New controversy

[mstillhere]

The article = BBC Sport - Formula 1 gossip and rumours from international media - claims that McLaren's front wing rotates around the horizontal axis using only two bolts for attaching the blade to the nose cone. This modifies the standardized mid profile of the wing to generate less up force. Red Bull is supposed to have noticed the trick and copied it immediately for Japan but now Ferrari have set the FiA on their trail to come up with a new load test for Japan. It is expected that the loop hole will be plugged for the week end. Although the FIA has not taken any official stands it seems that in Japan there would some special tests focusing on the front wing.

It looks like Ferrari can't really win this championship playing fairly. MAybe they shouls also start breaking the rules like thei main competitors.

Before it was RB getting caught cheating in several different ways and now (it seems) ML.

I don't find it surprising I must say, that RB did not complain about it (if true) but rather copied the idea so that could be back into "winning" races but I do find puzzling seing ML breaking the rules so blatantly (again if confirmed).

Who knows, could this be another reason why LH left ML?

[mstillhere]

An other link: McLaren downplays potential FIA flexi wing clampdown - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Check this out: "I think the regulations require the wings to be rigid, but of course no wing or aerodynamic surface is infinitely rigid".

Actually beleive it or not this not coming from Hornes, although it sounds like something he would say. It's actually coming directly from Whitmarsh's mouth.

[ShiftingGears]

I don't believe for a second that you were complaining when Ferrari had flexing floors at the start of the 2006 season. Whitmarsh is correct in stating that no wing is infinitely rigid - that is just a fact of materials science.

The FIA deems an acceptable level of rigidity required by the wings by enforcing that criteria of rigidity tests are met.

Or in other words, whether a wing is "rigid" or not is defined by whether teams pass the test. That is completely fair.

[Donney]

Let the FIA test the wings and give us an answer. If they're legal good for them, if they're not, back to the original ones.

[nigelred5]

Ferrari has done plenty of exploroation of the limits of the technical regulations over hte years. Unless you lock down the specs at the start of the season, which I never want to see, teams will always test the limits. They only test the flex if the wing itself in the vertical plane, there is always another way to stall the wing.

[kfzmeister]

Red Bull is supposed to have noticed the trick and copied it immediately for Japan

I have read reports that they already had it in Singapore. People noticed that they had a longer nose with the new wing.

[Tazio]

This new test should ensure that any attempt by teams to utilise the rotating wing principle would be exposed.

AUTOSPORT understands that all teams passed the tests that were conducted at Suzuka.

However, it is unclear whether or not modifications had been made from previous designs that some teams had been running, as the outfits were pre-warned about the new tests.

FIA moves to stop flexi wing potential - Yahoo! Eurosport UK

We are going to have to wait a little longer for a definitive answer of whether McLaren, and or RB tested their existing or a new FW.

[mstillhere]

FIA moves to stop flexi wing potential - Yahoo! Eurosport UK

We are going to have to wait a little longer for a definitive answer of whether McLaren, and or RB tested their existing or a new FW.

I love the fact that the FIA gives the teams to be inspected heads up. I whish the IRS would do the same with me and tell me if and when are they planning to come to my office and go through my taxes stuff.

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SomersF1: The Flexi Front Wing debacle continues

[mstillhere]

If i am correct, this article is not excluding at all that actually both ML and RB did that. I loved teh technicale explanation yet I did not see any mention to that fact that it is against the rules having your wings moving.

Since now it seems that no team was founnf in contravention of the rules (with the FIA once again unable to prevent teams from cheating) I wonder if and how these two teams would be impacted at their race in Japan.

If they are going to strugle, that would be a clear indication that they both won or score points irregularly wich would be what? The fourth time for RB?

They both should be stripped of their points or victory.

for those of you talking about what happened with Ferrari 2o years ago, I think thay have been dealt with already.

We are moving on and focus on the new cheaters.