for my ps3, I will be getting the game for ps3, looks better than the new F1 game thats coming out, imo.

Really dont agree with you there mate, id say F1 2010 looks way more realistic and accurate with all the professional input theyve had. Still wont stop me buying WRC though :)

[MrMetro]

Really dont agree with you there mate, id say F1 2010 looks way more realistic and accurate with all the professional input theyve had. Still wont stop me buying WRC though :)

I don't know what it is, but theres something thats just putting me off f1 2010, maybe its the fact codemasters did race driver grid, which i didn't really like, as it wasn't a simulation, which i don't think f1 2010 will be either

[Allyc85]

I don't know what it is, but theres something thats just putting me off f1 2010, maybe its the fact codemasters did race driver grid, which i didn't really like, as it wasn't a simulation, which i don't think f1 2010 will be either

Yea fair point, Grid and Dirt were both rubbish IMO and I had my doubts as to if Codemasters could pull it off. Hopefully we will be very happy with both WRC and F1 :D

[JRodrigues]

I don't know what it is, but theres something thats just putting me off f1 2010, maybe its the fact codemasters did race driver grid, which i didn't really like, as it wasn't a simulation, which i don't think f1 2010 will be either

BlackBean did SBK and SuperStars! Magnificent games! :D

[lcd]

New footage here: some norrow Burlgarian roads,
a couple of big jumps In Finland, some new Turkey surfaces
and a couple of tight hairpins some were asking for!
Really can't wait for this! Give us 8th October tomorrow!!! :D

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[richy]

love that new video, not that i understood a word but hey ho! also the two brief glimpses that i think were GB stages looked pretty decent, lets see a full welsh forest stage please ;)

[lcd]

...lets see a full welsh forest stage...

Yes please...! With some fog, rain and lot of mud!!! :D

[Zelaieta Rally Team]

Yes ... Good video footage ...

Loving G.B Rally image ... It looks so similar to RBR muddy stage ... :)

[lcd]

Here's a new In-game video from Sweden! :s pin:
Fast and Intense-Looking just awesome!!!

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EDIT: That house on 0:33, looks so lethal. :D

[lcd]

A run In Portugal seen before, but this , has a better quality!

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[lcd]

Graphics look great but I'm concerned of the difficulty level of stages.
All tracks seen so far ( Including this one) are pretty open, fast stages
with no technical or ''scary'' parts...That's my only concern at this point...

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[lcd]

And a new preview:

http://www.vvvgamer.com/forum//showthread.php?t=8650

Please notice:
'...From struggling with understeer, suddenly it clicks, I'm really starting to feel the handling.
If I was to compare it, I would say it reminds me of Colin McRae 1 and 2 releases in the late 90's,
the inertia feels right, especially on the looser surfaces...'

[Walach]

And still gravel rims on tarmac stage. Funny.

[bennizw]

Graphics look great but I'm concerned of the difficulty level of stages.
All tracks seen so far ( Including this one) are pretty open, fast stages
with no technical or ''scary'' parts...That's my only concern at this point...

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I don´t think that is our only concern.

The VVS preview you posted is from the 21nd of July by the way.

[lcd]

I don´t think that is our only concern.

Didn't expect a new RBR, If that's what you mean! ;)
As for the difference In wheel/pad, I'd better try It myself to get the feeling!

[bennizw]

I am very concerned about the physics after watching that video.
But I love it when he says: "The hairpins in this game aren´t generally as in the classical sense". Hahahaha

[lcd]

Here's another one from Finland! That stage looks great imo!

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EDIT: Since car can rotate Itself (on 5:01)
I guess handling would be just fine! ;)

[Allyc85]

Looks like there is a good sense of speed in the game.

Now what to pre-order it for PC or Xbox 360?! ;)

[bennizw]

Hmm, still doesn´t look anything like Finland..

[cdnrally]

I've tried to stay optimistic about this game but sorry guys this game is looking like complete rubbish! This preview video by VVW makes it pretty clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG-JGUrmcTg

I have yet to find anything really encouraging about the game, only faults.

- As stated by Alain on VVW the game does not handle well with a wheel and it shows in the gameplay footage, they've managed to make a arcade racer hard to race!

- just terrible stage and environmental design. The stages look all the same and they have NO variety or sense of being real. I mean RBR's Japan stage looked like Japan, on this game the stages all look the same. Also, there are built in walls everywhere so you can just pinball down the stage. You re-spawn 10 yards beside the track and a forest stage (aka Japan) is laden with the sparsest amount of trees I've ever seen.

- No traditional hairpins?!!? The reviewer states and I quote, "I have yet to use the handbrake in the game". Oh dear....

- Horrendous pacenotes. Maybe the worst pacenotes ever in a rally game! Robotic, inaccurate, late, its complete amateur!

- The sounds are just pitiful, nuff said.

- Though there are some tighter sections, generally the stages are stupid wide and have no feeling of even being a road!

- Short stages. Whats new? Nothing. Like every other rally game ever created (minus RBR and M1RC) developers are scared ****less to make a rally stage over 4 mins!! btw, the first three stages in Rally NZ in WRC 2010 will take you less then 7 mins to complete. That puts the entire friggin rally at 15 mins total, that is just laughable!!

- the graphics are marginal at best. Dirt 2 (now a year old) makes WRC look 5 years old. Other then shadow details and some other small things the graphics are no better then RBR, a game 7 years old!

- the damage model from what has been shown is probably comparable with CMR3 a game nearing a decade old!

And before someone says,"How can you say its not good when you've not even tried it". Save your breath, the list of faults is not going to vanish just because I play it. The handling looks inaccurate and off, playing it will not change that. I've never once seen a game that looks bad changed after I played it. RBR looked amazing even before I touched it and it was amazing once I did. People that think differently are delusional.

I do hope some of you find this game enjoyable, sadly I won't be one of them.

Long live Richard Burns Rally!