Rally Finland 2010

[SubaruNorway]

^^ At least I haven't seen any such service provided by the organizers this year. Start and end points are at the spectators guide, but I don't know are they downloadable anywhere. There are no GPS marks for spectator points or parking areas, so you have to go old school for them.

Maybe in rally guide 2 if anyone had the password...

[Tomi]

Why would a Swede be thinking of grilling strong beer?
It sounds dangerous, won't the cans go KA-BOOOOM?

Maybe best they stick to lätt-öl....

Now after you said that, and after a bit more thinking, maybe its better to stick to pripps, much safer, for everyone. :)

[janvanvurpa]

Now after you said that, and after a bit more thinking, maybe its better to stick to pripps, much safer, for everyone. :)

Okej, cause if the Swedish boy is thinking of grilling Finnish stark öl now, then what sort of crazy ideas would he come up with once he pours in a couple of beers?

But Pripps, isn't that a little too harsh?

Maybe you guys could instruct the Swedes on a) how to use grill, b) how to drink beer. I mean it makes sense in the context sine the Finns have been teaching the Swedes how to drive fast for about 3 decades now, they used to do OK, now the need schooling, maybe they've forgotten how to grill and drink beer därborta i grannlandet till Väst.

[Koppomsbo]

Okej, cause if the Swedish boy is thinking of grilling Finnish stark öl now, then what sort of crazy ideas would he come up with once he pours in a couple of beers?

But Pripps, isn't that a little too harsh?

Maybe you guys could instruct the Swedes on a) how to use grill, b) how to drink beer. I mean it makes sense in the context sine the Finns have been teaching the Swedes how to drive fast for about 3 decades now, they used to do OK, now the need schooling, maybe they've forgotten how to grill and drink beer därborta i grannlandet till Väst.

Vi gör så gott we can :D ;)

[Rallyper]

Now after you said that, and after a bit more thinking, maybe its better to stick to pripps, much safer, for everyone. :)

For me Black Koff every evening on the event... :beer:

[Tomi]

For me Black Koff every evening on the event... :beer:
Good Choice :)

[pino]

I couldn't have chosen a better event to watch WRC cars for the last time, so I can't wait to get on that plane to Helsinki :D

[ProRally]

Me too, next week wednesday .....

[Koppomsbo]

Anyone got any good tips about a cheap accomendation near the airport in Helsinki from Saturday to Sunday?

[Hartusvuori]

Anyone got any good tips about a cheap accomendation near the airport in Helsinki from Saturday to Sunday?

How near exactly? Cheapest hotel rooms I guess come from Omena Hotels, but their hotels in Helsinki are downtown, not near the airport. There are several airport hotels of course, but they don't necessarily meet with the requirement of being cheap.

http://www.omenahotels.com/fi/

[Tomi]

Anyone got any good tips about a cheap accomendation near the airport in Helsinki from Saturday to Sunday?

http://www.ava.fi/frontpage_AVA

About 10-15 mins from the airport.

[Koppomsbo]

thanks :)

will send them some emails

[vkangas]

Hotels just by airport are also worth checking. They are not always expensive. I remember staying in one for about 70EUR/night. I can't recall the name, but it might have been Bonus Inn, they seem to have good discounts from list prices.

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Finland http://planetemarcus.free.fr/googleearthmap.htm

[fugu]

Hotels just by airport are also worth checking. They are not always expensive. I remember staying in one for about 70EUR/night. I can't recall the name, but it might have been Bonus Inn, they seem to have good discounts from list prices.

http://www.helsinki-vantaa.fi/hotels

[Daniel]

Just sleep in the airport like me and kabouter did in 2005 :p

[Juha_Koo]

According to my sources the real testing in Finland begins tomorrow... Wrooom!

[pantealex]

According to my sources the real testing in Finland begins tomorrow... Wrooom!
2 blue Ford trucks (MB and Iveco) with little trailers were in Hotelli Jämsä´s parking place today...

[Juha_Koo]

2 blue Ford trucks (MB and Iveco) with little trailers were in Hotelli Jämsä´s parking place today...

A familiar place - a real Ford team favourite I guess. :D I'm just counting hours here in Sotku, the so called "vacation-TJ" is under 24 hours. Then, hmm, something. :s mokin:

[fugu]

According to my sources the real testing in Finland begins tomorrow... Wrooom!

Kimi already started today:

http://www.iltalehti.fi/ralli/2010072012068942_ri.shtml

[bluuford]

Just sleep in the airport like me and kabouter did in 2005 :p

Yes, Vaantaa is very nice and comfortable place to sleep. And the best thing is that it does not cost anything. Only downside is that breakfast is not included in this accommodation :-P

[J4MIE]

http://www.ava.fi/frontpage_AVA

About 10-15 mins from the airport.

Kiitos Tomi ;)

Can't wait for next week :bounce:

[garais22]

Google Earth Map Finland http://planetemarcus.free.fr/googleearthmap.htm
Can somebody explain me, how could I see from this site maps? What I need to do with this .knz file? :(

[MartijnS]

Download google earth and open it or upload the knz file somewhere + enter the url of the file in the google maps location bar.

[Tomi]

Kiitos Tomi ;)

Can't wait for next week :bounce:

No problem mate, only about 200m from the busstop to the airport, and if you want to take a tram to center of the city, the same.

[Hartusvuori]

If there's people coming to see Rally Finland that are also interested in 1000 Lakes in the 1970s, there's a great chance to hear few presentation on the matter by Kari Mäki, two of them in English.

He is true rally enthusiast who's been working on two books on 70's 1000 Lakes. First of the books is scheduled to be released in December 2010, in Finnish only though. He gives a stage-by-stage detailed tales, results and numerous unpublished photos. It've been nice to follow his efforts with the book which have taken him to old stages, he's been talking to people who live by the stages and remember those times in detail (like showing some rocks that took Alen or Mäkinen or Mikkola out some year).

Just near-by Paviljonki (less tham 100m) at Jyväskylän ammattikorkeakoulu (JAMK) Dynamo-rakennus, auditorio, Piippukatu 2 there will be presantations as planned:

Thursday 29.07.2010
klo 14:00–14:45
• 1000 Lakes 1973 and 1974 (in English)

klo 15:15–16:00
• 1000 Lakes 1973 ja 1974 (in Finnish)


Friday 30.07.2010
klo 14:00–14:30
• 1000 Lakes 1970 / (in Finnish)

klo 15:00–15:30
• 1000 Lakes 1971 (in Finnish)


Saturday 31.07.2010
klo 15:30–16:00
• 1000 Lakes 1972 (in English)

klo 16:30 – 17:00
• 1000 Lakes 1972 (in Finnish)
This is not part of the official program. Further details on the book (in Finnish again) can be read from this blog (http://1000lakesrally.blogs.fi/).


If you are an old rally fan and remember stories from those days, I bet, if he has time, rally professor Mäki is all ears.

[Sodjag]

I am planning trip to Finland this year, but I have problem to find some good maps where are interesting places of spectators marked. I will buy the official spectator´s guide as aoon as I arrive to Finland but I would like to prepare at home. Is here someone who has already bought the spectator´s guide of this year and would be so kind and scan some maps for me, please? Thx

[Hartusvuori]

^ Forgot to mention about that 70's show that it's of course free of charge.

[pino]

If there's people coming to see Rally Finland that are also interested in 1000 Lakes in the 1970s, there's a great chance to hear few presentation on the matter by Kari Mäki, two of them in English.

He is true rally enthusiast who's been working on two books on 70's 1000 Lakes. First of the books is scheduled to be released in December 2010, in Finnish only though. He gives a stage-by-stage detailed tales, results and numerous unpublished photos. It've been nice to follow his efforts with the book which have taken him to old stages, he's been talking to people who live by the stages and remember those times in detail (like showing some rocks that took Alen or Mäkinen or Mikkola out some year).

Just near-by Paviljonki (less tham 100m) at Jyväskylän ammattikorkeakoulu (JAMK) Dynamo-rakennus, auditorio, Piippukatu 2 there will be presantations as planned:

Thursday 29.07.2010
klo 14:00–14:45
• 1000 Lakes 1973 and 1974 (in English)

klo 15:15–16:00
• 1000 Lakes 1973 ja 1974 (in Finnish)


Friday 30.07.2010
klo 14:00–14:30
• 1000 Lakes 1970 / (in Finnish)

klo 15:00–15:30
• 1000 Lakes 1971 (in Finnish)


Saturday 31.07.2010
klo 15:30–16:00
• 1000 Lakes 1972 (in English)

klo 16:30 – 17:00
• 1000 Lakes 1972 (in Finnish)
This is not part of the official program. Further details on the book (in Finnish again) can be read from this blog (http://1000lakesrally.blogs.fi/).


If you are an old rally fan and remember stories from those days, I bet, if he has time, rally professor Mäki is all ears.


Great info thanks :up:

[RS]

Anton Alen cancelled his entry: http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/no_rally_finland_run_for_ace_alen/

That's a pity, I was looking forward to seeing how he would do in a Fiesta. Even though he wasn't very impressive in IRC he was at least quite good on fast gravel roads like those on his home event.

[N.O.T]

well no big loss...if his last name was different he would be a nobody long long time ago...but alens connections and manager pumping money on him kept him alive....its good its over now.

[JHvP]

...if his last name was different he would be a nobody long long time ago...

for example Anton Wilson...

[6789]

Here's Mikko testing for Finland, not long now!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_GoM553jDk&feature=recentlik&videos=dGX1M2b1tbk

[WRCfan]

Nice video! It's actually one of the first times I have heard Mikko speaking in his native tongue. Love how approachable all the guys are when it comes to the fans coming out for a look.

One of the reasons rallying is the best motorsport in the world!

[Hartusvuori]

Paviljonki webcam should be live on Saturday. We'll see, literally.

[Hartusvuori]

Jouni Ampuja in Impreza WRC is rumoured to be another DNS.

[fugu]

Paviljonki webcam should be live on Saturday. We'll see, literally.

http://bambuser.com/channel/YLE+Keski-Suomi/broadcast/909476

[Rallyper]

Anyone offering a sauna in Jyväskylä on saturday night before the party at HQ??

Someone?

[Hartusvuori]

Those of you who are now desperately thinking whether to pack long underwear, winter jackets and those woolly socks grandma made you last christmas, think again. Weather forecasts are forecasts, and they get more accurate closer to the event, but by now it is forecasted 31-33 celcius degrees and half cloudy around Jyväskylä region until Thursday. That should suit well.

http://www.fmi.fi/saa/paikalli.html?place=Jyvaskyla

[Juha_Koo]

but by now it is forecasted 31-33 celcius degrees and half cloudy around Jyväskylä region until Thursday. That should suit well.

Too hot in my opinion... One longer walking liason and you're exhausted. :D Lot's of water going to be needed.

[Hartusvuori]

One longer walking liason and you're exhausted. :D

Especially if you don't want to be late from TC, meaning the 1st car. But like always, the forecast will change and it'll rain cats and dogs and gravel.

[jacko]

Jouni Ampuja in Impreza WRC is rumoured to be another DNS.
That would be a shame, saw the man around 6/7 years back in a rally in Holland (driving a Corolla WRC), since then i'm sort of a fan but he's doing not that much if i'm correct.
Has to do with.. budget like so many others.
Hope he will find the money to get a start in his big home rally and perhaps more in the future. Go Jouni!

[driveace]

Take some Mosquito repel ant with you!
Friends of mine up in the Artic circle tell me they are VERY HUNGRY this year!!

[Koppomsbo]

Where to camp nere Urria Stage? :)

[janneppi]

Too hot in my opinion... One longer walking liason and you're exhausted. :D Lot's of water going to be needed.
Or if you drive a car with no Air conditioning. :(

[bluuford]

Take some Mosquito repel ant with you!
Friends of mine up in the Artic circle tell me they are VERY HUNGRY this year!!

Yeah, If you are not too sensitive to biting bugs and mosquitos, then you can take spray called "OFF" like mentioned before. But there is also very effective new product by same company called "Autan" ("I will help you"). You have to spray it to your skin and then use your hand and cover the whole body like you do with sunblock. It is very, very effective. 4 hours for biting bugs and 8 hours for mosquitos. It costs twice as much as OFF but is also two times more effective. Enjoy! By the way, mosquitos are not that big problem right now. Those biting bugs (parmat in finnish) are much worse :-(

[SubaruNorway]

Or if you drive a car with no Air conditioning. :(

Thankfully I've rented a car with AC ;) Not much mosquitos if it's sun though so that's a good thing! Those biting bugs are the kind that sticks to animals right? Won't roll around in the grass much then :s

[J4MIE]

Am pretty much sorted, arrive in Helsinki at 8.15pm on Wednesday evening, and plan to stop at first neste station to buy passes and of course some OFF ;) Then heading straight to shakedown to find somewhere to park up for the night. Is there a list of times the roads close to public?

Am liking the look of the weather forecast, hope the rain stays away :D

[J4MIE]

Am pretty much sorted, arrive in Helsinki at 8.15pm on Wednesday evening, and plan to stop at first neste station to buy passes and of course some OFF ;) Then heading straight to shakedown to find somewhere to park up for the night. Is there a list of times the roads close to public?

Am liking the look of the weather forecast, hope the rain stays away :D

[6789]

I'm leaving tonight, can;t wait to get there and see the boys fly through the forest.

Here is my dream podium..

1. Petter
2. Latvala
3. Ogier

Pretty slim chance, but its going to be a big fight out there!! Everyone enjoy the rally :D

[fugu]

Is there a list of times the roads close to public?




http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2010-07-01T10-51-53253.pdf

[J4MIE]

Kiitos :)

I would imagine they close shakedown road at midnight on wednesday night/thursday morning also?

[Woodeye]

Take some Mosquito repel ant with you!
Friends of mine up in the Artic circle tell me they are VERY HUNGRY this year!!

No worries. There were a lot of little flying *******s in middle Finland in June, but when I was there this weekend, basically none. And if the sun shines, like it's predicted in the forecast there's basically no mosquitoes at all.

[Daniel]

Am pretty much sorted, arrive in Helsinki at 8.15pm on Wednesday evening, and plan to stop at first neste station to buy passes and of course some OFF

Remember to buy some sugar as well :p

[janneppi]

Those biting bugs are the kind that sticks to animals right? Won't roll around in the grass much then :s

the biting bugs mentioned are horse-flies, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse-fly
Nasty animals. Few weeks ago I was waiting for a support truck after a puncture in my rear bicycle tire ;) and two of these noticed me, it took me 10 minutes of to get them, for some reason they conciously try to get behind you. And you can't run away from it.

The "sticks to animals" isn't as bad, but still annoying.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipoptena_cervi
They shouldn't yet be a problem

[Hartusvuori]

Weather should get worse by Friday and Saturday, is now forecasted. It'll stay warm, well above 20 degrees, but rain showers should come.

[ridder]

I'm curious about what people expect from Ogier?

Last year on his first outing in a WRC he started slow, then got a bit faster and barely lost to Rantanen to claim 6th - so still not really fast. 4 minutes behind Sordo in 4th to be more exact.

This year he's much faster on other rallies. Most probably also due to car since last years "client" C4 seemed much slower than factory one.

Anyway I read some people think he'll fight with Loeb for the win? To me that sounds a bit too optimistic, though if Fords lack of pace isn't compensated by drivers here it might not be that far from truth. Still my bet would be he'd end 4th at best if nobody crashed/punctures etc.

EDIT:
Also note how seemingly little Loeb improved in Finland from 2003 to 2004. In 2003 he was 5th 2:48 behind, in 2004 (where only PS was faster than him on gravel trough the year) he was 4th 2:20 behind.

[fugu]

Kiitos :)

I would imagine they close shakedown road at midnight on wednesday night/thursday morning also?

Official Programme says: Shakedown road is closed 29.7 (thursday) 8.00 - 12.00

[donlorean]

Official Programme says: Shakedown road is closed 29.7 (thursday) 8.00 - 12.00

That can't be true because shakedown starts at 08.00 so it must be closed earlier...

[N.O.T]

I'm curious about what people expect from Ogier?

Last year on his first outing in a WRC he started slow, then got a bit faster and barely lost to Rantanen to claim 6th - so still not really fast. 4 minutes behind Sordo in 4th to be more exact.

This year he's much faster on other rallies. Most probably also due to car since last years "client" C4 seemed much slower than factory one.

Anyway I read some people think he'll fight with Loeb for the win? To me that sounds a bit too optimistic, though if Fords lack of pace isn't compensated by drivers here it might not be that far from truth. Still my bet would be he'd end 4th at best if nobody crashed/punctures etc.

EDIT:
Also note how seemingly little Loeb improved in Finland from 2003 to 2004. In 2003 he was 5th 2:48 behind, in 2004 (where only PS was faster than him on gravel trough the year) he was 4th 2:20 behind.

its amazing how easily you an spot a disappointed peter solberg fan these days....

judging a driver improvement on the overal difference at the end of the rally is childish.

And as far as the customer cars of citroen Ogier has a different opinion...

Loeb will not win because he doesn't have to....he will fight for 1 day and if things are optimal he will win...but there is no way he will go to war with mikko/latvala as in previous years.

Ogier will be lucky if he finishes the event...i see a crash for him if he goes for the win if he settles for 5th and lower the he has a chance to drive for 3 days.

[fugu]

That can't be true because shakedown starts at 08.00 so it must be closed earlier...

I don't know is it wrong in the official programme, but that's how it says there.

Sounds quite strange that it's closed same time the shakedown starts...

[ridder]

Actually difference at the end of the rally had something to say in 2003-2004 Finland, when at the end of the rally the differences between places were rather small.
Notably in 2004 Loeb was 4th just 13 seconds ahead of 5th place Tuohino.

But off course, you just follow your standard procedure:
a) read post
b) find the easiest way to flame it without actually checking the facts (note that one of these flames has to include flaming an extra driver/manager/team/nation)
c) quickly post

=> 1/2 of a post is out of topic flaming. 1/2 (at best) something that adds to discussion. Seems like I'm following same scheme with this post... ohh well

[N.O.T]

the usual reply i get these days....to judge someones progress from overall difference is stupid for some simple facts

1. who was the winner
2. did the winner fight for the win for all 3 days of he was just cruising?
3. did the person who his progress we are looking at was in a fight the whole rally ? or he secured his place early and cruised through the rest of the event after 2-3 stages?
4. was car the same evolution as last year ? was the winners car evolution the same as last years winner...
5. where the stages the same? did the drivers had previous experience on these stages (both the winner and the driver we are looking at)...where the conditions the same (rain ects)

also starting potions, goals of the drivers that year, problems with the car ects....

have you thought these things through before posting that the overal difference tells for someones progress ?




and some other things....

[J4MIE]

I don't think that Ogier has a chance of winning this one, he still needs a bit more experience. Loeb will not take any risks to win as he doesn't need to, whereas Mikko not only needs to win but needs Loeb not to make it to the end. I suppose it depends if Ford can cut the speed gap to that from Bulgaria.... Mikko may have to take some risks. Maybe Latvala will be told to go for it...

[Tomi]

I don't think that Ogier has a chance of winning this one, he still needs a bit more experience.

maybe not win, but the podium he should reach without bigger problems.

[J4MIE]

maybe not win, but the podium he should reach without bigger problems.

Possibly yes, it's one reason I like the event so much, I watched the 2008 coverage and Marcus was talking about it and I totally agree, it's not just learning the stages and the jumps but how to take combinations of corners quickly that is the key to winning.

It's hard to really grasp just how difficult this event is, I'd say far harder than any other, until you actually go out there and see the stages for yourself. Incredible. I still can't believe what sGronholm drove like, Loeb too.

[Rallyper]

The way you talk about which driver will fight to the end etz. make me wonder if not it would be Petter S who´ll win this event.

He doesn´t have to think of or about anyone, anything. Just pure PR.
And for him that´s enough for motivate him winning the whole rally.... :s mokin:

[MJW]

I don't think that Ogier has a chance of winning this one, ..
I will probably be eating humble pie on Saturday night, but I reckon Ogier will win it. 1. Ogier, 2 Loeb, 3 Petter, I'm not bothering with official pickem or things like that but that's how I think it will end.

[Juha_Koo]

Relaxed Latvala comes and wins the whole sh*t... How about that! :s mokin:

[Rallyper]

Relaxed Latvala comes and wins the whole sh*t... How about that! :s mokin:

Yeah, yeah, that´s my guess! (but after the discussion above one could even think PS will win) :cool:

[Daniel]

Relaxed Latvala comes and wins the whole sh*t... How about that! :s mokin:
OR Latvala crashes and cries like a baby.

[A.F.F.]

My guess is that Ogier won't see the finishline this year. Or maybe he will but with help of superrally.

Loeb started the mindgame. "I don't have to win rally Finland".... right. He'll keep the pace up there and forces Mikko to take risks which eventually might pay off.

Mikko has the chance of winning but he'll have to do twice as hard work as he did last year.

Latvala.... no way he'll win. He wants to finish so he keeps the brakes on and finishes on podium.

Petter... he thinks he has the chance and steps on the same mine as Ogier and goes off.

That's the whole rally. Now you don't have to even follow it :)

[N.O.T]

so who wins.... ?

[A.F.F.]

Loeb wins this one.

[Rallyper]

So everyone - what stage will you open your rally with, except from Lajavuori which I presume everyone will be at.

For me I probably chose Urria because I don´t know any good part of Jukojärvi even though I´ve done recce there a couple of times. Of course we have the last corners of that stage but it´s so well known by now (even for Kimi) so I expect nothing to happen there. :p :

[jbmarcus21]

Loeb wins this one.

hope Mikko ... if not ... will be a disaster :'

[Tomi]

so who wins.... ?

loeb or ogier, hirvonen 3:rd, kankku 8

[A.F.F.]

Without any retirements, Kankku will be seventh. With help of others, he'll be sixth or fifht even.

[N.O.T]

I will cry tears of joy and excitement if Kankunen is on podium.

[jbmarcus21]

loeb or ogier, hirvonen 3:rd, kankku 8

Jari still fast in Finland... i see him on podium ....

[N.O.T]

i see Latvala or Loeb....Ogier in the ditch.

[Tomi]

I will cry tears of joy and excitement if Kankunen is on podium.

Would be good if he win, that would mean Ketomaa would be second :)

[N.O.T]

no problem by me...

[A.F.F.]

Kankkunen will hurry slowly and proceed like a train. He has absolutely no chance of winning, not even on podium but in top seven he will be.

Plus I always loved to watch him drive, he takes so smooth lines :)

[vkangas]

I'll say Mikko.

That's because fastest driver in Finland (JM) is still in the cage and Loeb has said he's not going to give give 100%. Ok, that might be psychological warfare but anyways he does not actually need the win.

Petter and Ogier may crash because both are really pushing for win.

Kimi vs. Juha I'd bet for Kimi. 56 km's of testing for Juha is just not enough. Finland is also the "closest to tarmac" gravel event.

[Allar]

I think Petter can win this one because Citroen is much much faster this year and he have bben allways fast in Finland

[N.O.T]

peter never has a clean run in finland....

[bluuford]

Yeah, but somehow those 300km without off/crash/etc are not easy to come for Petter :-) If you look at the past :-) So, realistically it will be between Loeb, Mikko and Jari

[Josti]

I think Kankkunen is capable of being the best Stobart driver. I think his limited amount of testing will play a role though. He has to rely on knowledge and his natural talent, but what's the pressure really, it's already a joy to see him drive a WRC rally again, no matter where he ends up.

Oh yeah, and I think this is the only rally where Hirvonen and Latvala can excel this year. I doubt Ogier will take many risks on his first outing for the works team.

[Mirek]

Juho Hänninen will drive Fabia Evo 2 from Skoda Italia (I guess).

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs183.snc4/37468_417350319189_818659189_4469963_4533137_n.jpg

[Maui J.]

I'm picking Petter for the win.
Faster car than the Fords. Faster than Loeb due to him only driving for points.
Faster than Ogier due to experience of Finland.

Hirvonen a close 2nd.
Loeb 3rd.

I predict Sordo will put in some fastest stage times as well.

KKK in 5th!

[Motorsportfun]

The last stage of the rally will be broadcasted LIVE on the Italian national tv (free to air) RAI.

RAI SPORT 1, 17.00 CET

Good to hear, pino... isn't it? :D

[pino]

The last stage of the rally will be broadcasted LIVE on the Italian national tv (free to air) RAI.

RAI SPORT 1, 17.00 CET

Good to hear, pino... isn't it? :D

Good news indeed but I will be in Finland watching live so it doesn't matter for me :D As for the winners I would love this podium :

1 Petter
2 Matti
3 KKK

:s mokin:

[René]

This rally will be very interesting for several reasons.
Ford, Hirvonen has obligation to win therefore he will have to take a maximum of risks. Latvala must remain very close to Hirvonen in case hirvonen goes off.
Citroen, Loeb must assure a smooth rhythm to remain in contact of hirvonen without taking too much risks. Ogier should not forget his goal now, that he must inevitably mark a maximum of points for the manufacturer championship before thinking about himself. Sordo liberated from any pressure is going to be able to confirm his big progress on this surface. Petter Solberg will passes or breaks. Raikkonen with more experience risk creating a big surprise with a very good result. Kankkunen will be behind the habitual actors of the WRC his talent will not erase the weight of the years. Excepted from a lot off road front of him. For Juha as for everybody, it is not unfortunately possible to be and to have been.
finally this rally should be very opened for final result.
I hope for the sport this race for Ford would be not se same end as Bulgaria this way should be à great disaster.
That the best wins !!!

[Rallyper]

My wish, as it´s all wishes above - JML wins and Mikko close second. Petter third.

1) JML
2) MH
3) PS

Loeb DNF.
Kimi 5th.
Juha 7th.
The other Citroens somewhere 4-8.
Close battle in S2000 and PG wins
Flodin takes victory in GrN.

That´s my wishes.
Now only hours before I enter the ferry for Helsinki.

It shall be a very exciting rally for many reasons.... :)

[Wim_Impreza]

My guess is that Ogier won't see the finishline this year. Or maybe he will but with help of superrally.

Loeb started the mindgame. "I don't have to win rally Finland".... right. He'll keep the pace up there and forces Mikko to take risks which eventually might pay off.

Mikko has the chance of winning but he'll have to do twice as hard work as he did last year.

Latvala.... no way he'll win. He wants to finish so he keeps the brakes on and finishes on podium.

Petter... he thinks he has the chance and steps on the same mine as Ogier and goes off.

That's the whole rally. Now you don't have to even follow it :)

Thank you. What is your predictation about Kankkunen and who will be the fastest S2000 driver?

[Koppomsbo]

watching this makes me think it doesnt matter if it rains... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adeg-Ec0V9Y

[Zeakiwi]

Loeb, Seb O, PS, DS. I think the car development of the Citroen will result in another overdriving display from the Ford drivers I will assume the Ford co-drivers have the car wreck recovery team's number programmed into their mobiles.

[Halvis]

It will indeed be very interesting, I guess we won't know whether Seb will go for the win before day one is gone. Petter will certainly go for it, I predict either a win or an off for him.

[SubaruNorway]

Does anybody who has been to Alkio opisto know how the internet works here? Password on the wireless which they had no clue what was, but not on cable they tought, but I can't connect at all with that...

[DonJippo]

Does anybody who has been to Alkio opisto know how the internet works here? Password on the wireless which they had no clue what was, but not on cable they tought, but I can't connect at all with that...

As I told you there is always the prepaid USB-modem option...

[Tom206wrc]

My wish, as it´s all wishes above - JML wins and Mikko close second. Petter third.

1) JML
2) MH
3) PS

Loeb DNF.
Kimi 5th.
Juha 7th.
The other Citroens somewhere 4-8.
Close battle in S2000 and PG wins
Flodin takes victory in GrN.

That´s my wishes.
Now only hours before I enter the ferry for Helsinki.

It shall be a very exciting rally for many reasons.... :)




But that's ANTI-SPORT to wish a driver a...DNF !!!!! :mad:

[Daniel]

But that's ANTI-SPORT to wish a driver a...DNF !!!!! :mad:
Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaambulance :)

[J4MIE]

Daniel, get on the phone to your travel agent to book a flight out, you know you want to ;)

[SubaruNorway]

As I told you there is always the prepaid USB-modem option...

What store do you get that at again? I'm on the phone so a bit hard to look back at it...

[fugu]

What store do you get that at again? I'm on the phone so a bit hard to look back at it...

They are called "R-kioski" nearest r-kioski is in Korpilahti, addres is: KORPILAHDENTIE 5

Open: 9-21

Saunalahti mobile broadband 39,00 €

"Saunalahti Prepaid Mobile Broadband-Package includes Saunalahti Prepaid starter kit, online stick (operator-locked), and the value voucher (Valid 1 month for the free data transfer). Data transfer to pay a complimentary after a period of 1.5 € / MB and up to 1.9 € / day. Net stick maximum speed is 3.6 Mbit / s."

Sorry, I used the google translator :D

[Tomi]

They are called "R-kioski" nearest r-kioski is in Korpilahti, addres is: KORPILAHDENTIE 5

Open: 9-21

Saunalahti mobile broadband 39,00 €

"Saunalahti Prepaid Mobile Broadband-Package includes Saunalahti Prepaid starter kit, online stick (operator-locked), and the value voucher (Valid 1 month for the free data transfer). Data transfer to pay a complimentary after a period of 1.5 € / MB and up to 1.9 € / day. Net stick maximum speed is 3.6 Mbit / s."

Sorry, I used the google translator :D

you better give the coordinates, address and map can be too demanding.

[rallye-vid]

The last stage of the rally will be broadcasted LIVE on the Italian national tv (free to air) RAI.

RAI SPORT 2, 17.00 CET



thx for the info mate!

[Juha_Koo]

Damn, the fever is really starting to rise... :s mokin:

[rallye-vid]

kirraa kirraa ;)

[A.F.F.]

Does anybody who has been to Alkio opisto know how the internet works here? Password on the wireless which they had no clue what was, but not on cable they tought, but I can't connect at all with that...

What DonJippo already told. I've been at Alkio many years now but I don't recall them having WLAN so prepaid modem is definately the best option.

I assume you're there also SubaruNorway ?

[pino]

Weather forecast for the next 5 days :D

http://www.fmi.fi/weather/local.html

[SubaruNorway]

What DonJippo already told. I've been at Alkio many years now but I don't recall them having WLAN so prepaid modem is definately the best option.

I assume you're there also SubaruNorway ?

I was told it was but not online during the summer obviously. I'm here all alone in dormitory a, I drive the new silver auris. I saw PG's recce car outside here, must be the only ones here atm :p Got lots of recce done today, some good spots in Kalonkulma. Sideways jump in Urria and the other known places in that stage was impossible to get good footage from with tape being so far back. Think I will do end of Jukojarvi instead. Checking stages to the north tomorrow :)

[A.F.F.]

Well, we have to greet at breakfast friday and saturday morning :)

Just look for the guy who's face-expression looks like he wants to kill everyone. That would be me :)

[janvanvurpa]

So no news about changing the date for RalliFinland so the X-games Stars and Heroes and Gods can put in an guest-starring appearance???

There's still time!!

[J.Lindstroem]

Talking about american stars. Is Ken Block driving rally Finland?

[Motorsportfun]

thx for the info mate!

It's RAI SPORT 1

[N.O.T]

Talking about american stars. Is Ken Block driving rally Finland?

he is doing X-games in the USA

[janvanvurpa]

Talking about american stars. Is Ken Block driving rally Finland?

That's why so many ireal fans think expect the date to be changed, haven't you read all the thread?
How can it be a real Världs Mästerskap annars, eller .....?

And as to American ''stjärnor'' I guess Blockie is a NOVA,
(som på spanska betyder no va---går inte)

[Addicted]

Is there other drivers who won´t start than

- Anton Alen
- Jouni Ampuja

[A.F.F.]

Well, I have made a routeplan. It's going to be a busy weekend if we try to manage go throught in time....

Looking forward to see forumers at the stages :)

[6789]

Heatwave here in Helsinki.. Well it feels like that!!

Our plan is;
SS1
SS3
SS5
SS8
SS14
SS16
SS18

[J4MIE]

Well, I have made a routeplan. It's going to be a busy weekend if we try to manage go throught in time....

Looking forward to see forumers at the stages :)

See you soon Jani, just about to board to Helsinki in 20 minutes, don't think I will go on internet over there so signing out, have fun folks whatever you are doing ;)

[MikeD]

Can someone help me with the following question.

Which team is running/preparing the Subaru Impreza WRC07 for Jouni Ampuja for rally Finland?

Thanks in advance.

[bluuford]

Can someone help me with the following question.

Which team is running/preparing the Subaru Impreza WRC07 for Jouni Ampuja for rally Finland?

Thanks in advance.

I think he is not starting..
In entry its is written WorldDive, I guess it is WorldDrive?

[Mirek]

My mistake... this was Kosciuszko. Hänninen is with BRR.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs183.snc4/37468_417350319189_818659189_4469963_4533137_n.jpg

[ProRally]

Just arrived in Helsinki, fly to JVY tomorrow. It is HOT here pffffff.....

[A.F.F.]

See you soon Jani, just about to board to Helsinki in 20 minutes, don't think I will go on internet over there so signing out, have fun folks whatever you are doing ;)

Yes, hopefully your phone will receive my text messages this year.

[pino]

Yes, hopefully your phone will receive my text messages this year.

Otherwise we will use mine...see you tomorrow ;)

[bluuford]

Just arrived in Helsinki, fly to JVY tomorrow. It is HOT here pffffff.....

Take a lot of water for drinking tomorrow and try to stay on the shade. Tomorrow the temperature might climb up to 35 degrees! And the air will be very humid. There is slight chance of thunderstorm from 21:00 tomorrow evening. Night should be dry but from the Friday morning 11:00 there is big chance of Thunderstorms. So, keep away from big trees, mobile antennas and dont swim during the thunder.

[Mirek]

So, keep away from big trees...

That means You shouldn't go out on stages :s mokin:

[Juha_Koo]

]My mistake... this was Kosciuszko. Hänninen is with BRR.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs183.snc4/37468_417350319189_818659189_4469963_4533137_n.jpg

A bit weird in my opinion that Hänninen will have the EVO1 Fabia and Kosciuszko will have the EVO2... Although Juho said that they aren't so different after all.

[janneppi]

Well, I have made a routeplan. It's going to be a busy weekend if we try to manage go throught in time....

Looking forward to see forumers at the stages :)
I'm going to be there abouts on saturday with my brother, I'll have to get in touch with you lot for which stages you'll be waching then.

[bluuford]

]That means You shouldn't go out on stages :s mokin:

Yeah:-) I meant single trees. Not so bad when you are in the forest:-)

[Mirek]

A bit weird in my opinion that Hänninen will have the EVO1 Fabia and Kosciuszko will have the EVO2... Although Juho said that they aren't so different after all.

It's mostly about the look. Most of mechanical changes was done already before the change of look ;)

[bluuford]

Is there other drivers who won´t start than

- Anton Alen
- Jouni Ampuja

Yes, nr 42 Miguel Angel Baldoni Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX seems to be also missing

[Juha_Koo]

LOL, Petter is getting kinda excited... :)

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2010/07/1163228

[A.F.F.]

I'm going to be there abouts on saturday with my brother, I'll have to get in touch with you lot for which stages you'll be waching then.

Cool. You still have my number ? Or Pino's? Just call us.

[SubaruNorway]

As I told you there is always the prepaid USB-modem option...

And it works very good! :) Thanks for the help! Off to shakedown! ;)

[bluuford]

News from shakedown:
Too many people on the wrong places and shakedown was stopped for 30 minutes. It was resumed by 10 am.
Shakedown period has been extended until 12:30 due to the same reason.

S.Loeb is the fastest so far.
Hirvonen had Turbo problems and has run the test stage only once (by 10 am).

Kankkunen also said that road is very slippery due to the loose gravel. He said that he dont remember when the road was so slippery. It is due to the long drought period and hot weather in Finland in recent months. He dont expect Loeb to take risks and fight for the win in this round.

[Ondra WRC]

Link in shakedown times?

[A.F.F.]

I'm going to be there abouts on saturday with my brother, I'll have to get in touch with you lot for which stages you'll be waching then.

Janne, I just noticed that due the lost of my old phone, I don't have your number anymore. So call either me or Pino if you have our numbers so we can meet saturday at the stages :)

I'm about to leave now to the rally. Have fun you guys and keep the forum up :up:

[bluuford]

Link in shakedown times?

No times. Heard from the local rally radio.
useful links:
web-cam
http://bambuser.com/channel/YLE+Keski-Suomi/broadcast/909476

News and updates and radio:
http://yle.fi/alueet/keski-suomi/suomen_mm_ralli/

[Ondra WRC]

Thanks bluuford. :)

[Tomi]

I think the importance of the shakedown is a "rally cultural" thing, here people never had paid any attention at it, only recent years they have started to publish the times too.

[jbmarcus21]

Shakedown times Finland
Hirvonen 2.02,2
Loeb 2.02,3
Latvala 2.02,3
Ogier 2.02,4
Sordo 2.02,6
Petter 2.03,0
Henning 2.04,6
Raikkonen 2.05,8
Wilson 2.07,5

[N.O.T]

juha ?

[Tomi]

juha ?
12. Juha Kankkunen Ford 2.08,4

[N.O.T]

just warming up :)

anyway i just realised that finland is 2 days long...not 3 !!!

[Roy]

1. Mikko Hirvonen Ford 2.02,2
2. Jari-Matti Latvala Ford 2.02,3
2. Sebastien Loeb Citroen 2.02,3
4. Sebastien Ogier Citroen 2.02,4
5. Dani Sordo Citroen 2.02,6
6. Petter Solberg Citroen 2.03,0
...
10. Kimi Räikkönen Citroen 2.05,8
12. Juha Kankkunen Ford 2.08,4

Source: http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2010/07/1163526

[bluuford]

Citron Junior team got reprimand due to testing on wrong site:
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2010-07-29T11-21-19253.pdf

[JFL]

Petter and Chris did 3 runs at todays Shakedown here in Finland, and at the time they finished they were the fastest car through so far. Mikko Hirvonen did 4 runs and ended with the fastest time through.

- We had two really good days of testing before the rally, and the three runs today just confirmed that, says Petter Solberg. – Everything worked perfectly, so we just decided to stop after 3 runs.

Shakedown stage was 4,6kms, and Petters average speed was 125 km/ph. During one run he did 39 gear changes, at one point in 6th gear for 25 seconds.

[jbmarcus21]

Citron Junior team got reprimand due to testing on wrong site:
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2010-07-29T11-21-19253.pdf

which penalties or sanctions ?

[bluuford]

which penalties or sanctions ?

Just reprimand.. That means.. oi.. oi.. oi.. dont you do that again:-)

[jbmarcus21]

;)

[Allar]

full shakedown results anywhere?

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/755/755_ostberg__andersson_%28subaru_impreza_wrc%29_b2 5f37f05b.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/755/755_kankkunen__repo_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_f4837967d 2.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/755/755_wilson__martin_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_cff12f20ef .jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/755/755_hirvonen__lehtinen_%28ford_focus_wrc%5D_3c8405 5cb6.jpg

More photos from flying shakedown HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=755&fseason=2010) ;)

[bluuford]

Little bit more information from shakedown (from spectators).

Tänak- 2.15,3
Paddon 2.17,6

Wilson and Henning both did 6 runs. Other prority drivers did 4 as recommended

[JFL]

Little bit more information from shakedown (from spectators).

Tänak- 2.15,3
Paddon 2.17,6

Wilson and Henning both did 6 runs. Other prority drivers did 4 as recommended
And Petter did 3 runs.. ..

[Allar]

Pwrc shakedown:
1th Salo: 2.15.11
2th Tänak: 2.15.3
3th Foldin 2.16.0
4th Paddon 2.17.6
5th Ketomäki 2.21.6

[bluuford]

All shakedown times:
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2010-07-29T13-02-41298.pdf

[bretddog]

If I'm not mistaken, quickest runs:
1st run Petter
2nd run Mikko
3rd run Mikko

[CrazyLeo]

My name is Leo and I race rally cars in Canada (known to some as CrazyLeo). This year my girlfriend and I decided to come to Finland to watch the rally. We are actually on our way to the first stage right now.

It so happened that we have booked an appartment with an extra room with 2 extra beds at the place we're staying, because our friends, who were supposed to bring the car couldn't make it (my friend's wife gave birth to their son yesterday!) So, we are stuck without a car... and all rental places are sold out.

If someone is going to see a lot of the stages (get up early, stay up late :cool :) on Friday and Saturday and has 2 seats in the car, I though you could take us with you...

And if you or any of your friends need a place to crash - you're welcome to take the room and 2 beds that are vacant because of my friends didn't make it.

Please let me know, my cell is
+358 405 676 377
OR
+7 926 63 521 63

Because time is short, please call instead of a PM.

Cheers,
Leo

[Daniel]

Best of luck Leo :) Would be a pity if you didn't get to see the rally, it really is fantastic :)

[Hipo1990]

photos from shake
http://www.autosportfoto.sk/galeria/wrc/neste-oil-rally-finland-1
http://2010find0.rallybel.be/#547.22
http://www.daylife.com/search/photos/1/grid?q=rally+finland+2010

[Tomi]

Best of luck Leo :) Would be a pity if you didn't get to see the rally, it really is fantastic :)

offcourse he gets, some one read this and pick him and gf up, the only problem is that most guys stay far from the town.

[Tom206wrc]

About 30 minutes before start SSS :cool:

[Allar]

is there live broadcast form first stage too?

[Juha_Koo]

is there live broadcast form first stage too?

Finnish pay channel MTV3 MAX broadcasts it live.

[jbmarcus21]

Finnish pay channel MTV3 MAX broadcasts it live.

yes but in France .. doesn't work :(

[Tom206wrc]

SSS on the way :bounce:

[rallye-vid]

Finnish pay channel MTV3 MAX broadcasts it live.

record it please and upload somewhere :cool:

[dimviii]

wish to have a good rally with fight to last ss :D

ps curious to see Loebs pace with 1 day only tests.

[dimviii]

record it please and upload somewhere :cool:

+1

[N.O.T]

the battle for the s2000 win has started....katomaa fastest...the top 18 within 10 seconds of eachother... :)

[dimviii]

also some seconds later there is another very close group with Mitsu/scoobies.Salo fastest till now.

kkk slower than Ketooma!!

[ZequeArgentina]

Nice to see J.Kankunen and J. Repo back in a world rally time sheet!!

God luck to the oldie!

[N.O.T]

juha slower than Al Quassimy ???

[Josti]

Kankku slower than Al-Qassimi hurts, but too early for conclusions I think.

[Xsara Fan]

Loeb at pre-start press-conference said interesting words about Ogier:
"The question was what I think about the story: for sure in the last rally we saw the fight between Seb and me and to have both in the team and all this, it would be easier for him to be in Ford. Now he is in my team, he is my team-mate and we try to work well together".

HE is in MY team!!!!

Ok, Seb 2.0, now you may forget about wins...

[N.O.T]

Raikonnen samw time as al quassimy...Solberg attacks.

[Hartusvuori]

Back from the first day. We went early to shakedown to get to the place we had recced, and it was totally worth it. It was at the same straight of jumps that someone already posted pictures from. Nice shady place, also, you know, this has been THE hottest day ever in Finland, thought that was in eastern Finland, but we got well along in Jyväskylä region as well.

Ford drivers attack, that's for sure. and apparently it was fast as well, haven't checked much shakedown times yet though. On third runs both Hirvonen and Latvala landed on the nose, but on the fourth run both landed okey. I asked Mikko about, and he said it was how he drove the place, not with setups or so. Other Fords - no competion.

Citroen's did well of course. Petter Solberg was most spectacular, but perhaps not the quickest. It'll be interesting to see what kind of times Sebs, Sordo and Petter will set. In the service park Sordo was absent, at least I didn't any of him. Ogier was like he was meant to be on the factory seat. Sebs and Petter were really relaxed.

Then the S2000s. They come in numbers, but you can tell who are the real drivers. Nasser Al-Attiyah is perhaps a flight pilot, he's jumps were just crazy. For a first timer that could prove to be a non-finish. Hopefully not. Then Hänninen and Ketomaa. Hopefully it'll be a close fight, but I think Ketomaa wins it by far. Rantanen, PGA and Sandell were okeyish as well.

Now some rest, it's not that many hours before start to Urria stage.

[N.O.T]

Solberg wins the mini stage...real rally tommorow.

[saxter]

Solberg wins the mini stage...real rally tommorow.

Thats for sure a good new!!! Respect to Peter!

[Tomi]

Hartusvuori, can you arrange a ride to some stages for the canadian guy and his GF?

[Hartusvuori]

Hartusvuori, can you arrange a ride to some stages for the canadian guy and his GF?

I got his message - and if you read this CrazyLeo, this is a reply - and unfortunately I can't. I'm a passenger myself, and like you can imagine on a tight schedule. There are some bus rides to Fridays and Saturdays stages from Service Park, so the situation isn't hopeless, I hope. More info on the spectators guide.

[Tomi]

I think this would be a good consept to start the rally on thursday, but instead of only 1 short, they could do 2-3 proper stages.

[alexlake]

Solberg wins the mini stage...real rally tommorow.

do tonights times count for road starting order tomorrow?

[Miika]

Juha vs. Kimi battle in the live stage tonight plus some footage of the shakedown stage at the beginning of the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duVy7lK44Xo

[User]

At above, I was also thinking. Being first on the road is never good right?

[DonJippo]

do tonights times count for road starting order tomorrow?

No.

[alexlake]

No.
thanks

[Daniel]

Juha vs. Kimi battle in the live stage tonight plus some footage of the shakedown stage at the beginning of the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duVy7lK44Xo

It's fantastic and almost comfoting to see Juha back on a stage :)

[bluuford]

Juha vs. Kimi battle in the live stage tonight plus some footage of the shakedown stage at the beginning of the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duVy7lK44Xo

LOL Finnish reporters know how to chat with Kimi. You have to open his door on your own :-)

[Tomi]

LOL Finnish reporters know how to chat with Kimi. You have to open his door on your own :-)

Lol, yes Anette pulled the door open and started asking before he got the helmet off, quite funny.
Kankku was like a small child who found a long lost toy.

[N.O.T]

ehehehhe nice.... :)

[jbmarcus21]

Juha vs. Kimi battle in the live stage tonight plus some footage of the shakedown stage at the beginning of the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duVy7lK44Xo

great !!! Thanks !!!

I think it is Timo Rautiainen who comments with the principal commentators..

[Tomi]

great !!! Thanks !!!

I think it is Timo Rautiainen who comments with the principal commentators..

yes its Timo, he is quite good commentator.

[jbmarcus21]

:) :) :)

Yes good commentators... but still an excellent co-driver... and maybe an great co-driver for the mini wrc :)

[CrazyLeo]

Thanks to everybody, but we still didn't find a ride.

The problem with the rally bus is that if you take the rally bus, you can only make it to one of the stages.. it's just not enough!

So, Friday we'll take the but at 12:30 to SS8 and SS10. But still need a ride to SS2 and SS4 to be back in HQ around 12:00-13:00. Looks like will have to leave Jyvaskyla by 5:30 am. Will pay reasonable money. If no one responds - will have to take a taxi. We won't give up!

Thanks, Leo

+358 405 676 377
OR
+7 926 63 521 63

[Tom206wrc]

Pics of SSS ??? :confused:

[Woodeye]

Kankku was like a small child who found a long lost toy.

Saw that too. It's been great to see him back there again. Tommi is the next one to follow the trend I guess.. ;)

[jbmarcus21]

Pics of SSS ??? :confused:

http://www.photowrc.com/

[Tomi]

Saw that too. It's been great to see him back there again. Tommi is the next one to follow the trend I guess.. ;)

Did you read Alens comments about how Kankku will do? Very funny, a little same teasing like at Lancia in the past.

[RICARDO75]

another video from sss in Laajavuori

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlE9_MCAII0&feature=watch_response

[N.O.T]

damn i a jealous now....great coverage.

[CrazyLeo]

Ended up taking a taxi :colour:

Off to the stages :cool:

[SubaruNorway]

Just put together a short video from shakedown and SS1 ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py-w7pzNAiI

[N.O.T]

1 hour remaining....

[Tomi]

quite a tough stage right away, i bet the drivers wake up if they feel sleepy.

[N.O.T]

not long now....lets hope the new site works well...

[N.O.T]

The stage is Live !!!!

[Brother John]

No.

Good morrow Don, at last back in my house and back online! Greetings to all forum friends and much pleasure with the rally. ;)

[N.O.T]

good start by the fords....

[jonkka]

Yeah but I expect Citroens to strike back... It's always been very close battle so why would it now be any different, especially given Citroen's recent form...

[jonkka]

Kankkunen is on the stage!

[N.O.T]

Not a bad start by Juha :) :) :)

[N.O.T]

hmmm no splits for the rest of the guys after therman ??? :( :(

nice start so far.

[jonkka]

Juha was eager to start - he jumped it and got 10sec penalty

[N.O.T]

yay they do have splits... :)

[jonkka]

I should change my nick to Y.E.S

[N.O.T]

nice time by ketomaa

[N.O.T]

I should change my nick to Y.E.S

i agree...

[DonJippo]

I should change my nick to Y.E.S

I tried it once, just didn't feel right. Too positive nick among all negative whiners ... :s mokin:

[Brother John]

I tried it once, just didn't feel right. Too positive nick among all negative whiners ... :s mokin:

Aren't you not on the rally?

[jonkka]

I tried it once, just didn't feel right. Too positive nick among all negative whiners ... :s mokin:

Well, I was thinking this mainly because at one point this morning the only posters were me and N.O.T.

[jonkka]

Oops... JML suddenly lost time...

[Tom206wrc]

nice time by ketomaa



Also by Nikara who uses the 207 for the first time ;)

[Miika]

Tuohino´s steering wheel is loose.

[J.Lindstroem]

Good morning everybody! What happened to Hänninen on stage 3?

[emk]

Finished 1,5 behind, for some reason not shown in the results

[hari]

Good morning everybody! What happened to Hänninen on stage 3?
Just missing splits, finished 1.5 seconds behind Ketomaa

[J.Lindstroem]

Its up now... :) Andersson is 5th... but i think he has a lot left to give in terms of speed. Btw is it just me or is this just a two day rally?

[Langdale Forest]

Juha has returned to ridicule the future useless nobody stars and to show what a speciment he is....

[Woodeye]

Juha has returned to ridicule the future useless nobody stars and to show what a speciment he is....

*sigh*

[jonkka]

Ogi faster than Luub...

[jonkka]

Much faster...

[jonkka]

Where is Mikko?

[Miika]

Voi vattu.

[jonkka]

Mikko has gone off

[emk]

Hirvonen rolled

[jonkka]

So now JML must attack...

[René]

rolled

[jonkka]

Petter will take lead ?

[Langdale Forest]

Hirvonen is really a future useless nobody now, because other people have said so...

[emk]

Possibe power steering problem for Mikko before the roll.

[awake27]

Rally is over. Mikko rolled and Loeb lost the rear spoiler, so Petter should now win for once.

[AndyRAC]

Possibe power steering problem for Mikko before the roll.

Ford, again, power steering...!!! :rolleyes:

[A.F.F.]

Not only to sit here at Jukojärvi and listen those ****ing vuvuzelas, to find out Mikko has gone off..... Well, at least it's less warm today...

[Daniel]

Rally is over. Mikko rolled and Loeb lost the rear spoiler, so Petter should now win for once.
You wish :rotflmao: