Quote Originally Posted by Malbec
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Pope is a Catholic preaching to Catholics.

He is right to assume that practicing Catholics adhere to Catholic principles including abstaining from pre-marital sex etc. In that context can you please tell me what relevance condom use has for a couple who are faithful to each other for life as Catholic teachings prescribe in preventing HIV spread?

You're approaching his attitude towards condoms from a non-Catholic standpoint trying to apply it to lifestyles that are completely at odds with what the Pope preaches. You're right that condoms are essential for preventing all sorts of conditions in people who do sleep around, but then again they won't be Catholics by definition would they.

This whole thing about HIV, condoms and the Pope is incredibly poorly thought through. There are plenty of other awful issues over which to criticise the Catholic Church over but HIV is one subject where the arguments used to damn the Pope reflect poorly on those who criticise him.
And what about his wicked lie that condoms increase the risk of catching HIV?

If the Catholic Church is right about the issue then why did the Pope change his mind last year?


Quote Originally Posted by Malbec
And those migrants are from sub-Saharan Africa and the Indian sub-continent.

HIV is rampant in parts of the world where macho cultures persist in which men believe they can have as many partners as they want when they want, and where using protection is an affront to masculinity. That is why prostitution and rape are rife in sub-Saharan Africa and that is why HIV is so common there.

Blaming the Pope in this is largely an irrelevance. There has to be a fundamental culture shift in Africa and South Asia.

But going back to the UK, the HIV rate among the native British population has historically been and continues to be higher than in more conservative parts of the world. That is not something you can deny.
But is the reason peoples liberal attitude to sex? Or is it just a statistic that has come about because areas of Western Europe and the US coasts have societies that include more immigrants from sub-Saharan Africa?
Statistics are one-dimensional.