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15th January 2012, 09:40 #1
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The potential of manufacturers at this point?
I guess it's finally fair to say that we won't be seeing Saab in WRC
But does folks here know how different manufacturers or groups are doing financially these days?? Back in the late 80's and throughout the 90's we had a strong representation japanese manufacturers. Now we have none. And how about the newer brands? I gues VAG and PSA are doing pretty well in the market but that's all I know.
It would be interesting to know more and speculate which manufacturers have at least the potential to join in WRC. And if there's a thread already, just merge thisAnother Flying Finn
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15th January 2012, 11:11 #2
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the only true potential manufacturer is subaru i think....
and of course FIAT which enters the WRC "next year" for the last 20 years....
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15th January 2012, 11:23 #3
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Good question AFF!!
As you say, lots of Manufacturers are part of a 'group', i;e VW Group, which has VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat, Bugatti, Lamborghini, et al
Nissan-Renault are another.
It's sad that none of the Japanese are involved or are showing much interest. In fact they seem to be committed to the new WEC. Nissan, Honda, Toyota all have/ will have programmes running. As a Sportscar fan, this is great news, but as a WRC fan, it's not good news - these Manufacturers would be a huge plus to the WRC.
I honestly don't know who else could join - Kia?? Hyundai??
I would love to see FIAT, GMEurope and a Japanese Manufacturer all join - but that is not going to happen. Fiat/GM are still 'in the soup' financially.
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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15th January 2012, 11:34 #4
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WRC with promotion must be very stable and strong. Also economic climate is still very bad. Sport needs more manufacturers.
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15th January 2012, 11:56 #5
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I wouldn't be surprised to see an Asian manufacturer joining WRC in few years time, but let's hope current one's will still be there.
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15th January 2012, 11:56 #6
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I think that with some rounds in Asia in the future, we might see some Asian manufacturer in nearfuture. As we see Great Wall in the Dakar as the only official manufacturer right now. And TV is very important indeed. They said that their Mini Dakar car costs around 900 000 EUR and how many Minis can you see on the startline... that number 5! And there is no full manufacturer support behind those teams.
As for European manufacturers, I think that Reanult-Nissan-Dacia-Lada group might be the possibility.
Edit: Exatly on the same minute we are posting on Asian manufacturers :-)Colins Crest = Möldri Mätas
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15th January 2012, 14:32 #7
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I guess the asian manufacturers may want to stay in APRC
Although they would be welcomed into WRC with open arms nonetheless!
It would be nice to see Subaru back (Especially for me, seeing as though I own one) and I guess at least they havent gone down the "green" hippy route that Mistubishi have!
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15th January 2012, 21:27 #8
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For me I think any future manufacturer participation will be based on the calendar. If the owners of WRC want to include the world outside the Eurozone they need to have at least 16 events. Including countries in the emerging new world. This would be necessary for companies like KIA/Hyundai to enter their Rio as they would want expose outside Europe; although that zone is important to them.
Interestingly before Prodrive chose the mini, I read a AutoCar rumor that they had also considered Range Rover.
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15th January 2012, 21:31 #9
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Originally Posted by Plan9
If you are too young then ok it is nice that you are involved with the sport...
but otherwise your assumptions are just random things without any thought behind it...
In the past we had mitsubishi and subaru and toyota involved and the calendar was pretty much Europe based...
where did you hear the range rover rumour ?? try and ignore the voices in your head....
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15th January 2012, 22:52 #10
Originally Posted by tfp
Of course the main factors in attracting more manufacturers is getting the sport at a level where it is properly popular again. If the viewers aren't there then it's not worth the investment.You're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.
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