germany rally news

[morganmilan]

I´ve thought it´s time to begin a thread with german rally news,because I haven´t found an old one in this forum. Next 26th march begins Wikinger rally 2010, first round for german championship. Points are eligible too for danish championship. Here´s rally website
http://www.wikinger-rallye.de/
and link to provisional entry list
http://www.wikinger-rallye.de/wikinger-rallye-2010/driver-info/nennungsliste/

[pucky54]

Points are eligible too for danish championship.

No!!!

[HaCo]

Great, 2 Skoda S2000 this year!

[Francis44]

Great, 2 Skoda S2000 this year!

Lucky fans!!!!

[urabus-denoS2000]

Why "NO!!!!" ?

[morganmilan]

Well, really I believe that was my fault :( . It seems danish championship begins in May indeed. Otherwise, many good danish crews are expected at Wikinger rally. Thnx Pucky :)

[pucky54]

Otherwise, many good danish crews are expected at Wikinger rally.

For example? :)

[morganmilan]

M. Kahle will run Lausitz Cup with his Octavia WRC

For example? :)
We have already two crews as entries :D

[Jarek Z]

M. Kahle will run Lausitz Cup with his Octavia WRC

So the winner is known already before the cup has started ;)

[morganmilan]

So the winner is known already before the cup has started ;)
Is any other already known contender to the cup in Poland or Tchech Republik? :)

[Mirek]

I expect Radek Mifka to start in Lausitz cup.

[morganmilan]

Three danish crews already with M. Pedersen in his Mitsu at Wikinger rally, but few s2000 entries :( Thnx for your info Mirek

[superbolide]

Hello to all,

I look for information on two 207 S2000 of the Team Romo Motorsport to update website: http://www.207s2000.fr/
I need numbers of chassis and registrations of these two cars.

Thank you for your answers.

Friendly

[jolle1982]

Video Lausitz Rallye Best of WRC 06-09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK6KmyXEvjU

[WRC1]

Hello to all,

I look for information on two 207 S2000 of the Team Romo Motorsport to update website: http://www.207s2000.fr/
I need numbers of chassis and registrations of these two cars.

Thank you for your answers.

Friendly

car01

plate: GO - RO 207 chassis: 016

car02

plate: GO - RO 107 chassis: ????

reg

wrc1

[morganmilan]

Seeded entry list for Wikinger rally, first round for DRM 2010
http://www.wikinger-rallye.de/wikinger-rallye-2010/driver-info/nennungsliste/

[jolle1982]

Fotos Rally Melsungen

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/medium/a_38_resize.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/medium/a_24.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/medium/a_15_resize.jpg

Fotos Rally Melsungen (http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=38:rallye-melsungen)

[morganmilan]

Really good pictures Jolle!

[jolle1982]

Thanks!!

[morganmilan]

These are the start numbers list for drivers in DRM 2010:
1 Sandro Wallenwein/Marcus Poschner - Subaru Impreza N 15, 1
2 Matthias Kahle/Peter Göbel - Skoda Fabia S2000, 1
3 Hermann Gaßner/Siegfried Schrankl - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X, 1
4 Peter Corazza/Ronald Bauer - Mitsubishi Lancer, 1
5 Olaf Dobberkau/Alexandra König - Porsche 911 GT3, 1
6 Anton Werner/Ralph Edelmann - Porsche 911 GT3, 1
7 Maik Stölzel/Thomas Windisch - Porsche 911 GT3, 1
8 Mark Wallenwein/Stefan Kopczyk - Skoda Fabia S 2000, 1
9 Rainer Noller/Uwe Walz - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO 8, 1
10 Robert Pritzl/Christina Kohl - Subaru Impreza, 1
11 Max Christensen/Dorthe Raun - Subaru Impreza, 1
12 Daniel Rexhausen/Stefan Clemens - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO 9, 1
13 Jörg Axel de Fries/Georg Ringhof - Mitsubishi EVO 9, 1
14 Matthias Auer/Heidi Koppe - Mitsubishi EVO 9, 1
15 Carsten Mohe/Katrin Becker - Renault Clio R3, 2
16 Tim Stebani/Frank Christian - Opel Corsa OPC, 2
17 Felix Herbold/Kevin Zemanik - Honda Civic R3, 2
18 Lars Mysliwietz/Oliver Schumacher - Citroen C2 R2 MAX, 3
19 Michael Abendroth/Frank Oschmann - Honda Civic Type R, 3
20 Andreas Lohfing/Marco Witzel - Citroen C2 R2, 3
21 Benjamin Scheller/Sebastian Suhr - Citroen C2 R2, 3
22 Benjamin Hübner/Maik Trommler - Honda Civic Type R, 3
23 Patrick Pusch/Fabian Hoese - Honda Civic Type R, 3
according to rallye-magazin.de

[jolle1982]

Video Rallye Melsungen 2010

pHshzM7UH9s

[morganmilan]

This evening first two stages of Wikinger rally. Tomorrow another 10 ss else. On line results should be found here http://www.rallyresult.dk/results.aspx?eventid=183

[morganmilan]

It looks like ss2 has been suspended after an accident of Anton Werner with his Porsche. At first stage M.Wallenwein and M.Kahle got an 1-2 with their Fabia s200:) , and S.Wallenwein third with Subaru

[morganmilan]

Well, really it seems that there have been two accidents: Werner and de Fries, and first leg has been stopped :(

[wwbroe]

I guess it were serious accidents then, i mean to stop the rally? Do you have more info about it? :(

[CWJ]

no, not serious, but only 2 stages today and there was a time delay of at least 35 minutes already in heavy rain and stage not clear again so they decided to stop stage 2.

[morganmilan]

After SS5, Kahle leads with S.Wallenwein behind (only 2.4 sec), and Noller third. M.Wallenwein with the other Fabia is now fifth (almost one and a half minute behind leader), and Herbold leading 2WD with his Honda

[HaCo]

So where is Kahle on SS6? Have to say that some of these N4's in the German championship go VERY well!

[Wim_Impreza]

Problems for Kahle in SS6?

HaCo: the heavy rain of yesterday evening is of course good for the Group N cars. ;)

[morganmilan]

What a fight!! S.Wallenwein and Kahle absolutely in same time after eight ss! M.wallenwein goes up to third position. Sandro´s pace is very impressive with a little less rain than yesterday against s2000! :) (and Kahle goes on as a very good driver after his last two years halfwithdrawn)

[morganmilan]

It´s very impressive too seeing Herbold´s Civic and Stebani´s Opel in front of Dobberkau´s Porsche. Last year was not that way...

[morganmilan]

Ninth stage: Kahle in lead with 4.5 sec advantage...Three ss to go

[HaCo]

What a great rally, top 4 in less than a minute! I'm quite jalous of the germans, who have a nice and more or less balanced starting field. And look in front, only 1.8 between one and two! :D

Do you really think N4 can compete better with S2000 when it has rained? I think it's more a question of tallent. How good are the N4's we see in Germany? Do they have the latest evolutions?

[Wim_Impreza]

Sandro Wallenwein and Hermann Gaßner have the latest evolutions on their cars and Corazza was already really fast with his Lancer Evo 7 in the past years. Rain is always better for a Group N car than dry weather, we all know that.

[morganmilan]

Only 16 seconds between first (Kahle) and third (M.Wallenwein). Sandro between them 7 sec behind Kahle. And only one ss to go! :) . I believe, HaCo, wet surfaces make less gap between N4 and S2000, but S2000 are fastest over all surfaces. But, you´re right, tallent is important and Sandro is faster than Gassner or Corazza (Noller has got some very good times). Sandro has a very evolutionated Subaru, i guess, but Noller drives an Evo VIII!

[morganmilan]

well, it looks like Kahle has won, S.Wallenwein, second and M.Wallenwein third, so 1-3 for Skoda :)

[morganmilan]

Final results from Wikinger rally:
1Matthias Kahle (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=5588)Skoda Fabia Super 2000 01:25:36.100 00:00.000
2Sandro Wallenwein (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=5586)Subaru Impreza N 15 01:25:42.400 00:06.300
3Mark Wallenwein (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=4404)Skoda Fabia Super 2000 01:25:49.300 00:13.200
4Hermann Gaßner (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=5598)Mitsubishi EVO X 01:26:41.300 01:05.200
5Rainer Noller (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=5590)Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 MR 01:27:59.500 02:23.400
6Peter Corazza (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=5571) Mitsubishi Lancer 01:28:13.800 02:37.700
7Olaf Dobberkau (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=5573)Porsche 911 GT 3 01:28:53.600 03:17.500
8Felix Herbold (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=4412)Honda Civic Type r R3 01:28:57.700 03:21.600
9Max Christensen (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=3901)Subaru Impreza 01:29:22.500 03:46.400
10Michael Pedersen (http://www.rallyresult.dk/drivers.aspx?driverid=3905) Mitsubishi Evo 9 01:29:42.900 04:06.800

[HaCo]

The broken Porsche of yesterday:
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/pics/729b7451da.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/dm/galerien/2010/wikinger-rallye/bilder-nico-meyer/index.html?tx_gooffotoboek_pi1[fid]=3&cHash=55bb160c66

[morganmilan]

Good picture, HaCo :)
In DRM 2010 Kahle on lead with 30 points; S.Wallenwein, 23; Herbold, 21; Mysliwietz,20; M.Wallenwein,18...

[jolle1982]

mark wallenwein lost 30 seconds by an spin on saturday morning and he had a lot of problems with his engine!!

[jolle1982]

Pictures of the first round of german gravel cup are online!!!

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/wittenberg_37.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/wittenberg_01.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/wittenberg_46.jpg

Fotos Rallye Wittenberg (http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=39:rallye-wittenberg)

[morganmilan]

Well, it lokks like Burkart finally is going to run five JWRC rallyes with Suzuki again :)

[jolle1982]

Video Rally Wittenberg!!

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[morganmilan]

Rally Vogelsberg will be the second round for DRM 2010. There will be a shakedown on 15th, thursday, three stages on Friday and another eight stages on Saturday. This is the link for the rally
http://www.rallye-vogelsberg.de/
and provisional entry list
http://extreme-it.de/rcweb/index.php?cmd=show_vdetails&guid=416c6fef79295ccdb46c4851036ef774&mode=1&showtab=7

[morganmilan]

Next weekend Rally Erzgebirge, first round eligible for 2010 ADAC rally masters (first round, Havelland, was cancelled). Link for the rally
http://www.erzgebirgsrallye.de/
With Corazza, T.Wallenwein, Stölzel...but no Fabias S200:(

[morganmilan]

First leg of rallye Erzgebirge: Corazza (Mitsub) on the lead, Zeltner (BMW) second and Mohe (Clio) third almost on the same time.

[morganmilan]

Finish results from Erzgebirge rally : Corazza is the winner, and following Mohe and Zeltner. Poor result for Wallenwein

[morganmilan]

Here´s the link to Vogelsberg rally final entry list
http://www.rallye-vogelsberg.de/index.php/downloads/cat_view/58-nennlisten
Usual DRM drivers and from outside, specially Christensen´s Impreza and Wittmann´s Peugeot 207 S2000. It will be interesting the fight between Kahle and Wallenwein´s Fabias and Wittmann

[jolle1982]

Fotos Rally Erzgebirge are Online!!!

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/medium/erze_47.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/medium/erze_01.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/medium/erze_23.jpg

<<<Fotos Rallye Erzgebirge>>> (http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=41:rallye-erzgebirge)

[morganmilan]

Superb pictures Jolle,as usual! :)

[morganmilan]

Second leg of rally Vogelsberg in Hessen: After 7 ss hard battle for the victory: five drivers in 30 sec!! Wittmann, Kahle, SWallenwein, MWallenwein and Gassner at the top five positions. Only 30,3 sec between first and fifth and six ss to go yet. :)

[HaCo]

Very nice battle there in Germany!!

[morganmilan]

Very nice battle there in Germany!!
Indeed, HaCo. After nine ss positions remain the same (except Mark going third and Sandro fourth). Wittmann is making today a splendid race and has got 11.1 sec ahead from Kahle, who was first yesterday.

[morganmilan]

Two ss to go and Wittmann is almost sure winner. Kahle retired with mechanical problems. Now MWallenwein second, and Sandro third. Difference between first and second near 20 sec

[morganmilan]

Final results in Vogelsberg rally: Wittmann wins, MWallenwein, second, SWallenwein, third, and behind Gassner and Corazza. Herbold takes victory in 2WD.

[morganmilan]

After rally Vogelsberg, the situation in DRM 2010 is quite different: Herbold leads (44 points). After him Sandro and Mark Wallenwein (41 both) and Mysliwietz (40). Herbold and Mysliwietz take points for winning division 2 and 3... :)

[Tom206wrc]

Very well done Franz Wittmann Jr :)

[morganmilan]

Next 28th and 29th of May will be held Sachsen Rally, DRM third round. Entry list can be found here
http://www.avd-sachsen-rallye.de/fahrer-informationen/starterliste.html

[jolle1982]

today start of the third round of the german championship avd sachsen rallye!

Entrylist: http://avd-sachsen-rallye.de/fahrer-informationen/starterliste.html

[morganmilan]

Leg 1 of Sachsen Rally is ending and after 6 ss Dobberkau (Porsche) leads in front of both Skodas of Kahle and Wallenwein. Seven first crews in less than a minute :eek: . Tomorrow second and last leg :)

[morganmilan]

Sachsen rally: After 10 ss epic battle between Dobberkau and Kahle, only 0.4 s between them :eek:

[morganmilan]

Sachsen rally: After 10 ss epic battle between Dobberkau and Kahle, only 0.4 s between them :eek:
Sorry, my fault. 8.2 s indeed between them, but a lot of equality at the end...

[Mirek]

What happened to Mark Wallenwein and Hermann Gassner?

[morganmilan]

]What happened to Mark Wallenwein and Hermann Gassner?
Wallenwein is running 13th ss and Gassner sr. was out at 9th ss. Sorry Mirek, you´re right. It looks like Mark has got problems at 13 th stage

[morganmilan]

M.Wallenwein has crashed at 13th ss. Crew is ok.

[Mirek]

Thank You

[morganmilan]

Last ss too short: only 6.77 km. The differences will be very short. Dobberkau wins the rally in front of Kahle, with a gap of 5 sec. Sandro Wallenwein is finally third

[jolle1982]

Pictures Sachsen rally Online!!!

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/sachsen_016.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/sachsen_0061.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/sachsen_037.jpg

<<<Fotos Sachsen Rallye>>> (http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=45 :s achsen-rallye)

[morganmilan]

Superb pictures as usual Jolle!
In DRM after 3 rallyes (two else to go), standings are very interesant with four drivers at the top with only four points between them. Official standings are not published yet, but I believe we have S.Wallenwein (62 pts), Herbold (61), Mysliwietz (60) and Kahle (58) at top positions. Then fifth M.Wallenwein (but 41 pts). Very hard battle for the title...

[Mirek]

Point system of DRM is very strange for me.

[jolle1982]

there are points in overall classment and division points! porsche s2000 and group n are divison 1, R3 division 2, r2 division 3! herbold become maximal points on wikinger,vogelsberg and second place in sachsen and in every three rallye points in overall classment! mysliwitz become in all three rallys maximal divisons points and a few points in overal classment! in division 1 are to many drivers which the take away points eachother!thats a bad system!!

[Mirek]

Yes, I know how it works and therefore I said I found it strange ;)

[Jarek Z]

Yes, it's always wrong to complicate simple things.

So is it Porsche that won this event?

[morganmilan]

Yes, it's always wrong to complicate simple things.

So is it Porsche that won this event?
Genau, Jarek! :) Dobberkau won first time this year, but I think he´s out of title battle. Yes, point sistem is a bit complicated. It´s supposed to be an option for less powerful cars drivers to fight for being german champion. I think it´s not such a bad idea, but I´m really not sure at all... :D

[Jarek Z]

Genau, Jarek! :) Dobberkau won first time this year

Danke Morgan. Das ist wunderbar! :)

[Ucci]

That is something for me: Porsche 911 in front of S2000-and not to forget, a top driver in S2000.....I like it.....Shame for all drivers with four wheel drive...Now, as Vallejo changed his 911 for a Fiesta, Olaf Dobberkau is the last European driver, who is capable to ''destroy'' drivers in S2000 cars....

[vino_93]

Don't forget Fuster, who is good too with the Porsche :)

this system of points is the same in France. I don't like this too ... :(

[morganmilan]

Point scoring system is an issue that can be opinable. What it´s a shame IMO is a championship with only five rallyes. One failure and your options to fight for the title are almost over. DRM should have unless 7 or 8 scoring rallyes as another national championships. Besides it´s too short!!!

[morganmilan]

By the way, I made a mistake with DRM 2010 standings after Sachsen. Leading are Herbold and Mysliwietz with 61 points, then SWallenwein (59) and Kahle (53). Dobberkau is sixth with 36 points. Sorry :(

[rallyelee]

Foto from Sachsen Rallye on http://www.rallyesportfotos.de online

reg.Jörg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10zw51.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10zw32.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10zw46.jpg

[jolle1982]

Video AvD Sachsen Rally by http://www.rallyefreaks.de!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbhc9wejK-0

[morganmilan]

Tomorrow starts Thüringen Rallye, which scores points for DRS (second division rally german league) with a very good entry list: Kahle (with Octavia WRC); Dobberkau (current leader at DRS), Stölzel and Werner with Porsches and many czech teams (Donat, Cvrcek, Slehofer, etc). Link to start list: http://www.thueringen-rallye.com/Fahrer/Starterliste.html
The rally will be held at Friday and Saturday :)

[morganmilan]

First leg at Thüringen rally (2 ss): Kahle leads, with three Porsches behind (Werner, Stölzel and Dobberkau), and Cvrcek fifth. Slehofer leads 2WD. Tomorrow 8 ss else.

[morganmilan]

Two stages to go and Werner with his Porsche between Kahle and Cvrcek, both with Octavia WRC (47 sec and 1 min 09 sec between leader, second and third)

[morganmilan]

Well, final results (ss9 was not runned): Kahle (Octavia WRC), first, then Werner (Porsche), Cvrcek (Octavia WRC) (only 0.7 sec behind), Stölzel (Porsche) and Coffey (Impreza WRC). Slehofer won 2WD.

[morganmilan]

Well: Next weekend Eifel rally, fourth round for DRM (only two rounds for the championship to be decided). We have one SS on Friday, and 10 ss on Saturday. Here´s the link to entry list: http://eifel-rallye.de/Nennungen.html
All the current contenders and two special news: Bruno Thiry with a Citroen C2, and Aaron Burkart with a Peugeot 207 S2000!! :eek: .

[Jarek Z]

Wow! More historic than modern cars! :)
Can I ask for a photo of a rally version of Porsche 924? ;)

[morganmilan]

Wow! More historic than modern cars! :)
Can I ask for a photo of a rally version of Porsche 924? ;)
:D
I´m trying to upload one or two...but can´t for the moment. You have a picture on thread "quattro group s" page 2

[jolle1982]

Fotos 4. Round of German Gravel Cup Online!!!

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/junior_66.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/junior_18.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/junior_17.jpg

<<<Fotos Rallye Sachsenring Junior 2010 (http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=49:rallye-sachsenring-junior)

[morganmilan]

For Jarek: a picture of Porsche 924 rally (gr4), sorry for the small size, but I don´t know how to enclose pictures directly in the post.

file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/usuario/CONFIG%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png

[HaCo]

Looking forward to the Eifel rally, pitty I can't visit.

[Jarek Z]

Thanx a lot Morgan! I must say I really like this Porsche! Pity I can't see it in action! More photos are welcome! :)

[morganmilan]

You´re welcome Jarek! :)
As I said, I can´t post pictures directly (How can you do it Jolle?) : Here´s attachments to small pictures:

[morganmilan]

Another one (I can only upload one picture every post):

[morganmilan]

Another:

[morganmilan]

And the last one:

[rallyelee]

this is a Porsche924 in the German Gravel Cup

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10lwbg6.jpg


on http://www.rallyesportfotos.de images from the last run to the gravel cup (Rallye Sachsenring)

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10sr29.jpg

[rallyelee]

Eifel Rally after SS 5

1 KAHLE
2 WALLENWEIN, M. +00:09.5
3 DOBBERKAU, O. +00:13.9
4 WERNER, A. +00:32.8
5 WALLENWEIN, S. +01:00.1
6 MOHE, C. +01:32.0
7 STöLZEL, M. +01:32.7
8 ZELTNER, R. +01:40.2
9 SOUVIGNè, M. +01:54.6
10 THIRY, B. +01:57.7

latest videos from the Eifel Rally
http://www.rallyemovie24.de/


2011 is the eifel rally no longer be going to DRM
there will be a historical rally

[morganmilan]

Rally Eifel ended and Kahle got a new victory with 28 sec ahead Dobberkau, 41.6 sec ahead M.Wallenwein, more than a minute ahead S.Wallenwein and more than two minutes ahead Gassner. Mohe won 2WD and Burkart, first time with a s2000, only got twelfth position. Good result for Skoda (first and third) in order to win DRM. Link for final results
http://eifel-rallye.de/LiveErgebnisse.html

[Wim_Impreza]

It wasn't the first time for Burkart in a S2000. He drove the Rally del Casentino a week ago and won the S2000 class there.

[morganmilan]

OK Wim, thnx, I suppose it was with the same car from Racing Lions. I haven´t found results from that rally (Casentino). At Burkart´s own website there´s no news about that (at least I haven´t red) and only about Eifel

[morganmilan]

After Eifel, with only Saarland to run, at DRM, Kahle is new leader with 83 points. After him, Mysliwietz (76), SWallenwein (74), Herbold (73) and MWallenwein, Dobberkau and Mohe (all of them 59). So title is to be decided at last round with 7 contenders :eek:

[Rallyphotos]

You can find photos from the Eifel Rallye and the Eifel Historic at:

http://www.STO-Motorsportfotos.de

Have fun
Oliver

http://www.sto-motorsportfotos.de/fotolinks/eifel2010_2.jpg

http://www.sto-motorsportfotos.de/fotolinks/eifel2010_1.jpg

http://www.sto-motorsportfotos.de/fotolinks/eifel2010_3.jpg

http://www.sto-motorsportfotos.de/fotolinks/eifelhisto2010_1.jpg

http://www.sto-motorsportfotos.de/fotolinks/eifelhisto2010_3.jpg

[jolle1982]

Video Rallye Sachsenring by rallyefreaks.de online!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5nfgAUWfhY

[morganmilan]

Tomorrow Baden-Würtemberg rally, not scoring round for DRM, with Gassner, SWallenwein and Noller as favourites. Also Slehofer and Tosovsky from Czech republik. Link to entry list
http://www.rallye-baden-württemberg.de/files/PDF/100711%20Nennungsliste.pdf (http://www.rallye-baden-w%C3%BCrttemberg.de/files/PDF/100711%20Nennungsliste.pdf)
Total 10 ss to go:
http://www.rallye-baden-württemberg.de/files/PDF/100710%20Strecken-%20und%20Zeitplan.pdf (http://www.rallye-baden-w%C3%BCrttemberg.de/files/PDF/100710%20Strecken-%20und%20Zeitplan.pdf)

[morganmilan]

Today is rallye Baden-Wurttemberg running. I forgot to say it´s also scoring round for Mitropa Cup. Gassner goes in front of tis cup, with Slehofer (Fiat) ans slovenian Asja Zupanc (Mitsubishi) as strongest contenders. All of them are running the rallye. Sorry for not mentioning that.
After three stages, Gassner leads, then Noller, Zupanc and Slehofer (first 2WD)

[Wim_Impreza]

Gaßner (Evo 10) still leads after SS5 before Noller (Evo 8 MR), fast Slovenian female driver Zupanč and the Czech drivers Tošovský (Evo 9) and Šlehofer (Punto S1600).

Jaroslav Mikulenka (Evo 8) and David Tomek (Clio R3) already retired. :(

[morganmilan]

Two ss to go. Gassner, clearly lradering (1 min 45 sec advantage) before Noller, Zupanc (very fast), Tosovsky and Slehofer

[morganmilan]

Well, rallye ended with same positions as at last post. So Gassner wins, Noller second (2 min 11 sec gap), Zupanc third (21 sec gap), Tosovsky (38 sec gap) and Slehofer (8 sec). Gassner, clear favourite at Mitropa Cup :)

[modri dirkac]

Well, rallye ended with same positions as at last post. So Gassner wins, Noller second (2 min 11 sec gap), Zupanc third (21 sec gap), Tosovsky (38 sec gap) and Slehofer (8 sec). Gassner, clear favourite at Mitropa Cup :)

Way to go, Asja!!! :D She is still 2. in Mitropa Cup. ;)

[morganmilan]

This weekend last round for DRM 2010, Saarland rally. There will be two legs: first on Friday (4ss) and second on Saturday (8ss). Title will be decided with many contenders with options to win. It promises to be a very interesting weekend. Link to entry list:
http://www.extreme-it.de/rcweb/index.php?cmd=show_vdetails&guid=f2217062e9a397a1dca429e7d70bc6ca&showtab=7
Besides all the current contenders at DRM , will run T.Neuville and K.Princen :)
Current standings at DRM (first four drivers): Kahle 83, Mysliwietz 76, SWallenwein 74, Herbold 73

[tolis]

Title will be decided with many contenders with options to win.
Can you tell us the contenders? Thank you. :)

[morganmilan]

You´re welcome Tolis :) . Kahle is principal favourite, but Mysliwietz and Herbold will probably win their classes and score many points as in previous races. SWallenwein runs directly against Kahle and must take unless 10 points more. MWallenwein, Mohe and Dobberkau, who are fifth at championship, have nowadays 59 points (all of them) and are a little bit far from leader. If Kahle has got problems, Mysliwietz or Herbold would give a very big surprise :eek:

[Mirek]

German ASN should get rid of that stupid point system. It's absolutely unreal...

[morganmilan]

Maybe... :rolleyes: I suppose it´s a question of choice, although, certainly, if Mysliwietz became champion, it wouldn´t be representative at all...

[morganmilan]

Saarlad rally is on the run...First two ss and MWallenwein is first, and Kahle only third behind Dobberkau. At div2 Herbold (contender for title) is second behind Mohe, and at div3 Neuville takes advantage from Mysliwietz (current second at DRM)

[morganmilan]

End of first leg: MWallenwein goes on as leader, and following Dobberkau, Kahle and SWallenwein, so Kahle would took only 18 points for championship. Herbold is third on his class (after Princen and Mohe) and Mysliwietz is second (after Neuville: 1 min 36 sec in four ss!!). So with current situation Kahle would become champion. Let´s wait for tomorrow...

[morganmilan]

Yesterday ended finally saarland rally and DRM 2010: MWallenwein surprised and won the rally ahead of Kahle (1-2 for Skoda) and Dobberkau. At div 2 won Mohe, then Princen and Herbold, and at div 3 won Neuville in front of Mysliwietz. Kahle didn´t fail and took his seventh german title ;)

[morganmilan]

And final clasification at DRM 2010 is:
1-Kahle-Göbel (div1)-106 pt
2-SWallenwein-Poschner (div1)-92 pt
3-Mysliwietz-Schumacher (div3)-91 pt
4-Mwallenwein-Kopczyk (div1)-89 pt
5-Herbold-Zemanyk (div2)-87 pt
More information at official DRM page:
http://www.deutsche-rallye-meisterschaft.de/saison-2010/drm-stand.html

[Wim_Impreza]

Who is champion in Division 2, Felix Herbold or Carsten Mohe?

Only 5 national rallies in a season and a very difficult points system isn't good.

[morganmilan]

Who is champion in Division 2, Felix Herbold or Carsten Mohe?

Only 5 national rallies in a season and a very difficult points system isn't good.
Nice to hear from you again Wim ;) . Herbold is champion. Mohe made a better season with three victories, but his failure at Hessen with 0 points broke his expectations to become champion. Herbold, however, scored points at all the rounds..
Iagree with you: five rallyes are too few, and one failure is almost impossible to recover, and points system gives too much importance to division points instead of scratch points :rolleyes:

[Wim_Impreza]

Thank you for the answer and the nice words.

Princen let pass Mohe in the standings at the end of the rally, because both thought Mohe would be champion in the Division 3 than. Mohe asked Princen to drive this rally to have a driver between him and Herbold in the Division 3 class. Even a good driver as Carsten Mohe finds the German points system too difficult to understand...

Hopefully there will be an other points system next year and it should be great if there will be one event more in the national calendar.

[morganmilan]

You´re right Wim, it would be great. Thnx for the info :)

[morganmilan]

Felix Herbold, division 2 champion this year at DRM, will probably run next year at division 1 with a Fiesta s2000, instead his current Civic.

[morganmilan]

Rumours on a six-rally championship in Germany next year. Eifel will probably go out and Lausitz and perhaps BadenWurttemberg in, but there isn´t anything sure yet...

[morganmilan]

Yesterday finished Zwickauer rally (fifth round for DRS 2010, a second rally league in Germany). Great battle between Porsches: Werner vs. Dobberkau. Werner won (4.2 sec gap) and now he´s new leader at DRS with 179 points for Dobberkau´s 176. Two rounds to go: Lausitz and Rallyesprint (both of them in October). Great duell for sure! :)

[Mirek]

Lausitz is gravel. I guess Dobberkau drives Lancer there, how about Werner?

[jolle1982]

Pictures rally zwickauer land online!!!
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/zwicklauer_land_01.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/zwicklauer_land_39.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/zwicklauer_land_08.jpg



<<< Fotos rallye Zwickauer Land 2010 >>> (http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=54 :z wickauer-land)

[morganmilan]

]Lausitz is gravel. I guess Dobberkau drives Lancer there, how about Werner?
Right Mirek, 98% gravel. I suppose Dobberkau will run with the Lancer, and Werner with the Porsche unless he get another car in time (IMHO very difficult if possible). We´ll see the entrylist. Anyway Werner is registered at DRS series with his Porsche, but Dobberkau with no specific car. Maybe that´s significative...

[morganmilan]

News about rally Lausitz (next DRS round): Dobberkau will be there with a Lancer or a Subaru (I guess Lancer better), Stölzel with a Skoda Octavia WRC, and Werner, with a Lancer or an Audi Quattro S2 (you were right Mirek :D ). Dobberkau and Werner are main contenders for title

[morganmilan]

Entry list for Lausitz with plenty of new entries: A lot of WRC (Kahle and Stölzel with Octavias, Wevers with Fabia, Van Eldik and de Jong with Lancers), Kuzaj with his Fabia s2000, Herbold with a Citroen c2, etc. Link for entry list (only provisional at the moment):
http://www.rrc-lausitz.de/level9_cms/download_user/Nennungen.pdf

[CWJ]

News about rally Lausitz (next DRS round): Dobberkau will be there with a Lancer or a Subaru (I guess Lancer better), Stölzel with a Skoda Octavia WRC, and Werner, with a Lancer or an Audi Quattro S2 (you were right Mirek :D ). Dobberkau and Werner are main contenders for title

Doubt Werner will be there and Dobberkau will be better in a Subaru, enough Lancer on its way ...

[morganmilan]

Doubt Werner will be there and Dobberkau will be better in a Subaru, enough Lancer on its way ...
Right, CWJ. Dobberkau with an Impreza WRC. Let´s wait for Werner... :)

[morganmilan]

Vierimaa with Focus WRC and Cvrcek with Octavia WRC will be at Lausitz too. It will be the most international german rally of the year! (exception Deutschland rally of course :D )

[morganmilan]

Next 22-23 October 3 Städte rally, eighth and last round of Mitropa Cup. Hermann Gassner ans Asja Zupanc are title contenders. Dead line for registration is next 18th.

[morganmilan]

Kahle had problems with oil pressure in his Octavia WRC and he will start at Lausitz with his offroad SAM 35 instead :D

[jolle1982]

Pictures Shakedwon Lausitz Rallye

http://1.1.1.5/bmi/www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/lausitz_shakedown_01.jpg

http://1.1.1.5/bmi/www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/lausitz_shakedown_15.jpg

http://1.1.1.3/bmi/www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/lausitz_shakedown_09.jpg

<<< Fotos Shakedown Lausitz Rallye >>> (http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=58 :s hakedown)

[morganmilan]

Start list for Lausitz rally
http://www.rrc-lausitz.de/level9_cms/download_user/Startliste%20Homepage.pdf
After ss1 classification is:
1-Van Eldik
2-Kuzaj
3-de Jong
4-Gassner
5-Tosovsky
Dobberkau out

[morganmilan]

After first leg situation rmains the same. Only 2 sec between Van Eldik and Kuzaj, and first german driver (Gassner) 1min 05 sec behind leader (a lot of time). Only one german driver between first five contenders. Not a good result indeed :mad: . Very fast Kuzaj against WRC cars :) . Will he finish? :D

[morganmilan]

After five ss (three to go) great battle between Van Eldik and Kuzaj (well done for Leszek with a Fabia s2000 against a Lancer WRC) with only 4 sec gap. Third is Gassner (more than 2 min), and then Korda and de Jong

[morganmilan]

Rally Lausitz was finished: Victory for Van Eldik, second overall Kuzaj (He did finish!), and then Korda, de Jong and Gassner (first german driver at scratch) :) . Dobberkau out at the first ss, Werner didn´t run, neither did Kahle (mechanical problems before the rally).

[jolle1982]

Pictures of Rally Lausitz by rallyefreaks.de online!!!

http://1.1.1.1/bmi/www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/lausitz_day_2_21.jpg

http://1.1.1.5/bmi/www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/lausitz_samstag_01.jpg

http://1.1.1.3/bmi/www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/lausitz_samstag_22.jpg

http://1.1.1.2/bmi/www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/galerien/data/500/lausitz_samstag_21.jpg

<<< Fotos Lausitz Rally 2010 >>> (http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=57:lausitz-rallye)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Bravo Kuzi !!!! :)

[morganmilan]

Pictures of Rally Lausitz by rallyefreaks.de online!!!
http://www.s298227569.online.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=57:lausitz-rallye

Superb pictures Jolle! ;)

[rallyelee]

more pics from Lausitz Rally on http://www.rallyesportfotos.de

reg. Jörg


http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10la3.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10la14.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10la16.jpg

http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10la25.jpg

[morganmilan]

Third one is astonishing! :eek:

[morganmilan]

After Lausitz, next weekend DreiStädte rally, last round for Mitropa Cup. Seeded entry list with start order:
http://www.aktionpuppe.de/3sr/online-docs/nnlst10.pdf

[morganmilan]

After Lausitz standings at DRS 2010: Dobberkau (186), Werner (179), Muschiol (167). Only one round to go at the end of October

[darkstar]

here´s my video from the very nice lausitz rallye 2010, have fun:

www.rallye-mad.com (http://www.rallye-mad.com/view_movie.php?action=show&id=175)

Lausitz Rallye 2010 HD (http://www.rallye-mad.com/view_movie.php?action=show&id=175)

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3636/vorschaulausitzgross.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/view_movie.php?action=show&id=175)

direct hd youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrwcKmgM4Xs&hd=1

[qbus]

I'm looking for any photos or videos of Honda Civic EG6 with 100 number. For us rally was end maybe 600 m before stop of ss Nochten. We hang on a car maybe 15 cm away from the road.

germany rally has great is that the competitors are more to get rank first. i like michel shumaker who is best drive in rally

[morganmilan]

germany rally has great is that the competitors are more to get rank first. i like michel shumaker who is best drive in rally
I don´t understand really anything :confused: What are you trying to mean? And who´s that rally driver "michel shumaker"? Maybe formel 1 driver Michael Schumacher? Did he ever rally? :rolleyes:

[NaBUru38]

Excuse me, what's the difference between the Meisterschaft (DRM) and the Series (DRS)?

[morganmilan]

Excuse me, what's the difference between the Meisterschaft (DRM) and the Series (DRS)?
You´re welcome :) . German rally scene is a bit complicated. DRM is the major championship, with five rallyes this year, and its winner, Kahle, becomes german rally champion. DRS is akind of second league, organized by AvD, with seven rallyes this year, and with a point system a little different (entry is given 10 points), and WRC cars are allowed to entry in most rallyes (not at DRM)

[jolle1982]

Video Lausitz Rally by rallyefreaks.de is online!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuq3q4vpElo

[CWJ]

Interesting still seeing 3 Skoda Octavia WRC running in A10 in Germany. Bit strange for a non homologated car.

[morganmilan]

Rally Drei Städte is being run today. After 9 ss (3 more to go), Gassner leaders. Behind him Pritzl, Slehofer, Zupanc ( at almost 2 min and fighting against Gassner for Mitropa Cup title) and Tosovsky. Very fast Slehofer, third with a 2wd car, first at his class. Probably, easy title for Gassner :)

[morganmilan]

Rally ended remaining the same. So victory for Gassner-Thannhäuser. Then Pritzl, Slehofer, Zupanc and Tosovsky. Mitropa title for Gassner. Link to complete results:
http://www.rallye-daten.de/

[morganmilan]

2011 DRM will have a specific diesel cars championship:
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/top/topnews/d16/d/2010/10/26/diesel-masters-kehrt-in-drm-zurueck/index.html

[morganmilan]

Tomorrow and Saturday will be held ADAC rallyesprint, a sort of "end party" for this rally season at Germany. Very interesting entry list with first appearance of brand new Felix Herbold´s Fiesta S2000. Link to entry list with start order:
http://www.rallyesprint.eu/Formulare/Nennliste%20Wertung.pdf

[morganmilan]

Rallyesprint came to an end today, and DRS championship ended too. At Rallyesprint great surprise: Felix Herbold won at his first time with Ford Fiesta S2000 in front of two Fabias S2000 of MWallenwein and Kahle! :eek: Promising battle for next season!. At DRS Dobberkau finished 6.9 sec ahead Werner (problems for Dobberkau with an accident on last leg, that almost gave title to Werner), and Muschiol third.

[PLuto]

I hope that Felix will go abroad. German championship isnt enough for him...

[morganmilan]

With german saison just finished, it´s time to think a while about what´s over and to come. German DRM needs more rallyes in calendar. Five is not enough, and a gravel one as Lausitz would be ok, although championship would become maybe quite a little far expensive for teams.
There are some good drivers although rather aged to make international career: Kahle, Gassner sr, Dobberkau, Werner, Muschiol, Mysliwietz, etc. Better young ones are probably Mark Wallenwein (23 y.o.), Felix Herbold (25 and very impressive weith Fiesta s2000 at rallyesprint this weekend) and maybe C.Riedemann (23). Gassner (21) is fast and young but I would see him jumping to a new 1.6 T to face his real pace. WRC results arent too much convincing. I find Burkart (28) as a perfect driver for championships like ERC or regional cups. He´s got JWRC title at last, but I think this will be his highest success in WRC, although I wish I was wrong. I would like to see him at the wheel of a more powerful car too :)

[morganmilan]

To complete last post I must say that other two things else are probably very necessary. On one hand a new point system at DRM with more points to rally final scratch and less to class results, and perhaps leg points aside. On the other one, more german teams should race outside Germany and not only at cups as Mitropa or Lausitz, but ERC and IRC. Well, it´s just only a money matter now... :D

[darkstar]

here´s my video from the very nice rallyesprint.eu 2010, have fun :)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7559/vorschaustehr2010.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIYgDcjqnuw&hd=1)

hd videolink: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIYgDcjqnuw&hd=1

[Mixa]

Thanks for a great video once more. I have been following this thread so many times already but just haven´t given a go to write anything yet.

Anyway can´t wait to spectate some events in Germany at the future as I will be moving from Finland to Mülheim an der Ruhr to live with my girlfriend when the paper war is done. In the end my first ever national experience to German ralllying at national level was at last year in some event at Hildesheim when my girlfriend was still living in there.

Hopefully the next season will be good and the regulars and maybe even a few more drivers to top classes could sign in. As has been said I also think that the championship needs some changes for the system and maybe an event or a few more. What comes to cars,an increasing numbers of S2000´s worldwide still looks promising.

Will surely keep checking this thread for updates and rallyes.

[Salist]

Thanks, very nice video.

[morganmilan]

Very nice video Darkstar ;)
You´re welcome Mixa ;)

[morganmilan]

Next season DRM will begin with Wikinger rally on 24-26 March. Eifel is out and two more rallyes probably in, so a season with six scoring rounds

[morganmilan]

Germany gravel cup came to an end last weekend with High Forest Rallyefestival. The round was won by Wilfried Brunken (Evo 6), and second place for Jaakko Keskinen, finn, with Evo 10. Keskinen is now gravel champion here in Germany. Is he a well-known driver in Finland? Anyway, congratulations to him :)

[Mixa]

No,he isn´t if I´m not mistaken. What I was reading from some news before this his earlier championship were from rallysprint series here in Finland 11 years ago. He also said on the article that he got so many trophies and the German´s really seem to love them. Also on the news was this:

For the championship Keskinen earned for himself a nice amount of price money. The Finn still made a noble thing and donated the price money back to the series organiser.

"We made an agreement with the series organiser that the price money will be used to deveploment of the series and for some sort of stipend system. One possibility would be example that from Germany someone could come to drive one gravel rally for Finland." Keskinen were wondering.

Still keep the news coming. Can´t wait to hear how DRM is taking shape for next year.

[Jarek Z]

Hello guys! I was spectating a historic Rallye Koeln - Ahrweiler on the last weekend in Germany. The weather was ****, but the event itself was very nice. I just thought that someone of you would like to see some classic Audi Quattros, Porsches 911 or Toyota Celicas. In this case here is my photo gallery. Enjoy! :)
http://rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=5068

[morganmilan]

Hello guys! I was spectating a historic Rallye Koeln - Ahrweiler on the last weekend in Germany. The weather was ****, but the event itself was very nice. I just thought that someone of you would like to see some classic Audi Quattros, Porsches 911 or Toyota Celicas. In this case here is my photo gallery. Enjoy! :)
http://rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=5068
Great pictures! Great cars! ;)

[morganmilan]

Up by now we have only 2011 DRS calendar (a bit like second division championship):
DRS-Kalender 2011
12.-14.05. AvD-Sachsen-Rallye Zwickau
03.-04.06. DMV Rallye Thüringen Pößneck
05.-07.08. ADAC Rallye Wartburg Eisenach
26.-27.08. AvD-Niederbayern-Rallye Außernzell
01.10. ADMV Rallye Zwickauer Land Reinsdorf
13.-15.10. ADMV-Lausitz-Rallye Boxberg/O.L.
28.-29.10. Rallyesprint EU Storndorf
There are problems to choose rounds for DRM 2011, so let´s wait and see :rolleyes:

[darkstar]

great you guys liked the video :) hope to get some more good one´s from germy next year!

[morganmilan]

Gardemeister next year at IRC and in Lausitz rally with a BMW M3 :D
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/top/topnews/d16/d/2010/11/17/gardemeister-plant-lausitz-start/index.html

[morganmilan]

Some advances in next season DRM calendar: It will have probably five rounds plus two first days of Deutschland rally at the WRC. Now GT cars are to be allowed, problems seem to disappear... :rolleyes:

[mousti]

Some advances in next season DRM calendar: It will have probably five rounds plus two first days of Deutschland rally at the WRC. Now GT cars are to be allowed, problems seem to disappear... :rolleyes:
I don't think Dobberkau's Porsche doesn't go with the rules.. Adjustments will be made then on the car

[Ucci]

I don't think Dobberkau's Porsche doesn't go with the rules.. Adjustments will be made then on the car

Why not?? His 911 GT3 is almost standard, not much of changes on this car....this is not a Cup car reversed into rally car....

[Mirek]

Why not?? His 911 GT3 is almost standard, not much of changes on this car....this is not a Cup car reversed into rally car....

I think that 996 was almost stock car but 997 isn't. Stolzel and Werner use also sequential gearbox, don't they?

[HaCo]

With the upcoming R4 and some S2000, things might get very interesting. I hope Germans will build GT's to new FIA rules.

[jolle1982]

yes stözel and werner drive sequentiell!

[morganmilan]

Chaotic and sad situation for rallying in Germany. Up by now, there isn´t any deal between organizers of DRM and DRS. So , next season, it appears to bring two championships, without clear structure, and with totally different calendars :mad: . Important rallyes are now in DRS calendar already published as Wartburg, Sachsen or Lausitz. So, they can´t be eligible scoring rounds for DRM, unless an ultimate agreement be possible :rolleyes: .
The worst thing is that important teams as Skoda (Kahle and MWallenwein) or Robotracing (Herbold-Ford s2000) are thinking about not running DRM. Even there are rumours of Skoda Deutschland making IRC :eek: . DRM calendar is going to be known soon anyway. Let´s see... :confused:

[Leon]

Chaotic and sad situation for rallying in Germany. Up by now, there isn´t any deal between organizers of DRM and DRS. So , next season, it appears to bring two championships, without clear structure, and with totally different calendars :mad: . Important rallyes are now in DRS calendar already published as Wartburg, Sachsen or Lausitz. So, they can´t be eligible scoring rounds for DRM, unless an ultimate agreement be possible :rolleyes: .
The worst thing is that important teams as Skoda (Kahle and MWallenwein) or Robotracing (Herbold-Ford s2000) are thinking about not running DRM. Even there are rumours of Skoda Deutschland making IRC :eek: . DRM calendar is going to be known soon anyway. Let´s see... :confused:

the same thing is happening in Cyprus since 200? an I can confirm that things are going from bad to worse. Stupid egos and of course limited money around... for the results in the long term just check what happened in the US open wheel champ after CART-IRL split. NO WINNERS

[morganmilan]

At last, DRM calendar for 2011:
25. – 26.03.2011 ADAC Wikinger-Rallye 15. – 16.04.2011 ADAC Hessen-Rallye Vogelsberg
06. – 07.05.2011 ADAC Pfalz-Westrich-Rallye
22. – 23.07.2011 ADAC Rallye Baden-Württemberg
18. – 21.08.2011 ADAC Rallye Deutschland
24. – 25.09.2011 ADAC Saarland-Rallye
Big surprise is the entry of Deutschland rally from WRC (only two first days). It will be held a championship for 2WD teams

[morganmilan]

Rather dissappointing calendar :( . Problems to create a real german rally championship went on, and, now we have DRM with only 6 rounds (and one of them, Deutschland rally!!) and with 4 rounds on Southwest Germany!! and DRS with very important rallyes too, much more on East Germany :mad: . And main teams must know decide what they are going to do with this disaster :rolleyes: .

[morganmilan]

2011 Mitropa cup calendar (with two rallyes in Germany) and link:
Mitropa Rallye Cup 2011 www.mitropa-rally-cup.de (http://www.mitropa-rally-cup.de/)

11./12.03. Rally Ljubljana
08./09.04. Lavantal-Rallye/A
13./14.05. Rally Saturnus/SLO
27./28.05. CASTROL Rallye/A
22./23.07. ADAC Rallye Baden Württemberg/D
26./27.08. Rally del Friuli e Alpi Orientali/I
23./24.09. Rally Città di Bassano/I
21./22.10. ADAC-3-Städte-Rallye/D

[PLuto]

Alpi Orientali will be one week later.

[morganmilan]

Alpi Orientali will be one week later.
OK thnx PLuto ;)

[morganmilan]

Most recent rumours aim to a withdrawn of Skoda team from german championship. A program at IRC becomes possible, but all is uncertain up to now. Without Fabias and, possibly without Herbold´s Fiesta, german scene appears to be very devaluated next season :( . Let´s see...

[Tom206wrc]

What about german team ROMO with project of a second S2000 for IRC(after Interwetten let Franz Wittmann down) ???? Is it over for them too :confused:

[PLuto]

I was writing when they publish their "article" about second car, that it is funny article...

[morganmilan]

What about german team ROMO with project of a second S2000 for IRC(after Interwetten let Franz Wittmann down) ???? Is it over for them too :confused:
I have no idea indeed (although with one less sponsor ...) but, if Skoda definitely out from DRM, there´re free places for new german crown contenders :D

[morganmilan]

Link to new rally car classes rules in Germany, valid for 2011 (adapted to new FIA ones):
http://www.top100-rallye.de/downloads/dmsbklassen2011nata.pdf

[morganmilan]

Timo Bernhard (circuit works driver for Porsche) will run next DRM with a 911GT3

[Ucci]

Timo Bernhard (circuit works driver for Porsche) will run next DRM with a 911GT3

I've read this info yesterday-DRM will definitively gain a lot from this very spectacular car. As Timo is used to drive rear-wheel driven 911's, we will be able to see some sideways action and also hear nice sound from exhaust. Dobberkau, get ready!!http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/spin2.gif

[CWJ]

Don't think Bernhard will drive the championship. Dobberkau won't according to his homepage. More and more German drivers seem to like fun & fans more than ASN plans.

[morganmilan]

Don't think Bernhard will drive the championship. Dobberkau won't according to his homepage. More and more German drivers seem to like fun & fans more than ASN plans.
Why not? Have you gote some news about that? It´s certain we´ll have probably less topteams this year at DRM, but we must wait and see what both DRM and DRS bring. And, wether german top drivers don´t run home to make it abroad instead, we have really no problem. The goal is keeping on the run, wherever it is

[morganmilan]

This is the new priority ASN drivers list from DMSB for 2011:
Alexy, Carsten
Burkart, Aaron
Corazza, Peter
Dobberkau, Olaf
Gaßner, Hermann jun.
Gaßner, Hermann sen.
Herbold, Felix
Kahle, Matthias
Kremer, Armin
Mohe, Carsten
Mysliwietz, Lars
Noller, Rainer
Riedemann, Christian
Schwarz, Armin
Stölzel, Maik
Wallenwein, Mark
Wallenwein, Sandro
Werner, Anton

[morganmilan]

And DRM 2011 sets off next 24th March with Wikinger rally, as it was last season. Link to the rally:
http://www.wikinger-rallye.de/
with provisional entry list online. The most important entry so far up to now is Felix Herbold with his new Ford Fiesta s2000

[pucky54]

...with more and more S2000 to come :)

[hsmed]

As Wikinger Rallye is also a part of the Danish Championship you can also expect some S2000's from Denmark. 3 Peugeot 207 S2000 and one Abarth Grande Punto are running in Denmark.

[morganmilan]

Must we expect entries from Brian Madsen, Jensen, etc?

[hsmed]

The Danish Champion, Karl-Åge Jensen, has retired and his Peugeot 207 S2000 is sold to a guy called Esben Hegelund. He has until now driven a BMW M3 and has stated that he 'will take it easy' in the new car in 2011. Don't know if he will do the Wikinger.

Danish Champion 2009, Christian Jensen, has bought a new Peugeot 207 S2000 and is assembling it in his workshop now. It should be ready for Wikinger.

Ib Kragh has bought Chrstian Jensens old Peugeot 207 S2000 and he should also be ready for Wikinger.

Ib Kraghs Abarth Grande Punto has been sold to Klaus Hammer. He crashed in a Mitsubishi Lancer in Wikinger rally last year, so I don't know if he will use that rally as a debut for the Punto :-) I have not seen his plans for this year.

Don't know anything about Brian Madsens plans at all.

[morganmilan]

ok hsmed, a lot of thnx ;)

[hsmed]

Brian Madsen is now also listed as an entry in the Wikinger Rallye in a Peugeot 207 S2000

[morganmilan]

Brian Madsen is now also listed as an entry in the Wikinger Rallye in a Peugeot 207 S2000
Good news indeed!!

[morganmilan]

Olaf Dobberkau has made his entry in Wikinger rally with a Porsche 911. Let´s hope things begin to shake!

[morganmilan]

Sandro wallenwein is running DRM also this year with his Subaru

[Tom206wrc]

Fantastic Wikinger Rally to expect :D

[pucky54]

Good chance of seeing a Peugeot Super 2000 winning the event at the end :)

[Tom206wrc]

There won't be german drivers on Skoda Fabia S2000s ???? :confused:

[pucky54]

There won't be german drivers on Skoda Fabia S2000s ???? :confused:

It is not planned, but may be the cars HAVE TO start

[morganmilan]

It´s possible...Skoda is one of the sponsors of Wikinger rally, so maybe they´re there whatever they´re going to do for the rest of the season

[Mirek]

Both cars of Juka Motorsport used by Škoda Deutschland are already rebuilt to Evo II. They were in pre-season testing of our ASN last week ;)

[pucky54]

Both cars of Juka Motorsport used by Škoda Deutschland are already rebuilt to Evo II. They were in pre-season testing of our ASN last week ;)

Any photos? ;)

[Mirek]

http://www.pajuse.cz/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=9162&g2_serialNumber=2

[pucky54]

thx Mirek. Already found that by myself ;)

[morganmilan]

Talking about Wikinger rally and about 2wd cars, Lars Mysliwietz (last season, class 3 champion at DRM and one of main contenders for german crown, because of scoring system) is running with his Citroen C2R2 max again, and Carsten Mohe has changed his Clio for a brand new Megane RS! :eek:

[morganmilan]

These are Herbold´s plans for this season: Some DRM and DRS rallyes, and taking part in Deutschland (WRC) and Ypres (IRC):
ADAC Wikinger Rallye (DRM) 25. - 26. März 2011
ADAC Hessen - Rallye Vogelsberg (DRM) 15. - 16. April 2011
AvD Sachsen Rallye (DRS) 13. - 14. April 2011
DMV Thüringen Rallye (DRS) 02. - 04. Juni 2011
Ypern Rallye (IRC) 23. - 25. Juni 2011
ADAC Wartburg Rallye (DRS) 06. - 07. August 2011
ADAC Deutschland Rallye (SWRC) 18. - 21. August 2011
AvD Niederbayern Rallye (DRS) 26. - 27. August 2011
ADMV Lausitz Rallye 30. September - 01. Oktober 2011
Rallyesprint.eu 28. - 29. Oktober 2011

[darkstar]

this is my new hd video, from a small rallye in germany, but with some nice cars and good action:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3166/wolfhagen2011.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-E6SF1B0yg&hd=1)

direkt link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-E6SF1B0yg&hd=1

[Jarek Z]

That's a very interesting video! Thanks for sharing. Great to see all those old kit cars! And the Mitsubishi, that crashed so heavily (how did he do it by the way?) used to race in Poland two years ago...

[Ondra WRC]

Video from Felix Herbold test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFJHxWBL2I&feature=feedu

[modri dirkac]

Very nice video, I like shots that are not made in standard position. Now I know, why S2000 cars are so width ... :D :D :D

[morganmilan]

Very good videos!!

[darkstar]

That's a very interesting video! Thanks for sharing. Great to see all those old kit cars! And the Mitsubishi, that crashed so heavily (how did he do it by the way?) used to race in Poland two years ago...

thanks! yes, those kitcars were nice, the golf 3 won the rallyesprint :) but its not really a kitcar, its selfbuilt, but very nice. the mitsubishi(still has polish plates btw) was a little fast and cuttet in the fast left before that small crest i was standing at. because of the cut the frontwheel liftet up and the car went straight into a ditch, then it startet to flip over...

[Tom206wrc]

Are entries Wikinger Rallye closed by now ???? :confused:

[morganmilan]

Are entries Wikinger Rallye closed by now ???? :confused:
Yeah! There are 102 entries finally. And no Skodas s2000 at all! What a disaster! Not a good beginning for german championship this year. I were hoping for some last-hour entries that haven´t come at the end.

[CWJ]

LOL

http://www.wikinger-rallye.de/wikinger-rallye-2011/fahrer-info/nennungsliste/

[morganmilan]

LOL

http://www.wikinger-rallye.de/wikinger-rallye-2011/fahrer-info/nennungsliste/
Dissaponting, for sure, but it´s what we have. Let´s rejoice rallying even now.

[pucky54]

Disappointing? This will be the best entry list for a German national rally this year!!

[Ucci]

LOL

http://www.wikinger-rallye.de/wikinger-rallye-2011/fahrer-info/nennungsliste/


For me most important question: what is T.Bernhard capable of with his 911 GT3 Cup???? The car itself is a winning machine (especially in dry weather), there is nou doubt about it.... :!: .

[morganmilan]

Disappointing? This will be the best entry list for a German national rally this year!!
Disappointing related to last year´s time. As for the rest of events, let´s wait and see...

[Tom206wrc]

Disappointing? This will be the best entry list for a German national rally this year!!


Perhaps but no "german S2000" on entry(I mean Skoda is part of VAG group, so using german made parts) :mark:

[RS]

Perhaps but no "german S2000" on entry(I mean Skoda is part of VAG group, so using german made parts) :mark:

Using the same logic will I be able to call the Polo WRC Czech? ;)

[Mirek]

Perhaps but no "german S2000" on entry(I mean Skoda is part of VAG group, so using german made parts) :mark:

Heh, that doesn't make sense... Bodyshell is Czech, engine is French, transmission is British, dampers are Dutch, brakes are Italian... It's like any other car today - it's global.

[RS]

So will Skoda Deutschland do an IRC campaign instead?

[morganmilan]

So will Skoda Deutschland do an IRC campaign instead?
For me, it´s a complete mess. Some weeks ago, they were rumoured to run IRC. They haven´t made their entries to run DRM, but there are no offficial statements about a IRC campaign. Mirek said Juka racing would keep on providing cars, but there is no real goal up to now!. And btw, Mark Wallenwein´s web says nothing at all, and so does Kahlemotorsport

[Mirek]

AFAIK very limited IRC program is planned.

[pucky54]

They would not have updated the cars if they are not going to run them.

[Tom206wrc]

Heh, that doesn't make sense... Bodyshell is Czech, engine is French, transmission is British, dampers are Dutch, brakes are Italian... It's like any other car today - it's global.


Engine is french :confused: Don't ORECA prepare a Skoda engine :confused:

[Mirek]

Yes, of course. Oreca is French. Where is Your problem?

[Tom206wrc]

Yes, of course. Oreca is French. Where is Your problem?

To my knowledge ORECA prepares engine but doesn't build them, they uses existing basis...and me thought engine basis of Skoda is from VW :confused:

[Mirek]

Ok, yes, the basis is VW FSI 2.0 16V engine. But I still miss the point of searching the origin of every part in the car. I'm working on Ford parts. Does it make Ford a Czech car? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

When is seeded order entrylist of Wikinger Rallye published :confused:

[pucky54]

When is seeded order entrylist of Wikinger Rallye published :confused:

It already is: http://www.wikinger-rallye.de/blog/wp-uploads/2011/03/Startreihenfolge.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Pucky ;) on former enrylist S2000s had huge numbers that's why I didn't believe it was seeded orders yet :mark:

[pucky54]

You know in Germany anything can happen. Happyly they let not start the Diesel cars in front of the Super 2000 :D :D

[morganmilan]

Thanks Pucky ;) on former enrylist S2000s had huge numbers that's why I didn't believe it was seeded orders yet :mark:
They´ve taken the official numbers assigned to DRM drivers and have made a strange combination between german and danish teams...

[jolle1982]

my pictures of the Rallyshow sachsenring today are online!!!

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/rallye_show_13_1300559284.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/rallye_show_01_1300559282.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/rallye_show_05_1300559283.jpg

Fotos Rallyeshow Sachsenring (http://www.rallyefreaks.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=73%3Atest&Itemid=2)