Corona Rally Mexico 2010

[N.O.T]

i care about the winter olympics...

we came last.....

i was sad....

[N.O.T]

the super specials are on....

[A.F.F.]

i care about the winter olympics...

we came last.....

i was sad....

Don't worry. For me you're always sad.

[alleskids]

the battle in sWRC is reduced to a two man battle between Pons and Prokop. Al Attiyah is to far behind the 2 Ford drivers. Too bad that Kosiuszko and Brynildsen are in trouble.

[Viking]

He has a chance everytime he start to a new rally, and who cares about the winter olympics.

I were just pointing out that it was a really looooong time ago :)

[N.O.T]

come on finish folk you break my heart....the crew is ok.

I know the managers you cherish as gods filled you with hope and expectations but thats life....

[Boudica]

Kimi is flying!

Arr it seems like Kimi was just flying to much. I hope he can atleast continue tomorrow. He was quite fast when he was running. :p

[Micke_VOC]

i hate this tactics, why not use the system with points every day and forbidden split times..

[bluuford]

i hate this tactics, why not use the system with points every day and forbidden split times..

You had a bad sleep? at least you woke up on the right time :-)

[FAlonso]

Very interesting to see that the top 2 PWRC drivers are mixing it up with the SWRC boys. Probably due to the nature of these high-altitude stages.

[dimviii]

Block hit a bank at ss8

[WRXedUSA]

Popped a rear tire, no damage. Finished day one!

[L5->R5/CR]

The altitude is apparently causing the pace of many of the cars to suffer but not if the car is French it seems. Only Hennig Solberg's Stobart VKM M-Sport Focus seems to be the one Focus that seems to be handling the altitude well aside from Blocks Focus.


I didn't read the other 8 pages of replies yet but....


Block has run events here in the US at 6-8,000 feet above sea level every year since 2005. He should be familiar with the differences in how a car will respond, plus, with little seat time he doesn't know how his car should respond at better altitudes so he probably doesn't have to change his driving style as much...

[Micke_VOC]

Kimi roll 6 times according to mtv3...

"The car plunged down a hill and roll six times through the roof around."
Google translate:
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2010/03/1072091

[Mirek]

In terms of crashing abilities he is perfect substitute for Conrad and Evgeny :)

[ProRally]

Just back from the service parc, interesting day.... also met up with some US drivers.

[Boudica]

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2010/895957.jpg

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2010/895956.jpg

[gloomyDAY]

Just back from the service parc, interesting day.... also met up with some US drivers.Dude, you're making me so jealous!

¡Viva México!

[Jafry]

Photos from 1st leg (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=660&fseason=2010) ;)

[PLuto]

Photogallery from first leg by Mirek Knedla (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=9981)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_e33322db3057fd30886330ac67a6cac0.jpg

[PLuto]

Xevi Pons lost spare tyre in watersplash

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_b463b9e2489c298c308999f3f7ab071a.jpg

[PuroMotor]

More Pictures

http://www.revistapuromotor.com/galeria/albums/2010/rallywrcmexico2010/accidentekimi/Kimi1.jpg

http://www.revistapuromotor.com/galeria/albums/2010/rallywrcmexico2010/accidentekimi/Kimi2.jpg (http://www.revistapuromotor.com/galeria/index.php?cat=119)

[gloomyDAY]

Xevi Pons lost spare tyre in watersplash

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_b463b9e2489c298c308999f3f7ab071a.jpgTypical Mexican!

LOL

[6789]

Typical Mexican!

LOL
He's a millionaire now!!

Good first day for Petter, still think Loeb is the man to beat, he's only 30 seconds behind and is running 3rd on the road.

Kudos to Kimi for lasting until his 2nd WRC rally before he destroyed a car :P

Block is driving well

[Micke_VOC]

Inboard Kimi roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfK7posvqug

[Salist]

Inboard Kimi roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfK7posvqug

Thanks Micke!

[MJW]

Inexperience in making notes was the cause for that accident. It was a shame it happened as the driving was good, just should have kept out a little more on that corner.

[N.O.T]

unfortunatelly kimi is one of these drivers who are reckless and slow.....no future nobodies. A nice substitution to rautenbach.

[Rallyper]

unfortunatelly kimi is one of these drivers who are reckless and slow.....no future nobodies. A nice substitution to rautenbach.

Obviously you havent analyzed his off before you pukes out your
comments. :s mash:

Such offs has happened now and then even for much more experienced drivers.

I think Kimi did well. Let him have more driving experience and he will be on the podium maybe at the end of this year.

[N.O.T]

lol...

If i only had 1 cent for every useless driver who used the "needs more experience" excuse...

[Rallyper]

lol...

If i only had 1 cent for every useless driver who used the "needs more experience" excuse...

Yeah count the greek ones and maybe you´ll have whats needed for a pint.... :D

There are no more in your country. ;)

[Woodeye]

lol...

If i only had 1 cent for every useless driver who used the "needs more experience" excuse...

Have you noticed that none here agrees with any of your comments? I think that pretty much everyone here is fed up with your whining and crying.

[N.O.T]

don;t worry i have an official warning for diminishing your futre useless nobody star so i expect to be sent into vacation soon.

[Boudica]

Obviously you havent analyzed his off before you pukes out your
comments. :s mash:

Such offs has happened now and then even for much more experienced drivers.

I think Kimi did well. Let him have more driving experience and he will be on the podium maybe at the end of this year.

It seem like Kimi was already faster then he was in Sweden even without any testing, he should properly reign it in just a little bit, but I am sure he will realize this soon he is usually pretty sensible. At the moment it seems like he is just concentrating on getting faster. A bit more experience will be helpful, apparently they where also trying a new notes system. Or perhaps Kaj could try to reign him in a bit, but Kimi can be extremely stubborn, so it would properly be best if Kimi himself just realized it. :)

[Barreis]

Will he continue?

[Rallye_106]

Will he continue?

Nope:
http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=7122&desc=No+SuperRally+return+for+Raikkonen+

[Boudica]

Inboard Kimi roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfK7posvqug

Here is another one in better quality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovGj6vSMqa4

[EavesFan09]

Because of the 6hr time difference between Mexico and the UK I have hardly heard anything of the rally but I am starting to feel glad about it.

Yesterday was dissapointing for me. Ford to go away from Day 1 with a respectable performance or two but all Ford have to show is five 5th's, three 6th's and two 4th's. A mirror of how slow his split times have been on his closest rivals.

Hope Day 2 will be better for Ford.

[pettersolberg29]

Day 2 must be better for Ford. If Mikko doesn't win stages then their confidence will be shot bearing in mind his excellent road position. By the end of the day I expect Loeb to be way ahead, then Ogier, then Sordo, Petter and the two Fords very close in 3rd-6th

[MJW]

don;t worry i have an official warning for diminishing your futre useless nobody star so i expect to be sent into vacation soon.
Oh yes please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[N.O.T]

Oh yes please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

you are a bad man :( you hurt my feelings....

[COD]

Inexperience in making notes was the cause for that accident. It was a shame it happened as the driving was good, just should have kept out a little more on that corner.

having seen that onboard, nothing to do with notes, exactly correct note just a mistake from the driver.

[EavesFan09]

Day 2 must be better for Ford. If Mikko doesn't win stages then their confidence will be shot bearing in mind his excellent road position. By the end of the day I expect Loeb to be way ahead, then Ogier, then Sordo, Petter and the two Fords very close in 3rd-6th

There is another 11 rallies to go and the season is not won and/or lost in one rally (which is something to hold on to), but confidence needs to be retained for sure or they will loose the battle.

As for the Citroen's I don't know how the end of Day 2 will pan out overall but for sure I expect the ability for the Citroen's to remain strong to count.

[Francis44]

I understand Kimmi is a popular guy, but when you search for rally Mexico videos on Youtube there is like 6 videos of his crash on one single page.

This is annoying, it's not even funny anymore. He is a nice guy, I have no doubts but all this fuss around him is annoying for fans and bad for him too because he cant really concentrate on his goals.

[pettersolberg29]

Only 20 mins till the restart.
Let's have a quick 'guesstimate' competition. How much time will Petter lose to Sebastien Loeb on the first, 30km-long stage?

My guess is 32 seconds.

[Viking]

^^ More optimistic :) 10 sec

[pettersolberg29]

If its 10s I will be ecstatic - that suggests he could still lead/be close by the end of the day. See what it did to Mikko though? +1m30 in less kilometres...

[N.O.T]

only 2mins before your questions start to answer...

[jonkka]

Here we all are again... N:O:T and whatnot...

[Tom206wrc]

SS10 go :bounce:

[jonkka]

What a tasty chili-con-carne I cooked... Could have been hotter, though...

[N.O.T]

Solberg through 1st split...

[JRodrigues]

^^ More optimistic :) 10 sec

I bet in 15sec

[jonkka]

Petter better than Ogi

[dimviii]

good evening to everybody!!

Loeb -0,2 at first split

[N.O.T]

splits moving slow....

[A.F.F.]

I was thinking that should Petter lead at the third day, what then?

[pettersolberg29]

Ogier slower, Loeb faster. As expected?

[dimviii]

seems that Loeb gains about 0,4sec/km till split no2

[Tom206wrc]

And Latvala +0.6" at split one :s

[N.O.T]

the fords are crap....

[jonkka]

Yeh - shait...

[dimviii]

Mikko +0,1 at 1st split :o

[muscrae]

Hirvonen is still slow...

[A.F.F.]

Mikko and Jari-Matti suck.

[Tom206wrc]

Loeb already 6.4" faster than Petter ;)

[N.O.T]

and no split for Solberg....we must wait ...

[dimviii]

Loeb estimate to be about 1sec/km faster now. :vader:

[N.O.T]

Ogier sorry

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier :confused:

[N.O.T]

Loeb estimate to be about 1sec/km faster now. :vader:

you cannot estimate secs/kms when you don;t know at which Km mark the split is.....

[N.O.T]

Ogier fine and faster...

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier is here no problem :D

[dimviii]

you cannot estimate secs/kms when you don;t know at which Km mark the split is.....

Thats why i said ''about''
Marks are NOT equal,but they are in close gaps between them.

[N.O.T]

SOLBERG P. / MILLS P. "Everything is OK, it's very very loose. Last 7 kms I really struggled with the car. But it's OK."

rally.cz

[N.O.T]

Thats why i said ''about''
Marks are NOT equal,but they are in close gaps between them.

again the units should be secs/min not Kms...you don;t know if the 3min split is at 3rd km or 15th km

[muscrae]

Loeb will obviously pass Ogier here in this stage...

[pettersolberg29]

Sordo stopped

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen faster now maybe he wants to narrow the gap for tommorow but still be low on starting order....

[N.O.T]

OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. "It's difference than yesterday. It's very slippery, but OK. I tried clean run, no risk at all."

[pettersolberg29]

I'm actually quite impressed by Petter's pace. He won't have swept a stage for years, and he only lost 16s to the best rally driver ever.

[muscrae]

What happened to Sordo?

[N.O.T]

LOEB S. / ELENA D."Good time. I was pushing very hard. It's not good to clean road here. I had good rhythm."

[N.O.T]

Mr Sordo is losing it....

[pettersolberg29]

Wilson is really really bad. +11.3 at 3rd split compared to the sweeper!

[dimviii]

again the units should be secs/min not Kms...you don;t know if the 3min split is at 3rd km or 15th km

In a 22 km ss if you have 6 split points they are not in equal distance.but they are not 3 splits in 3kms and other 3 splits in 17 kms.
Secs/min you can estimate if you know how fast is the ss and the conditions rain/mud etc :)

[N.O.T]

Mr Block has my respect no more comments for him by me....OK he has no future but its a nice addition.

[Viking]

well around 0,5s/km is Petters loss, not to bad...

[muscrae]

Sordo hit a rock?

[N.O.T]

I think if no surpises occur he will be 2nd after this day and he will fight with the ford boys on day 3....but again long way to go...look at sordo.

[Rallye_106]

LATVALA J.-M. / ANTTILA M. (st. č. 4) "I really tried as quick as I can, but when you look at time of Sebastien, it's amazing. Dani was on side of the road, car was jacked up."

Puncture probably.

[dimviii]

well around 0,5s/km is Petters loss, not to bad...

Its not bad, but 70 km of ss they are going to be about 35secs

[Tom206wrc]

No Sordoooooo :mad:

[pettersolberg29]

Mr Block has my respect no more comments for him by me....OK he has no future but its a nice addition.

I completely agree. He's not a world beater but he is certainly a very respectable driver. Wilson and Villagra are hardly superstars, but to be quicker than them is very impressive.

[N.O.T]

Look at Block.... :) :) you can now officially ridicule me for my comments about him.

Go on i can take it.....

[N.O.T]

Hmmm i think Sordo mus be really angry right now...maybe i can send him a support e-mail to cheer him up ???

[Francis44]

Sordo may be under pressure.

Ogier starting to show his fast and Sordo having waves of problems, this is no good for him.

[muscrae]

Too bad for him after another great display of performance... :(

[dimviii]

Wilson into the ditch :D

[N.O.T]

maybe he was pushing too hard....

[A.F.F.]

Look at Block.... :) :) you can now officially ridicule me for my comments about him.

Go on i can take it.....

FYI, you have already ridiculed yourself, non of us can hardly beat you. :)

[Mirek]

Ken Block also reported stopped :(

[Viking]

Its not bad, but 70 km of ss they are going to be about 35secs

Yes but only 43km should mean that Loeb should be 10 seconds in front at service, should be less disadvantage on the rerun.

[Rallye_106]

Block stopped in stage. Shame.

EDIT: Mirek was faster.

[Tom206wrc]

Wilslow no more :mark:

[N.O.T]

FYI, you have already ridiculed yourself, non of us can hardly beat you. :)

I know.... Pity Block doesn;t have a good manager like some vendetta hype boys to control the crowds.

what FYI means ?

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Wilson is went into ditch?

[muscrae]

What a stage, three offs... :(

[dimviii]

Prokop looses a lot to Pons :confused:

[N.O.T]

block stopped....damn....i think i jinxed them.....i have a bad magic aura.

[Viking]

Mads Østberg wins..... Numedalsrally :) sorry OT

[CABAIO E'LONA]

that stage ibarrilla!

[alexlake]

]Ken Block also reported stopped :(

Fair do to Block, he is pretty quick, but he and Kimi need to drop the gangsta` rapper style hats ;)

[N.O.T]

Fair do to Block, he is pretty quick, but he and Kimi need to drop the gangsta` rapper style hats ;)

what if they are gangsta rappers ?

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Block broken the suspencion...

[Mirek]

Prokop looses a lot to Pons :confused:

Prokop had big problems all yesterday with leaking fuel into the car. He had a strong headache from the vaporing fuel.

[dimviii]

Block broken the suspencion...

and no service for 2 looong more ss?

[N.O.T]

so the fords now can aim podium places for sure.....

[dimviii]

Arai already passed Araujo

[muscrae]

Prokop is 14.7 slower than Pons...

[alexlake]

what if they are gangsta rappers ?

hmm, didnt think of that, please point me in the direction of the work of MC Kimi and DJ Block then :D

anyway, rallying, good to see Loeb on the move :D

[CABAIO E'LONA]

and no service for 2 looong more ss?

the most likely thing is that he is out ..

[JRodrigues]

Arai already passed Araujo

Same overall time

[Boudica]

hmm, didnt think of that, please point me in the direction of the work of MC Kimi and DJ Block then :D

anyway, rallying, good to see Loeb on the move :D

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTrdqg42-A

Sorry, I just had to do that. :p

[Boudica]

What is going on everyone is dropping out, Mexico is a difficult rally.

[JFL]

rallychat at http://www.allaboutrally.com

[RS]

Can anyone confirm that super-ralliers are allowed to score points?

I was just wondering about the sWRC guys... if so it seems that if you start in that category you are guaranteed points unless you have a terminal accident or retire on day 3!

[bluuford]

Can anyone confirm that super-ralliers are allowed to score points?

I was just wondering about the sWRC guys... if so it seems that if you start in that category you are guaranteed points unless you have a terminal accident or retire on day 3!

Yes, they are getting points.

[A.F.F.]

I see my pickems tremble like the wall of Jericho :mark:

[N.O.T]

next stage is on

[Viking]

ss11 is live

[N.O.T]

Ogier is becoming a rally driver :) :)

[pettersolberg29]

Ogier 7.6s quicker than Petter. Petter 3rd by the end...

[N.O.T]

maybe the citoren plan says Ogier 1st Solberg 2nd and Loeb 3rd on day 3 starting order....

[jonkka]

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTrdqg42-A

Sorry, I just had to do that. :p

How about one of the related videos?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ec0nSRXRWw&feature=related

See 1:47... :)

[MikeD]

I wonder what's wrong with the Ford team at this rally. Not even road position are making them fast. It's not that they haven't tried this rally before...

[Gordini]

I would be surprised if Solberg Jr is part of a Citroen plan!

[MikeD]

maybe the citoren plan says Ogier 1st Solberg 2nd and Loeb 3rd on day 3 starting order....

I doubt that Citroën can play around PSolberg's car/team.

[Rallyper]

I wonder what's wrong with the Ford team at this rally. Not even road position are making them fast. It's not that they haven't tried this rally before...

Obviously Ford has been going on as in the past years. Maybe Citroen has increased the turbopressure or anything else cheating...? :s mokin:

Or Ford just isn´t on the arena right now? :o

[CABAIO E'LONA]

8.3 Ogier faster than Petter in the 2º split...

[jonkka]

Mikko is missing a split :eek:

[A.F.F.]

Is Mikko out?

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Loeb lead..

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Is Mikko out?

no..

[mjh]

Glitch on splits for Mikko - 3rd split is up now, 1.9s slower than Loeb at that split....

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb may be too far ahead of Petter to play tactics if this continues! He'd need about 20s to survive through Sunday do you think?

[jonkka]

Looks pretty awful. Fords should have been able to cut the lead much if they were to have a shot at it... but no...

[Francis44]

It's still to early, without tactics I have no doubts that Solberg can catch Loeb on the second passes today, however I dont think Loeb will want to be the first on the road unless he has a 20 second advantage.

[mjh]

I get the impression Seb (L) is going absolutely flat out to get the biggest lead possible at the end of today.
Its been shortened tomorrow, so he won't have to sweep for long.

[pettersolberg29]

I agree with you mjh. He may have to lose over 30s if he wants to drop back to 2nd - its not worth it IMO.

[alexlake]

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTrdqg42-A

Sorry, I just had to do that. :p


:eek: :eek:

[bluuford]

looks like henning has found the solution for ford

[mjh]

JML and Mikko need to run Hennings set up :eek:

[jonkka]

looks like henning has found the solution for ford

Yeh - he's usually much slower than them but now it's the other way around - what's cooking?

[Viking]

JML and Mikko need to run Hennings set up :eek:

It is the driver, not the setup :D

[dimviii]

Prokop almost 7 seconds faster from Pons at first split. :eek: and Araujo faster from both :eek:

[muscrae]

It is the driver, not the setup :D

:D :D :D

[Mirek]

Prokop almost 7 seconds faster from Pons at first split. :eek: and Araujo faster from both :eek:

Pons had some troubles with clutch, maybe he has problems with starting to stage.

[dimviii]

PONS X. / HARO A. (st. č. 28) Reported engine stalled at start line

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=273&filtr=

[dimviii]

Prokop passed Pons

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Pons in problems..

[A.F.F.]

It is the driver, not the setup :D

This is what happens when you let Henning drive a car which isn't downgraded ;)

[CABAIO E'LONA]

hard, hard Mexico ... still remains as half of the rally ...

[A.F.F.]

This seem to be a rally Mikko can easily adapt back to his "old" style of driving. There's absolutely no point to push maximum since it doesn't help to catch Citroens. He can just cruise to finish and hope that as many as possible will retire in front of him... :mark:

[CABAIO E'LONA]

who be the next in the ditch? :D

[User]

Ogier

[muscrae]

Ogier is establishing consistency, so I don't expect a silly mistake from him...

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Henning?

[blissard]

Looks like Latvala found a ditch, suddenly +5.0.

[muscrae]

What the hell is Mikko doing? He is slow without any reason...

[muscrae]

Mikko stopped??

edit: He is moving...

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Pons out..

[dimviii]

Pons out..

Are you sure? splits moving

[JFL]

Who's whining now? After just one rally with some little problems.. What would happen after 4 years+ of that? Just asking you bashers!!

[muscrae]

Facebook News: "I feel an intense pain in my back .shock produced a pain to me much stronger than before." Raikkonen

[Buzz Lightyear]

Facebook News: "I feel an intense pain in my back .shock produced a pain to me much stronger than before." Raikkonen

think this is the beginning of a get-out clause for Kimi...

[Barreis]

He made good only for WRC sport and not for himself..

[JRodrigues]

think this is the beginning of a get-out clause for Kimi...

Kimi doesn't have facebook :vader:

[muscrae]

Kimi doesn't have facebook :vader:

Is this fake, then?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1826655677&ref=ts

[JRodrigues]

Is this fake, then?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1826655677&ref=ts

Of course it is..

[Boudica]

think this is the beginning of a get-out clause for Kimi...

Kimi had laser surgery on his back one week before the rally. Kimi isn't one who complains easily, if he mentions it, it must be quite serious. Luckily there is 4 weeks before the next rally. He has a contract so he isn't just going give up, that is not him.

[Boudica]

Of course it is..

Kimi doesn't have twitter, or facebook.

[dimviii]

Arai rolled but continue

[tmx]

Since the stages are swept now, I wonder if Petter can make up some ground on the reruns.

[JFL]

He will not loose that much now..

[N.O.T]

i am really looking forward to see how Ogier will react....he is doing amazing so far.

[N.O.T]

10 mins until the second loop starts.

[pettersolberg29]

This first stage of the loop will probably decide whether Loeb needs/wants tactics or not.

[N.O.T]

his main rivals are around 1 minute behind so i doubt he will push really hard....Ogier and Solberg are easily controllable by the citroen team.

[pettersolberg29]

Ogier yes. If Solberg can win, I think he will whatever Quesnel says.

[Fide]

Ogier yes. If Solberg can win, I think he will whatever Quesnel says.

Fully agree...

[Tomi]

This first stage of the loop will probably decide whether Loeb needs/wants tactics or not.

tactics for what? The Fords are too much behind, no chanse to win by driving anymore.

[N.O.T]

the stage is on....

[pettersolberg29]

tactics for what? The Fords are too much behind, no chanse to win by driving anymore.

Yeh, but Loeb wants to win. If he's only 17s ahead of Petter by the end of today then he may not win.

[Gard]

This is what happens when you let Henning drive a car which isn't downgraded ;)

Henning has always been good at these kind of stages. So the gap is just less than normal. And when you are on pace, you often can pull out some extra too

[Tomi]

Yeh, but Loeb wants to win. If he's only 17s ahead of Petter by the end of today then he may not win.

lol, Petter drives the same car make, he is nothing to worry about.

[pettersolberg29]

Petter out?

[N.O.T]

after all the blah blah blah about the confidence boost hirvonen had with the 2 wins of the season and the big words from the ford kids it all comes down to rumble....

Hirvonen after all these years has yet to prove that he can lead a team and take risks for the win, when conditions demand to be a man he acts like a scared little kid.....pity that Latvala is on a leash.

[N.O.T]

Solberg 12 seconds faster than the morning run

[Woodeye]

after all the blah blah blah about the confidence boost hirvonen had with the 2 wins of the season and the big words from the ford kids it all comes down to rumble....

Hirvonen after all these years has yet to prove that he can lead a team and take risks for the win, when conditions demand to be a man he acts like a scared little kid.....pity that Latvala is on a leash.

Your analysis must be correct for sure. Kids tend to lose their grip suddely within few weeks. There must be something wrong with the Fords, nothing but Citroens on top. Or how else do you explain Petter, who according to you is no use for nothing, being on the top as well?

[muscrae]

Petter overheating... But ok...

[miksu]

after all the blah blah blah about the confidence boost hirvonen had with the 2 wins of the season and the big words from the ford kids it all comes down to rumble....

Hirvonen after all these years has yet to prove that he can lead a team and take risks for the win, when conditions demand to be a man he acts like a scared little kid.....pity that Latvala is on a leash.

wow, i have to say to my surprise that i totally agree with you

[muscrae]

Ogier passed Petter.

[N.O.T]

Your analysis must be correct for sure. Kids tend to lose their grip suddely within few weeks. There must be something wrong with the Fords, nothing but Citroens on top. Or how else do you explain Petter, who according to you is no use for nothing, being on the top as well?

Solberg indeed did very well....but again the only people who really ridiculed are those little ford kids who are scared of retirement and want to finish rallies in order pappa wilson to sponsor his ueselss son... I never said that solberg wasn;t good for nothing..i just said he cannot win anymore and as years go by he will be worse and worse so its better to step aside. With Sordo in i think solberg would be behind him as well so no big change.

Get your facts straight... i say what i say and i stick to it because its the truth, Solberg had a good run....better than expected but even now he didn;t prove he can challenge for the win.

[muscrae]

Damn, Mikko is still slow...

[N.O.T]

wow, i have to say to my surprise that i totally agree with you

you should not be surprised if you stop listening to finish managers and act like loyal dogs and follow thier words as the holy bible you will see that i very rarely make stupid assumptions. Even when i misjudge some things they are never far away from the truth.

[JRodrigues]

you should not be surprised if you stop listening to finish managers and act like loyal dogs and follow thier words as the holy bible you will see that i very rarely make stupid assumptions. Even when i misjudge some things they are never far away from the truth.

:D :D ALL HAIL N.O.O.T. kid... :D :D

[N.O.T]

:D :D ALL HAIL N.O.O.T. kid... :D :D

i agree with the statement and i approve of your behaviour.

although you should have put those ... after the N.O.O.T and then followed byt the kid....it would be better...maybe.

[N.O.T]

If ford slow Latvala down it will be a suicide for them.

[muscrae]

After the team orders for JML to slow down for Mikko, Can Mikko catch Petter? What do you think?

[dimviii]

lol @Not.

ps1 dont ban him

ps2 Loeb wasn t so flat out at day1 as he was saying.

[Boudica]

you should not be surprised if you stop listening to finish managers and act like loyal dogs and follow thier words as the holy bible you will see that i very rarely make stupid assumptions. Even when i misjudge some things they are never far away from the truth.

Didn't you just say earlier in the day that your assumptions about Block was incorrect?

[pettersolberg29]

After the team orders for JML to slow down for Mikko, Can Mikko catch Petter? What do you think?

Mikko catch Petter!? He's no faster really despite being 6th on the road and Petter sweeping. Petter has been much, much quicker than Mikko in Mexico.

[tolis]

Does anyone know why Block has a penalty of 5:14.3 and both Sordo and Wilson have a penalty of 5:00.0 in SS14???

[miksu]

After the team orders for JML to slow down for Mikko, Can Mikko catch Petter? What do you think?

no way he can catch by driving!

[N.O.T]

Didn't you just say earlier in the day that your assumptions about Block was incorrect?

they were incorrect yes... but not far away from the truth either...still atkinson would be better driving than him.

i expected him to be ridiculed by the PWRC to be honest but i guess all these videos or sideways stunts payed of...

[Woodeye]

you should not be surprised if you stop listening to finish managers and act like loyal dogs and follow thier words as the holy bible you will see that i very rarely make stupid assumptions. Even when i misjudge some things they are never far away from the truth.

finish managers? and who might these be?

[N.O.T]

for mikko to cover 1 minute in 70kms is much.....he will have to push and take risks....good luck with that.

[muscrae]

Yeah, I agree with you all.

[A.F.F.]

finish managers? and who might these be?

How do you dare to question him??!! He got his facts right.

[N.O.T]

finish managers? and who might these be?

I have no idea and don't really care......finish people seem to have all the inside info about their guys....they remind me of those pathetic yes men greek rally drivers have around them to boost their confidence and its sad.

I cannot explain otherwise why you have high hopes for kimi and you think he will improve and go for podiums wins and all that when the 87 year old block spat in his face during the rally with no experiene of a wrc car. Someone feeds those things to you and you eat them without even digesting them.

[Tomi]

I have to say that im quite dissapointed of Mikkos driving, where is the new more agressive approach, he was talking about?
It was not any secret that this rally was Citroens rally, but when the help boy Latvala drives seconds faster on stages, propably without bigger risks, something is not as it should be.

[Sulland]

Latvala ha made his springs harder, and felt that had helped, mikko need to do the same maybe ?

[Mauri A]

I have no idea and don't really care......finish people seem to have all the inside info about their guys....they remind me of those pathetic yes men greek rally drivers have around them to boost their confidence and its sad.

I cannot explain otherwise why you have high hopes for kimi and you think he will improve and go for podiums wins and all that when the 87 year old block spat in his face during the rally with no experiene of a wrc car. Someone feeds those things to you and you eat them without even digesting them.
Honestly, You are the best clown on this forum, do not stop your comments!

[Woodeye]

I have no idea and don't really care......finish people seem to have all the inside info about their guys....they remind me of those pathetic yes men greek rally drivers have around them to boost their confidence and its sad.

I cannot explain otherwise why you have high hopes for kimi and you think he will improve and go for podiums wins and all that when the 87 year old block spat in his face during the rally with no experiene of a wrc car. Someone feeds those things to you and you eat them without even digesting them.

but you said that you speak the truth? come on now, enlight us who dwell in the darkness. who are these finish managers who feed false things to us?

[N.O.T]

as i said i don't know.... i wish i knew so i could laugh at them.

[harriswrc]

Does anyone know why Block has a penalty of 5:14.3 and both Sordo and Wilson have a penalty of 5:00.0 in SS14???Sordo and Wilson are FIA1 drivers so they have the time of the 1st FIA1 driver (Loeb) +5:00.
Block is FIA2 driver (he can't score team points) so he have the time of 1st FIA2 driver (P. Solberg) +5:00.

[Woodeye]

as i said i don't know.... i wish i knew so i could laugh at them.

you are on sad . you make this forum look like a circus with your freakshow.

[N.O.T]

maybe you are right....maybe you don't.

i somekind understand your frustration though ....Loeb took everything from you all these years and you are desperate.... so you see a new hope on every kid nowadays with a good manager and media coverage.

[Woodeye]

maybe you are right....maybe you don't.

i somekind understand your frustration though ....Loeb took everything from you all these years and you are desperate.... so you see a new hope on every kid nowadays with a good manager and media coverage.

Loeb has deserved every single win he has driven. I've always said that it's a joy to watch him drive and if he gets 10 titles it's great. I'm not desperate at all about that. It's your rediculous posts I'm desparate about. This used to be a fun forum to follow rallies live, not anymore so much fun with you being the master of the freak show.

[ttiirika]

maybe you are right....maybe you don't.

i somekind understand your frustration though ....Loeb took everything from you all these years and you are desperate.... so you see a new hope on every kid nowadays with a good manager and media coverage.

Normally I don't want to comment very stupid almost insane posts from someone, who clearly needs help from professional well trained shrinks, but maybe I'm too tired now.

Finnish drivers have won more than 1/3 of all World Championship rallies. Finnish drivers have won 13 World Championship titles. Last year Mikko Hirvonen lost title by one point and he is leading the championship at the moment. So what the hell are you taking about? I think that in Finland they have a thing called tradition in this sport. I think they do know quite much of rallying, maybe even more than you.

[Tomi]

Loeb has deserved every single win he has driven. I've always said that it's a joy to watch him drive and if he gets 10 titles it's great.

Agree 100%.

[RS]

Tension in the Ford team? From Autosport.com:

"Very frustrating. I don't know what is the answer. The Citroen is usually quicker than our car, except for two years ago. I think we were ahead of Citroen at that time, our dampers worked better with the new tyre in 2008, but now it's tough. They have a different engine and gearbox to us, maybe it's that. We don't know."

Team principal Malcolm Wilson pointed to Henning Solberg's performance through the morning - when the Stobart Ford driver was just 3.8 seconds down on rally leader Loeb on SS11 and 4.1s on the following stage - as evidence the car was not the whole problem.

"And don't forget," Wilson said, "Henning is driving a 2008 car. He ran stiffer suspension this morning, that's made a difference, and we're going to fit that to the [factory] cars this afternoon.

"Our boys aren't doing the business here and we haven't recovered the time we lost yesterday. There's no question that it's hard to pick yourself up after a tricky first day, but at the same time I'm surprised at the times Mikko and Jari have set today."

[Ondra WRC]

what happened Kosciuszko? :confused:

[bt52b]

Tension in the Ford team? From Autosport.com:

"Very frustrating. I don't know what is the answer. The Citroen is usually quicker than our car, except for two years ago. I think we were ahead of Citroen at that time, our dampers worked better with the new tyre in 2008, but now it's tough. They have a different engine and gearbox to us, maybe it's that. We don't know."

Team principal Malcolm Wilson pointed to Henning Solberg's performance through the morning - when the Stobart Ford driver was just 3.8 seconds down on rally leader Loeb on SS11 and 4.1s on the following stage - as evidence the car was not the whole problem.

"And don't forget," Wilson said, "Henning is driving a 2008 car. He ran stiffer suspension this morning, that's made a difference, and we're going to fit that to the [factory] cars this afternoon.

"Our boys aren't doing the business here and we haven't recovered the time we lost yesterday. There's no question that it's hard to pick yourself up after a tricky first day, but at the same time I'm surprised at the times Mikko and Jari have set today."

Henning would be further ahead only for the handbrake brake problems, and the brake overheating which he said after SS15 might be due to too much left foot braking.

Ford can't afford to go to sleep on one gravel stage if they are to have any chance this year.

SS15 running

[bretddog]

I'm not desperate at all about that. It's your rediculous posts I'm desparate about. This used to be a fun forum to follow rallies live, not anymore so much fun with you being the master of the freak show.

N.O.T:
I just have to log in to say that I completely agree (Woodeye). It's really sad how this loss of a human (N.O.T) is able to destroy every joy on this forum. Rally is about excitement, about cheering and having fun, about having favorite drivers and want them to do well. What the heck is this attitude of making fun and sarcasm of every driver who is not getting 1st place podiums and all of their forum supporters? I don't care how much rally knowledge you think you have, you are just a sad sad mind.. What did life do to you that gave you this need to push this rotten attitude on to everyone on this forum? Anyone who has lived a little knows that such attitude is just a cry of keeping your own head above water, for lack of other means. And now you are going down the drain too, cause it only lasts for so long..

I don't even care to write on this forum, exactly because of this type of idiot attitude is dominating every thread and opinion that other people bring forward. I don't want to waste my time debating up the asshole of others. And I think quite a few members have this same reason for just staying away. It's a shame, this forum could be so much more without half of the posts being just useless talk from you, or people responding to your tragic words.

[Salist]

WRC 2010 Mexico Rally - Motors TV - 1st LEG in HD...
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[muscrae]

No split for Loeb?

[Viridian Black]

loeb late on splits?

[dimviii]

Loeb is missing from split :confused:

[jonkka]

:eek:

[Micke_VOC]

Loeb has deserved every single win he has driven. I've always said that it's a joy to watch him drive and if he gets 10 titles it's great. I'm not desperate at all about that. It's your rediculous posts I'm desparate about. This used to be a fun forum to follow rallies live, not anymore so much fun with you being the master of the freak show.

Word !!

[dimviii]

2nd split missing...

Henning +4,6 in first split :confused:

[Micke_VOC]

I think loeb will be fastest on the stage, but i cross my fingers that something have happened...

[RS]

If Loeb is out then Petter and Ogier would be free to go for the win!

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb is fine. GPS not working

[muscrae]

Seb is moving...

[jonkka]

Loeb is fine. GPS not working

As always...

[MikeD]

Nothing like a split error on Loeb that can get all the Ford fans out of the caves :D

[dimviii]

Wow more than 15 secs!