Scottish Independence

[Roamy]

will this lower the price of single malt scotch ?? if so I'm in!!!

[Zico]

Based soley on what I see and experience with my particular line of work supporting the welfare system in Scotland and dealing with a large percentage of the unemployed who have never worked a day in their lives, nor ever have had any intention to, I have real concerns that an independent Scotland would very quickly descend into a downward spiral and the cost of living would escalate through the roof. Why? Because other than some poxy short term North see oil we literally have nothing, no solid core base of industry on which to build. How would/could we support ourselves with the way things are currently? On one hand this would give this country the kick in the @rse it needs but it would bring it to its knees in the process.

It pains me to say this but for such a long time through rife unemployment and the labour government scottish vote winning welfare system, we have to a very large extent become a nation of welfare supported work dodgers, who to a large extent have been living out of Englands pockets... no wonder they want shot of us!

Maybe it's time I changed my job as dealing with scum who incidentally are largely better off than I am, scum who sit on their butts all day receiving handouts that are expected and they "have rights" to receive, that all of us (Working Brits) have to pay for in extortionate taxes has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth.
I consider myself more of a realist than nationalist and sadly have very little pride in my country any more. I'll be voting 'No' at the referendum and if in the unlikely event we do win independance, I'll emigrate.. to England.

[Zico]

There are plenty of examples like Glasgow in the UK where football teams divide allegiance relating to religion but it's nothing like Northern Ireland I can assure you. Not even in the same ball park.

I take it you've never been to Larkhall then?...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...le-981747.html

[henners88]

I take it you've never been to Larkhall then?...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...le-981747.html

Maybe you and Spafranco are right then, we have another Northern Ireland style situation brewing.

Reading that article about calls for shops to change the colours of their logos to suit the beliefs of religious fundamentalists is just outrageous. I can't believe people are so primitive that they find offence in a colour just because a rival religion uses something similar. I think Scottish people should be more concerned they may potentially be isolated in a country with these morons who could cause some instability more than anything else. Reading on in that article there are suggestions green traffic lights, and even grass has been destroyed because of its colour! If that article hadn't been from November 2008 I would have said it was an April fool!!!

If independence is voted in I am starting to think it will be best for everybody. I think England, Wales and Northern Ireland will be better off financially without the added drain of the benefits culture in some of Scotland's poorer areas. I just feel for some of my Scottish buddies who are dead against it and might end up living in a society they haven't voted for, but that is democracy.

PS: Mark should be careful with the Blue and Green header on this website lol.. Its got community war written all over it

[Mark]

Based soley on what I see and experience with my particular line of work supporting the welfare system in Scotland and dealing with a large percentage of the unemployed who have never worked a day in their lives, nor ever have had any intention to, I have real concerns that an independent Scotland would very quickly descend into a downward spiral and the cost of living would escalate through the roof. Why? Because other than some poxy short term North see oil we literally have nothing, no solid core base of industry on which to build. How would/could we support ourselves with the way things are currently? On one hand this would give this country the kick in the @rse it needs but it would bring it to its knees in the process.

It pains me to say this but for such a long time through rife unemployment and the labour government scottish vote winning welfare system, we have to a very large extent become a nation of welfare supported work dodgers, who to a large extent have been living out of Englands pockets... no wonder they want shot of us!

Maybe it's time I changed my job as dealing with scum who incidentally are largely better off than I am, scum who sit on their butts all day receiving handouts that are expected and they "have rights" to receive, that all of us (Working Brits) have to pay for in extortionate taxes has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth.
I consider myself more of a realist than nationalist and sadly have very little pride in my country any more. I'll be voting 'No' at the referendum and if in the unlikely event we do win independance, I'll emigrate.. to England.

To be fair you can see that both ways. Personally I think being an independent nation would mean Scotland would improve, because it has to, as there's no subsidy coming from the rUK.

[Zico]

Maybe you and Spafranco are right then, we have another Northern Ireland style situation brewing.

Reading that article about calls for shops to change the colours of their logos to suit the beliefs of religious fundamentalists is just outrageous. I can't believe people are so primitive that they find offence in a colour just because a rival religion uses something similar. I think Scottish people should be more concerned they may potentially be isolated in a country with these morons who could cause some instability more than anything else. Reading on in that article there are suggestions green traffic lights, and even grass has been destroyed because of its colour! If that article hadn't been from November 2008 I would have said it was an April fool!!!

It is outrageous. The part about the grass being set on fire because of its colour sounds a bit dubious and was probably just general vandalism that developed into a Larkhall urban myth but other than that I can assure you that the article paints a fairly realistic picture of the extent of the bigotry in Larkhall.
It is true that in 2007, green traffic lights in Larkhalls main street had to be fitted with wire grilles after a staggering 200 of them were vandalised or removed over a three-year period.

Some areas of Larkhall share a lot of similarities with some areas in NI with Rangers flags and Union Jags adorning houses and lamp posts, fences and kerbs painted Red white and blue... and the Subway shop front shown in the earlier link being coloured black instead of the usual green sadly is no photoshop!

Walking through the town wearing a Celtic top on a Friday or Saturday night would be suicidal for sure.

[Spafranco]

I wonder how many people in that community believe in this garbage. Every Scot I have met, and there are many , can't stand the division and visceral hatred being elicited by these fringe troglodytes.

please correct me when I say that these same friends stated that Rangers fans, in order to see games at he weekend instead of having to go to Timbuktu in order to see Rangers play Raith Rover (div 1?) are traveling to Dundee

[Spafranco]

Hey, who owns the Shetland Islands?

[Rollo]

Hey, who owns the Shetland Islands?

The Shetland Islands are part of Scotland. They even send a member to the Scottish Parliament.
They were part of a dowry paid by Christian I in 1469, against his daughter Margaret who got married to James II (of Scotland).

[Spafranco]

Iona is also Scottish?