Nascar is losing control of Debris

[harvick#1]

this race was bad.

there should've been 2 cautions tonight (both were from wrecks)

the rest were all phantom debris which even DW questioned where the debris was. at one point Nascar sayed there was metal in turn 3 and DW basically said all he saw was rubber and tape.

plus one caution was for a floating plastic bag

Nascar is really starting to drop the ball on debris cautions and they are becoming worse and worse

[blakebeatty]

on the race broadcast i watched they showed the debris every time but two i think, and in the second you could see workers picking something up. I think that this broadcast was on FOX

[jslone]

Still a hell of a lot better then F1,Cart and some others were debris is still on the track and the officials wont do a thing about it.

[RaceFanStan]

Not all fans are against debri cautions .....
if the camera crews were on their jobs, they would see that some fans throw debri on the track .....
last race I was at I saw a fellow bounce a full can of beer off a driver's windshield .....
now that was a waste of beer IMO !

[Mark in Oshawa]

Stan, some guy did that apprently to the 24 on his lap with the "3" flag...now THAT is just stupid...wasting good beer like that is just retarded, even if you dont' like Jeff...

[jslone]

There was more then 1 F1 races I have seen in which a part of the wing or car itself was in the direct line of the driver and the officials did nothing about it,could have been Monaco but unsure.

[blakebeatty]

Not all fans are against debri cautions .....
if the camera crews were on their jobs, they would see that some fans throw debri on the track .....
last race I was at I saw a fellow bounce a full can of beer off a driver's windshield .....
now that was a waste of beer IMO !

what is so bad about bunching up the field anyway???

[Mark in Oshawa]

Debris cautions are a bit of a farce for purists who think if a guy leads by a ton, he deserves to keep it. It flies in the face of putting on a good show though according to NASCAR. I think if it wasn't so arbitrary, and artificial sometimes, it would be appreciated more.

A friend of mine was a communications marshal on a corner at the Glen one year, and the NASCAR officials told all of them that if they heard there was debris in their corner, and they didn't see it, they were NOT to come on the radio and say it wasn't there. Now you tell me why NASCAR would ask that of corner workers on a road course? We know the reason, they don't like to not have that option to bunch up the field and hide the fact that is what they are doing. Now I don't know how often they do this, and part of me could care less since I like a lot of NASCAR endings, but the stage management aspect is a little much at time isn't it?

As for f1 and debris, they throw a lot more SC laps in there now then they used to, but at least they want for a good accident. Racing with a local yellow is just fine on a road course, but I will agree you wouldn't do it in a NASCAR event on an oval.

[trumperZ06]

Hhmmm... The stealthy debis issue is heating up !!!

Tony Stewart spoke out on his radio program about the debis flags...

saying... " I can't understand how long the fans are going to let NA$CAR treat them like they're stupid... "

There you have it... directly from a cup driver, complaining about NA$CAR'S bogus debis flags.

[RaceFanStan]

what is so bad about bunching up the field anyway???

There isn't anything wrong with bunching the field, they should do it every 50 laps or so .....
it's a fact that cautions breed cautions & cautions add excitement.