Rally Finland 2010

[jonkka]

Loeb lost the rear spoiler

Front spoiler.

[Daniel]

Not only to sit here at Jukojärvi and listen those ****ing vuvuzelas, to find out Mikko has gone off..... Well, at least it's less warm today...
Jani Meldrew :p

[pettersolberg29]

Will JML be asked to finish on the podium and get some points for Ford, or go all out for the win do you think? I assume he will be asked to ignore Petter and focus on the factory Citroens.

[Tom206wrc]

HEY Hirvonen in SS4 ????? :eek: :confused:


Edit: OK he rolled following power steering failure :s

[Langdale Forest]

no, JML will probably go off the road, as always...

[WRC1]

big chance for petter to win this one, useless hirvonen is gone, seb loeb has lost spoiler and no other can go his speed..

now he should try to open a gap to loeb

[pettersolberg29]

Ogier has sneaked in a stage win here - very impressive for him on a rally which doesn't really suit him.

[J.Lindstroem]

Juha has returned to ridicule the future useless nobody stars and to show what a speciment he is....

If something is useless, its this comment. When did Juha ridicule anyone? I excpected him to be fast than AlQuassimi.

[Woodeye]

A real shame for Mikko. Especially if it was powersteering that broke down before the crash.

[mm1]

no, JML will probably go off the road, as always...

Juha has returned to ridicule the future useless nobody stars and to show what a speciment he is....

Hirvonen is really a future useless nobody now, because other people have said so...

Are you trying to proove you`re an idiot?

[Tom206wrc]

Would be fantastic if Sebastien Ogier gets a podium despite his lack of experience :D

[Halvis]

Mornin' guys! Anyone else having problems with stage-/split-times on wrc.com?

[Tom206wrc]

Mornin' guys! Anyone else having problems with stage-/split-times on wrc.com?



Yes me !!!! I was expecting these problems to disappear with new webpage(on previous one there were too kind of problems), but... :mad:

[Moriarty]

Mornin' guys! Anyone else having problems with stage-/split-times on wrc.com?
Try reload/F5

[MR666]

Try reload/F5

I have been posting about this in the website post.... it keeps craping out for me to.

Looks to not work if you have more then 1 page open, so I now have rally radio open in the pop up window, and now the site is working better.

[Mirek]

I have problems with splits also :(

[Miika]

Mikko´s wreck:
http://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/iDoc/2230360-2230360-1-1280573309.jpg

[Halvis]

Toothing problems hopefully...

Next stage starts now, but difficult to follow then.

[Tom206wrc]

Now start of last stage before joining the assistance service(SS5) :cool:

[A.F.F.]

Please Langdale Forest, can you help me? My future seems pretty useless now that Mikko rolled off :(

[Tom206wrc]

Mikko´s wreck:
http://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/iDoc/2230360-2230360-1-1280573309.jpg


:s

[pettersolberg29]

Mikko´s wreck:
http://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/iDoc/2230360-2230360-1-1280573309.jpg

Wow - lucky to walk out of that one.

[HFAlex]

]I have problems with splits also :(

Here at the service park it's the same.. :(

[Mirek]

Mikko´s wreck:
http://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/iDoc/2230360-2230360-1-1280573309.jpg

Au, that was huge...

[User]

I think no restart for Mikko tomorrow.

[Miika]

Another pic:
http://yle.fi/ecepic/neon3/archive/00335/Mikko_Hirvonen_335111b.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier 0.5" faster than Loeb on split one...wonder if Loeb's lack of spoiler will make him lose more or not on this stage :confused:

[jonkka]

JML on speed - let's see if that means he will take the fight to Petter. I sure hope so.

[Tom206wrc]

Latvala fastest by now(split two) ;)

[bennizw]

How did Loeb lose his spoiler by the way?

[Tom206wrc]

Wow Ogier 3.8" faster than Loeb on split three :confused:

Edit: and now -4.8" on split four :s

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb still hindered by lack of spoiler - he's being 'demolished'.

[N.O.T]

pity for mikko, but thats what you might get when you push hard....he should try that tactic on more rallies not just 2 in the season.....Lets hope latvala can keep the pace up.

[MR666]

Mikko´s wreck:
http://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/iDoc/2230360-2230360-1-1280573309.jpg

Bugger me that is f**ked.

[Tom206wrc]

Even Wilslow faster than Seb Loeb on split 1 :mark:

[N.O.T]

how you get working results ...i cannot see anything on wrc.com

[snellman]

pity for mikko, but thats what you might get when you push hard....he should try that tactic on more rallies not just 2 in the season.....Lets hope latvala can keep the pace up.
you are freaking me out, get back to normal!

[jonkka]

how you get working results ...i cannot see anything on wrc.com

Just keep trying...

[jonkka]

So far, JML has cut Petter's advantage to a half...

[Tom206wrc]

Latvala 9" faster than Loeb(fastest time) on penultimate split ;)

[jonkka]

Look at Sordo's splits! :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

Sordo fastest so far on split 4 :eek:

[N.O.T]

crazy attack by sordo....nice.

[N.O.T]

damn so much for the break...back to work again... :(

[Miika]

From Ralliradio´s facebook page:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs094.ash2/38024_1248353589425_1847011081_478793_2962081_n.jp g

[Mirek]

Maybe it's better for Sordo not to be second driver in first team...

[jonkka]

One glitch for JML and it's another Citroen 1-2-3-4

[Juha_Koo]

I'm just on a liason from Jukojärvi 1 to Sirkkamäki. I don't know if someone has already told you details about Mikko's off, the corner where he rolled is Mikko's favourite place, a very high speed right hander over a jump and they fly sideways for a pretty long time. Most likely Mikko has had some steering problems (Krisse Sohlberg talked about a power steering failure) because the place isn't so called "action place". Ofcourse there's always a chance that Mikko just came too fast to the corner.

In our place in Jukojärvi one UAE Fiesta visited the ditch and it took four minutes to get it back on to the road. Now towards Sirkkamäki.

[Miika]

Apparently Mikko broke the power steering in a jump before the right-hander and then went into the right-hander with the broken steering and rolled big time. (?)

EDIT: And no super-rally for Mikko either.

[bluuford]

Where is ketomaa?
What happened to Östberg?
Good morning to everybody ;-)

Edit: he is ok. No splits

[Juha_Koo]

Where is ketomaa?
What happened to Östberg?
Good morning to everybody ;-)

Östberg spinned. Where is Ketomaa? What do you mean? He's leading S2000s.

[bluuford]

Apparently Mikko broke the power steering in a jump before the right-hander and then went into the right-hander with the broken steering and rolled big time. (?)

EDIT: And no super-rally for Mikko either.

If they manage to repair his car and superally it then I promise I will eat my sock I used in yesterdays football game :-)

[dimviii]

wrc.com is f$%^ :vader:

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=385&filtr=

[Juha_Koo]

Apparently Mikko broke the power steering in a jump before the right-hander and then went into the right-hander with the broken steering and rolled big time. (?)

EDIT: And no super-rally for Mikko either.

Yes, this is the most likely scenario because after the jump there's no proper corners for 300 metres. So the corner where he rolled is the first place after the jump where you really need to turn the wheel.

[noel157]

How did Loeb lose his spoiler by the way?

Front spoiler below bumper, presume bad landing or a bank/ditch.

[Mirek]

Hänninen strikes back. Ketomaa's lead cut to almost nothing. Big fight!

[noel157]

Did Kankkunen get a 10 sec penalty? Anybody know why?

[Tom206wrc]

Östberg ??? :confused:


Edit: OK spinned...but 3' lost is much :s

[Roy]

Did Kankkunen get a 10 sec penalty? Anybody know why?

http://wrc.com/results/2010/neste-oil-rally-finland/penalties/

Jump start

[bluuford]

On the previous stage there was big rock on the line. Salo hit that Rock with the front. Tänak managed to avoid it with the front but hit it with the rear wheel and bent the wheel and drove last stage with bent rear wheel. Also Ketomäki hit it and broke the tire. and many other drivers seems to have hit it.

[noel157]

http://wrc.com/results/2010/neste-oil-rally-finland/penalties/

Jump start

Thank you Roy.

[Sulland]

]Hänninen strikes back. Ketomaa's lead cut to almost nothing. Big fight!

So cool with two top class fights, with both WRC and SWRC. Impressive that the S2000 cars beat the GrN cars with so much on the fast stages.

[Tom206wrc]

On the previous stage there was big rock on the line. Salo hit that Rock with the front. Tänak managed to avoid it with the front but hit it with the rear wheel and bent the wheel and drove last stage with bent rear wheel. Also Ketomäki hit it and broke the tire. and many other drivers seems to have hit it.



Is it also the case of Nikara ??? He's losing time since SS4 and 5... :confused:

[noel157]

Listening (well almost listening...) to Becs interviewing Quesnel on RR what was the discussion about when Becs asked him "is there a budget available?" Anybody know?

[Sulland]

crazy attack by sordo....nice.

He can drive, also on gravel. Strange that the man from Spain has never been allowed to win, but the new Seb was allowed once he had the chance. And he is also French is'nt he....... :vader:

[Tom206wrc]

A little bit more than one hour before start SS6 ;)

[blissard]

Östberg ??? :confused:

Edit: OK spinned...but 3' lost is much :s


Puncture

[N.O.T]

very nice rally so far....hope Loeb pushes a bit more, same for ogier so the battle then will be epic !!! but i think its vital for the citroen guys to let Latvala lead the way tommorow and follow his lines plus if there is little sweeping they can take advantage of....

I would like Latvala to win since he deserves a win in his home rally, or maybe Solberg so we can all have a bath in finnish tears.....the dillema is big....Latvala or tear bath ???? Hmmmmm...

I think Ketomaa is ready for a proper rally car to mix it with the big boys where he probably belongs....

A bit dissapointed at Juhas times....i would expect him to be better than Kimmi at least who is also useless here losing ONCE more to wilson...pfffft

[N.O.T]

Also i must say i prefer this 2 day format....

[RS]

Gardemeister's pace is a little disappointing. Maybe it was a mistake to come back with not much recent experience, I don't think it's doing his aim of showing that he is a good choice for teams for the new era of WRCars much help :(

[N.O.T]

Gardemeister's pace is a little disappointing. Maybe it was a mistake to come back with not much recent experience, I don't think it's doing his aim of showing that he is a good choice for teams for the new era of WRCars much help :(

he had his chance in WRC....now its just fun for him....he knows the good days are over.

[Fide]

very nice rally so far....hope Loeb pushes a bit more, same for ogier so the battle then will be epic !!! but i think its vital for the citroen guys to let Latvala lead the way tommorow and follow his lines plus if there is little sweeping they can take advantage of....

I would like Latvala to win since he deserves a win in his home rally, or maybe Solberg so we can all have a bath in finnish tears.....the dillema is big....Latvala or tear bath ???? Hmmmmm...

I think Ketomaa is ready for a proper rally car to mix it with the big boys where he probably belongs....

A bit dissapointed at Juhas times....i would expect him to be better than Kimmi at least who is also useless here losing ONCE more to wilson...pfffft

NO DOUBT PETTER for sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His efforts MUST payoff

[I am evil Homer]

Gardemeister's pace is a little disappointing. Maybe it was a mistake to come back with not much recent experience, I don't think it's doing his aim of showing that he is a good choice for teams for the new era of WRCars much help :(

He's simply not up to it. He had his chance and didn't really impress - maybe some lack of pace is a confidence thing but he's always been a second tier driver. Solid but nothing more.

[Halvis]

Puncture

And he stopped to change the wheel.

[J.Lindstroem]

Also i must say i prefer this 2 day format....

Yeah since the rallies are shorter nowadays it is almost stupid to have three days with like 6 stages each day.. better to have nine in to days instead!

[Mirek]

During Ypres, they have even almost 200 km of stages in one leg and noone complains :)

[J.Lindstroem]

]During Ypres, they have even almost 200 km of stages in one leg and noone complains :)

I would prefer that. Its actually quite lame with big pauses between the stages all the time. Better with som more action when you are spectating!

[J.Lindstroem]

Im going for Petter this weekend. As someone stated, his efforts have to pay off soon. It is unfair... And imagine the show we are gonna get tomorrow if he wins!

[bluuford]

Is it also the case of Nikara ??? He's losing time since SS4 and 5... :confused:
Might be the case. There were only couple of cars between them.

[Allar]

Good fight between Tänak, Salo and Lindroos.

[Mirek]

Might be the case. There were only couple of cars between them.

Kresta might have hit the stone also. He reported bent suspension arm.

[Roy]

Q & A: Ford boss on Hirvonen's crash

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85654

[Francis44]

Just woke up and opened WRC page, and BAAM Mikko out in my face, I wasn't expecting that.

[Julle69]

Ketomaa has problems, he is stopped on the way to Lankamaa (SS6)...

[Tom206wrc]

SS6 on the way ;)

[jonkka]

Ogi still faster - Luub biding his time?

[Mirek]

Ketomaa has problems, he is stopped on the way to Lankamaa (SS6)...

No, please, he deserves to continue...

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier a bit faster than Latvala and Loeb on split one :)


Edit: Ogier lost 0.8s on second one :mark:

[Camelopard]

He can drive, also on gravel. Strange that the man from Spain has never been allowed to win, but the new Seb was allowed once he had the chance. And he is also French is'nt he....... :vader:

and why exactly are you surprised by that?

[J.Lindstroem]

Ketomaa has problems, he is stopped on the way to Lankamaa (SS6)...

That sucks for him! He really deserves the win here on his home event.

[jonkka]

JML seems to be on his way to lead

[bluuford]

Looks like the thunderstorm cut a lot of trees on stage 8 and forestry guys spent many hours since 5AM to clear the road. Road is now clean but some cuts might be filled with all kind of debris.

[Tom206wrc]

Latvala may take the lead after this 24km long stage :rolleyes:

[RS]

He's simply not up to it. He had his chance and didn't really impress - maybe some lack of pace is a confidence thing but he's always been a second tier driver. Solid but nothing more.

I'm inclined to agree. I really like Toni, and he is a good solid driver on all surfaces but perhaps missing that last little bit of speed and it shows here as there are some very fast drivers in S2000 cars here.

Toni would still be a good choice for 2nd driver in a WRC team, if there were lots of teams, but sadly there are not yet (even with Mini coming along)

Really hope to see Ketomaa continue, the battle between him and Hanninen is one of the most interesting things in this rally at the moment.

[pettersolberg29]

Henning going for it.

[Halvis]

Latvala may take the lead after this 24km long stage :rolleyes:

Possibly. Hopefully for Petter, it's better to be second tomorrow. I guess we will have a cat and mouse game towards the last stage, whoo will slow down and who will not.

Henning clearly fastest on split 3!

[Tom206wrc]

Henning is flying too :eek:

[bluuford]

Looks like all the limiters were turned off in Latvalas car. referring to the interview:
Q. Jari-Matti can still win though?

MW: I don't see any reason why not, yes. He's made a couple of little mistakes that he knows about. We will maybe make a couple of small spec changes when he gets to service.

Q. Are they to speed the car up?

MW: They're to give him a bit better feeling in certain conditions.

[Halvis]

Petter still leads - by 0.1 sec!

[bretddog]

what fuel did they give Henning's car ?? lol.. Did he leave without Ilka ?

[Halvis]

what fuel did they give Henning's car ?? lol.. Did he leave without Ilka ?

Henning will be third on this one. He seems to ALWAYS lose time towards stage endings.

[pettersolberg29]

Henning overtakes Loeb in the overall standings.

[Miika]

Mikko´s big hit&roll this morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWys2oa2JJA

[jonkka]

Henning overtakes Loeb in the overall standings.

:eek: What a rally...

[jonkka]

Mikko´s big hit&roll this morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWys2oa2JJA

Thanks! Though the reason for roll isn't visible on it.

[Huima]

Two more videos:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/YLE-Ralliradio/124998597529098?ref=ts#!/video/video.php?v=119868174727663&oid=124998597529098

http://www.facebook.com/pages/YLE-Ralliradio/124998597529098?ref=ts#!/video/video.php?v=1543871240644&oid=124998597529098

[Halvis]

Mikko´s big hit&roll this morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWys2oa2JJA

Very, very lucky indeed, all those rolls and not hitting a single tree!

[jonkka]

results froze

[jonkka]

Two more videos:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/YLE-Ralliradio/124998597529098?ref=ts#!/video/video.php?v=119868174727663&oid=124998597529098

Urgh... One needs facebook account to see those...

[Julle69]

Ketomaa has not started to SS6, still not sure what's the problem is, looks bad for him...

[Roy]

]Yes, 25 minutes late. Got the information late. Good that he continues but the penalty is over 4 minutes :(

But he fly!

[Mirek]

Anyone knows what sort of problems Nikara has? He hasn't improved after service.

[Tom206wrc]

Östberg and Qassimi ???? :confused:

[bluuford]

Looks like Lindroos is missing and looks like Ketomaa has overtook two cars on stage already and still faster than Hanninen :-)

[jonkka]

Khalid went off, Östberg's time is missing (I think he finished)

[Mirek]

Ketomaa is driving insane!

[RS]

Hanninen faster than Wilson and Raikkonen on that one!

[Francis44]

How come is Ogier faster than Loeb on a rally that he as done 5 or more times?!

Let's see how Petter Solberg does on this one.

[Mirek]

Hanninen faster than Wilson and Raikkonen on that one!

Seems like they didn't tell him that Ketomaa was out :D

[jonkka]

Petter loses the lead, JML is 1st now

[bluuford]

Huh.. I can put my socks back to my cupboard...
3 M. HIRVONEN (FIN)
Ford Focus RS WRC 09 A8 4 Offroad
That means no superally

[hari]

Ketomaa started the stage very late.

[Pinto]

]Seems like they didn't tell him that Ketomaa was out :D

Ketomaa has started the stage he was late out of service

[Mirek]

Yes, 25 minutes late. Got the information late. Good that he continues but the penalty is over 4 minutes :(

[N.O.T]

ok....who broke the forum ???

[jonkka]

G' morning

[N.O.T]

stage is on but no times by wrc.com ....

[N.O.T]

latvala attacks....

[N.O.T]

we have rain.....but they say it is going to dry soon....Solberg loses 3.1 seconds down.

[N.O.T]

Solberg didn't sound happy at all....

[N.O.T]

Ogier fastest so far 1 second faster than latvala...still no info at all from WRC.com

[jonkka]

Vysledky has times - if you don't want to calculate them yourself...

[N.O.T]

i know yes...and splits just fired up on wrc.com :)

[N.O.T]

Kankkunen beats Kimi like a dog without an owner...and Wilson i think its next...

[N.O.T]

Raikonen stopped...

[N.O.T]

massive time lost in the middle for kankkunen :(

[A.F.F.]

Kimi went just off right in front of our eyes. Front damaged but he could continue, lost about five minutes... SS12.

[jonkka]

Har har...

[N.O.T]

still no time for him maybe he retired a few Kms after.

[A.F.F.]

I don't understand how the front got damaged because he went off with rear first?? But he looked rather pissed off. And I got it on video :D

[N.O.T]

now he finished the stage...10mins lost.

[pettersolberg29]

Petter seems to be collapsing under the pressure. Very disappointed - could be 4th by the end of this stage as its quite a long one.

[jonkka]

Loeb is pushing, -2.1 at split 2 :eek:

[René]

Loeb -3.1 at split 3

[N.O.T]

Loeb is going to take around 8-10 seconds on this one from Latvala.

[jonkka]

I think Petter just lost 2nd overall...

[N.O.T]

Ok now Latvala has to start pushing because he has real competition behind him now....

[N.O.T]

7.3 at the end....nice.

[Miika]

Oh noes it´s Seb 1.0 again.

[Tomi]

Loeb will win take rally.

[jonkka]

60 kilometers to go before stages get repeated - JML lost a little over 7 secs to Loeb over 30 kilometers. It could be tight but both Sebs' must push really hard to take the win.

[N.O.T]

i trust latvala can pull it off if the ford management lets him...

[bluuford]

I think it was 40 km

[jonkka]

i trust latvala can pull it off if the ford management lets him...

Even for a sick dog? :eek:

[jonkka]

I think it was 40 km

Quite so, my bad.

EDIT: No, I had to look again. I was right. Remaining stages:

SS14 Surkee 1 19.59
SS15 Leutsu 1 21.35
SS16 Himos 1 20.63

It's just that service park is confusingly between SS14 and SS15 and then again after repeated SS17.

EDIT 2: Typo in SS15 name courtesy of wrc.com, I am not going to correct it. :D

[pettersolberg29]

Petter could still challenge if sweeping is an issue on the 3 next stages. I don't know if its true or not, but Solberg seems to think he's slow as he's got no experience of these stages - hopefully his extensive experience on the next 3 will bring him back to the pace to challenge JML and Little Seb - Loeb is best ignored as he's too fast.

[René]

Kimi didn't start this stage or it's just late for the start???

[bluuford]

Quite so, my bad.

EDIT: No, I had to look again. I was right. Remaining stages:

SS14 Surkee 1 19.59
SS15 Leutsu 1 21.35
SS16 Himos 1 20.63

It's just that service park is confusingly between SS14 and SS15 and then again after repeated SS17.

EDIT 2: Typo in SS15 name courtesy of wrc.com, I am not going to correct it. :D

I meant they did 40 km by now not 30 :-) And Vaarinmaja is also the stage where the sweeping might be the biggest issue.

[Tomi]

I meant they did 40 km by now not 30 :-) And Vaarinmaja is also the stage where the sweeping might be the biggest issue.

not really, it gets a bigger issue when the roads gets more dry, and they are soon dry.

[Tomi]

Some moron spectator tried to steal Hirvonens notes yesterday after the accident, fortunatly some other spectator notised it and took the notes back.

[wwbroe]

Looks like Kuipers also went off the road, does somebody have more info about them?

[Tomi]

Looks like Kuipers also went off the road, does somebody have more info about them?

they vent off after a jump, the crew is ok

[wwbroe]

they vent off after a jump, the crew is ok

Ok, thanks for the info Tomi :)

[jonkka]

Here we go again...

[jonkka]

Petter loses time...

[pettersolberg29]

What is wrong with the man? He'll never win again if he can't show a bit of clinical driving - this was a great chance.

[jonkka]

Citroen attack is not on track...

[jonkka]

Lots of interesting names on the start list...

Alen
Hämäläinen
Mäkinen
Salonen
unfortunately none of them are previous winners of this rally...

[The D Man]

What happend to kimi?

[Xsara Fan]

Petter loses time...

May be Citroen asked him to help Loeb?

[wwbroe]

What happend to kimi?

He went off on first stage this morning.

[Tom206wrc]

Victory is for sure to Latvala now!!! Ogier, Solberg and Loeb are too far behind(more than 20") ;)

[Tom206wrc]

]Anyone knows what sort of problems Nikara has? He hasn't improved after service.

I'm interested in the answer too :confused:

Today(under Superrally)Nikara is doing OK, even a great 9th time in long SS13 :)

[John V]

I'm interested in the answer too :confused:

Today(under Superrally)Nikara is doing OK, even a great 9th time in long SS13 :)

NIKARA J. / NIKARA P. (st. č. 65) "Today is quite well. Yesterday we had problem with front diff. Just now we were too wide and hit some stone by rear."

[snellman]

that ford is fighting alot of citroens :D

[WRC1]

Victory is for sure to Latvala now!!! Ogier, Solberg and Loeb are too far behind(more than 20") ;)

ohhhh no tom! still 100k´s to go! with a lot of corners and we all know that jari matti is good for a stunt in every corner..


but i wish him that he makes it to the finish, to make the finnish fans happy ;)

[Salist]

Another big crash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23epBdgDPpc&feature=player_embedded

[Tom206wrc]

NIKARA J. / NIKARA P. (st. č. 65) "Today is quite well. Yesterday we had problem with front diff. Just now we were too wide and hit some stone by rear."


Thanks John ;)
I suspected engine problem, as too often with the 207 unfortuneately, but it was something else this time :rolleyes:

[snellman]

Another big crash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23epBdgDPpc&feature=player_embedded
it looks huge, but when it rolls like that it is actually not that bad.

[Salist]

Henning crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGDklPdIgU

[vkangas]

MTV3 katsomo lagging annoyingly sometimes... Is anybody else having samo problems or is it my connection?

[Mirek]

Does anyone know why Rantanen retired?

[Tom206wrc]

ohhhh no tom! still 100k´s to go! with a lot of corners and we all know that jari matti is good for a stunt in every corner..


but i wish him that he makes it to the finish, to make the finnish fans happy ;)



Look at current SS15 !!!! The Citroëns can't gain lot of time on Latvala(even Loeb don't) :mark:

[jonkka]

Petter may drop to 4th

[Tomi]

]Does anyone know why Rantanen retired?

He did drive in to someones yard, and there hit tree stump. :)

[WRC1]

it is getting closer and closer for the win! fantastic race, top4 in 25 seconds after this stage!

[Tom206wrc]

Finally Ogier gained 6" on Latvala(and Loeb could be more) :confused:

[Mirek]

He did drive in to someones yard, and there hit tree stump. :)

Thanks. Sorry to bother with that but don't You know also why Ketomaa retired on same stage? I just got to PC today :)

[Tom206wrc]

Östberg passes KKK ;)

[WRC1]

Östberg passes KKK ;)

...and will pass slowson before the end of the race...

[Tomi]

]Thanks. Sorry to bother with that but don't You know also why Ketomaa retired on same stage? I just got to PC today :)

unfortunatly,no idea

[bretddog]

Petter clearly blew his chances yesterday. He should have made a difference when he could from a good road position and start today at +0 to Latvala. But he was not taking any risks at all. That's not the way to fight for a rally Finland victory. Doesn't sound like he's yet taking much risks today either.. Where is his "on the doorhandles" comment?

[Tomi]

The next one is very dry, will be intersting to see how much J-M will loose.

[Miika]

Kimi´s adventure into the Finnish forrest this morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJHb5bt0h38

[wwbroe]

unfortunatly,no idea

Seems like he ripped right rear wheel off. :D

[Tom206wrc]

But Solberg and Ogier are slower than Latvala now :confused:

[Mirek]

Seems like he ripped right rear wheel off. :D

That was yesterday.

[jonkka]

WHAT is going on? TV results say Sarrazin is 1st?

Then Ostberg did NOT drive the stage till the end but he's got time on wrc.com?!? :eek:

[Ucci]

Impressive stage time on SS16 from M.Ostberg!!

[Tom206wrc]

So 12"3 between Latvala and Ogier and 3 stages left to go :)

[pettersolberg29]

Only 3 stages left aren't there?

[jonkka]

Only 3 stages left aren't there?

Aye

[bluuford]

Yes, three repeated stages left. Lindroos disappeared again?

[René]

Yes 3 stages left...

[jonkka]

Lindroos disappeared again?

Rolled on live TV.

[bluuford]

Lindroos offroad on Himos. I wonder if all 4 leading cars stay on the road on the last Himos stage. On the second run many things might happen there.

[Sulland]

Impressive stage time on SS16 from M.Ostberg!!

Yes very much so, he has speed and skills to follow the fastest in the right car.

[jonkka]

It's starting to rain

[Mirek]

unfortunatly,no idea

Oil leak from gearbox for Ketomaa. Maybe after some heavy landing.

[John V]

It's starting to rain
Over Surkee?

[Tom206wrc]

It's starting to rain



A trap for Latvala :p :

[pettersolberg29]

I'll be surprised if one of Ogier or JML don't have an incident as they battle at the front - I imagine both are desperate for the win and both have been known to push a bit too hard on occasion! Loeb is still in with a great chance of victory.

[jonkka]

Over Surkee?

I don't know that but it rained on Himos when later cars came. It was very light though...

[Tomi]

]Oil leak from gearbox for Ketomaa. Maybe after some heavy landing.

much possible, a pity his rally vent in the drain because technical problems, good thing is that before that he showed what the pace is, else the s2000 has been much as expected, only from P-G I expected a bit more, this year he has not been showing much.

[John V]

I don't know that but it rained on Himos when later cars came. It was very light though...
Ok, thanks. We will see.

[Tom206wrc]

SS17 on the way ;)

[wwbroe]

Does anybody know what happened with Flodin?

[bttmsport]

Another big crash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23epBdgDPpc&feature=player_embedded

Subaru guys were lucky, medical copter had just landed to examine Al Qassimis codriver (they rolled earlier in same spot) so they could get good help, codriver was well shaken and later ambulance was called to pick him up. Another Evo8 was wasted before they cancelled the rest of the stage. Llovera also lost his front wheel/steering arm and had to stop but was repaired for Saturday. Other cars were definitely not fixed for Saturday...

[The D Man]

Is there any live footage?

[jonkka]

Is there any live footage?

Last stage was live on local telly...

[J.Lindstroem]

much possible, a pity his rally vent in the drain because technical problems, good thing is that before that he showed what the pace is, else the s2000 has been much as expected, only from P-G I expected a bit more, this year he has not been showing much.

He is driving on maximum. I just think Ketomaa and Hänninen is faster. A bit suprised that he was slower than Sandell yesterday though...

[Ghostwalker]

Does anybody know what happened with Flodin?
Yes.

They started to get problems on SS5, first they though that it was the driveshaft that went broken but it turned out to be a shaft in the gearbox.
However the mechanics managed to fix that at the service.

Then on SS8 yesterday they damaged the frontright shock absorber and had to drive with it the last 4 stages yesterday

Then Today on SS14 the engine lost its oilpressure and it was game over for Flodin.

[J.Lindstroem]

Does anybody know what happened with Flodin?

His engine broke down on ss14!

[jonkka]

Ogier is pushing - if JML is faster than in the 1st run Ogi is clearly faster...

[wwbroe]

Yes.

They started to get problems on SS5, first they though that it was the driveshaft that went broken but it turned out to be a shaft in the gearbox.
However the mechanics managed to fix that at the service.

Then on SS8 yesterday they damaged the frontright shock absorber and had to drive with it the last 4 stages.

Then Today on SS14 the engine lost its oilpressure and it was game over for Flodin.

Thank you for the info :)

[Tom206wrc]

10"6 between Latvala and Ogier after SS17 ;)

[jonkka]

10"6 between Latvala and Ogier after SS17 ;)

Who says it wasn't correct decision to put Ogi on works seat for this rally? :D

[Mirek]

And 13 between Ogier and Loeb and 5,4 between Loeb and Petter.

[Salist]

Live coverage anywhere?

[jonkka]

So Ostberg is still on the rally? Our telly missed him completely on the live TV stage (SS16)... har har...

[Tomi]

Normally Latvalas gap should be enough, impossible to catch by driving, only there is often ground stones in the narrow part in Himos stage, it would not be the first time some one loose a tyre there.

[Tom206wrc]

Who says it wasn't correct decision to put Ogi on works seat for this rally? :D


After two stages Sordo was ahead and it looked his experience of the rally would have made the situation last... :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Two hours to wait before final two stages to start :s

[Tom206wrc]

32" between Wilslow and Östberg...will Mads manage to take the 7th ??? ;)

[Tomi]

Hänninen has already lifted the car 3cm from yesterday, and will in service lift more, so this day is safe mode already.

[bluuford]

Nice commnet by Tänak:
TÄNAK O. / SIKK K. (st. č. 40) "Is not that easy. Rock everywhere. At the moment we moving like tourists. I want finish."

[Tomi]

Nice commnet by Tänak:
TÄNAK O. / SIKK K. (st. č. 40) "Is not that easy. Rock everywhere. At the moment we moving like tourists. I want finish."

He is a quite good driver, hopefully things works out for him in the future.

[JFL]

32" between Wilslow and Östberg...will Mads manage to take the 7th ??? ;)
He's fighting for 6th.. I think it can be done, but maybe just a couple of seconds too much..

[Mirek]

Crash of Henning also from outside: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MH1wypi9Y4

[Red bull]

Who says it wasn't correct decision to put Ogi on works seat for this rally? :D
Ogier has already started stealing loebs show at citroen and so is latvala for hirvonen,seems the no 2s are up for something....coup attempt? :D :D :D

[Miika]

Top 5 in the first run of Himos stage, with Ogier having one major moment and then taking a line of his own before the last corner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtnPtBP96fo

[jonkka]

Ogier has already started stealing loebs show at citroen and so is latvala for hirvonen,seems the no 2s are up for something....coup attempt? :D :D :D

I was thinking the same earlier today.

[Sulland]

He's fighting for 6th.. I think it can be done, but maybe just a couple of seconds too much..
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
32" between Wilslow and Östberg

He took 37+ seconds on the first loop today, so it can be done !

[Sulland]

32" between Wilslow and Östberg...will Mads manage to take the 6th ??? ;)

He took 37+ seconds on the first loop today, so it can be done !

[Red bull]

No wonder loeb was so keen to see ogier move to ford as he expected this to happen,problem is its happened so soon and i think it will send loeb to early retirement. :s mokin: :s mokin:

[Salist]

Top 5 in the first run of Himos stage, with Ogier having one major moment and then taking a line of his own before the last corner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtnPtBP96fo

huuuh...it was really hard. Ogier pushed very hard. Go Jari-Matti!!!!

[xavier]

How come the top 5 is inverted? is that a decision any rally can take or does it need FIA aggrement?

[John V]

How come the top 5 is inverted? is that a decision any rally can take or does it need FIA aggrement?
It was scheduled earlier prior the race, just not info how many crews (from which position) will be reverted for last TV stages.

[vkangas]

How come the top 5 is inverted? is that a decision any rally can take or does it need FIA aggrement?

I'm not sure but assume that this can be done for TV broadcasts...

[Josti]

Split times bug on wrc.com is terrible!