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19th June 2010, 01:31 #1Senior Member
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Obama to sue Arizona for being stupid enuff to think illegal means illegal
seems our beloved president may sue arizona for being stupid enough to think illegal means illegal and then enacting laws accordingly....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/18/us....ex.html?hpt=T1
and since Hillary says it is so, then so it must be
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...x2vM45Lc&pos=9
who said only palin was stupid????
and now eki will say, Obama should also sue Israel for letting jews into Israel, but not illegal immigrantsOnly the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:
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19th June 2010, 03:47 #2Senior Member
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The man is dangerously arrogant and incompetent.
A cheap Chicago thug politician is one thing, but a arrogant incompetent cheap
Chicago thug politician is what we have for a president.
Jimmy Carter is probably smiling as no matter how bad he looked, he was better than Obama.
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19th June 2010, 06:02 #3Senior Member
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Par for the course. They give lip service on what Obama is supposed to do in the future, and sue the people trying to get it done now. And it seems as though the majority of the objection is that the AZ law will "allow" possible discrimination. Every law allows "possible" discrimination, yet it has to actually take place to cause an issue.
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19th June 2010, 10:01 #4Senior Member
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Can states have immigration laws different from federal immigration laws? How about different foreign policy? Oh wait, sure they can. They are different countries, just ask Bob.
I could really use a fish right now
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19th June 2010, 15:32 #5Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Obama to Biden - "Let the Welfare checks rain upon the Earth - I am going to a barbecue"
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19th June 2010, 18:23 #6Senior Member
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Okay, well the last several administrations are guilty of not addressing this issue, and because of the drug war/war on terrorism, now all of a sudden, it has become of a hot button issue. And rightly so for us border states.
Originally Posted by markabilly
The thing that gets me about Obama's reaction on this, is that it appears he is more willing to use some sort of compromise manners with other nations, but not when it comes to Arizona on this urgent issue.FIDO - Forget It, Drive On
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19th June 2010, 18:26 #7Senior Member
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It isn't an immigration law Eki. That is just it. The States are in charge of enforcing the federal law, in that if a State in their course of their law enforcement come across illegals, they are duty bound to hand them to federal authorities to deport them to their country of origin. What Arizona is doing is just asking people to provide proof of citizenship. THAT's it. Now it sounds draconian, but think about this: Any time you open up a bank account, get a driver's license, or deal with government, you actually have to show proof of your citizenship. I have to get a passport renewed in the next year. You think for one second I am not showing up with a valid birth certificate?
Originally Posted by Eki
What is happening is Arizona is going to just ask for this proof of citizenship with every interaction with the public when law enforcement deals with them. If they pull you over, they want proof you are who you say you are. Illegals often have some rudimentry paperwork that hides their status, but it wont be enough. The reality is illegal immigrants have swamped the US social services to the point of breaking. The number of hospitals in Southern California that have been pushed into financial insolvencey through illegals being treated there (no hospital can deny emergency care) without coverage is just one strain.
What is going on in Arizona sounds draconian to the likes of Obama, who thinks if he speaks long enough, everyone will agree with him. Never mind he isn't right, and never mind the states like Arizona wouldn't be doing things like this if the US federal gov't was good at anything but collecting taxes."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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19th June 2010, 21:41 #8Senior Member
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[quote="Eki"]Can states have immigration laws different from federal immigration laws? How about different foreign policy? Oh wait, sure they can. They are different countries, just ask B
Each State has a Constitution, but the U.S. Constitution trumps those where they over-lap.
You are babbling again Eki, didn't you get your daily dose of the wiki?
There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution saying Arizona cannot do what it is doing, or in any Fed. law.
Obama is just showing he is a self-righteous, self-centerd, incompetent twit.
The previous administrations were no better, but then they did not go to court to protect illegal aliens.
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19th June 2010, 21:51 #9Senior Member
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You're just saying that because he's black and a democrat. And you call me an anti-Semite and an anti-American. Hypocrite, as Bob would say.
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
I could really use a fish right now
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19th June 2010, 22:08 #10Senior Member
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I read that the Finnish immigrants in the US were discriminated against, so I can identify with the black and the brown:
http://rs6.loc.gov:8081/learn/featur...dinavian5.html
Finns faced greater challenges than many of the Scandinavian immigrants that preceded them. The Finnish language is radically different from all other European languages, and Finnish-speaking immigrants had greater difficulty learning English than those who spoke Swedish or Norwegian. As a result, many Finnish immigrants were relegated to low-paying unskilled jobs that did not require English-language skills, such as factory work and manual labor. At the same time, the decades of high Finnish immigration coincided with a period of increased public hostility towards immigrants, and Finns were often subjected to discrimination in housing and jobs, as well as public insults and physical attacks.I could really use a fish right now


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