WRC Rally Sweden 2020

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/saarijarno/statu...489527301?s=21

Shortened route has been proposed. Decision tomorrow at earliest.

[abcrally]

However liasions will be difficult. And for spectators moving around. Not many big roads are going in east-west direction from northern Värmland to Dalarna.

Notice that lot of the sponsor money for the rally comes from Karlstad. If the event is moved to north that sponsorship is gone.
The stages are organized by local motoring clubs and voluntaries. Do they have similar stuff in north?
And surely it would be hard to find enough good stages near the (new possible) Rally HQ /SP.

[Rallyper]

Notice that lot of the sponsor money for the rally comes from Karlstad. If the event is moved to north that sponsorship is gone.
The stages are organized by local motoring clubs and voluntaries. Do they have similar stuff in north?
And surely it would be hard to find enough good stages near the (new possible) Rally HQ /SP.

It should be worked out properly. HQ and stages would become situated much closer to each other than todays Karlstad situation.

[abcrally]

It should be worked out properly. HQ and stages would become situated much closer to each other than todays Karlstad situation.

Karlstad only has SSS and ceremonial start nowadays. Lot has changed but they still sponsor the event.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I heard the hilly north of Sweden has a lot of skiing and the hotels will be booked-up by skiers.

[abcrally]

I heard the hilly north of Sweden has a lot of skiing and the hotels will be booked-up by skiers.

True. No major sponsor money for the rally available from north as the accommodation and restaurants etc would be booked in February anyway.

[BleAivano]

I heard the hilly north of Sweden has a lot of skiing and the hotels will be booked-up by skiers.

True. No major sponsor money for the rally available from north as the accommodation and restaurants etc would be booked in February anyway.

That is true for the western part of central and northern Sweden (in the mountains), like Sälen, Idre, Härjedalen/Vemdalen, Åre..... .
However I don't think there is that much skiing in the Umeå area since that area is relatively flat compared the mountains in the west.

[denkimi]

This is why.
https://images.app.goo.gl/mdTF5a6DPV6wfRMU6

What happens when the frozen roads start defrost is that the top layer becomes very saturated with water so the road becomes very very soft, almost like a floating surface.
see this picture below (source). Now imagine 20-30 rally cars + other official vehicles to drive on a road like this. How many cars would be able to pass before they would get stuck?
Then next question would be how you would remove the cars being stuck (as you cannot drive a heavy vehicle on the road)?

So they are not gravel roads. They are just frozen dirt.

That was all in needed to know.

[AnttiL]

A road like that is a mix of stones, gravel, clay and soil. When dry in the summer or frozen in the winter, it can be as hard as tarmac.

[BleAivano]

So they are not gravel roads. They are just frozen dirt.

That was all in needed to know.

No, they are gravel roads just like the one in the pic below. As I said the situation in the pic above is what happens when the road has been frozen (and covered with snow) but have defrosted.