Farage v Clegg - EU debates.

[gadjo_dilo]

Ok, I understand you have a problem only with those who are eligible for benefits......Like if you're poor and don't have a proper job don't come here. It's closed.

Countries like Canada, Australia and America have stricter rules on immigration and I think the UK needs to take note of this.

They're not part of EU. If you accepted us you should learn to cohabitate with us. Whether you like us or not.

[henners88]

Sorry I didn't realise Canada, Australia and America were not part of the EU, so shouldn't have used them as examples for having immigration policies I admired. I should have used an EU country and made it up really.

Its not about disliking a nation of people and I don't know why you keep trying to accuse me of that? There is no point discussing something if my point of view is going to be twisted and misinterpreted so obviously. No thanks.

[Big Ben]

No. I understand her. Sometimes people have bad days, misunderstand things on purpose to pick up a fight with someone. What's going on gadjo? bad day at work?

[gadjo_dilo]

I'm afraid you'll have a bad day on the forum if you "take of my life" ( regretabila traducere dar stii ce vreau sa spun ).

[odykas]

I think gadjo is referring to the free movement of EU nationals.

No matter what kind of immigration policies the EU countries may have, they shouldn't apply to EU citizens.

[donKey jote]

I think gadjo is referring to the free movement of EU nationals.

No matter what kind of immigration policies the EU countries may have, they shouldn't apply to EU citizens.

Yes.

I've spent most of my childhood and my entire adult life as an EU migrant in several EU countries, so this subject obviously touches a nerve...
Of course I might care that my tax money gets wasted! but I certainly don't care where whoever my hard earned tax monies get wasted on comes from, so long as they are all treated equal.
One thing I don't have much time for are the donkeys who fall for the jingo and actually believe that all their (Or -in their minds- their once glorious country's) problems are down to the couple of Johnny foreigners who actually do play the system.
How is this any worse than the couple of national fat cats playing the system in other ways, tax dodging and the likes?
Slack EU immigration policies crippling the UK... Strange how they don't cripple other EU countries with a much larger amount of net EU migration. I'd suggest some of you look elsewhere if you want to solve your problems, not to pint toting demagogues or their fancy ideas

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Yes.

I've spent most of my childhood and my entire adult life as an EU migrant in several EU countries, so this subject obviously touches a nerve...
Of course I might care that my tax money gets wasted! but I certainly don't care where whoever my hard earned tax monies get wasted on comes from, so long as they are all treated equal.
One thing I don't have much time for are the donkeys who fall for the jingo and actually believe that all their (Or -in their minds- their once glorious country's) problems are down to the couple of Johnny foreigners who actually do play the system.
How is this any worse than the couple of national fat cats playing the system in other ways, tax dodging and the likes?
Slack EU immigration policies crippling the UK... Strange how they don't cripple other EU countries with a much larger amount of net EU migration. I'd suggest some of you look elsewhere if you want to solve your problems, not to pint toting demagogues or their fancy ideas

Here, here!

Absobloodylutely!

If you have a problem with the state benefit system then it is not the EUs fault or Johnny Foreigners fault, it is the UK governments fault.

So anyone who has a problem with the free movement of people in the EU has to come up with a different reason. Things like lack of infrastructure, housing, schooling etc to handle extra people is also the domestic governments problem. Other reasons like changing cultural identity and segregated communities are more personal and more difficult to tackle.

[odykas]

Slack EU immigration policies crippling the UK...

EU immigration policies are actually protecting the UK and other countries of the North / Central Europe.

The ridiculous Dublin 2 regulation prohibits transfer of illegal immigrants from the country they entered EU area to other EU countries.

As as result, most of the burden falls on countries of South Europe, while other EU member states enjoy border protection for free.

[henners88]

Yes.

I've spent most of my childhood and my entire adult life as an EU migrant in several EU countries, so this subject obviously touches a nerve...
Of course I might care that my tax money gets wasted! but I certainly don't care where whoever my hard earned tax monies get wasted on comes from, so long as they are all treated equal.
One thing I don't have much time for are the donkeys who fall for the jingo and actually believe that all their (Or -in their minds- their once glorious country's) problems are down to the couple of Johnny foreigners who actually do play the system.
How is this any worse than the couple of national fat cats playing the system in other ways, tax dodging and the likes?
Slack EU immigration policies crippling the UK... Strange how they don't cripple other EU countries with a much larger amount of net EU migration. I'd suggest some of you look elsewhere if you want to solve your problems, not to pint toting demagogues or their fancy ideas

I don't think anybody here thinks all the countries problems are down to foreigners so I hope that paragraph wasn't aimed at any one here in particular. I also don't think anybody here supports UKIP and believes they are the solution to all our problems either.


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[steveaki13]

I would like to point out at no point that I can remember have I even discussed the actual politics side.

I mearly defended peoples right to vote for UKIP and not be called idiots and racists as a sweeping statement.

I agree with certain aspects of all the posts made here.

Watch out Henners, Gadjo is feeling put out by your anti Romanian Rant

and Gadjo you better not come over here or Henners and his kind will get you.

(No offence intended to either of you )