Grosjean banned; who will step in?

[N4D13]

Be interesting to see how Ambrosio does if he gets a drive in a decent car, rather than a slow Virgin.

I wouldn't expect him to do much - he'll be racing on a car he hasn't driven yet at an actual racetrack (or so I think), and we'll have Kimi as a benchmark. It's not like he's facing a brilliant prospect - but, of course, it's better than not driving at all.

Edit: well, he drove the car on the Mugello test - that's something. But still, considering he hasn't raced for almost a year, it would be a surprised if he managed to deliver a good performance.

[tfp]

Thats a harsh penalty if you ask me, but if the drivers are going to pull moves like he did then he needs to be made an example of. Totally out of order.
And this is a driver who I am usually full of praise for. That says a lot.

[Nem14]

Alonso could have died today.

Alonso could have died yesterday too. In fact, Alonso could die tomorrow.

No doubt, Alonso will die. We all do.

[Tazio]

Alonso could have died yesterday too. In fact, Alonso could die tomorrow.

No doubt, Alonso will die. We all do.

Just out of curiosity, why loose your venom on the Boatman? It's been 18 years since F1's last fatality, a streak I'd like to see continue until after I have a natural death. Is it that you harbor ill will toward Alonso, or are you an aspiring Existentialist?

[TheFamousEccles]

^ I think its the latter, Doc. She/he is right, you know but I digress.

It says on the back of every ticket I've bought to enter a motor-racing venue "Motor racing is dangerous.." I don't wish to see any fatalities, and given the nature of the accident, there surely would have been some serious injury in a similar scenario even 10 years ago. Safety has come a long way.

[Robinho]

I think I probably agree with the penalty, but not the consistency. If that deserved a race ban, then IMO Maldanado should have missed 2 or 3 races over the last year and a half. Is it a consequence of the points on the licence for incidents, after all he has had a number of 1st lap incidents which stewards may have deemed point worthy

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[truefan72]

I think I probably agree with the penalty, but not the consistency. If that deserved a race ban, then IMO Maldanado should have missed 2 or 3 races over the last year and a half. Is it a consequence of the points on the licence for incidents, after all he has had a number of 1st lap incidents which stewards may have deemed point worthy

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to me it was the resulting carnage and the repeated problems at the start of the races that merited the one race ban
Maldonado is a bonehead for sure, but his problems and incidents are a bit different that what grosjean did

I too think Maldonado needs to sit for a race, but not in context to Grosjean's problems which are different
Yes, maldonado is stupid , and gets hot in the collar resulting in stupid incidents time and time again, but don't have the same potential to cause this type of carnage, safet car, possible serious injury, etc, as a driver incapable of judging his speed and position coming into the first corner of the start of the race. Simply put, the FIA have no faith that Grosjean won't create another disaster at the first corner of Monza, and anything short of a race ban will not change his habits or decision making. Somebody needs to tell him that its a 50+ lap race and not a sprint to the first corner

What is interesting is the quagmire for the teams with these 2 driver
Both are lightning quick, both have a good car under them, both can and should finish fairly high in the points at every race, but both consistently are their own worst enemy, often costing the team valuable points. so I'm not sure if it is better for the team to get a driver like senna who on his best day will get you p7-10 but hardly wreck the car, or a guy who could give you a race win and podiums, but just as likely to wreck the car

[CNR]

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The most memorable was a two-race suspension imposed on Michael Schumacher in 1994 with Benetton - the same team that became Renault and is now Lotus - for ignoring black warning flags

[inimitablestoo]

I did wonder if, in part, this ban came about because virtually every race at Spa this weekend featured some kind of monumental crash. The FIA needed to be seen to be doing something, when normally it would probably have imposed the standard 10-place grid drop.

As for reserves, it's difficult to see anyone other than d'Ambrosio getting the drive, especially since Monza is only a few days away. There's a certain irony in that, of course, as Grosjean came back to GP2 in 2010 initially as a one-off replacement for d'Ambrosio, to give DAMS something of a more reliable benchmark.

[zako85]

A just decision.


Grosjean was reckless and in this accident knocked more drivers out of the race than Maldonado in the whole year, and for no good reason. Despite of this, some people here once again try to convert this thread into a Maldonado bashing discussion. I am sorry guys buy you need to open your eyes a little. Maldonado may not be the smartest driver, and I am not a fan of his style, but in his crashes with Hamilton and Peres, both other drivers were equally or almost equally to blame as him. This specially applies to his crash with Hamilton. Both were acting stupid, yet within the rules IMO. But Grosjean squeezing Hamilton at the very start, and then crashing with him and taking out Alonso as well before coming to first corner was very dangerous and completely unacceptable.