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9th March 2013, 21:11 #11
Well, since you put it that way... I've changed my mind!
"Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith
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10th March 2013, 12:11 #12
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
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10th March 2013, 15:47 #13
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Originally Posted by Knock-on
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10th March 2013, 16:20 #14
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Originally Posted by BDunnell
Look at the legal suits being filed by the oil co's on 'anti competition' towards Tesla operating an electric recharging network.
If politician's were uncorruptable, then there would be a very serious move to deal with the mess and stop using the 2nd amendment chestnut.
Money money money............Opinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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10th March 2013, 17:24 #15Originally Posted by Knock-on
Although I see these incidents as extremely tragic when they happen, the truth is, they do not happen all that often. And these knee-jerk, hastily thought out "solutions" don't seem to be very sound, IMO. So rather than devote people with actual police, paramilitary or SWAT training on these properties, some would turn loose a teacher, who is probably not emotionally prepared to deal with an armed combat confrontation, to deal with a combat/hostage situation. I'm not saying it would always end in tragedy. There may be that time when the teacher would handle it very well. But the risk is simply too high that this untrained individual would make a bad situation worse. There is also the question of securing the firearm throughout the day and still have it in a place where it is readily accessible. A firearm that you can't get to or (especially) one in the wrong hands is even worse than no firearm at all.
Over the years, I've had extensive firearms training. The person who taught me to shoot was a former military member, who was a cop and who went on to be in a Federal SWAT unit. And at least when I used to shoot a lot, I was a very good shot, with both pistols and rifles. And not to toot my own horn, but I'm generally not a person who scares easily or gets emotional at the drop of a hat. But none of that means that you'd want me wandering around the halls of a school, watching over your kiddies with my Glock on my hip. Compared to the average teacher, yeah, you'd probably want me. But in truth, you'd be better off without either one of us packin' heat in the local elementary school. If the problem is actually that real and that serious, then these people need to cough up the money and hire real deal security. All those guys coming back from the Middle East who can't find work... well, the ones who are emotionally sound and stable... hire some of them! Let teachers teach. Hopefully, that's what they do best."Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith
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10th March 2013, 19:50 #16
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10th March 2013, 22:03 #17
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How long would it take for some students to work out how to devise a plan to steal the guns from their teachers?
If you had a student with a grudge against other students, then it gives them a nice opportunity to work out how to take them all out.
What happens if said teacher just flips out one day? They already have to work in a stressful environment with 20 or more sprogs. Letting them take a gun to school could help them to even out those numbers.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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10th March 2013, 23:17 #18
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Originally Posted by Rollo
It seems those who favour the guns approach fail to see this staring them in the face.I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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10th March 2013, 23:30 #19
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Originally Posted by Rollo
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11th March 2013, 00:00 #20
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There are two sides to the coin, but most won't admit that and state only their side of the coin.
Downsides are making sure proper training, background checks, psychological tests, etc are as close as possible to being failsafe. Otherwise you have allowed a person to carry a weapon into a school.
But done properly such as with cops, is any idiot going to go into a school knowing how many armed people they might face? When has a nutter gone to a police station, military barracks or other more likely to be armed location and started shooting it up... and did the damage done against unarmed people?
Think about it.
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