[WRC] News & rumours (part III)

[rallyfiend]

When you have a team of 80 and you book a hotel for a half a week then 50€ is mostly the maximum limit for twin room. So, max 40 rooms for the team, it is approximately 2000 per night. and 10 000-12 000 per rally. Whole season cost approximately 150 000 eur for accomodation. Take one day from eaxh rally, it is approximately 25 000 saved per season...
The point is that if you save something from everywhere, you get a bigger number by the end of year.

I think M-Sport would be the only 'Manufacturer' team in which any staff share rooms...

[rallyfun]

When you have a team of 80 and you book a hotel for a half a week then 50€ is mostly the maximum limit for twin room. So, max 40 rooms for the team, it is approximately 2000 per night. and 10 000-12 000 per rally. Whole season cost approximately 150 000 eur for accomodation. Take one day from eaxh rally, it is approximately 25 000 saved per season...
The point is that if you save something from everywhere, you get a bigger number by the end of year.

Will that kind of savings make any difference for 40 mln euro budget team? It's just a fraction of %... Anyway I think the message was that teams don't get any value for money they spend. Nothing has been done since Mr Ciesla joined WRC and there is no good news coming as well. If WRC get proper TV and internet coverage then we won't read any complains form any team.

[Barreis]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114190

[journeyman racer]

Would it be a big deal to have longer rallies, but maybe smaller season, 6-8 rounds? Manufacturers look for any reason not to join a series, or get out of one. I'm not certain of the exact changes being proposed for the WRC, but I get an impression it breaks away from "proper" rallying. If this is the case, then it'll just lead to a further deterioration of the series.

From what I see here with V8supercars. Whenever a series fiddles around with it's sporting regs, in an attempt to generate more interest from tv, it just leads to less interest from tv down the track. Sometimes, you just have to accept where you're at. Off-road motorsport is a smaller industry than circuit racing. While the WRC is of equal value to F1 (if not, more) as a driving competition. It doesn't have the natural advantages F1 has commercially. You can't make a plant grow from a rock.

[Jack4688`]

I like that idea, but maybe 8-10 rallies. We could have events going all over northern Italy, all over North Wales, northern England & into central Scotland, all over Sweden & Norway etc etc.

Unfortunately I fear it's more likely the manufacturers will want to hit more markets, so long as they don't go back up to 14+ events like we had about 10 years ago. The manufacturers would have more sway in this matter too

[AndyRAC]

Some good points above;

When you keep messing around with your format; it just suggests you have no confidence in your product and/ or you don't know what you're doing. Rallying is NOT F1 or RallyX, so stop trying to make it like them. It's meant to be a test of speed and endurance of man and machine.

I think going for 8-10 events would be better for the WRC; can it really support 14-16 events? Not in my opinion. Too many involved think the sport is bigger than it actually is.

[Barreis]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114201

[Nornbugger]

I am not saying that hotel cost is the biggest problem but consider its €200 per room per night, based on a team on 80 staff, say 10 on single room status, with 30 twin rooms, include the pre event test and recce, WRC rallies are 10 days long for the professionals. Do the maths.

I did the maths and 10 people had no room to sleep in :-(

Do I get a prize for the 1st correct answer?

[wrc1600]

Would it be a big deal to have longer rallies, but maybe smaller season, 6-8 rounds? Manufacturers look for any reason not to join a series, or get out of one. I'm not certain of the exact changes being proposed for the WRC, but I get an impression it breaks away from "proper" rallying. If this is the case, then it'll just lead to a further deterioration of the series.

From what I see here with V8supercars. Whenever a series fiddles around with it's sporting regs, in an attempt to generate more interest from tv, it just leads to less interest from tv down the track. Sometimes, you just have to accept where you're at. Off-road motorsport is a smaller industry than circuit racing. While the WRC is of equal value to F1 (if not, more) as a driving competition. It doesn't have the natural advantages F1 has commercially. You can't make a plant grow from a rock.

Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I remember about 8-10 years ago Subaru's budget was about 80 mln euros. The biggest budget now is about half of it. Are all those talks about promoter problems or they just look for excuses as you noticed?

[A FONDO]

Manufacturers look for any reason not to join a series, or get out of one.

This is true. Manufacturers will always be unhappy with the length of the rallies. They only want to have the headlines "Driver X with our car did a great result" after spending as less as possible. They approve spending only when it gives them advantage for a certain victory.
That's why the rally sport must be centered around the privateers, as it was in the beginning - rich people enjoying their expensive hobby. But with this greedy corrupt french governing body this will realistically not happen soon.