DRS zones on all the 2013 tracks.

**rjbetty** · 16th March 2013, 04:00

Originally Posted by steveaki13

Seems like Garry & I are on the same page because I agree 100% and said almost exactly the same

Yeah you are on the same page. In fact your post is directly below his!

**EuroTroll** · 16th March 2013, 10:37

Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Pushing a button? Yeah, what a skill.

I was refering to all the other skills that are necessary for covering a set distance in the least amount of time. A.k.a. racing.

Originally Posted by Garry Walker

I'd rather watch races with ZERO overtaking than the DRS crapfests we have now.

That makes absolutely no sense to me, but hey: to each their own.

**steveaki13** · 16th March 2013, 12:14

Canada 2003 had a great ending.
The Williams looked on for the win from what I remember and somehow Michael got ahead and they piled up behind. Then Alonso in the renault caught them.

rjbetty am I right that Williams asked one Ralf to move over for Montoya at some point but Ralf wouldn't let him? Or was that another race?

I seem to remember a message like:

Engineer: Have a go at Michael or let Juan Pablo have a go.
Ralf: Why hes not even keeping up with me.

With your super recall you could remind me if I have got it wrong.

**wedge** · 16th March 2013, 15:22

Originally Posted by EuroTroll

I was refering to all the other skills that are necessary for covering a set distance in the least amount of time. A.k.a. racing.

Catching a driver and passing him is one thing, doing it with the aid of DRS is another.

**EuroTroll** · 16th March 2013, 18:19

Originally Posted by wedge

Catching a driver and passing him is one thing, doing it with the aid of DRS is another.

Of course. And so...?

**jens** · 16th March 2013, 19:39

Regarding solutions I can propose one thing that has come to my mind.

Less reliance on wings/downforce and more reliance on ground effects. Because ground effect doesn't affect your speed through the corners, while following another car. While as we know, cars lose downforce, when they follow other cars close in the corners.

By the way, in the late 2000's exactly the same factor was a reason, why there were many overtakes in GP2, while F1 was still quite difficult in terms of overtaking.

**rjbetty** · 17th March 2013, 04:16

Originally Posted by steveaki13

Canada 2003 had a great ending.
The Williams looked on for the win from what I remember and somehow Michael got ahead and they piled up behind. Then Alonso in the renault caught them.

rjbetty am I right that Williams asked one Ralf to move over for Montoya at some point but Ralf wouldn't let him? Or was that another race?

I seem to remember a message like:

Engineer: Have a go at Michael or let Juan Pablo have a go.
Ralf: Why hes not even keeping up with me.

With your super recall you could remind me if I have got it wrong.

I can't remember hearing about that. I do remember people saying they would have like Montoya to have a go as they felt he would make moe effort in trying to get past Micael, but I never remember hearing if Ralf's engineer ever said it. Alonso did get fastest lap though IIRC.

17th March 2013, 05:07

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**call_me_andrew** · 17th March 2013, 05:19

Letting drivers control the wings is a noble idea, but limiting it to a few "zones" makes it a gimmick.

Originally Posted by steveaki13

Here is the battle I talked about. Albeit only the final 3 laps of it before it ended in tears. DRS would have seen them all pass Montoya before it got to this point and the field would have spread out.

As soon as Schumacher got ahead of Montoya, Montoya could have turned on his DRS and passed Schumacher.