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8th July 2013, 03:31 #1
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Webber unlapping himself during SC period
I don't get it. When he was over a full lap down, why was Webber permitted to pass all the cars, then drive around the circuit and rejoin at the tail end of the lead lap?
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8th July 2013, 04:46 #2Originally Posted by keysersoze
We used to have this rule a few years ago, too. It was most notable in wet races, where we could see how "fast" the track was.
Then at some point rules changed and this wasn't allowed anymore. And it was confusing before we had no idea who was racing whom. It was very chaotic and to and extent quite foolish.
We had a thread somewhere, where I am pretty sure I advocated bringing this rule back.
After what happened today, this has to be changed.
But we can't just say keep track position, can we?
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8th July 2013, 06:12 #3
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whilst his position on track was unchanged, lapped cars are allowed to rejoin the same lap. I think its purely a product of the lap calculations that they have to overtake and run the lap, rather than just dropping to the back and having the lap added to their chart, although I would suggest the latter would be preferable if they can work the IT side of things so they appear to have one more lap than actualy recorded. Why they should get the lap back in the 1st place I don't know. If you scrapped that the lapped cars could just drop to the back of the snake (in order) and save waiting for them to overtake and get back on the rear of the train, probably a couple of laps behind the SC could be saved
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8th July 2013, 06:18 #4
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I don't see why they don't pick up behind the SC in the order they are on track. If the leader has lapped a car then why should 2nd place get the benefit of getting on the leaders gearbox because of a unrelated incident?
Leave the lapped cars where they are and just make sure they get out of the way in the restart.
Simples
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8th July 2013, 07:37 #5
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Originally Posted by Knock-on
I would also add. Why do they need to gain a lap? What right have they to gain a whole lap? If cars a lap down need to get out of the pack then drop them to the tail of the snake but stay 1 lap down.
Example
SC - Positions 1-12 Lead Lap, Positions 13-16 +1 Lap, 17-19 +2 Laps.
Then cars stay where they should be on lap charts and the restart is not affected by traffic.
But ultimately I would just do what Knockie SaidI still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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8th July 2013, 08:37 #6
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Originally Posted by Koz
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8th July 2013, 10:51 #7
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Originally Posted by Knock-on
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8th July 2013, 14:44 #8
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Not to mention the purpose of the SC is to slow the field down. It defeats the purpose if a driver is expected to speed past a queue of cars to simply to reorder the field.
“If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti
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8th July 2013, 15:22 #9Originally Posted by AndyL
Because of lapped traffic, after 1 lap of racing after the Safety Car, 2nd place was already 9 seconds down on the leader. He was 4 seconds down by the time he even reached the green flag.
Losing 5-10 seconds to the leader because of lapped traffic is not a situation I would like to see repeated.
That doesn't mean the current Safety Car rules are perfect either.
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8th July 2013, 16:36 #10
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Originally Posted by AndyL
THIS
Had the safety car not come out, they would have had to deal with the back markers anyways, so why the manipulation of track positions?как могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю
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