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Thread: Nelson Mandela RIP
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8th December 2013, 10:25 #31
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Re: Nelson Mandela RIP
Lol, can anyone believe this guy? Still running with that same line of thought that since I'm Australian, I have certain inherent attitudes, and have obviously been overly influenced by the media here to hold certain views.
In this country, 80% of the media believed Tony Abbott was exactly what the doctor ordered after the 'disastrous' Labor years, 98% believes Obama is doing just fine and is one of the best US presidents of all time, 99% believe the global economy is 'back on track' in steady recovery mode since the GFC, and all but 100% believe in the aforementioned Gallipoli myths. Somehow, I believe in none of those things. There's a reason why I'm now keenly studying International Relations at the honours level, and it's because I love critically analysing history and contemporary affairs, and being able to determine who wants you to think what rather than towing some media-driven line of opinion.
The only way I can justify you not getting the point of why I admire Mandela, is because you genuinely seem like the kind of person who got beat up at school and did practically nothing to really stand up for yourself rather than sulk about it. Fortunately, Mandela was of the opposite spectrum of humanity - the kind who didn't take shit, stood up for freedom (rather than hid behind it), and then even more rare by human standards was that he offered forgiveness to his most brutal oppressors when the tables of power were turned (otherwise, he probably would have been a Mugabe-type). The wrongs he did as an early liberation leader genuinely weigh little compared to the massive good he achieved.I am anaspeptic, pharismotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.
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8th December 2013, 10:33 #32
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Re: Nelson Mandela RIP
Originally Posted by henners88
EDIT: Anyways, I somehow think danny boy's pride is going to keep f**king with his chances of seeing the situation fairly. Therefore, 'thats all folks' for me in this debate (if you can call it that).I am anaspeptic, pharismotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.
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8th December 2013, 10:38 #33
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Re: Nelson Mandela RIP
Originally Posted by webberf1
1. I'm bitter. You never answered why.
2. That I said he was a useless terrorist. I never said this.
3. That I feel that the current issues mean Apartheid was justified.
4. That I don't think you should be able to admire him.
5. That I got bullied at school and did nothing about it. I mean wtf?
You seem unable to make a genuine argument so you go around making personal digs at people and putting words in their mouth. I said Mandela was a terrorist, I never said that no one could admire him and I didn't deny that he did a lot of good. things.Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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8th December 2013, 10:46 #34
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Re: Nelson Mandela RIP
Originally Posted by webberf1
Feel free to make up things about me and insinuate that I beat my wife or some other such silly things if you don't have a proper answer to my points.Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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8th December 2013, 13:08 #35
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Re: Nelson Mandela RIP
Originally Posted by henners88
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8th December 2013, 21:13 #36
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Re: Nelson Mandela RIP
WEBBERF1 Do you try really hard to make yourself look clueless or does it just come naturally? I love how you've just jumped to the assumption that I'm a hypocrite (and presumably some 'Aussie pride' bogan) on the issue of blacks in South Africa solely because I come from Australia. It's almost, and I do say almost, as dumb as the time Spafranco immediately assumed I was some neoconservative republican fanboy, masquerading as an American solely because I pointed out how obviously disastrous the Obama Administration has been.
Like your buddy Spa, I'm here to bring you back to reality. No one will be as quick as me to admit Australia's utterly disgusting history when it comes to this land's indigenous people, and race relations with our Asian neighbours. In fact, for most of history we were far, far worse and more appalling than South Africa! So much so in fact that when Woodrow Wilson wanted to veto Japan's requests for racial equality in the League of Nations, he essentially went to Australia, ahead of South Africa, to do the dirty work. Also a good reason for why we to a large degree deserved Japan's hostility to us in the years that followed. Want me to go on about how this country supported the confederates in the Civil War, or how its national pride in reference to Gallipoli is often based on complete myths?
Again, get a clue. You're dealing with someone who has a massive passion for racial equality and improvement of quality of life for indigenous people - and has put his actual time and effort into contributing towards that.
My point is this, don't you make completely false assumptions about me, based on nothing but my nationality, just because you can't make a proper, independent argument for crap, and continue to undermine yourself by maintaining your poor and bitter attitude.
It's people like you who make the following pic true, and why you're really not worth the effort https://images.encyclopediadramatica.es ... ternet.jpg[/quote]
Webber, do the forum a favor and stick to the topic. Stop adjudicating what you believe as though it were fact. Stop dragging the forum down and using me as your puppet in doing so. You seem to believe that you have this considerable knowledge of the beliefs and presumed thoughts of other forum members. Believe me Webber, you are as inconsequential to me as Mark Webber was to Red Bull. You trumpet ultra right wing jargon and then use your bully pulpit to deflect from your tripe and insensitive posts.
Keep your comments with reference to me in posts directly to me. Don't draw Daniel into your obvious narcissistic belief that you know so much as to put us as politically aligned. I don't know the man and I doubt he knows me. However, let me tell you this I find his posts to be intellectually superior to your right wing blather while trying to convey an argument that is more racist than it is political. You fool not one.
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Re: Nelson Mandela RIP
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Re: Nelson Mandela RIP
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