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1st January 2011, 06:34 #1
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What makes a person a citizen
of your country where ever it may be. Is it given to you when you are born in a particular place or does it depend on who your parents are.
Six States in the US are trying to have laws passed that would not grant legal status to the children of illegal aliens. In other words, the child is also illegal even though born in America.
I know that in certain European countries (EU) that there is a law that allows the child status but not the parents.
I can see this working but not alienating a child born in a country. What defines citizenship could arbitrarily change every couple of years.
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1st January 2011, 10:23 #2
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I beleive in the UK a child is only a citizen if one of it's parents are. An Indian friend of mine his daughter was born in the UK but this didn't entitle her to a UK passport. Whereas his son was born in the USA which did entitle him to a US passport.
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1st January 2011, 10:42 #3
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I think in Finland you inherit it from your parents.
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I think it is the same here, although with the arrival of many immigrants from African countries on boats has introduced some changes. I am not entirely sure.
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1st January 2011, 13:08 #6
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1st January 2011, 13:54 #7
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As of January 1 (in the year of our lord
) 2011
Children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents are entitled to birthright citizenship via the 14th Amendment, A birth certificate (a.k.a Certificate of Live Birth for children born in certain states) issued by a U.S. state or territorial government is evidence of citizenship, and is usually accepted as proof of citizenship.
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person becomes a citizen of the United States at the time of birth, by virtue of the first clause of the 14th amendment of the Constitution, if that person is:
Born in the United States
Has parents that are subjects of a foreign power, but not in any diplomatic or official capacity of that foreign power
Has parents that have permanent domicile and residence in the United States
Has parents that are in the United States for business
[edit] Through birth abroad to two United States citizensSee also: jus sanguinis
A child is automatically granted citizenship in the following cases:
1.Both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of the child's birth
2.At least one parent lived in the United States prior to the child's birth. INA 301(c) and INA 301(a)(3) state, "and one of whom has had a residence."
The FAM (Foreign Affairs Manual) states "no amount of time specified."
A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of citizenship. They may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have their citizenship recognized.
Through birth abroad to one United States citizen A person born on or after November 14, 1986, is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:[7]
1.One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person in question was born
2.The citizen parent lived at least five years in the United States before the child's birth
3.A minimum of two of these five years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday.
INA 301(g) makes additional provisions to satisfy the physical-presence requirements for periods citizens spent abroad in “honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization”. Additionally citizens who spent time living abroad as the “dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person” in any of the previously mentioned organizations can also be counted.
A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of citizenship. Such a person may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have a record of citizenship. Such documentation is often useful to prove citizenship in lieu of the availability of an American birth certificate.
Different rules apply for persons born abroad to one U.S. citizen before November 14, 1986. United States law on this subject changed multiple times throughout the twentieth century, and the law is applicable as it existed at the time of the individual's birth.
For persons born between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true [7]:
1.One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person in question was born
2.The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child's birth;
3.A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday.
[edit] Naturalization
A judge swears in a new citizen. New York, 1910A person who was not born a U.S. citizen may acquire U.S. citizenship through a process known as naturalization.
Eligibility for naturalizationTo become a naturalized United States citizen, one must be at least eighteen years of age at the time of filing, a legal permanent resident of the United States, and have had a status of a legal permanent resident in the United States for five years less 90 days before they apply (this requirement is reduced to three years less 90 days if they (a) acquired legal permanent resident status, (b) have been married to and living with a citizen for the past three years and (c) the spouse has been a U.S. citizen for at least three years prior to the applicant applying for naturalization.) They must have been physically present for at least 30 months of 60 months prior to the date of filing their application. Also during those 60 months if the legal permanent resident was outside of the U.S. for a continuous period of 6 months or more they are disqualified from naturalizing (certain exceptions apply for those continuous periods of six months to 1 year). They must be a "person of good moral character", and must pass a test on United States history and government[8][9] Most applicants must also have a working knowledge of the English language.[8] There are exceptions, introduced in 1990, for long-resident older applicants and those with mental or physical disabilities.[10][11] This requirement for an ability to read, write, and speak English is not regarded[who?] as too difficult, since the test requires that applicants read and write in English.May the forza be with you
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Originally Posted by Mark
Also, the laws had changed so now even though I was a british citizen it did not mean that my colombian wife got automatic British citizenship not did my children.
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