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[Zeakiwi]

I do not know enough about the NZ championship, could You enlighten us in the regards of loosening up the regulations etc?

This was put online earlier this year. http://tinyurl.com/kydljyy NZ rally car regs/ 2015. I don't agree with everything that is written there.

[Mk2 RS2000]

http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/d...0Portfolio.pdf

Current NZ Rally Championship Portfolio.


http://www.motorsport.org.nz/

Motorsport NZ Website

[OldF]

The problem with 4WD is that the group N cars are on their way out, and the R5s are too expensive.

Here in Finland the ASN try to keep the 4WD N-group cars competitive against S2000 and R5 cars by some freedom in the regulations for group N cars. I think that at least in smaller population countries there’s usually only few drivers that can afford the best machinery and if one or two of those driver is superior in the skills, the fight for the championship between those two, in the worst case only one.

In fact the biggest class this year is the SM1 class with upgraded N4 cars.

A short description of FIN R4WD, FIN N4WD and FIN R2WD regulations.
http://www.rallism.fi/en/info/

SM1: Super4 (FIA R5, Super 2000 Rally (2.0 and 1.6T), FIN R 4WD (incl. also WRC cars homologated before 31.12.2002)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/super4/

SM2: Tuotanto4 (FIA N4, FIA R4 and FIN N4WD)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/tuotanto4/

SM3: R2 (FIA R1 & FIA R2)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/r2/

SM4: Super2 (FIA R3, FIA N3, FIN R2WD, S1600, Diesel group N & A)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/sm4/

[Lundefaret]

Here in Finland the ASN try to keep the 4WD N-group cars competitive against S2000 and R5 cars by some freedom in the regulations for group N cars. I think that at least in smaller population countries there’s usually only few drivers that can afford the best machinery and if one or two of those driver is superior in the skills, the fight for the championship between those two, in the worst case only one.

In fact the biggest class this year is the SM1 class with upgraded N4 cars.

A short description of FIN R4WD, FIN N4WD and FIN R2WD regulations.
http://www.rallism.fi/en/info/

SM1: Super4 (FIA R5, Super 2000 Rally (2.0 and 1.6T), FIN R 4WD (incl. also WRC cars homologated before 31.12.2002)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/super4/

SM2: Tuotanto4 (FIA N4, FIA R4 and FIN N4WD)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/tuotanto4/

SM3: R2 (FIA R1 & FIA R2)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/r2/

SM4: Super2 (FIA R3, FIA N3, FIN R2WD, S1600, Diesel group N & A)
http://www.rallism.fi/sarja/kilpailijat/sm4/

Hello OldF, and thank You for Your input!

After we have gone the rounds in the Norwegian rally-community, speaking of one televised championship-class, possibly making this 2WD etc, there has, as was our intention so we can shed a light from all angles, developed quit a big discussion.

Since You are Finnish I have some questions I hope You can answer:

1) Is the Finnish Championship televised?
If so, wich classes, and on wich channel, at wich times?

2) You have a very succesfull 2WD cup called the F-Cup. Is this on par in popularity with the national championship?

3) Is the F-cup televised?
If so, on wich channel at wich times?

Hope You can answer my questions, best regards from Ole-Martin

[Lundefaret]

http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/d...0Portfolio.pdf

Current NZ Rally Championship Portfolio.

http://www.motorsport.org.nz/

Motorsport NZ Website

Hello, I am looking in to this. Very interesting. And the part I like the most in the NZ Championship is actually the use of UTVs as entry level veichles.
Practising Nose End First we already use Polaris UTVs.

[Lundefaret]

Good luck to you and your brother. The slogan you’ve chose is great and the program very complete. I don’t have any clue on the Norwegian national championship, still I suggest some ideas that worked ok in others countries and can contribute for the sport promotion:

- Fans: implement a junior team (a sort of GT Academy), in order to give young fans, with zero or very limited experience, the chance to practice the sport and to progress in it.

- Media: invite media members to drive in a demonstrational mini-rally, with basic rally cars and experienced co-drivers. It’s a way to generic press, tv or radio get a proper idea of what rally is.

- Social Responsibility: in each rally donate to a different aid organization a fraction of the driver’s entry fee.

- Environmental Care: promote in every rally a concrete initiative in order to reduce the sport footstep (tree planting, forest cleaning, etc).

- Show: try always to associate special landmarks (heritage sites or buildings, etc) to the rally route. They look good in TV footage and press photos!

I think I forgot to answer this one:

Thank You Rally Power! Some very good ideas! They are all actually very good ideas, and can help this being even stronger!

We hope to find out if we are able/willing to take on this role in the time frame of a couple of months. Exiting, yet daunting!

[OldF]

1) Is the Finnish Championship televised?
If so, wich classes, and on wich channel, at wich times?

Yes, on MTV Oy’s pay channel MTV Max. After 3 days the rally can be watched via internet on MTV Katsomo for free. Only in Finland if I understood it right but you can of course try http://www.katsomo.fi/?treeId=33002048

OSAKILPAILU		MTV Max		MTV Katsomo
Arctic Lapland Rally, Rovaniemi (kisa 23.-25.1.)		to 30.1. 18:00-19:00	//	klo 19:00 >
SM Vaakuna Ralli, Mikkeli (kisa 21.-22.2.)		to 27.2. 18:00-19:00 pe 28.2. 9:55-10.40 la 1.3. 19:00-20:00	//	2.3. klo 19:00 >
SM Itäralli, Joensuu (kisa 8.3.) -		to 13.3. 17:00-18:00	//	16.3. klo 18:00 >
Pohjanmaa SM-Ralli, Lapua (kisa 14.6.)		to 19.6. 21:00-22:00	//	22.6. klo 22:00 >
SM-Ralli, Turku (kisa 29.-30.8.)		to 4.9. 21:00-22:00	//	7.9. klo 22:00 >
Pirelli Ralli, Tampere (kisa 26.-27.9.)		to 2.10. 21:00-22:00	//	5.10. klo 22:00 >

2) You have a very succesfull 2WD cup called the F-Cup. Is this on par in popularity with the national championship?

I don’t have any figures but I think it’s more popular than FRC.

3) Is the F-cup televised?
If so, on wich channel at wich times?

Same channel as above. A half an hour coverage usually at 19:30 next week’s Thursday after rally weekend. I didn’t find F-cup on free Katsomo but it can be watched afterwards at http://www.jent.fi/pages/netti-tv/2014.php. To watch previous years, click on “Netti-TV” and choose year. I don’t know if it’s work outside Finland.

[Lundefaret]

1) Is the Finnish Championship televised?
If so, wich classes, and on wich channel, at wich times?

Yes, on MTV Oy’s pay channel MTV Max. After 3 days the rally can be watched via internet on MTV Katsomo for free. Only in Finland if I understood it right but you can of course try http://www.katsomo.fi/?treeId=33002048

OSAKILPAILU		MTV Max		MTV Katsomo
Arctic Lapland Rally, Rovaniemi (kisa 23.-25.1.)		to 30.1. 18:00-19:00	//	klo 19:00 >
SM Vaakuna Ralli, Mikkeli (kisa 21.-22.2.)		to 27.2. 18:00-19:00 pe 28.2. 9:55-10.40 la 1.3. 19:00-20:00	//	2.3. klo 19:00 >
SM Itäralli, Joensuu (kisa 8.3.) -		to 13.3. 17:00-18:00	//	16.3. klo 18:00 >
Pohjanmaa SM-Ralli, Lapua (kisa 14.6.)		to 19.6. 21:00-22:00	//	22.6. klo 22:00 >
SM-Ralli, Turku (kisa 29.-30.8.)		to 4.9. 21:00-22:00	//	7.9. klo 22:00 >
Pirelli Ralli, Tampere (kisa 26.-27.9.)		to 2.10. 21:00-22:00	//	5.10. klo 22:00 >

2) You have a very succesfull 2WD cup called the F-Cup. Is this on par in popularity with the national championship?

I don’t have any figures but I think it’s more popular than FRC.

3) Is the F-cup televised?
If so, on wich channel at wich times?

Same channel as above. A half an hour coverage usually at 19:30 next week’s Thursday after rally weekend. I didn’t find F-cup on free Katsomo but it can be watched afterwards at http://www.jent.fi/pages/netti-tv/2014.php. To watch previous years, click on “Netti-TV” and choose year. I don’t know if it’s work outside Finland.

Thank You very much for Your information. This will be a BIG help!

[OldF]

As a side note regarding the title of your post: isn't the name of the sport "Rallying", rather than "Rally"? I have noticed this creeping in recently. The sport, as far back as I can remember, has always been called Rallying.

I got curious what’s the difference between these two words and did some googling.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rally gives the definition of rally as a noun:

“Automobile competition using public roads and ordinary traffic rules. The object is to maintain a specified average speed between checkpoints; the route is unknown to the driver and navigator until the start of the event.”

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rallying gives the definition of rallying as:

“the sport of driving in automobile rallies”

It’s also says that first known use for rallying is from 1957 compared to rally that’s from 1603 or 1651.

Maybe both rally and rallying is correct? I don’t know. I have a book from 1965 that’s called “Rallying with BP”.