Hamilton's First Win.

**ioan** · 20th April 2007, 11:22

Originally Posted by tintop

Perhaps owning wasn't an appropriate choice of words - but beating Michael especially with that Ferrari machine behind him was a real historical benchmark, kind of like victories over Federer or Woods.

I wouldn't go that far. In F1 the car is a huge factor, can't compare it with tennis and golf.

**Ranger** · 20th April 2007, 11:28

Originally Posted by ioan

I wouldn't go that far. In F1 the car is a huge factor, can't compare it with tennis and golf.

The line is too blurry that it just makes such comparisons between F1 drivers rather futile.

**tintop** · 20th April 2007, 15:26

Originally Posted by ioan

I wouldn't go that far. In F1 the car is a huge factor, can't compare it with tennis and golf.

Well then, beating MS AND Ferrari. All 3 atheletes are have the possibility of being more dominant that anyone before or after them in their respective sports, so victories or championships at their expense have a greater meaning. When MS retired last year a number of drivers said that they were lucky to have competed against and in a few cases beaten MS, because it gave extra clout to those victories.

**ArrowsFA1** · 20th April 2007, 15:28

Originally Posted by ioan

I wouldn't go that far. In F1 the car is a huge factor, can't compare it with tennis and golf.

I don't believe that comparison was being made. The point was that beating the person who is considered to be the benchmark for the sport is a big achievement, whatever the sport.

**Ian McC** · 21st April 2007, 13:51

Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

I don't believe that comparison was being made. The point was that beating the person who is considered to be the benchmark for the sport is a big achievement, whatever the sport.

Less so in motorsport, unless they are driving the same type of car, as with Lewis and Alonso.

**Valve Bounce** · 21st April 2007, 14:28

Originally Posted by Ian McC

Less so in motorsport, unless they are driving the same type of car, as with Lewis and Alonso.

If we believe that the Ferrari is a faster car than the McLaren, then Lewis beating Kimi is one helluva achievement.

**F1woman** · 22nd April 2007, 17:25

Originally Posted by jjanicke

I'm starting to believe that Hamilton could be the best rookie ever to join F1. Does anyone know of any stats that rival his for a rookie racer?

1st race: Qual 4th - Finish 3rd
2nd race: Qual 4th - Finish 2nd
3rd race: Qual 2nd - Finish ?

Who has outdone that?

3rd race Qual 2nd - Finish 2nd Who done that let me think

OH NO ONE!!

**F1woman** · 22nd April 2007, 17:37

Originally Posted by truefan72

going which way?.

I am a big LH fan, but JV had a phenominal first year and won the WDC his second year, so I hope LH has similar success. For all those who can't stand JV, you can't take away his accomplishments. like my sig says...

JV and LH are associates I remember last year, JV playing music with LH Both got great voices both of them were also having barbecue together. Remember JV got a album out.

**Bezza** · 23rd April 2007, 20:55

I reckon he's got a good chance at Spain, however Alonso will be fired up for his home race. I have a sneaky feeling his first win will come at Magny-Cours, and he will take two more wins before the end of the season.

**F1woman** · 23rd April 2007, 21:42

Originally Posted by jso1985

yep many of them I think, the ones I remember right now are: Alesi, Herbert, Alonso and Montoya, there's surely more.

now what's interesting is that all F3000/GP2 champions have failed to win a F1 championship

GP2 is a new championship it start 4 years ago. Lewis won it's last year when the championship was it's 3th year.