Corona Rally Mexico 2010

[Halvis]

Ogier -4.3 to Loeb on this stage - and leading overall - at least until Petter finishes.

[WRC1]

and petter is on again!! i hope he can keep this pace till sunday!

his mechanics should take car of the car, that no citroen laptop boys get theire hands on the machine....

[muscrae]

Petter will have just over 30sec lead going to the first service then... :)

[Tom206wrc]

No split 2 for Räikkönen :confused:

[Mirek]

Everything plays perfect for Citroën, having Petter, Ogier and Sordo infront of Loeb with small margin for tomorrow would be the best for them...

[muscrae]

No split 2 for Räikkönen :confused:

He has stopped... :(

[pettersolberg29]

Block looks good. Faster than Wilson and much better than Kimi (as I believe I predicted)

[miksu]

Block continues to impress me

[pettersolberg29]

Another advantage of Petter's road position is that he can dictate the tactics as he has the last choice - he will know exactly how much he has to lose.

[EavesFan09]

Miko .6 slower than Hennig. :(

Block 14.9 faster than Villarga.

[N.O.T]

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. (st. č. 8) Reported stopped on stage, hit the rock

ok i am getting banned.....

[Mirek]

Brynildsen stopped.

[N.O.T]

Mr Block is doing a very respectable job....my hat is off to him.

[N.O.T]

now that kimmi is off again time to get the lap dog out for the comments....

[Micke_VOC]

impressing split from block and solberg going fast..
second pass of the stages are going to be interesting..

[MikeD]

He might end up with points on his debut if he keeps this level (Block that is)

[N.O.T]

This rally is a disaster for hirvonen....but he will have an amazing road position for tommorow if it stays like that....the disadvatage is that Loeb will also have a good position as well...we have to wait and see.

[JFL]

Block beats Wilson.. ;)

[MikeD]

Block did this stage with the same time at Wilslow ... just say something about what a crap driver Wilson is.

[EavesFan09]

The altitude is apparently causing the pace of many of the cars to suffer but not if the car is French it seems. Only Hennig Solberg's Stobart VKM M-Sport Focus seems to be the one Focus that seems to be handling the altitude well aside from Blocks Focus.

[N.O.T]

Wilson is really a sad situation.....it reminds me of greek drivers...he is a disgrace but the yes men surounding him don;t let him think straight.

[bluuford]

wait the second pass of the stages.. oh damn that bus is shaking so that I have got headache already brrr.. :( Not good to type while traveling by bus.

[amilk]

Block did this stage with the same time at Wilslow ... just say something about what a crap driver Wilson is.

be patient with Wilson pls. .......5 years plan ....no hurry

[N.O.T]

next stage started....

[EavesFan09]

Block beats Wilson.. ;)

Is that so good? To really judge Ken's ability in the WRC should we not be looking to the likes of Solberg and Ogier to compare him against?

[Micke_VOC]

Hirvonen on first spilt SS3....

[WRC1]

block is a real sensation!!!

i never thougt he will be that fast!!!!

in second stage ever in the focus he is faster than the son....i hope this is the final hint for mr slowson to stop his 5 year plan right now.

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Block can maintain that pace?

[amilk]

The altitude is apparently causing the pace of many of the cars to suffer but not if the car is French it seems. Only Hennig Solberg's Stobart VKM M-Sport Focus seems to be the one Focus that seems to be handling the altitude well aside from Blocks Focus.

Agree. The difference to big to say only coming from road position. There is something else. We will see in 2nd run

[N.O.T]

Is that so good? To really judge Ken's ability in the WRC should we not be looking to the likes of Solberg and Ogier to compare him against?

the guy is 76 years old so no...

[EavesFan09]

The start of Cubilete seems to be quite twisty looking at the route on Google Earth. Lot's of turns.

I don't expect the split 1 time to be really fast.

[WRXedUSA]

Keep it going Ken and Alex! Do us good!

Guys, he's even beating the the regular american rallyists expectations!

[Josti]

Is that so good? To really judge Ken's ability in the WRC should we not be looking to the likes of Solberg and Ogier to compare him against?

No, Block is no championship material (nor is that his intention).

He's doing very well at the moment! Wilsons pace is embarrising, but no surprise there.

[Ondra WRC]

what happened Brynildsen?

[bluuford]

the guy is 76 years old so no...
A few hours ago he was only 63?

[Doug Woods]

Before Mexico, Ken Block said that his goals for the rally were to finish and not to embarass himself.

I hope he has chosen a pace which allows him to finish. It seems that he has already achieved the second goal.

[MikeD]

Keep it going Ken and Alex! Do us good!

Guys, he's even beating the the regular american rallyists expectations!

Nice with some americans in here. Welcome on board. (I am old Florida resident myself ... but not anymore)

[N.O.T]

A few hours ago he was only 63?

time goes by very fast these days...

[EavesFan09]

Miko's Split 1 is 1:12.9. I expect the Citroen's to be around 1:09 mark or quicker going on the first two stages.

Miko feels there is nothing else he can do, so I guess no great shame if Miko does not win this stage.

[N.O.T]

I think Hirvonen is slow not only because of the road position....losing almost 1 min in 50 kms is far too much.

[MikeD]

be patient with Wilson pls. .......5 years plan ....no hurry

Except this is his 5th year and he still sucks....

[PeteRobs]

]Brynildsen stopped.


What a shame he is so motivated, he will be a world champion in next 4 years

[bluuford]

time goes by very fast these days...

yeah.. at the beginning of the rally he was only 42. By the end of rally he will be the oldest driver in WRC history for sure:-)

[WRXedUSA]

Nice with some americans in here. Welcome on board. (I am old Florida resident myself ... but not anymore)


I've been on here off and on for years. Originally on the WRC.com forums back in the early years.

I was at 100AcreWood rally last week to see them run, and the spectator turnout was huge. At individual specatator points, rivalling what I've seen on WRC stages in Sweden, Finland and Germany. Thousands in numbers the organizers were estimating.

We are super excited, thanks for allowing us to play in your sport! Cheers for a good rally!

[EavesFan09]

Latvala lost 0.5 secs to Loeb through Split 3 having only been 2.2 slower through Split 2, but gained back 0.2 through Split 4. Did JML suffer problems in the period between split 2 and 3 or was just slower?

[MJW]

It would be great if USA embraced rallying. Big car market = good news for wrc, but please no X games rally stadiums

[jonkka]

Sordo loses some time in the end and drops behind Seb.

[cali]

Keep it going Ken and Alex! Do us good!

Guys, he's even beating the the regular american rallyists expectations!

He is doing well at the moment. Let's hope he will maintain or even increase his speed during the event. And no accidents.

Like I said before, he may surprise us and he is doing just that ... Not bad at all :)

[MikeD]

I've been on here off and on for years. Originally on the WRC.com forums back in the early years.

I was at 100AcreWood rally last week to see them run, and the spectator turnout was huge. At individual specatator points, rivalling what I've seen on WRC stages in Sweden, Finland and Germany. Thousands in numbers the organizers were estimating.

We are super excited, thanks for allowing us to play in your sport! Cheers for a good rally!

Hehe ;) It's not our sport, it's a world championship so it's great with driver from US and exposure into US. It will be a massive boost for the sport if Block can keep this level...

[I am evil Homer]

No, Block is no championship material (nor is that his intention).

He's doing very well at the moment! Wilsons pace is embarrising, but no surprise there.

I like Block...he's a realist and knows he can't compete with the major guys but says he's there "to learn". Well so far I'd say job done and congratualtions. He's holding his own right now.

[EavesFan09]

Sordo loses some time in the end and drops behind Seb.

Was getting slower and slower through the whole stage.

I am one very nervous Ford fan like. If a driver is faster than Sordo by just over 2 seconds he should be faster than Latvala and relegate him down to 3rd. Latvala is 0.8 faster than Sordo. If my maths is correct I assume if the time is around 2 secs faster he should beat Latvalas.

[Tom206wrc]

And Solberg keeps on attacking :cool:

Ogier best time again so far ;)

[N.O.T]

hmmm this move by sordo sure tells some things about his status in the team.....

[EavesFan09]

And Solberg keeps on attacking :cool:

Ogier best time again so far ;)

Fastest of all through all splits! :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

Solberg -10" from Hirvo with one split left to go :D

[Tom206wrc]

hmmm this move by sordo sure tells some things about his status in the team.....


A bit too early, no ???? :rolleyes:

[WRXedUSA]

When Solberg gets in "kill mode" he's pretty unstoppable. Keep in going!

KB-AG's SS3 splits are starting off well!

[lcd]

It's good to see a driver known for stunts, huge jumps and stuff like that
to unfold his rally spirit! Nice start from Block! Really Impressed!
Hope the Gods of rally be at Petter's side for this round! :D

[pettersolberg29]

Early prediction - Ogier first on the road tomorrow, Sordo 2nd, Loeb 3rd, Petter 4th

[N.O.T]

something has to change about road position.... its getting annoying and it really destroys the sport. Solbergs times are amazing but who can give him credit when he wins that much due to road conditions ???

[JRodrigues]

something has to change about road position.... its getting annoying and it really destroys the sport. Solbergs times are amazing but who can give him credit when he wins that much due to road conditions ???

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't i always like that?! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Sulland]

something has to change about road position.... its getting annoying and it really destroys the sport. Solbergs times are amazing but who can give him credit when he wins that much due to road conditions ???

Lets see on the 2nd loop of the stages.

[Gard]

something has to change about road position.... its getting annoying and it really destroys the sport. Solbergs times are amazing but who can give him credit when he wins that much due to road conditions ???

Sure, but we'll se on the repeat stages. This is sure good for Petters "mojo".

Citroen wouldn't mind Petter and Ogier in front for tomorrow

[N.O.T]

HIRVONEN M. / LEHTINEN J. "Driving is OK, but it's so much loose. I tried to push on SS2, but we had massive moment."

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "Plan is to continue like I do. I'm trying my best. Everything is OK."

LATVALA J.-M. / ANTTILA M. "Second and third stage I've been driving definitely better. But Citroens doing really well."

SORDO D. / MARTÍ M. "I lose lot time at the end now. Loose gravel, very slippery. Difficult for braking. But it's OK, at the moment everything right."

OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. "Good start. We have good drive this morning. But now my rear was sliding at the end of stage, maybe I have puncture."

SOLBERG P. / MILLS P. "It's very good. It's cleaner, but on some parts you can't go faster. Feeling is comfortable, but still is there somethink to improve."

BLOCK K. / GELSOMINO A. "Second one was pretty good too, but this was so loose. I was really carefull. My goal is to finish."

[N.O.T]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't i always like that?! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

you are wrong.....but ok i forgive you i have a big heart

a few years ago when you were watching drift kids racing and probably the oversized Kart championship with Kiimi kid there was a rule that the starting order was reverse for days 2-3...

you are welcome...no need to thank me.

[RS]

something has to change about road position.... its getting annoying and it really destroys the sport. Solbergs times are amazing but who can give him credit when he wins that much due to road conditions ???

:up: Something to add to Todt's "to do" list.

[N.O.T]

Sure, but we'll se on the repeat stages. This is sure good for Petters "mojo".

Citroen wouldn't mind Petter and Ogier in front for tomorrow

the repeated stages won;t matter much since everybody would like to be a low as possible..

[MikeD]

Has Block ever done tarmac rallies? - and will he do one in the WRC this year?

[cut the b.s.]

you are wrong.....but ok i forgive you i have a big heart

a few years ago when you were watching drift kids racing and probably the oversized Kart championship with Kiimi kid there was a rule that the starting order was reverse for days 2-3...

you are welcome...no need to thank me.

and before that when you were a little kid down at the beach building castles and getting sunstroke the fastest ran 1st on the road

[N.O.T]

and before that when you were a little kid down at the beach building castles and getting sunstroke

aaaaah the memories.....

[Huima]

loose fuel pump connection caused kimi´s stop

[JRodrigues]

you are wrong.....but ok i forgive you i have a big heart

a few years ago when you were watching drift kids racing and probably the oversized Kart championship with Kiimi kid there was a rule that the starting order was reverse for days 2-3...

you are welcome...no need to thank me.


So, how was it before?! The organizations layed down rocks and sand everytime a car passed?!

[N.O.T]

hey look what i found....

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. "We hit the rock and bent the steering. We fix it on the road section, but loose connection rod and also fuel pump connection on stage two."

[Rallyper]

Kimi faster than Henning and Malcolm and talking as well after the stage!!! :) :) :)

[pavlos_a]

loose fuel pump connection caused kimi´s stop

KIMI 12:03!!!!!

[N.O.T]

So, how was it before?! The organizations layed down rocks and sand everytime a car passed?!

which part of the " the the starting order was reverse for days 2-3" didn;t you understand ???

[JRodrigues]

aaaaah the memories.....

You can cry a little more. Kimi was faster than Henning, Matt Wilooser and Kenny from the Block.

[Sulland]

NOT: Are you Greek, your english is very good.

But your occupation/education can point towards education in a englishspeaking country.

Just wondered...

[pavlos_a]

You can cry a little more. Kimi was faster than Henning, Matt Wilooser and Kenny from the Block.

Kimi was fast, but he started the stage very late, so he had a very clean road....

[N.O.T]

NOT: Are you Greek, your english is very good.

But your occupation/education can point towards education in a englishspeaking country.

Just wondered...

We have a winner !!!! here is your prize

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_njaM6TM3RbQ/Sbj2D1ZGraI/AAAAAAAAAIE/7Ql6Zz2MZV8/s400/Potato.jpg

[WRXedUSA]

Has Block ever done tarmac rallies? - and will he do one in the WRC this year?

WRC Germany. Not sure if the new French rally is paved.

The only sealed surface I can recall in competition is Brockway Mountain at Lake Superior Pro Rally and the SSS at Oregon Trail in Portland. He has track experience in a 4wd car (One Lap of America STI) plus all his Gymkhana and AutoX stuff.

[JRodrigues]

which part of the " the the starting order was reverse for days 2-3" didn;t you understand ???

What part?


something has to change about road position.... its getting annoying and it really destroys the sport. Solbergs times are amazing but who can give him credit when he wins that much due to road conditions ???

So Petter is winning on the 1st day, and you're talking about 2nd and 3rd day?!

[CABAIO E'LONA]

:D

[N.O.T]

What part?



So Petter is winning on the 1st day, and you're talking about 2nd and 3rd day?!

yes because with the old system Peter would start 15th on day 2....get it now ???

[N.O.T]

the pepsi cola stages started....

[JRodrigues]

yes because with the old system Peter would start 15th on day 2....get it now ???

Yes, I get it. I always got it. But.. you were talking about Petter winning stages on day1. Where is your logic?!

[Boudica]

Kimi faster than Henning and Malcolm and talking as well after the stage!!! :) :) :)

It is a shame Kimi had such bad luck already on the second stage. He often had bad luck in F1, and it seems like the tradition is continuing.

[JFL]

Has Block ever done tarmac rallies? - and will he do one in the WRC this year?
No

[N.O.T]

Yes, I get it. I always got it. But.. you were talking about Petter winning stages on day1. Where is your logic?!

the logic is that with this system solberg will be punished on day days 2-3 while with the old one he would start on the same playiong field with the others and thus you could give him credit for his performance at the end if he had the pace. now he will start the rally sweeping the road and we cannot have a clear picture of his performance.

ok...

[pavlos_a]

It is a shame Kimi had such bad luck already on the second stage. He often had bad luck in F1, and it seems like the tradition is continuing.

Lets see his time in the first "tarmac" stage....

[bennizw]

I still can´t see why the FIA have changed the running order rule for day 2 and 3, it´s stupid. Bring back the rules from 2001, where the top 16 could choose their start position for the next day.

[lcd]

the pepsi cola stages started....

:D N.O.T. απόψε είσαι σε μεγάλα κέφια ε;
(= You're In a pretty good mood tonight, aren't you? )

[mdesign]

The old rules weren't perfect either. If they applied today, Mikko would still lose a minute and half to solberg, and Petter would have a better road position all weekend. Is that fair to the championship leader?

[Sulland]

If Petter can take the win, I bet you that he will grab it in front of Loeb !
He will not play the tactics !

[Barreis]

Maybe this's not good choice for The Ice Man..

[pettersolberg29]

mdesign - at least it makes the whole thing equal. A bit like reverse order grids in Touring Cars.

[dimviii]

you are wrong.....but ok i forgive you i have a big heart

you are welcome...no need to thank me.

lol :D
Best post by far till now.

I am very curious to see Petters pace vs others in second loop.
Blocks speed is impressive for his age and his first km in stages.
Agree with Mirek about Armindos pace> turbo/high attitude.

[N.O.T]

The old rules weren't perfect either. If they applied today, Mikko would still lose a minute and half to solberg, and Petter would have a better road position all weekend. Is that fair to the championship leader?

yes, but he would have 2 days to fix things and it would still be a 3 day rally not a 1 day one.

[mdesign]

mdesign - at least it makes the whole thing equal. A bit like reverse order grids in Touring Cars.
More interesting yes, more equal not sure. But my statement is that the old systems was not perfect, even if he might be better than the current.

[pettersolberg29]

Yeah - I do agree with that.

[janvanvurpa]

damn, Block made it thru the first and even the second SS without flipping!
That's a big achievement right there....He's maturing...

But I can't wait to see the screaming and cheerleading for him 'doing such "amazing" results in a field of 32 mostly normal aspirated fwd cars.

Lafeyette nous som arrivé!

[Boudica]

Kimi 4th on the tarmac stage. :D

[Pete Kuncis]

Has Block ever done tarmac rallies? - and will he do one in the WRC this year?

Yes, Block has competed in the tarmac Rally New York events for the past 2 years. Full tarmac event run in the spring.

http://www.onalimbracing.com/photos/2009_Rally_New_York_USA/IMG_1606.jpg

[Doug Woods]

Has Block ever done tarmac rallies? - and will he do one in the WRC this year?

Yes and yes.

He has won the Rally New York the past two years which is an all tarmac rally.

He will be doing Germany, France and Spain this year.

[JRodrigues]

Kimi 4th on the tarmac stage. :D

Oh no.. N.O.O.T. is going to kill himself..

[Mirek]

No, he won't do that for that pepsi thing ;)

[N.O.T]

some people considering 1.6 kms..... as stages.....some don;t....

[PuroMotor]

CLICK FOR PICTURES

http://www.revistapuromotor.com/galeria/albums/2010/rallywrcmexico2010/2jueves/rallymexicojueves004.jpg

http://www.revistapuromotor.com/galeria/albums/2010/rallywrcmexico2010/2jueves/rallymexicojueves018.jpg (http://www.revistapuromotor.com/galeria/thumbnails.php?album=350)

[Doug Woods]

damn, Block made it thru the first and even the second SS without flipping!
That's a big achievement right there....He's maturing...

But I can't wait to see the screaming and cheerleading for him 'doing such "amazing" results in a field of 32 mostly normal aspirated fwd cars.

Lafeyette nous som arrivé!

Jeez John, if you are going to continue your five year long internet bashing of Ken Block, at least get your facts straight.

There are 30 cars and only 3 of them are fwd cars.

At least most of the European posters here on the forum are giving Ken credit for his performance in the rally.

[MikeD]

Yes and yes.

He has won the Rally New York the past two years which is an all tarmac rally.

He will be doing Germany, France and Spain this year.

Ok, I thought he would only do 4 rallies this year ... or is it because those are the 3 other ones he will do beside Mexico?

[N.O.T]

stage 5 is on ..... Hirvonen is matching the times solberg did on the morning run....

[dimviii]

how much time for the next ss?

edit thanks Kimi errrrrr Not.

[N.O.T]

Jeez John, if you are going to continue your five year long internet bashing of Ken Block, at least get your facts straight.

There are 30 cars and only 3 of them are fwd cars.

At least most of the European posters here on the forum are giving Ken credit for his performance in the rally.

me included and since i am the leader of the europeasants that means a lot....

[jonkka]

Mikko losing still more time -- it's not any more level 2nd time around...

[pettersolberg29]

Mikko still slower than Petter was this morning. Mikko is 8.40.6 at split 4, Petter was 8.37

[N.O.T]

hmmm.... indeed and he is losing a lot as well.....or Loeb is really pushing....we have to wait.

[N.O.T]

Maybe hirvonen doesn;t want to risk and play it safe....then he attacks tommorow...

[dimviii]

Nice photos Puromotor!! :)

[N.O.T]

HIRVONEN M. / LEHTINEN J. "It's clean. Grip is consistent. But not going well, still losing a lot. I try to push harder."

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "It was very good. I was flat out all the stage. Really good drive. I'm happy with my stage."

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen was slower than SOlbergs morning time....Loeb was faster.

[N.O.T]

Sordo is becoming a threat to Hirvonen as well....

[janvanvurpa]

Jeez John, if you are going to continue your five year long internet bashing of Ken Block, at least get your facts straight.

There are 30 cars and only 3 of them are fwd cars.

At least most of the European posters here on the forum are giving Ken credit for his performance in the rally.

Come on Doug I said he's doing amazing.
A lot better than many of his highly touted adventures like 47 seconds with his $150,000 MkII Escort before stuffing it...8)

[N.O.T]

Loeb 9.8 seconds faster on this one....

[EavesFan09]

Why can the Focus not be on the same pace as the C4? Miko lost near enough 4 secs between split points 3 & 4 to Loeb. It was 3.3 secs slow at point 3 and it grew to be 7.4 at point 4. On virtually every split point the time tumbles to Citroen drivers. Of course H. Solberg being the only exception.

[Psycho!]

It's tactics from Fords or C4's engine is so much stronger???Because Ogier is flying as well...

[dimviii]

Petter ultra fast at 2nd split!!

[nr7wave]

Petter is going fast. 2,5 up on second split.

[Fide]

Petter Flying Split 2 better than the rest

[N.O.T]

SORDO D. / MARTÍ M. (st. č. 2) "Quite good. Now we had more grip. The road position will be important for tomorrow, but I will try continue like this."

[N.O.T]

OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. (st. č. 7) "Feeling of the car is perfect. We continue try to push."

[Micke_VOC]

really fun that Petter going so fast...

[Psycho!]

Petter goes for a great time again...!Fastest on the third split...!

[dimviii]

-7,9 for Petter!!

[nr7wave]

11,3 up on the last split for Petter. It's really surprising that Miko is so slow. Even Henning seems to be quicker.

[Viking]

Petter vs

LOEB S. "It was very good. I was flat out all the stage. Really good drive. I'm happy with my stage."

1-0 Melikes :)

[N.O.T]

Ogier faster than Loeb.....

[N.O.T]

SOLBERG P. / MILLS P. (st. č. 11) "It's very good. We lost actually 4-5 seconds, we went off a litle bit."

[Fide]

The track is currently swept and Solberg won another SS !!!!

[N.O.T]

the thing is....does Loeb want to win these ss ?

[Finni2]

The track is currently swept and Solberg won another SS !!!!

I believe there is still slight effect by road-position considering how fast Sordo and Ogier are also compared to Mikko and Seb. But in any case great time by Petter. Where are the bashers?

[John V]

SOLBERG P. / MILLS P. (st. č. 11) "It's very good. We lost actually 4-5 seconds, we went off a litle bit."

Is it not easier to post this link? ;)
http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=14

[N.O.T]

Loeb certainly wats at least 2 cars infront tommorow so i doubt he will push...same goes for mikko. Tommorow is a long day.

[Psycho!]

The cleaning effect maybe affects the second pass as well...Imagine what will happen tomorrow with twistier and looser roads,according to the drivers.....

[N.O.T]

Is it not easier to post this link? ;)
http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=14

I think most people use WRC for splits thats why i post only the comments.

Most people know the fantastic Job rally.cz and Pluto do :)

[dimviii]

Block again faster than Villagra

[Fide]

the thing is....does Loeb want to win these ss ?

Loeb mentioned he went flat out..... don't know if he was lying.... I trend to believe him

[Finni2]

when is Räikkönen supposed to driving?

[N.O.T]

Loeb mentioned he went flat out..... don't know if he was lying.... I trend to believe him

then ogier is faster on gravel than Loeb...right ?

[Fide]

then ogier is faster on gravel than Loeb...right ?

:)

[N.O.T]

Rakkonen is flying after the long tarmac stage...

[Sulland]

really fun that Petter going so fast...

Yes, and pls get a swedish fund raising concert or something to get PG into Petters team !

Both Sweden and he deserves it !

[dimviii]

Block in ss1 Alfaro1 lost to winner 37,6 and from Wilson 8,3 sec
in ss5 Alfaro2 lost to winner 28,5 and from Wilson 0,1 sec.

Impressive so far even i hate his caps! lol.

[pettersolberg29]

What lead would Petter need for tomorrow? Say he leads by 30s from Loeb, then by tomorrow eveing he'll be about +30s behind Loeb. This leaves him 30s to catch up on Sunday. Possible?
Good news for Mikko is that he's so far behind that he doesn't need to play tactics!

[Finni2]

It's interesting to see how tactics will pan out.

[Barreis]

Loeb has to finish..

[Micke_VOC]

Yes, and pls get a swedish fund raising concert or something to get PG into Petters team !

Both Sweden and he deserves it !

i agree 100%

[ZequeArgentina]

In Swrc, Fiesta look really well, gravel rally, not specially smooth as it look in photos, an all Fiestas running great and with goodtimes.

I did not ranked Kociusko that high, but him + pons + prokop all doing very well!

I expected a little more from Nasser and the Skoda.

[John V]

I think most people use WRC for splits thats why i post only the comments.

Most people know the fantastic Job rally.cz and Pluto do :)
If I will find Pluto today, I don't know what happens then ... :vader: Don't speak about him today pls.

[Mirek]

I expected a little more from Nasser and the Skoda.

Nasser was strugling a lot with settings. He didn't feel comfortable in the car.

[RS]

In Swrc, Fiesta look really well, gravel rally, not specially smooth as it look in photos, an all Fiestas running great and with goodtimes.

I did not ranked Kociusko that high, but him + pons + prokop all doing very well!

I expected a little more from Nasser and the Skoda.

I expected more from Nasser too, but I am not that surprised by the Pole :)

Anyone know what happened to Brynildsen?

[noel157]

Have been following Brazil today and great to see Petter doing well. Tomorrow road sweeper may make a difference or tactics.
How is Mr NOT feeling with Petter in P1

[N.O.T]

the real rally starts tommorow so we will see and judge then...

[jonkka]

Yeah

[Tom206wrc]

SS6 on the way :cool:

[Francis44]

Perhaps Mikko's car has some kind of problem, Loeb already 2.8 seconds faster on the second parcial.

[Tom206wrc]

Nooooooo !!!! Loeb 14" faster than Hirvo ???? :eek: :confused:

[ridder]

Yeah so now everything is tactics? The whole 5 stages I guess?

Seriously as much as it was clear that Petter was really slow in Sweden it's obvious he's really fast here. I can't see how running 8th or 5th on the road after 30 cars were trough in the first run makes a difference. Also Ogier is beating Sordo in every stage first time he's in Mexico in WRC car and only second time he drives there.

Petter and Ogier = great so far.
Loeb = also great considering that he's 2nd on the road
Sordo = as expected
Fords = fail, due to engine?

Tactics will play a big role yes, we'll see how it turns out. I'd say citroen will "sacrifice" Ogier and maybe Sordo. The good thing for Petter is that if he's last on the stage he can get info about others and decide how much he wants to slow down.

[MikeD]

Tactics will play a big role yes, we'll see how it turns out. I'd say citroen will "sacrifice" Ogier and maybe Sordo. The good thing for Petter is that if he's last on the stage he can get info how much he wants to slow down.

I think Citroën will try and get a 1-2-3 on this rally. Road sweaping or not, they just look as if they got the car for this one, and it's a great opportunity to get a good gap to Ford in both championships.

[Tom206wrc]

Splits don't work at all for that SS6 ;(

[Doon]

God, why are the Fords of Mikko and Jari so slow? Have Ford done something to help with the altitude, possibly turbo, and got it really wrong?!

Really impressed with Kenny from the Block..... Top marks he's really performing way above expectation!

Hope Petter can keep up the pace, I think its a mental thing sometimes with him...if he starts well, he usually finishes well.....but a slow start for him usually mean no pace throughout or a crash.

[Rallyper]

At first - great performance of Petter. Very nice done. And even at the second loop he´s fastest.

Mikko is suffering from starting first and then it´s about selfconfidence and what´s in the back of his mind.

But the Fords are not doing well so far. Let´s see tomorrow.

BTW I think Kimi and KB is surprisingly fast. Especially KB.

[jonkka]

Mikko wants to drop behind Henning. I think it's all quite intentional.

[MikeD]

Mikko wants to drop behind Henning. I think it's all quite intentional.

Jep, and Loeb will drop behind PSolberg, Sordo and Ogier for tomorrow - and then Hirvonen has more than a minute up to Loeb.

[Gard]

Mikko wants to drop behind Henning. I think it's all quite intentional.

No way, Mikko is loosing way to much.

[Mirek]

Also think that it's too much. Also the difference between being first and being second can't give Loeb that huge advantage.

[pettersolberg29]

Is the difference between being 6th or 7th on the road worth losing all that time for? Maybe from 1st to 2nd, but he's got a good position whatever happens now.

[pettersolberg29]

So Petter wins again. 30s ahead of Loeb - not enough in my opinion. Tactics are needed Petter!

[jonkka]

We will see.

[Gard]

So Petter wins again. 30s ahead of Loeb - not enough in my opinion. Tactics are needed Petter!

No, I think he should go for it. He will also help the other Citroen boys this way. And if he can't win, try to get between Loeb and Mikko

[Tom206wrc]

In about five minutes SS7 is on the way :cool:

[N.O.T]

can Hirvonen cover 1:30 secs on 70 kms ??? ...... hmmmm

[pettersolberg29]

No, I think he should go for it. He will also help the other Citroen boys this way. And if he can't win, try to get between Loeb and Mikko

I suppose the hope is that Loeb tries tactics and so loses more time to Petter who charges through?

[dimviii]

Tommorow we have 159ss km instead of todays 137 km
Sunday has 58 ss km

[Glee]

Standing after shakedown and SS 6:

Petter, Citroën 1/1
Sordo, Citroën 2/2
Ogier, Citroën 3/4
Loeb, Citroën 4/3
Räikkönen, Citroën 5/-
Hirvonen, Ford 6/6
Henning, Ford 7/7
Villagra, Ford 8/9
Wilson, Ford 9/8
Latvala, Ford 10/4

[dimviii]

what happened to Block at last stage? :confused:

[tolis]

N.O.T., what happened to Mr Block?

[Micke_VOC]

What happened to block on SS6 ??

[Mirek]

Maybe he did some stunts :)

[MikeD]

Normally I really don't like tactics but I have to admit it's a little interesting this time...

[Tom206wrc]

Loeb and Hirvonen egual time on split one... ;)

[dimviii]

]Maybe he did some stunts :)
lol :D

[Finni2]

Mikko wants to drop behind Henning. I think it's all quite intentional.

Is the road-position change from sixth to seventh worth of 20 seconds?

[Doon]

]Maybe he did some stunts :)

Man thats the funniest thing anyone has ever posted!!!! P*ssing myself!

Seriously though, hope he hasn't lost much time he was doing really well

[Finni2]

I suppose the hope is that Loeb tries tactics and so loses more time to Petter who charges through?

Loeb is not gonna drop behind Mikko, trust me.

But its interesting what other Citroens do in respect of Loeb. I believe Petter will drop himself behind Loeb but don't know about Ogier or if Loeb could drop himself behind Sordo.

[WRXedUSA]

Curious about Block's time lost. Must have been a spin. Good first outing though!

Great job Petter. Should be a good day for rally tomorrow

[MikeD]

Loeb is not gonna drop behind Mikko, trust me.

Denied! Loeb went flat out...

[jonkka]

There it is - almost exactly one minute.

[muscrae]

I think Ogier closed GPS... Tactics?

[N.O.T]

wow...Hirvonen lost the rally....from whom is yet to be seen though.

[dimviii]

Loeb is not gonna drop behind Mikko, trust me.

But its interesting what other Citroens do in respect of Loeb. I believe Petter will drop himself behind Loeb but don't know about Ogier or if Loeb could drop himself behind Sordo.
Whatever is going to happen has to be in this ss.

[ridder]

Smells a bit like Ogier "loosing" splits on purpose tbh.

[Sulland]

I think Ogier closed GPS... Tactics?

Maybe, not sure how easy that is to do ?

[Mirek]

He didn't have splits already on several stages before.

[muscrae]

Okey, I did not know that...

[jonkka]

Interesting - Sordo stayed behind Loeb in overall classification? :eek:

[Doon]

wow...Hirvonen lost the rally....from whom is yet to be seen though.

I agree, he is way too far behind Loeb over 1 min already! This rally is Loeb's, possibly Sordo has a shot, even Petter if he plays tactics right....but i dont think he'll back off in SS7 and will be sweeping tomo.

[N.O.T]

yes as i said...seems like his status in the team changed...

[muscrae]

Ogier is quickest!!!!

[Mirek]

Where is Kosciuszko? He is missing on SS6 and I haven't realized that...

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier fastest again...until Petter comes :p :

[pettersolberg29]

Petter should drop to +25s to Ogier i.e. 4th on the road.

[Tom206wrc]

Henning didn't pass Hirvonen :eek:

[dimviii]

An other interesting is that, while Mikko loses massive time, he haven t make a comment about tyres/suspension set-up etc.
Seems about tactics but the gap is too big with Seb.

[jonkka]

So, I was wrong about Mikko+Henning. Let's see if I'm wrong about the rest as well.

[N.O.T]

i predict a 1-2-3 for the citroen team if everything is decided by driving....

[pettersolberg29]

i predict a 1-2-3 for the citroen team if everything is decided by driving....

I predict a 1-2-3-4 if its driving only.

[MikeD]

There is no way Hirvonen can close 1 min. on Loeb...Ford just didn't have the car for this rally ... for some weird reason.
I am still putting my money on a Citroën 1-2-3 in this rally.

[muscrae]

No tactics at all !!!!

Petter: "I could not risk it to play tactics... I'm happy to be first on the road tomorrow... Just flat-out..."

Crazy guy :)

[Doon]

I agree, he is way too far behind Loeb over 1 min already! This rally is Loeb's, possibly Sordo has a shot, even Petter if he plays tactics right....but i dont think he'll back off in SS7 and will be sweeping tomo.

...told you, Petter sweeps tomo ;)

[jonkka]

I am not betting anything but I'd remind you that last time Mikko finished lower than 3rd was GB 2008.

[Tom206wrc]

Go Petter :bounce:

[N.O.T]

I am not betting anything but I'd remind you that last time Mikko finished lower than 3rd was GB 2008.

hmmm only if latavla allows him he will be 3rd otherwise 4th...again i doubt all of the citroen will finish without mistakes or problems so we will have to wait.

[Mirek]

...told you, Petter sweeps tomo ;)

I can also imagine how valuable for privateer is to lead the rally overnight - for sponsorship especially. Might have had been another reason not to drop possition.

[dimviii]

So gap between Seb and Petter is 28,6 sec.
28.6/157 ss km = 0,18 sec/km needs Seb to catch Petter.
Think is not difficult for him.

[Sulland]

About time someone went out from the front and stopped this stupid tactics play. But of course it should have been FIA, but they dont do much, do they ?

[N.O.T]

About time someone went out from the front and stopped this stupid tactics play. But of course it should have been FIA, but they dont do much, do they ?

Loeb also went for this strategy and won rallies as well the previous years.

[Ondra WRC]

what happened Kosciuszko?

[Comal]

Only really 76km to make up that time tomorrow and then Sunday, as afternoon are repeats so already swept!

[Doon]

]I can also imagine how valuable for privateer is to lead the rally overnight - for sponsorship especially. Might have had been another reason not to drop possition.

But a gamble for a win is worth far more, and at this stage of his career Petter has to take a gamble!

[Tomi]

]I can also imagine how valuable for privateer is to lead the rally overnight - for sponsorship especially. Might have had been another reason not to drop possition.

Valuable sure, and this i belive goes just like Citroen planned, only Citroens in front of Loeb, Mikko will have a hard day tomorrow if he want to get on the podium on sunday, but there is as expected no chance to win.

[alterdaxter]

what happened Kosciuszko?

M. Kosciuszko had a broken alternator belt on ss6.

E. Brynildsen had an off on ss2 and damaged the rear suspension.


I think both will go for superrally...

[John V]

Kosciuszko broken alternator belt according info we got from Mexico, pity.

[vkangas]

Kimi is flying!

[pettersolberg29]

So gap between Seb and Petter is 28,6 sec.
28.6/157 ss km = 0,18 sec/km needs Seb to catch Petter.
Think is not difficult for him.

Yeah, but by this time tomorrow, Petter may be about 30s behind Loeb going into the last dayand have a good road position. I think Petter needs to be within 20s of lead tomorrow evening to win.

[N.O.T]

Kimi is flying!

lol...

[bluuford]

Kimi is flying!

seems like he flew away:-P

[N.O.T]

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. Reported stopped in stage

from rally.cz

lol....flying indeed...

[Viking]

Yeah, but by this time tomorrow, Petter may be about 30s behind Loeb going into the last dayand have a good road position. I think Petter needs to be within 20s of lead tomorrow evening to win.

And there is also as always (in Mexico) a chance for cancelations of stages… We will see...

[JRodrigues]

RÄIKKÖNEN K. / LINDSTRÖM K. Reported stopped in stage

from rally.cz

lol....flying indeed...

First orgasm of the day for N.O.O.T.!!! :D

[Tomi]

And there is also as always (in Mexico) a chance for cancelations of stages… We will see...

Huh, are you really that desperate.

[bluuford]

SS 20 is already canceled for Sunday, so tomorrow important day

[N.O.T]

rolled ... crew ok

[Tom206wrc]

SSS start soon ;)

[Viking]

Huh, are you really that desperate.

Well it is longer since Petter was in a chance for a win than Finland had their last gold medal in the winter Olympics, so....

[ridder]

Well it's always better to be 30 seconds ahead than being "sure" that you will get xx seconds from road position. There can be dust from first car(s) if there's no wind, canceled stages, rain? etc. Sure if the difference was 10 seconds within top 3 you can rely on getting it back, but now the differences are rather big. So I guess it was a better decision for just about all the drivers not to drop behind anyone.

As for Petter if he say looses 1 min to Loeb by the end of saturday he's only 30 seconds back and has the road position advantage back on sunday. So unless he looses more than that, I'd say the rally will be open all the way to the end.

[N.O.T]

ok so who is the biggest loser between the Norsk countries ?

you boys figure it out i want to know.....

[Wim_Impreza]

The last real Winter Olympics were in 2006. This year it was on some days +15 degrees. Even in Belgium there was more snow then in Vancouver.

[N.O.T]

we came last in the winter olympics...

[dimviii]

rolled ... crew ok

just this? without a comment? :bigcry:

[Tomi]

Well it is longer since Petter was in a chance for a win than Finland had their last gold medal in the winter Olympics, so....

He has a chance everytime he start to a new rally, and who cares about the winter olympics.