Thread: WRC Rally Acropolis Greece 2021
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20th July 2021, 09:40 #151
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WRC Rally Acropolis Greece 2021
To me that looks like proper Acropolis, similar surface as in Turkey recently
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20th July 2021, 14:40 #152
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20th July 2021, 20:01 #153
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The video on YouTube above shows the part of stage from around km 4 until it meets the tarmac part and heads into the Karoutes part of the stage. Before that from start just outside Itea until km 4 will be one of the most spectacular parts of the rally and if you walk-climb a bit, you can have very good panoramic view for long distance... The part on the video is a very fast and narrow road with a lot of stones but I have a feeling after the machinery pass from there it will become flat out...
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21st July 2021, 17:13 #154
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Thank you for presenting your argument.
Let me complete mine. As you know, this Acropolis is done by a totally different organizing body than all previous ones, appointed by the government. This new organizer on specific stages (Pavliani, Pirgos, Tarzan) has decided to follow your "flat road" philosophy by putting a road-roller and making them completely flat. This is done for the first time. At least I have never seen it since 1986 that I am watching, nor in the three Acropolis I have participated. On other stages until now they have not done it (Ag. Theodori, Loutraki, Eleftherohori). As I just came back from recce on the first two of them, I can tell that these are fixed the old way without being "rolled", so they will be as they were.
Personally, I disagree with this new organizer and I prefer Acropolis to remain as it was, so I do not want road-rollers. Not only because this is its traditional character, but because if we change it to "just another flat rally", I am afraid we will lose it permanently. You are not the only Greek that has this "flat road" philosophy, my co-driver has the same as you and we have had this argument lots of times. Time will tell which of these two opinions is more effective for the survival of the rally.
P.S.1 The truly extraordinary spectacle is on fast bad sections (5th and 6th gear). The fast sections on "hell roads" like the downhill of Agia Sotira, last part of Vari, EIeftherohori after the 2nd lake and several others offer spectacle "out of this world" that you cannot see anywhere else. You can see the same level of "extra-terrestrial" things as you can see in Finland or Poland, and I dare say even higher.
P.S.2 I do not know about old people, I am not yet. But I do know that young ones are absent from Greek rallying, except of two or three with rich dads that used to be rally drivers. Young Greeks prefer dragster, drifting and "facebooking". So, if old people are considered a "waste of space", as you say, and they leave to "open up space", I am afraid that Greek rallying will collapse to non-existence in one single day. Just because young Greeks prefer much safer activities these days than they used to. So, I suggest you leave old ones in their space.Last edited by scn; 21st July 2021 at 17:18.
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21st July 2021, 17:28 #155
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21st July 2021, 20:08 #156
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We have different points of view... the old organisers organised the rally around their personal pockets though.
we will see how these will do.
As for the young greek drivers... what do you expect ? its a balkan country with no rally philosophy and subhuman culture... even greek rally drivers are not rally drivers... they are some overweight slobs that are a disgrace to the human anatomy and not athletes as they should be... same goes for the speactators... just take a look how many are gathered at hairpins just to see handbrake turns like some bottom feeding supine invertebrate jellies.
but thats another story.
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21st July 2021, 20:27 #157
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I read it, smirked and then thought what would remain, if all the NOTism would be omitted.
Maybe something like this?
"As for the young Greek drivers... It's a balkan country with no rally philosophy, Greek rally drivers are not fit athletes. And spectators, they just gather at hairpins to look at handbrake turns."Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.
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21st July 2021, 20:31 #158
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The Bauxites part that is shown in the video is only 3-4 kms of probably the best stage this year, and after the machinery this part will be again flat out...
The part I am a bit considered (I checked it 15 days ago) is the part you mention in Eleftherohori from the second lake until 2-3 kms before the end in Mendenitsa... there is no gravel left there in some parts... only rocks... I had a tough time passing even with 4x4, I had to be very careful...
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22nd July 2021, 06:10 #160
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