Development of a S1600 4WD RallyCar for 2013

[Sulland]

Since we dont know the full tech spec of the class yet it is for most of us hard to say 100%. But from what we do know, this class will be a R3T with standardized all wheel drive, and bigger restrictor, maybe 32mm.

[navtheace]

So it's basically very similar to current World Rally Car but no bodywork flaring of arches etc?

[Mirek]

It has four wheels, so yes, it is similar...

[navtheace]

If this category is not to be the top category the works teams will also enter in.

Then it will just become another 'forgotton' class in the WRC as the works cars will be way faster and many of the rich privateers will not bother.

Just like R4 now.

The only way this category can be a success is making it the top level class, just like GpA as A8 was before world rally car class came in.

[Mirek]

If this category is not to be the top category the works teams will also enter in.

Then it will just become another 'forgotton' class in the WRC as the works cars will be way faster and many of the rich privateers will not bother.

Just like R4 now.

The only way this category can be a success is making it the top level class, just like GpA as A8 was before world rally car class came in.

Your post doesn't make any sense. Sorry.

[mousti]

If this category is not to be the top category the works teams will also enter in.

Then it will just become another 'forgotton' class in the WRC as the works cars will be way faster and many of the rich privateers will not bother.

Just like R4 now.

The only way this category can be a success is making it the top level class, just like GpA as A8 was before world rally car class came in.

Yeah that's why there are 300 S2000 have been sold over a couple of years..

[navtheace]

300 is not a lot for the last couple of years. Divide 300 across 20 countries for example and that gives 15 per country over two years.

Compare that to GpA and GpN days of rally car sales.

[Mirek]

You're still living in Your dreams about gr.A times coming back and still repeat same biased views. Wake up, it will never happen even if You somehow manage to fire whole FIA and make Your own rules.

Don't be so naive. It's profit which drives the car makers. No way they could make anything more than huge loss from new gr.A cars now. Current leading marketing tool based on various politic decisions say You must be green in these days. Some decade a go it was the safety which moved all on another rail. Let's see what comes in future but for sure now it's not the time for anything like gr.A. Those times ended two decades back and are nothing but dead now.

[Rally Power]

300 is not a lot for the last couple of years.
Compare that to GpA and GpN days of rally car sales.

Apart the Escort, and the endless Integrale updates, Gr.A top cars in national championships were factory made, usually ex wc cars converted to customers specs. I doubt any make has achieved in those days the 207 S2000 production figures.
R4T is a logical and desirable solution to less moneyed national championships, in witch WRC cars, even in RCC form, are unreachable. Even for FIA's regional championships R4T makes a lot of sense, and the SWRT should also be R4T limited in a near future.
If FIA want's R4T to be a national/regional success and even become a wealthy WRC support category, they really need to put aside N4, R4, S2000 and RCC in order to clarify rally regulamentations and boost this new category.

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I would also say that there is a lot of difference between current wrc cars and r4t.
for example: the engine. if we say that there will be a 32mm restrictor in r4t, it means that this are engines that are going to last longer than current s2000 atmospheric engines. s2000 engines need much much money to be revised after short use on ss. and the same thing in comparison from r4t with 1.6L turbo wrc engines. r4t is going to be a "cheap" car and I am sure there will be many cars sold. as mirek sayed already before, that is the motive for manufacturers to create such a car.