Apple triumphs over Samsung, awarded over $1 billion damages

[Dave B]

No they didn't. Samsung won over Apple in South Korea earlier on the week.

Quite expected. Apple manipulates the evidences and the American court looks the other way.

Samsung won in Seoul, Apple won in California. It's almost as if there's an inherent bias in the system towards the home team....

[donKey jote]

... so Apple might win in the UK and Samsung in (the rest of) Europe ...

[tfp]

1 billion dollars or something? Does apple really need all that money? They should give it to charity or something.

[race aficionado]

Or to me or something.

[ioan]

No they didn't. Samsung won over Apple in South Korea earlier on the week.
Samsung wins Korean battle in Apple patent war - Business - CBC News
S. Korea court awards wins to Samsung, Apple | ZDNet


Quite expected. Apple manipulates the evidences and the American court looks the other way.

Apple May Have Manipulated Evidence Against Samsung in Patent War - International Business Times
Dutch Site Finds Manipulated Evidence in Apple Samsung Filing | News | The Mac Observer
Apple files inaccurate evidence in Dutch Samsung case - ComputerworldUK.com

I think Apple will only loose from this in the end. Huge negative publicity which will benefit their rivals, after all there are a world outside the USA.

Apple is afraid of Samsung's products market recognition. They have got to the point where they know that the only way to stop Samsung gaining further market share (they already have over 30% of the smartphone market) is to try to have them stopped in funny cases which are filled in the US since the ones in Europe were overturned.

[ioan]

Where do we begin?

First, the 'manipulated evidence' you refer to is an altered aspect ratio on a single photo,

A cheat is a cheat, no matter in how many pictures.

[BleAivano]

Apple is afraid of Samsung's products market recognition. They have got to the point where they know that the only way to
stop Samsung gaining further market share (they already have over 30% of the smartphone market) is to try to have them stopped in funny cases
which are filled in the US since the ones in Europe were overturned.

A cheat is a cheat, no matter in how many pictures.

yeah i agree.

As i said before, i however think that this strategy eventually will backfire.

Imo if Apple really wants to challenge Samsung/Android they need to start produce a wider range of phones and surf pads.
Which i think is why Android have such a large part of the smart phone market at the moment.

A wide range of phones from smaller cheaper more simple phones to the flagships like Sm.S3 and HOX.

[Malbec]

A cheat is a cheat, no matter in how many pictures.

More likely a genuine human error.

I find it laughable that people believe that in such a high profile case, one side would deliberately falsify evidence in such a simple way that would be blown as soon as jurors got to hold the two products side by side. They wouldn't. If anything was to be falsified it would be in such an insidious way that the opposing legal team and engineers would have difficulty spotting it, not be obvious to a five year old.

Also I don't think this will affect Apple or Samsung's images among consumers, apart from geeks few people know or care about these cases. This case is just one of many, Apple won this one but they won't win them all. I think most unbiased intelligent observers will be able to realise that they are all as bad as each other, engaging in a silly timewasting tactic to knock sales off each other.

[Malbec]

Imo if Apple really wants to challenge Samsung/Android they need to start produce a wider range of phones and surf pads.
Which i think is why Android have such a large part of the smart phone market at the moment.

A wide range of phones from smaller cheaper more simple phones to the flagships like Sm.S3 and HOX.

I'd be interested to find out why Apple don't do this.

Premium brands in other markets have been able to extend their reach downwards without harming their brand image, Mercedes and its A and B classes is a good example.

Maybe its because Apple think it will take sales away from their high end iPhones as people would just buy the cheapest ones they could get, after all most smartphone customers don't come close to using the full potential of their kit and wouldn't appreciate the hardware difference.

[BleAivano]

I'd be interested to find out why Apple don't do this.

Premium brands in other markets have been able to extend their reach downwards without harming their brand image, Mercedes and its A and B classes is a good example.

Maybe its because Apple think it will take sales away from their high end iPhones as people would just buy the cheapest ones they could get,
after all most smartphone customers don't come close to using the full potential of their kit and wouldn't appreciate the hardware difference.

Of course a valid concern/question however. Imo some poeple will always want the top model.
The S3 and HOX are selling good despite that cheaper options are available.

Also many cannot afford to spend 500-600 US dollars on a new phone and
what do they do if they want/have to buy a new a new phone??

They have to buy a non-iphone and thus Apple is giving away market shares to competitors.

Apple could at least offer one lite version of the new ip5.
I wouldn't buy it but perhaps they could prevent people from buying/getting used to i.e. Android phones.

conclusion is that its better to sell a cheap phone to the customers then not selling a phone at all.