Corona Rally Mexico 2010

[MikeD]

...maybe he was so fast the splits couldn't keep up :D 19.3 sec faster that Ogier.... :eek:

[Viridian Black]

more like solberg fans :)

[jonkka]

Harder suspension working better or not but Fords seem to go a bit better now...

[muscrae]

It seems like Loeb secures the victory at this stage with excellent performance.

[Mirek]

Ogier will definitelly stay behind Petter today to have advantage for tomorrow.

[Viridian Black]

link for gps? :)

[bt52b]

N.O.T:
I just have to log in to say that I completely agree (Woodeye). It's really sad how this loss of a human (N.O.T) is able to destroy every joy on this forum. Rally is about excitement, about cheering and having fun, about having favorite drivers and want them to do well. What the heck is this attitude of making fun and sarcasm of every driver who is not getting 1st place podiums and all of their forum supporters? I don't care how much rally knowledge you think you have, you are just a sad sad mind.. What did life do to you that gave you this need to push this rotten attitude on to everyone on this forum? Anyone who has lived a little knows that such attitude is just a cry of keeping your own head above water, for lack of other means. And now you are going down the drain too, cause it only lasts for so long..

I don't even care to write on this forum, exactly because of this type of idiot attitude is dominating every thread and opinion that other people bring forward. I don't want to waste my time debating up the asshole of others. And I think quite a few members have this same reason for just staying away. It's a shame, this forum could be so much more without half of the posts being just useless talk from you, or people responding to your tragic words.

If someone really annoys you, add them to your ignore list and hope someone else doesn't quote them.

[shakey]

maybe you are right....maybe you don't.

i somekind understand your frustration though ....Loeb took everything from you all these years and you are desperate.... so you see a new hope on every kid nowadays with a good manager and media coverage.



All this negative crap scared me away.

Thats why i just read this forum. I still love wrc

Why not make some makebelive - manager take a wacation.

I'm getting tierd reading trash.

[Boudica]

I have no idea and don't really care......finish people seem to have all the inside info about their guys....they remind me of those pathetic yes men greek rally drivers have around them to boost their confidence and its sad.

I cannot explain otherwise why you have high hopes for kimi and you think he will improve and go for podiums wins and all that when the 87 year old block spat in his face during the rally with no experiene of a wrc car. Someone feeds those things to you and you eat them without even digesting them.

Kimi did crash out, which isn't good, but he was going faster then Block and Wilson. Of course Block was also doing very well.

[Boudica]

link for gps? :)

+1

That would be nice, is there something like that around?

[pettersolberg29]

Block was going much better than Kimi. He looks like a more complete rally driver. Kimi looks like a jumped-up F1 driver thinking he's good enough when he isn't.

[MikeD]

Block was going much better than Kimi. He looks like a more complete rally driver. Kimi looks like a jumped-up F1 driver thinking he's good enough when he isn't.

+1

[Sulland]

Who will be 3rd on the road tomorrow ?
Tactics today ?

[Tomi]

Who will be 3rd on the road tomorrow ?
Tactics today ?

Hopefully Ogier, he really is an amazing driver, hopefully he gets a good result from Mexico.

[Langdale Forest]

I am suprised that Ogier is is in 3rd place, should be a good battle tomorrow.

[dimviii]

wtf? Mikko slower again

[bt52b]

what happened Kosciuszko? :confused:

What ever happened he had ot Super Rally for tomorrow after SS15

Michal KOSCIUSZKO

3:48:39.0
+2:41.0
+42:14.2

[Buzz Lightyear]

Tension in the Ford team? From Autosport.com:

"Very frustrating. I don't know what is the answer. The Citroen is usually quicker than our car, except for two years ago. I think we were ahead of Citroen at that time, our dampers worked better with the new tyre in 2008, but now it's tough. They have a different engine and gearbox to us, maybe it's that. We don't know."

Team principal Malcolm Wilson pointed to Henning Solberg's performance through the morning - when the Stobart Ford driver was just 3.8 seconds down on rally leader Loeb on SS11 and 4.1s on the following stage - as evidence the car was not the whole problem.

"And don't forget," Wilson said, "Henning is driving a 2008 car. He ran stiffer suspension this morning, that's made a difference, and we're going to fit that to the [factory] cars this afternoon.

"Our boys aren't doing the business here and we haven't recovered the time we lost yesterday. There's no question that it's hard to pick yourself up after a tricky first day, but at the same time I'm surprised at the times Mikko and Jari have set today."

Malcolm could be missing the point. His cars might be too slippery now, and simply cant get enough air into them, compared with Hennings '08 car. Very little aero changes can make a big difference.

Only a thought...

Or else Ford need a shake-up of its drivers.

[muscrae]

And another deserved victory for Loeb...

[bt52b]

Malcolm could be missing the point. His cars might be too slippery now, and simply cant get enough air into them, compared with Hennings '08 car. Very little aero changes can make a big difference.

Only a thought...

Or else Ford need a shake-up of its drivers.

Still paying the price of not signing Petter for the start of 2008

[Buzz Lightyear]

Kimi had laser surgery on his back one week before the rally. Kimi isn't one who complains easily, if he mentions it, it must be quite serious. Luckily there is 4 weeks before the next rally. He has a contract so he isn't just going give up, that is not him.

Do you think Kimi gives a **** if he has a contract or not? if he is not enjoying it, he will walk.

[MikeD]

And another deserved victory for Loeb...

Let's wait giving out trophies until after the final stage ... but this is one of those rallies where I am proud to be a mega Loeb fan.

[N.O.T]

well was this forum a better place for those 30 mins that my internet provider had plans for the night ??

[A.F.F.]

The script for this rally seems to be ready. Not that it wasn't before the rally but now at the latest :D

The only question is when Latvala let Mikko pass him and what will Citroen do with Petter and Ogier? By battling against each others, they'll jeopardise top three positions.... Which is exactly what Mikko wants right now...

[Mirek]

Broken differential for Kosciuszko.

[muscrae]

What is the last time that Citroens dominate podium?

[N.O.T]

since ogier and solberg don;t score points for citroen i guess they might let them fight....but do they cut manufacturer points from ford ??

[A.F.F.]

Do you think Kimi gives a **** if he has a contract or not? if he is not enjoying it, he will walk.

Exactly what I thought.

Honestly, I think Kimi had a little too sweet view of WRC before... Doing recce, notes, being alert whole three days of rallying... well, it's not that easy. I'm begin to suspect he won't do the whole season. I hope that he will though...

[muscrae]

The battle between Pons and Prokop is really good. The gap is now 4.5 sec in favor of Prokop.

[Halvis]

Good afternoon folks, haven't followed the rally, but it seems that Seb has it in the bag. Very good drive from Petter and Ogier also, I'm impressed with the way Petter has kept it together even if he's been sweeping all day. Ogier took a dive on the last couple of stages it seems, in order to be 3rd on the road tomorrow - which probably will secure him 2nd overall. Or will Citroen slow him down not too risk anything? It will be interesting to see.

Ford? WTF? Henning on the pace with the factory drivers...

[Barreis]

Probably road sections are the most boring when he (Kimi) must listen codriver without notes.. xd

[A.F.F.]

since ogier and solberg don;t score points for citroen i guess they might let them fight....but do they cut manufacturer points from ford ??

Doesn't Ogier score for Junior Team ?? And they both score individual points, away from Mikko... Surely Citroen wants to humiliate Ford by taking the both titles again. The point scoring at the beginning of the season is as important as at the end of the season. Like Mikko last year learnt...

[Langdale Forest]

Probably road sections are the most boring when he must listen codriver without notes.. xd

Why don't WRC cars have a music system in them?

[dimviii]

Pons 4,5 sec behind Prokop.Good fight at last day.

[MJW]

Exactly what I thought.

Honestly, I think Kimi had a little too sweet view of WRC before... Doing recce, notes, being alert whole three days of rallying... well, it's not that easy. I'm begin to suspect he won't do the whole season. I hope that he will though...
Well first F1 race is not until next weekend..........................

[A.F.F.]

Probably road sections are the most boring when he (Kimi) must listen codriver without notes.. xd

Exactly. God for bid he had to be in interaction with the codriver :eek:

[Rallyper]

Kimi knows exactly what rallying is about. Hes a finn dont you know?

He will take part this year to learn and next year to be a winner. Remember this post... :s mokin:

[A.F.F.]

Kimi knows exactly what rallying is about. Hes a finn dont you know?

He will take part this year to learn and next year to be a winner. Remember this post... :s mokin:

Yes... but in the end he is a sheet metal welder with lots and lots of cash. He can do whatever he wants and doesn't give a damn what other people think about it. :D

[MikeD]

Yes... but in the end he is a sheet metal welder with lots and lots of cash. He can do whatever he wants and doesn't give a damn what other people think about it. :D

Agree, plus I think he looks like a person that is missing "the hunger" that a driver needs to be at the top. He has that 2007 F1 title and like you said - a lot of cash in the bank ... it might have removed that hunger.

In other words i also think 2010 will be his only WRC season.

[N.O.T]

i think citroen will give orders for position holding.... Loeb gets the win Solberg gets 2nd palce after a good run and Ogier his first podium...everyone is happy.

[pettersolberg29]

Ogier got a podium in Greece last year.

[Halvis]

i think citroen will give orders for position holding.... Loeb gets the win Solberg gets 2nd palce after a good run and Ogier his first podium...everyone is happy.

Thats what I would have decided if i was in charge too.

[Tomi]

Kimi knows exactly what rallying is about. Hes a finn dont you know?

He will take part this year to learn and next year to be a winner. Remember this post... :s mokin:

He has done now 5 or 6 rallies, if rally would be so easy sport that drivers could be challenging the top guys after so little experience it would be ridiculous.
But I still think that this move to WRC was only "technical", because of Ferrari contract issues, and he will be back in F1 next year.

[pino]

well was this forum a better place for those 30 mins that my internet provider had plans for the night ??

Can you tell me why you need to be so negative, arrogant and spoil the fun of everyone in here ? :crazy: Please stop it right now, or I will give you a temporary ban.

[N.O.T]

if fun is transforming into a managers yes men no need to warn.....bye bye and thanx for those 10 years in here....

[bluuford]

Talking about position holding.. seems like Latvala has found some speed and therefore Ogier and Solberg cannot just fool around tomorrow. One spin, slow puncture, missing junction and he is in striking distance. I think that Ford is more hunger on Manu points and if Latvala can squeeze in front of Ogier he will stay there.

[JFL]

I must say.. A has been is doing pretty well.. ? Whats that all about?

[Tomi]

I must say.. A has been is doing pretty well.. ? Whats that all about?

Its because the Fords are off pace in high altitude and Sordo is out, are you not worried that junior Ogier is on par, even practically no experience from Mexico, but enjoy, i think it will not happen too often this year.

[RS]

Block was going much better than Kimi. He looks like a more complete rally driver. Kimi looks like a jumped-up F1 driver thinking he's good enough when he isn't.

Block himself said he has more experience of rallying than Kimi and he's right.

I don't think Kimi has this attitude at all. He said before the season that there would be accidents and he was right. When he keeps it on the road he's not really slower than 5-year-plan-man or some of the other moneyed men who have been doing it for years.

[pettersolberg29]

Its because the Fords are off pace in high altitude and Sordo is out, are you not worried that junior Ogier is on par, even practically no experience from Mexico, but enjoy, i think it will not happen too often this year.

Ogier is on par because he hasn't had to run first on the road at all. Yes, it has been a great performance by Ogier though.
Petter was far enough ahead of Sordo - he wasn't really a danger in my opinion. Also, the Ford's pace isn't bad in the hands of Henning - maybe Mikko and JML don't feel at home on Mexican gravel?

[bluuford]

Mexican gravel is probably too spicy for finns ;-)

[JFL]

Block himself said he has more experience of rallying than Kimi and he's right.

I don't think Kimi has this attitude at all. He said before the season that there would be accidents and he was right. When he keeps it on the road he's not really slower than 5-year-plan-man or some of the other moneyed men who have been doing it for years.

I guess this is Block's advantage... ??
Quote Chris Atkinson :
Ken's quite good at listening and learning. He really takes things in. Some young drivers just don't, but Ken accepts he's got to learn, that's going to be one of his big strengths.

There are a lot of young kids out there who are coming to the sport, but don't accept that they have anything to learn.

[pettersolberg29]

What's happening with SS18? No results at all, and only 6 through SS17. I thought the drivers did one SSS then did it straight again, no?

[JFL]

Its because the Fords are off pace in high altitude and Sordo is out, are you not worried that junior Ogier is on par, even practically no experience from Mexico, but enjoy, i think it will not happen too often this year.
Ok.. Good to know.. Thanks..

[Tomi]

Mexican gravel is probably too spicy for finns ;-)

Dont know about the drivers, but the spicier the better, but mexican, not texmex crap :)

[Tomi]

Ok.. Good to know.. Thanks..

You are welcome, and every time you need a reminder, take a look at the sweden rally tread ;)

[JFL]

You are welcome, and every time you need a reminder, take a look at the sweden rally tread ;)
Ok.. I will ..

[RS]

I guess this is Block's advantage... ??
Quote Chris Atkinson :
Ken's quite good at listening and learning. He really takes things in. Some young drivers just don't, but Ken accepts he's got to learn, that's going to be one of his big strengths.

There are a lot of young kids out there who are coming to the sport, but don't accept that they have anything to learn.

I saw a long interview with Block on Motors TV this morning and I was impressed with his attitude (not too American) and also surprised by his times on Friday.

[tolis]

Sordo and Wilson are FIA1 drivers so they have the time of the 1st FIA1 driver (Loeb) +5:00.
Block is FIA2 driver (he can't score team points) so he has the time of 1st FIA2 driver (P. Solberg) +5:00.
Sostos, thanks!!!

[Buzz Lightyear]

Kimi knows exactly what rallying is about. Hes a finn dont you know?

He will take part this year to learn and next year to be a winner. Remember this post... :s mokin:

OK, but I think your wrong.

[Buzz Lightyear]

I guess this is Block's advantage... ??
Quote Chris Atkinson :
Ken's quite good at listening and learning. He really takes things in. Some young drivers just don't, but Ken accepts he's got to learn, that's going to be one of his big strengths.

There are a lot of young kids out there who are coming to the sport, but don't accept that they have anything to learn.

Chris re-shaped his fair share of metal during his time in WRC. Do you own thing Ken....

[Boudica]

Do you think Kimi gives a **** if he has a contract or not? if he is not enjoying it, he will walk.

That is why you get a contract in the first place, you cant just walk away, there will be consequences. Of course contracts can be broken. But this has only been the second rally of the season who says Kimi's not enjoying himself?

[BDunnell]

He has done now 5 or 6 rallies, if rally would be so easy sport that drivers could be challenging the top guys after so little experience it would be ridiculous.
But I still think that this move to WRC was only "technical", because of Ferrari contract issues, and he will be back in F1 next year.

Well, let's face it, any driver coming into the sport needs to get some experience that involves finishing rallies and not crashing before they become a winner. Raikkonen is not about to win anything in the WRC any time soon, and if he's genuinely committed to rallying he ought to stay in the sport for a while longer. If he's not, and he wants to go straight back to F1 after a year, good on him for trying rallying, but nobody should expect much more from him than we're seeing at the moment.

[Boudica]

Block was going much better than Kimi. He looks like a more complete rally driver. Kimi looks like a jumped-up F1 driver thinking he's good enough when he isn't.

Well Block is a rally driver, last time I checked. Seriously how bad did people really think he was going to be? It was his first time out with the new car so that was obviously a disadvantage. But atleast he has done the rally before and he has done recce for it twice, and he did a bit of testing. And he has now been a rally driver for 5 -6 years.

Kimi havent't driven in Mexico, he had never driven the C4 before on gravel, he didn't do any testing and a week before the event he went for laser surgery on his back and he was using a new system of notes. His full level of experience was 6 rallies. He did crash out which of course is never good no way you look at it, but he was still consistently faster then Wilson and Block.

Kimi has never said he is going to beat everyone or something like that, during every review he kept on saying that he is only there to learn and he needs to gain experience. What the media makes of Kimi or Ken for that matter, taking part isn't really their doing. Both of them are rookies this year so why the different expectations, what perform is really expected from Ken and Kimi then, if you take everything into consideration?

I am no expert and I am just learning, so I would seriously like to know what I am missing in this equation?

[Boudica]

He has done now 5 or 6 rallies, if rally would be so easy sport that drivers could be challenging the top guys after so little experience it would be ridiculous.
But I still think that this move to WRC was only "technical", because of Ferrari contract issues, and he will be back in F1 next year.


Well, let's face it, any driver coming into the sport needs to get some experience that involves finishing rallies and not crashing before they become a winner. Raikkonen is not about to win anything in the WRC any time soon, and if he's genuinely committed to rallying he ought to stay in the sport for a while longer. If he's not, and he wants to go straight back to F1 after a year, good on him for trying rallying, but nobody should expect much more from him than we're seeing at the moment.

Okay, so perhaps that is part of the problem here, the fact that people dont really know how long Kimi is planning to do rallying. Some people think he is just on his way to F1 again, and others think he is more committed?

I dont even think Kimi himself has actually decided that. But I also dont think he is just going to quit after two rallies, or during the middle of the year like some people have stated. He has made this commitment so he will see it through. And besides if he has a pre contract with Red Bull for next year then he would first have to complete this year. The fact is if Kimi wanted he could have been in F1 this year, but he isn't so he properly really wanted to try rally.

[ProRally]

Just back from Service parc, lets hope they can fix Nasser's engine.... did not sound so good after original service so they had to go into SupeRally...

[Jafry]

Photos from 2nd leg HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=660&fseason=2010) ;)

[Langdale Forest]

SS 20 is cancelled by the organizers for safety reasons.

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=7079&desc=Rally+organisers+cancel+SS20

Was the reason of the cancelation just because of the predicted number of spectators, or was the stage too dangerous even without the spectators?

[Ucci]

Good morning to all!! It seem, it will be a one beautiful day for all Loeb&Citroën fans!! 55 seconds (under normal circumstances) should be enough advantage, no matter how strong will Peter&Seb yunior push for the second position.
Latvala and Hirvonen will change their positions, so if one of both Peter or Ogier makes a mistake, there is still place on a podium for Mikko. Although this would be totally undeserved for his performance during this three days....
Second match of this sunday will be between Prokop and Pons-less than five seconds is separating them.

[Langdale Forest]

Hope Solberg can keep 2nd place today.

[snellman]

what is up with the fords?

[Francis44]

Damn Mikko needs to take some risks if he wants to be champion. I know points are important but with 4 tarmac rally's this year if he dosen't step up things a bit he's going to be far away from Loeb later in the year.

If he starts to take some risks, even if he loses the championship, in the end he will feel better jsut because he really gave his maximum.

[Tomi]

Okay, so perhaps that is part of the problem here, the fact that people dont really know how long Kimi is planning to do rallying. Some people think he is just on his way to F1 again, and others think he is more committed?

Offcourse he is comitted in what he is doing now, and try his best, but in F1 drivers get better paid, and that stuff he can do well already. If he want to get on the absolute top in rallying it will take years, and its still unsure if he can make it.
All the reasonable things speak for a comeback in F1, but I also dont belive he would quit in the middle of the season.

[ProRally]

what is up with the fords?

Look at previous Rally Mexico's... they don't like the altitude.
Service parc is at 1800 meters and highest stage 2810 meters. Citroën did find good mapping

Going to service now for Leg 3

[Tomi]

Look at previous Rally Mexico's... they don't like the altitude.
Service parc is at 1800 meters and highest stage 2810 meters. Citroën did find good mapping

Going to service now for Leg 3

Latvala thinks one reason might be the gearboxes too, he says its difficult to keep the motor on effective area, with 5 gears.

[Boudica]

Offcourse he is comitted in what he is doing now, and try his best, but in F1 drivers get better paid, and that stuff he can do well already. If he want to get on the absolute top in rallying it will take years, and its still unsure if he can make it.
All the reasonable things speak for a comeback in F1, but I also dont belive he would quit in the middle of the season.

Yes, it would take time to really and master rally. And he has basically been working his whole live towards becoming a F1 driver. But I dont think he is that bothered about the usual F1 trappings. I suppose it will depend on how he thinks he is doing by the middle to third quarter of the year. I dont really know, I think he might actually stay in rally. But on the other hand the fact that Red Bull are sponsoring him so much, and the fact that there might be a seat open at Red Bull in 2011 all seems to fit in, quite nicely together. But honestly I dont know, I wouldn't make any predictions about it now.

[pettersolberg29]

Well Block is a rally driver, last time I checked. Seriously how bad did people really think he was going to be? It was his first time out with the new car so that was obviously a disadvantage. But atleast he has done the rally before and he has done recce for it twice, and he did a bit of testing. And he has now been a rally driver for 5 -6 years.

Kimi havent't driven in Mexico, he had never driven the C4 before on gravel, he didn't do any testing and a week before the event he went for laser surgery on his back and he was using a new system of notes. His full level of experience was 6 rallies. He did crash out which of course is never good no way you look at it, but he was still consistently faster then Wilson and Block.

Kimi has never said he is going to beat everyone or something like that, during every review he kept on saying that he is only there to learn and he needs to gain experience. What the media makes of Kimi or Ken for that matter, taking part isn't really their doing. Both of them are rookies this year so why the different expectations, what perform is really expected from Ken and Kimi then, if you take everything into consideration?

I am no expert and I am just learning, so I would seriously like to know what I am missing in this equation?

If you search for a Kimi v. Block thread then you will see that most people on here thought Kimi would be much faster. So far it isn't the case. That's the only point I was making.

[pettersolberg29]

No posts for an hour! Only 20 mins to go until Day 3 starts - what's your guess for the top 3 now?
Loeb for the win is clear unless he hits trouble, I'd say Ogier 2nd, Petter 3rd.

[muscrae]

Loeb, Petter and Ogier... Although I think that, Ogier will be faster, I want Petter to finish 2nd. At least, he should finish on the podium...

[Viridian Black]

Loeb will win it. Knowing Petter's luck he will most likely crash or the car will die

[MikeD]

I am guessing the rally will end with Loeb, Ogier, PSolberg covering the first 3 places.

Ogier and PSolberg could be a torn in the side for Ford this year, because now Citroën has 4 cars caple of beating at least one of the Fords. Ford only have two the other way around....

[muscrae]

SS 19 is live...

[WRC1]

my wish: petter - loeb - ogier - latvala - henning - hirvonen

reality: loeb - ogier - petter - hirvonen - latvala - henning

[pettersolberg29]

Solberg pushing too hard or Loeb relaxing a tad? -1.6 after 1.2km is a lot, no?

[WRC1]

oha!!! first split! petter in attacking mode :)

hope he stays on the road

[muscrae]

Solberg pushing too hard or Loeb relaxing a tad? -1.6 after 1.2km is a lot, no?

I think both..

[bretddog]

I don't expect Petter to go completely nuts. I think he wants to secure a podium finish for the sponsors now early season, before he allows himself to take too many chances. But I'm sure he will make a good effort, unless he looses too many seconds on the first stage.

[muscrae]

Ogier slower than Petter at the first split...

[WRC1]

loeb can afford to loose 1 sec/per km and still would win, so i think he just cruises home...

petter must go flat out, ogier is behind him

[muscrae]

loeb can afford to loose 1 sec/per km and still would win, so i think he just cruises home...

petter must go flat out, ogier is behind him

Totally agree.

[pettersolberg29]

Ogier's catching...

[MikeD]

I don't expect Petter to go completely nuts. I think he wants to secure a podium finish for the sponsors now early season, before he allows himself to take too many chances. But I'm sure he will make a good effort, unless he looses too many seconds on the first stage.

I think Petter is trying to force the Citroën PH-Sport team to ask Ogier to accept 3.place because they need the manu points, now that Sordo is out.

[jonkka]

I think Petter is trying to force the Citroën PH-Sport team to ask Ogier to accept 3.place because they need the manu points, now that Sordo is out.

Who needs points?

[JTLarsen]

Will the final SSS be broadcast online?

[Raini]

I think Petter is trying to force the Citroën PH-Sport team to ask Ogier to accept 3.place because they need the manu points, now that Sordo is out.

Will Sordo start today?

[jonkka]

Will Sordo start today?

Yes

[MikeD]

Who needs points?

With Sordo being able to score a maximum of 2 points, and with Citroën being 10 points behind in the manu title (after Sweden) then the Citroën Junior/PH-Sport team need to make sure that Ford only get a 3rd and 4th place in the manu title race and not a 2nd and a 3rd (in cease Ogier goes off).

Conprendes? ;)

[Mauri A]

Yes
why?

[jonkka]

With Sordo being able to score a maximum of 2 points, and with Citroën being 10 points behind in the manu title (after Sweden) then the Citroën Junior/PH-Sport team need to make sure that Ford only get a 3rd and 4th place in the manu title race and not a 2nd and a 3rd (in cease Ogier goes off).

Conprendes? ;)

Yeh, that figures. The way you had it worded got me thinking you assumed that Ogier could score for Citroen...

[jonkka]

why?

Why not?

[muscrae]

Seb is taking it easy...

[muscrae]

Petter is 13.9 quicker than Seb...

[Halvis]

Very tight between Ogier and Petter, seems that Petter stepped up the pace towards the end. It could actually get that close that it will be decided on the SSS!

[muscrae]

Ogier moves into 2nd, only 1 comptetitive stage to go now.. Fingers crossed .. :)

[WRC1]

Petter is 13.9 quicker than Seb...

and ogier 4.1 faster than petter...and take 2nd place .!!

[muscrae]

I wonder the winner in SWRC... Pons and Prokop are really good in there.. :)

edit: Pons is really quick.. He smashes Prokop's time in the second split.. :)

[WRC1]

wow! pons is 12 sec faster tahn prokop on 2nd split!!!!

[muscrae]

wow! pons is 12 sec faster tahn prokop on 2nd split!!!!

Obviously, he is so dedicated to win here in his debut with Fiesta and Nupel Team...

[Ondra WRC]

what happened Villagra? no splits :confused:

[muscrae]

Block is quicker than Wilslow by more than 10 sec now..

[tolis]

Pons was very fast yesterday, before his problem with the car...Faster than Martin Prokop.

[muscrae]

what happened Villagra? no splits :confused:

He is ok, finished the stage. I think some GPS problems...

[Ondra WRC]

muscrae: Ok, thanks. :)

[muscrae]

Pons is really flying... :) Over 20 sec now...!!!

[Micke_VOC]

Block going fast..near hennings time,

[muscrae]

Block going fast..near hennings time,

Yeah, amazing.. He is more than expected...

[Barreis]

Block is doing good for first WRC time..

[blissard]

Block going fast..near hennings time,

Looks like Henning got trouble after 2nd split.

[Mauri A]

Just when does Papa Wilson tell Latvala to slow down?

[MikeD]

Just when does Papa Wilson tell Latvala to slow down?

on the super speciel???

[Tomi]

Block going fast..near hennings time,

And henning is offcourse still pushing, villagra is so close :)

[Josti]

Pity to see the sunday routine again, with only two proper stages...

Could have been an interesting battle if there were a few more left. This one's for Loeb normally.

[Mirek]

No Nasser after all?

[Ondra WRC]

and Brynildsen?

[Mirek]

Brynildsen is ordered behind Kosciuszko, Nasser should have been before.

[Ondra WRC]

Mirek: Thanks ;)

[bluuford]

Nasser on the retirements lists. Looks like Fabias engine gave up.

[Mirek]

ok, thanks

[Sulland]

Gooo Petter !

[muscrae]

I think Petter will lose it... or wait for SSS :)

[bretddog]

I want an answer from Petter on the last half of this stage!

[muscrae]

Only 0.3 now.. Goddd :)

[Francis44]

One more real stage and Petter would have it.

[muscrae]

Difference now is 0.6 !!!!'

[Micke_VOC]

gonna be a interesting sss =)

[Mirek]

What a fight!

[bretddog]

hehe! Petter is at least in the mood! :) Hope he can pull it off..

[xavier]

Note that Seb Ogier won 3 out of 4 SSS so far with an average gap of 1.3 to Petter.

I expect him to keep his 2nd place

[RS]

The superspecial will actually mean something for once!

Most entertaining WRC event for ages this.

[muscrae]

Tactics done for Mikko then :) Thanks to JML .. :)

[Ghostwalker]

Lataval admits slowing down to let Miko get ahead, muscrae imo that tactics are a bad thing not a goodthing.

[Mauri A]

Lataval admits slowing down to let Miko get ahead, muscrae imo that tactics are a bad thing not a goodthing.
Lataval and Miko, who are they?

[pettersolberg29]

Note that Seb Ogier won 3 out of 4 SSS so far with an average gap of 1.3 to Petter.

I expect him to keep his 2nd place

Same - but at least there is hope (for Petter fans).

[muscrae]

Lataval admits slowing down to let Miko get ahead, muscrae imo that tactics are a bad thing not a goodthing.

Yeah, I know, I'm not in favor of that already. The smileys were just ironic, I'm already fed up with those silly tactics then...

[Salist]

Live on last stage???? Anywhere???

[Juha_Koo]

What can you do... JM was faster than Mikko but due to Loeb's poor last year many seem to think that Mikko could fight for the championship victory this season. I'm not so sure about that.

Great team player spirit by JM though.

[alexlake]

What can you do... JM was faster than Mikko but due to Loeb's poor last year many seem to think that Mikko could fight for the championship victory this season. I'm not so sure about that.

Great team player spirit by JM though.

just does not seem to be fair, but its what we will have to put up with through the season, loeb and sordo will do the same thing at times i suspect ;)

[bluuford]

I think that Jari Matti really needs this. He has had the feeling that team has given him a lot but he hasn't given nothing back. It should be very good for him to play a second driver for a while. There is still two stages to go but look, he has done two rallies without major mistake and he has improved his speed since the beginning of Sweden a lot.

[muscrae]

Petter is known for the driver of Super Special Stages, he really loves the show out there, but this time it may be different, because among those 4 Super Special Stages done so far, Ogier won three of them and had a second time in one. The conditions are nearly the same, just as the cars by and large, so it will really be fantastic to watch. Fingers crossed... :)

[Viking]

Mikkos lapdog layed down letting the can-opener gain a few points :devil: .... Hey wait :)

[Larry_Japan]

Petter knows he is no match for Ogier on SSS... wanted a 5sec cushion before it.

[bretddog]

Is Becs quoting this forum too now ? :)

[nr7wave]

Petter is known for the driver of Super Special Stages, he really loves the show out there, but this time it may be different, because among those 4 Super Special Stages done so far, Ogier won three of them and had a second time in one. The conditions are nearly the same, just as the cars by and large, so it will really be fantastic to watch. Fingers crossed... :)

After Petters horrible SSS in Sweden, he's been taking it easy on the SSS here in Mexico, I think. After the "sweden experience" he decided that it would be wise to go safely through the SSS, rather than push for a SSS win. It's very seldom you actually can gain something on doing a good SSS, but this time it's different. I think Petter will step it up and show that he is the master of SSS. :)

[Viking]

If they are running two cars it could be decided on first inside/outside lane, anyway trow the tools, tires, waterbottels and notebookpages out of the car and a good "draining" of the crew :)

[bluuford]

what has happened to Arai?

[JTLarsen]

Live on last stage???? Anywhere???
+1 I badly want to see this! :D

[ridder]

Good fight today, looks like Petter lost it with the mistake in the last corner on the previous stage. If we assume same speed as Ogier then split says he lost 2.5 seconds there, might have been more, since in the next stage he was being faster than Ogier in the 2nd half of the stage. Sure there'll be some video of it.

All in all great rally from both of them. Solberg proving that he should definitely not be sent home as some people here suggest. Ogier beating Sordo on every stage even though he was always just 1 car behind.

Seeing that and Ogier's learning curve I have to say that I don't believe Sordo is likely to be next champion after Loeb.

[muscrae]

And Loeb wins...

[Barreis]

This is not IRC to see the live show.. xd

[pettersolberg29]

Weird order. Mikko and Loeb, now Henning and JML. What are they basing this on?

[muscrae]

Weird order. Mikko and Loeb, now Petter and JML. What are they basing this on?

Don't know really, I'm also puzzled.. :S

[RS]

Weird order. Mikko and Loeb, now Petter and JML. What are they basing this on?

I would have thought it would have been quite a good idea to put Petter vs. Ogier :rolleyes:

[muscrae]

I would have thought it would have been quite a good idea to put Petter vs. Ogier :rolleyes:

Definitely...

[pettersolberg29]

I was wrong - I edited my post.

[Sulland]

Henning and JML is it according to sweden ?

[Viking]

Henning and JML is it according to sweden ?

It is according to interesting pairing

[Viking]

Wery good as always from wrr, no splits and the reporter is standing where he can see nothing :(

[Micke_VOC]

Go Petter !!!!!

[blissard]

Sordo drove alone?

[JTLarsen]

Wery good as always from wrr, no splits and the reporter is standing where he can see nothing :(

Quite the anticlimax!

[Sulland]

Bla bla bla from WRR - Comment pls !

Times !

[BeerBro]

Solberg did it!!!

[Francis44]

Solberg takes it!!!!

[muscrae]

Perfect job Petter !!! :)

[bretddog]

hohoho!! Awesome by Petter!

[WRC1]

BRAVO!!! Petter

[Sulland]

Thank you Petter !

Good Show !

[mm1]

WRR is joke, but thumbs up for Petter, just ashame we couldn`t hear his excitement.

[Halvis]

Fantastic finish to a rally - really great rally from Seb, Petter and Ogier - I think Petter deserved it, after sweeping the whole yesterday and yet still were able to take 2nd. Loved it!

[pettersolberg29]

Fantastic Petter - won the SSS by 1.4s from anyone - an average of 1.36.3 when the best yesterday was 1.36.9

[Barreis]

I like this Citroen 123.. :)

[MikeD]

Well done Petter!!!

[Tomi]

Congrats to Loeb, nice easy win again.

[Halvis]

Fantastic Petter - won the SSS by 1.4s from anyone - an average of 1.36.3 when the best yesterday was 1.36.9

Yeah, he crushed them actually. Great show!

[Woodeye]

Great to see mr. Hollywood this high in the ranks. It's been a while.

Not so good rally for the Ford boys. I really hope it's because off the high altitude etc what they've been saying themselves.

[Viking]

That is a new personal best from PSWRT :up: only a win to go now. They can for sure down a few Coronas tonight :)

[pino]

Congrats to Sebastien but what a great result for Petter :up: :D

[Roy]

Great to see mr. Hollywood this high in the ranks. It's been a while.

Not so good rally for the Ford boys. I really hope it's because off the high altitude etc what they've been saying themselves.

They say that every year. Strange Citroen can handle this and Ford didn't again. Congrats to Citroen. Nice to see Petter do it good. Ogier is almost ready to take it over from Loeb.

[Micke_VOC]

Petter did a great rally !!!! I´m so happy for him..

[bretddog]

Great result for the confidence of Petter and the team, as we can hear from the reaction of Petter too :) To look back I think it was a poor choice to stay 1st on the road for Saturday, but now that doesn't really matter.

[AndyRAC]

Congratulations to Seb on yet another win. Remember he ran 2nd on the road on Friday, 3rd yesterday and 1st today - something Mikko needs to do is cut his losses when he does run first on the road.
A well done to Petter and Sebastien Jr on good drivres from them. I must say, Seb Jr really has gone up a level this year; most fastest time on the Monte, a sensible drive in Sweden, and now this. Maybe Loeb's successor will be young Ogier.....
One final thought - a great example of how not to cover a sport - we had a thrilling final stage decider - and the coverage was frankly pathetic!! Wouldn't blame WRR too much, but why wasn't it on wrc.com live? Absolutely no excuse for that - this is 2010, not 1987.

[Francis44]

Congrats to Loeb, Solberg and Ogier, and for all the Citroen team!!!!

[Barreis]

Total amateurs - TV show..

[Viking]

Loeb was in fact lucky that Petter and Ogier was so fast on friday when Sordo could not really cut it, Petter lost 1m22sec to Loeb on Saterdays stages and he is 24sec behind in the end!

[Barreis]

Dear folks! That was Seb.Loeb's 55th win.. XD

[Woodeye]

They say that every year. Strange Citroen can handle this and Ford didn't again. Congrats to Citroen. Nice to see Petter do it good. Ogier is almost ready to take it over from Loeb.

Yep, they do say it every year. So maybe there's something in it. Or not, can't really tell.

[Langdale Forest]

:bounce: Petter is back! :bounce: :s mokin: :)

[Ondra WRC]

what happened Salgado?

[Viking]

Stage wins

Loeb 8
Solberg 7
Ogier 6

Citroen 21
Ford......... Nada

[Langdale Forest]

The Citroen C4 is probably better at high altitude than the Ford Focus.

[tolis]

You all congratulate Peter...Yes, I agree Peter made a very good rally, but Ogier is someone to hope for in the future!!! Congrats to Petter and Ogier!!!!!!!!!!

[pettersolberg29]

What I really hope for now is for Petter and Ogier to be able to battle Seb and Mikko and Sordo (and JML if allowed) on all surfaces and all rallies. Create a 5 way battle in all rallies, even if it will end up with Loeb and Mikko way ahead in the Championship. As already said, Citroen now seem to have 4 drivers capable of podiums, whereas Ford only have 2 - one of which has been told to drive for Manufacturer points.

[Langdale Forest]

Sordo could have been winning rallies 2 years ago if it were not for Citroen wanting Loeb to win the championship again. This year, if Loeb is not leading the championship and Sordo is leading a rally by about 30 seconds with Loeb in 2nd place, If Citroen gave team orders to make Loeb win, they are IMO being a bit greedy, because Loeb had 55 wins and 6 championships, and Sordo does not have a single win! And by the way, if Sordo is faster than Loeb he deserves to win!

If Latvala is not reminded to finish the rally, he will often finish his rally in a ditch so some steady finishes would be good for JML this year.

Ogier could be a better driver than Sordo by the end of the year.

[Barreis]

They were with Loeb in 25 seconds and that's optimistic for the rest of the season..

[Langdale Forest]

???

[Ghostwalker]

What I really hope for now is for Petter and Ogier to be able to battle Seb and Mikko and Sordo (and JML if allowed) on all surfaces and all rallies. Create a 5 way battle in all rallies, even if it will end up with Loeb and Mikko way ahead in the Championship. As already said, Citroen now seem to have 4 drivers capable of podiums, whereas Ford only have 2 - one of which has been told to drive for Manufacturer points.

Even if the Ford boys have improved on Tarmac there is a big chance/risk (depending who you cheer for) that it will be a
Citroen 1-2-3 in the Tarmac events with Loeb, Sordo and Ogier. then we have Kimi and Petter in addition to those three.

[ridder]

In Spain last year in his first rally in C4 Solberg was faster than Ogier.

[bassist]

Now we are talking ! Petter back on a level playing field- Brilliant Drive my son, I look forward to you and Phil capatalising on this result. Keep on it!

[A.F.F.]

Congrats Citroen !!! I was very happy to see Petter vs. Ogier battle which I truthfully thought wouldn't have happened.

Loeb was again the master of Mexico :up:

[dimviii]

congrats to Loeb for a steady win.
Also congrats to Ogier for his third rally in a row with speed.
Congrats to Petter also cause to run a private team and finish second in front of works drivers is something i don t remember to have achieve somebody the last years.He is welcome to be a 3rd player is some? rallies this year!!

[bluuford]

Well, great rally. Very hard fight between 2nd and 3rd until the end. Hard fight for the lead in SWRC and also hard fight in PWRC until Toshis off. Cannot wait for next rally.

I just noticed that we are coming from the highest altitude rally to the lowest altitude rally :-)

[Mirek]

Despite it was only-Citroën rally I found it very interesting, especially the battle between Petter and Seb the second.

[Stalks]

Congrats Citroen !!! Loeb was again the master of Mexico :up:

Just a thought...what if Seb started planning this event before he even went over the start ramp in Sweden?
Could Citroen be so confident to let Mikko win in Sweden just to be sure Seb didn't run first on the road on day one in Mexico?
Every year it is a large disadvantage to be first on the road on day one, and usually dictates who will win the rally. Whoever runs first on day one inevitably finishes day one at least 3rd or worse, and at least 20 seconds off the pace. Is that realistically too much to catch back up for the remainder of the rally?

Conspiracy theory??

[pettersolberg29]

Maybe, but Citroen can't have banked on how slow the Ford's were. Mikko was +1m30 from the end of Day 1 to the end of the rally despite having a great road position. In the same sort of positions, Ogier and Petter won stages.

[blissard]

Congratulations Petter! Outstanding driving on the last SS.

[bretddog]

I can't imagine any such theory. What is one first place better than another, why not take both? He is good enough for that and that's what he is always aiming for. Also we saw Loeb was really on the limit in Sweden.

However I'm sure that Citroen had a very deliberate plan to run Loeb as 3rd on the road this Saturday, so they had probably a few tactical backup plans on the table. Specially with the short Sunday, that was very important.

[Mirek]

I can see Trivino and his Pug 206 on this photo. Did he drive as a zero car or in some separated national event?

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2010/wrc/mx/sa_a_6_trivino_60.jpg

[Ghostwalker]

]I can see Trivino and his Pug 206 on this photo. Did he drive as a zero car or in some separated national event?

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2010/wrc/mx/sa_a_6_trivino_60.jpg

he drove for his own team:

http://www.emotorsport.se/nyheter.php?id=3633

[Mirek]

You didn't get me right. I know it's his own car but the car has expired homologation and he therefore wasn't part of WRC event. I'm asking in which status did he drive the rally.

[Doon]

Even if the Ford boys have improved on Tarmac there is a big chance/risk (depending who you cheer for) that it will be a
Citroen 1-2-3 in the Tarmac events with Loeb, Sordo and Ogier. then we have Kimi and Petter in addition to those three.

Trust me Kimi 'the kid' lol, wont do jack all season. Rallying is rallying, and pacenotes are pacenotes, on tarmac, gravel, snow...whatever, he just cant get used to them. No way will he get near a podium, unless 4 top cars go out.

[bluuford]

Well, seems like rally Mexico is getting better and better year by year. Looking the onborads, photos and videos I can see that numbers of spectators has increased, roads look very nice and no major troubles with spectators.

[Josti]

Well, seems like rally Mexico is getting better and better year by year. Looking the onborads, photos and videos I can see that numbers of spectators has increased, roads look very nice and no major troubles with spectators.

Only a real lack of competitors. No more than 30 entries this year.

I still prefer Argentina as the South American round (if there's no room for two).

[tolis]

Does anyone know the reason why Araujo run with an Evo IX, instead of his Evo X?

[JFL]

Does anyone know the reason why Araujo run with an Evo IX, instead of his Evo X?

Cause its still better maybe?

[FAlonso]

Does anyone know the reason why Araujo run with an Evo IX, instead of his Evo X?

It was due to a logistical problem. Ralliart Italy were building a second Evo X chassis but it wasn't ready in time for it to be shipped to Mexico. Armindo said this was a one-off appearence for the Evo IX. He will be testing the Evo X in Italy (sometime this week) in preparation for the Rally of Jordan and the plan is to do the rest of the championship in this car.

Armindo has often been asked if the IX is better than the X but, for logical (brand) reasons, he has also dogged the question a few times.
However, from what I read, he feels the X is a great car with a lot of potencial but is still a bit handicapped on the weight front when compared to the IX. With some more developement work beeing done in the coming months this might not be an issue and even then he believes the car is already faster (at this stage of developement) than the IX on most environments (mainly tarmac).

[Jafry]

Photos from 3rd leg and finish podium HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=660&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fauthor=&ftxt=) ;)

[A.F.F.]

Just a thought...what if Seb started planning this event before he even went over the start ramp in Sweden?
Could Citroen be so confident to let Mikko win in Sweden just to be sure Seb didn't run first on the road on day one in Mexico?
Every year it is a large disadvantage to be first on the road on day one, and usually dictates who will win the rally. Whoever runs first on day one inevitably finishes day one at least 3rd or worse, and at least 20 seconds off the pace. Is that realistically too much to catch back up for the remainder of the rally?

Conspiracy theory??

Sorry... I don't buy it. But that makes a good movie plot :p :

[raybak]

I don't believe that running 2nd on the road would make much difference to 1st on the road. Running 4th or 5th makes a big difference to 1st though.

Ray

[bluuford]

I don't believe that running 2nd on the road would make much difference to 1st on the road. Running 4th or 5th makes a big difference to 1st though.

Ray

It makes difference. You can follow the lines created in front, you can brake fraction later if you can see that first car has braked twice etc. specially on very loose surface it is clearly visible. In Mexico it is actually quite a big handicap on the second pass as well. There is very solid base of the road and when the top is cleaned it is nearly like tarmac, no ruts. When you are doing second pass then slower cars and other passing cars (organization cars) has carried very thin layer of on the lines and then it is almost like gravel on tarmac and something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-oPGs7Tuy4
can happen very easily.
Citroens are very good on tarmac and Mexican gravel in some places is nearly lice tarac (during the second passes).

[EavesFan09]

Maybe, but Citroen can't have banked on how slow the Ford's were.

I don't think Ford banked on how slow the Ford's were! :(

What a right shower Malcolm Wilsons team is turning out to be! Most of you have always known how slow and useless Ford is, but I am of course new to the WRC so most things will come as new to me. Including how utterly rank Ford is.

They have let me down, they have let other Ford fans down and they let themselves down.

[Daniel]

I don't think Ford banked on how slow the Ford's were! :(

What a right shower Malcolm Wilsons team is turning out to be! Most of you have always known how slow and useless Ford is, but I am of course new to the WRC so most things will come as new to me. Including how utterly rank Ford is.

They have let me down, they have let other Ford fans down and they let themselves down.
WTF? Every team has bad days. Whilst I love kicking Malcolm and his team.... one rally doesn't make a whole season.

[EavesFan09]

WTF? Every team has bad days. Whilst I love kicking Malcolm and his team.... one rally doesn't make a whole season.

I know it doesn't, but Ford (from what I have seen of them this my first season as a Ford fan) are nowhere near as fast as Citroen and I don't know if they ever will. I can see now why Citroen have won every trophy this century.

I am seriously thinking about switching from supporting Ford to Citroen. I do not support losers.

[mm1]

Have you been watching/folowing Sweden, if you mention this season?

[bluuford]

yeah, remember season 2005. Solberg took very, very dominant victory by nearly 1 minute in front of Grönholm and it was his last proper win.

[EavesFan09]

Have you been watching/folowing Sweden, if you mention this season?

Of course I did. But that was a rare event if Mexico is anything to go by.

[mm1]

I think that Ford hasn`t made their homework in high altitudes, because previous year Ford was on paar with Citroen on gravel.

[jonas_mcrae]

]You didn't get me right. I know it's his own car but the car has expired homologation and he therefore wasn't part of WRC event. I'm asking in which status did he drive the rally.

Well from what I heard in Leon, he was allowed to compete as a "special entry" in the mexican championship, not nominated for points and always had to run last in the stages. After the 206's (from the 206 cup) Triviño had to wait 10 minutes and then he could run the stage. It was more like a historical entry, because after him only ran the american BMW... Anyways it was nice to see the 206 again, no idea what kind of times he was scoring, as he was never in the results but ok good to have an other WRC running.

pictures of triviño by my friend Szanto Frigyes here:

http://rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/03_vasarnap/pages/RSHU_Photo_030_jpg.htm

http://rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/02_szombat/pages/RSHU_Photo_068_jpg.htm

http://rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/02_szombat/pages/RSHU_Photo_067_jpg.htm

thats me in the red shirt by the way!

[Mirek]

Thank You

[jonas_mcrae]

Got back from Leon a few hours ago and have to say this was a fantastic weekend. In my opinion this is the best rally Mexico on record, not just because of the fight between Petter and Ogier, but because all the event went as planed.

No stone throwers, no big incidents, and even with stage 20 being cancelled it was annouced on friday, so no big disruptions. The watersplashes being too deep is a situation out of control and it is due to unusual amounts of rain in the last few weeks so Im not going to count that as a problem. (About stage 20, I saw parts of it on saturday, and it is a very spectacular piece of road, shame it was cancelled, however it does look dangerous...)

Also the roads leading to the stages were in a great condition this year so it was easier and faster to get to spectator spots. On Satuday we did four stages, something unthinkable when I first attended in 2004... So congratulations to the organisers

Someone mentioned the amount of spectators, and yes it is increasing, maybe not to levels comparable with Argentina, but still I feel the number of people interested in rallying is going up, specially in popular spots as jumps and watersplashes.

The street stage was OK, but thats it, just OK, some nice hairpins but I still think you only need either the street stage or the super special. I didnt go to the SSS, but from what I hear is improving (less dust and better access) also it was nice to see that the fight for 2nd place was decided there.

About the drivers, it was an impressive drive by both Ogier and Petter they were always flat out (we saw Ogier spin in stage 11), for sure Sebastien II is a very promissing driver for the future. About Dani I didnt like his lines I think he was too flat, even Loeb was taking lines that were more aggresive and sometimes even sideways (we even saw him having some troubles in the same stage Kimi rolled).

Then the ford guys had a ver dissapointing rally, they always looked off the pace, specially miko... you could tell he was on maximum attack mode, specially on saturday, very clean lines, no big moments, but the times were telling a different story.

A little bit dissapointed with Block, not fast and not even spectacular, I guess he was taking it easy. You could tell he was struggling, specially in tight corners and slow sections. The nicest thing he did for the rally was to bring the monster energy girls!

About Kimi, cant say much, as I only saw him twice... I think he might be trying to go too fast in sections he can't cope or doesn't have the skill to control the car. We saw him loose his wing when he hit a tree in stage 17 just a few kilometers before he rolled. I think he needs more testing and find the real limits of the car.

The S2000's where nice, Pons didnt look like the fastest driver on the stages, but in the end he clinched the win, Nasser looked very fast, but its a shame he hit trouble, during service I heard a conversation between him and his mechanics, he was saying the car was great but the dampers were too soft and they were slowing him down.

Thats about it, hope mexico can be and event with the WRC in future years, and with this king of excitement more international entries make the trip. (I hear they want to make it a Rally America event as well... Not just because Im mexican Im saying this is a good event, in the past I've been critical about some aspects of the rally but I really think this year it was great.

You can check some pictures by my friend Frigyes (also from the forum) here,
I took some of them but I my name is not on the web page! > :(

day 3: http://rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/03_vasarnap/index.htm

day 2: http://rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/02_szombat/index.htm

day 1: http://rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/01_pentek/index.htm

[pettersolberg29]

Nice write up. I completely disagree about Block though. He impressed me very much - better than Wilson and Villagra on your debut in a car isn't bad at all.

[jonas_mcrae]

well yeah considering it was his first event I guess it was okay, I guess I was expecting a more spectacular drive from Mr. Showman.

[SubaruNorway]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but does anyone get why Ogier slowed down on SS21 the one before the SSS? He drops something like 5sec at the end while the co driver calls out the time. It was on the Motors TV broadcast. Cos Ogier still starts before Petter in Jordan...

[Mirek]

It's discussed here: http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137314&page=2

It seems that the image is from saturday with wrong clock cause he was only 0,3 seconds faster on last split. Slowing down to the time on the clock (from SS21) seems to be impossible. Especially considering that last split is the last info he gets about Petter's speed.

[tmx]

It's unrealistic to expect more, although he has been rallying, his international experience is limited and its his first time in a WRC car with limited testing compared to Wilson 5 years. I was expecting him to crash out on a big accident or be in the 20-30th place. But turns out he drove really well and even competes with Wilson at times.

[WRXedUSA]

Great to see Solberg happy in tears at the end-stage interview, he's earned it.

Sebastien almost wears those boots and sombrero too well.

Nice pics Jonas.

[DonJippo]

]It's discussed here: http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137314&page=2

It seems that the image is from saturday with wrong clock cause he was only 0,3 seconds faster on last split. Slowing down to the time on the clock (from SS21) seems to be impossible. Especially considering that last split is the last info he gets about Petter's speed.

Last info is stage finish time not the last split and from finish time they get the target time when they slowdown on purpose. That said I too believe those images are from Saturday stage and someone just made an error and thought it is from Sunday.

[Salist]

WRC 2010 Mexico Rally - Motors TV - Day2 HD...
http://medve330-4.atw.hu/2010%20WRC%20R02%20Corona%20Rally%20Mexico%20Day%2 02.mkv

WRC 2010 Mexico Rally - Motors TV - Day3 HD...
http://medve330.fw.hu/video/wrc.2010.r02.rally.mexico.day03.mkv

[Mirek]

Last info is stage finish time not the last split and from finish time they get the target time when they slowdown on purpose. That said I too believe those images are from Saturday stage and someone just made an error and thought it is from Sunday.

My bad. Of course You're right ;)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Anyone know who drove the Pug 206 WRC in Mexico ? And any photos?! :D

[noel157]

I must learn to read
I must learn to read
I must learn to read
I must learn to read


Thanks Mirek.