Xbox One vs PS4

[Daniel]

Yeah Mark sums it up for me in a brief sentence lol. I appreciate you can get small PC's these days but I prefer an even smaller laptop for surfing the net and editing photographs. My work give me a decent laptop to run SolidWorks too and I bring that home when I need to do extra CAD work.

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I dare say it would run many games as it has a mean graphics card but I don't need it for that type of thing. I sold a desk a few years back that used to have my PC on, and don't want another one. Its good to know PC gaming is still alive and well as its easy to assume consoles are the only form. I just prefer a games unit I can hide away until I need it.

I said I agreed with you and your reasons

To Mark, that doesn't really make sense though? What do you do when you need to buy something that you're not clued up on? Personally I'll find a friend who knows about it, just like someone who doesn't know about cars will take a knowledgeable friend with them to go and have a look at a car. Plus these days you can just go on forums and tap into them for advice.

Like I said, there's this perceived complexity around PC gaming, that it somehow requires more skill than just normally operating a computer. With steam, all you need to do these days is put your username and password in and it'll automatically install your games for you. I went back to Perth last December, I fancied a game so I downloaded the steam client (no more difficult than installing firefox and everyone on here can do that) and installed my games and was away and playing in no time No scratched discs, no need for a collection of discs sitting out, no need to change discs when you want to play a different game.....

Don't get me wrong, I have a 360 which I use to play Forza 3 and 4 and I do like it for racing, but PC gaming is so much less costly than people make out and so much less complicated. I remember when we got our first PC in 1992, gaming was a bloody minefield!

Did you have enough RAM? Was the RAM actually upgradeable? Was your CPU fast enough? Did you have that port in the back for the joystick? Change to disc 2 now. Gawd, it was terrible! Even when we got our second PC back in 1997 it was still pretty poor, did you have the right version of direct x? The PC didn't have an AGP slot and back in those days onboard graphics was truly woeful.

Nowadays games are self patching, Windows update makes sure you're up to date and you can game with stuff that's 3 or 4 years old, case in point, my graphics card is actually just under 5 years old and still absolutely fine for the job. According to my normal upgrade schedule, I'm due a new PC in February, I won't bother with it though and might just get a new graphics card for 150 quid or so.

[Daniel]

Google and Apple fancying a piece of the console pie?

"Game" Consoles Are the Final Key to Digital Domination | Gizmodo UK

I can't see either being successful with the size of the fanbase for both the xBox and PS4, but never say never. For me though its a bit like the mobile and tablet market where established competitors are hard to break, or at least take a lot of time to bridge the gap. We'll see.

Personally I think Sony or Nintendo could be knocked out of the game if someone did something amazing, but I doubt it will happen. Gaming gives far too much control to the game developers and Apple would never want to be involved in that and the developers would never submit to Apples wishes, they've already got as big an audience in the console business as they could have with Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft, Apple won't create any significant marketshare so I doubt they will enter the fray and if they do I don't see what they'd add, but hey I was wrong with the iPhone and the iPad....

[JasonPotato]

I have only just recently upgraded my PC, probably spent somewhere around £500 minus the old parts i sold. In the end i now have a top gaming spec PC for around the price of what a new next gen console would cost and this would blow them out of the water. I'm not saying building a gaming PC is going to be cheaper as you wont want to settle for cheap components but for what you get out of a PC compared to a console its far superior. I will still want to upgrade at some point to a solid state drive and maybe a newer Graphics card but this is out of choice and wanting to improve performance further. The new Motherboard i have has HDMI so could quite easily plug it into the LED 3D TV i have and use it like a console but it's so big it's not something i would do.

I may sound like i am a PC fanboy but that strictly isnt true as i own both Xbox and PS3 and have owned every single version of both since i was a kid. The PS3 i now use only as a blu-ray player because the games suck and the less said about the controller the better. I much prefer Xbox except the fact it's owned by Microsoft and you have to pay £40 a year to play online. Despite these i have always preferred Xbox and with games like Fifa 14 and GTA V which come out later this year i for one will be keeping it just for these.

I probably will buy the Xbox One but not right away, will let the price come down first as £420 is OTT and get over the initial hype and bugs. I have read that it comes with a blu-ray drive so will most likely get rid of Playstation altogether and just have the Xbox.

[Daniel]

I have only just recently upgraded my PC, probably spent somewhere around £500 minus the old parts i sold. In the end i now have a top gaming spec PC for around the price of what a new next gen console would cost and this would blow them out of the water. I'm not saying building a gaming PC is going to be cheaper as you wont want to settle for cheap components but for what you get out of a PC compared to a console its far superior. I will still want to upgrade at some point to a solid state drive and maybe a newer Graphics card but this is out of choice and wanting to improve performance further. The new Motherboard i have has HDMI so could quite easily plug it into the LED 3D TV i have and use it like a console but it's so big it's not something i would do.

I may sound like i am a PC fanboy but that strictly isnt true as i own both Xbox and PS3 and have owned every single version of both since i was a kid. The PS3 i now use only as a blu-ray player because the games suck and the less said about the controller the better. I much prefer Xbox except the fact it's owned by Microsoft and you have to pay £40 a year to play online. Despite these i have always preferred Xbox and with games like Fifa 14 and GTA V which come out later this year i for one will be keeping it just for these.

I probably will buy the Xbox One but not right away, will let the price come down first as £420 is OTT and get over the initial hype and bugs. I have read that it comes with a blu-ray drive so will most likely get rid of Playstation altogether and just have the Xbox.

Exactly SSD's are fantastic, I still have all my games on a traditional spinning drive, but with the OS on an SSD and the games on another hard drive it's still very fast to load games and the OS loads up in a few seconds from a cold boot

My graphics card is so old it doesn't even have a HDMI port on it and it still plays games just fine.

[henners88]

Personally I think Sony or Nintendo could be knocked out of the game if someone did something amazing, but I doubt it will happen.

I doubt we'll see any of the major manufacturers losing out in the short term. If Sony are at risk in your opinion, that must also extend to the xBox surely? The PS3 outsold the 360 last time around and that was even with the disadvantage of not having a head start. Sales aren't everything of course but it at least shows the loyalties in a market with only two major players (at the mo). Its not like there are manufacturers making hardware to suit an operating system and the ability to play games in a widespread sense.

Out of interest, why do you think Microsoft are in a safer position with the new release? With their tablet and mobile division struggling, I know they need this to succeed, but the PS4 from what I have read appears to have had the better publicity. That is just my general perception from articles and news pieces I have stumbled across and you may disagree.

[JasonPotato]

What you need is the Xbox games, online community/features and Xbox controller on the PS4 console. That would be the perfect console.

[henners88]

What you need is the Xbox games, online community/features and Xbox controller on the PS4 console. That would be the perfect console.

That wouldn't work for me personally, but for a wider audience perhaps. I much prefer the PlayStation controller and don't tend to play online any more. The controller I find more ergonomically pleasing for my tastes, although I have friends who prefer the xBox version. Each to their own. I've also never had an issue with the games as most of the games I buy are available on both consoles, in fact all of them.

[Alfa Fan]

My graphics card is so old it doesn't even have a HDMI port on it and it still plays games just fine.

Well it totally depends what sort of game you play. It certainly wouldn't play any of the newer "PC-focused" titles such as Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite, Far Cry 3 or Crysis 3 to any decent standard that's for sure.

[BleAivano]

Well it totally depends what sort of game you play. It certainly wouldn't play any of the newer "PC-focused" titles such as Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite, Far Cry 3 or Crysis 3 to any decent standard that's for sure.

sure it would. perhaps not with maxed graphics but it would play,

[CaptainRaiden]

Well it totally depends what sort of game you play. It certainly wouldn't play any of the newer "PC-focused" titles such as Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite, Far Cry 3 or Crysis 3 to any decent standard that's for sure.

Agree with Bleaivano there. My card is only slightly newer than Daniel's, a Radeon HD 4870 1 GB DDR5, from late 2008 I believe, has an HDMI port and plays all the games you mentioned fine at around medium to high detail. There is some FPS drop and little choppiness if you go to very high or ultra settings, but that's no worry.

In fact I can play some of them at 1920 X 1080 and 60 hz on my 42 inch TV, which is quite remarkable for a 5 year old card.