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12th June 2011, 23:39 #1
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So I take it we don't need wet tyres anymore in F1
If todays race is anything to go by anything past intermediate conditions is now safety car territory.
We may as well throw out wet tyres, they aren't needed and if it is too bad we'll throw out the safety car until such time as wets are no longer needed and we go back onto intermediates.
What are your opinions on this?
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12th June 2011, 23:41 #2
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Did you not see the spray?
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12th June 2011, 23:56 #3
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There was alot of water after the red flag and full wets were the right tyres, I think the drivers were being cautious and everyone was caught out at how quick the track dried. Who would have thought slicks would be in use after 55 odd laps when at lap 25, the track was a river.
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12th June 2011, 23:58 #4
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I saw the spray but by the time the safety car went in it was dry enough for intermediates, that's my point. It should have come in sooner. No point in having wet tyres if it will always be too wet to use them before it is safe to race.
I long for the days of Donnington 93, Spain 96, Spa 98, Monza 97, Estoril 85 where they were told get out there and race, and no pussy footing crap.
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13th June 2011, 00:07 #5
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I bet you long for Imola 94 too
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13th June 2011, 00:11 #6
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Originally Posted by Daniel
There is safety but they are the best drivers in the world. They should be able to drive in wet conditions. If they can't then the level of competition in F1 is simply very poor now compared to ten years ago.
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13th June 2011, 00:12 #7
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Originally Posted by Daniel
Thats being a bit unreasonable.I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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13th June 2011, 00:17 #8
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Originally Posted by aki13
However, cars lapping to the point of intermediates is simply ridiculous.
Also, making the cars start under the safety car is ridiculous.
Other than that I thought the stewards had a fine day in the office.
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13th June 2011, 01:06 #9
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I think that the reason to suspend the race had nothing to do with spray but free standing water.
On the run from turns 8 & 9 to L'Epingle (the hairpin) and back up Casino Straight, during the stoppage there were crews with shovels and ploughs scooping the water off the track.
F1 cars do not have a specified minimum ride height (though it might be implied by the skid blocks under the car), this means that they run very close to the ground indeed. If the water was sufficiently deep enough, then instead of just the wheels aquaplaning, the whole underside of the car would act as a giant aquaplaning thing with a couple of fins underneath.
That's all fine but the drivers are paid to drive cars, not ill-handling boats.
Charlie Whiting would have been talking to Bernd Maylander and the racing drivers, so this was more of a consensus thing than you probably expect.
I think that the stewards made the right call.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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13th June 2011, 06:25 #10
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The way the FIA pussy footed around yesterday was embarassing. These are supposedly the best drivers in he world. Supposedly. I don't give a flying fu@k if they need to convert their cars to row boats to race, just race dammit and drive according to the conditions just like we all have to do when it rains.
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