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17th March 2010, 11:55 #1Senior Member
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If Simona can do it, why can't Graham, Buddy, PT, and J.R. ???
OK, here it is the start of a brand new season and we have the same old problem of talented drivers sitting on the sidelines while no talent hacks with personal sponsors have coveted IICS drives.
But then along comes Simona de Silvestro, AKA Swiss Miss, who basically burst upon the open wheel scene with a hugely impressive run in the 2009 Atlantics with 4 dominant wins, 4 pole positions, and 9 podium finishes. Clearly she is no hack. Clearly she has the proven talent to compete and to position herself as one of the up and coming stars of IndyCar, very similar to Graham's pre IICS resume'.
But unlike Graham, Simona has managed to land a ride, all be it not a top tier ride, with Keith Wiggins and HVM Racing. With the backing of Stargate Worlds game software company, she is poised to compete, and compete well, in the 2010 IICS Championship. She proved this in her first outing by leading 5 laps and holding off 2 time IndyCar Champion, Dario Franchitti during those laps. She competed well until rear suspension problems forced her to the back of the pack.
So the question is why can someone like Simona de Silvestro land a funded IICS ride while equally talented drivers like Hildebrand, Edwards, Rice, Rahal, Tracy, etc sit on the sidelines ?
From what I have been able to research, Simona brings the backing of Stargate Worlds, a computer gaming program still in its developmental stages. It's unclear how much money Stargate Worlds brings to the table because, reportedly, their Atlantics involvement provided no up front cash to the 2 car team of Muniz and de Silvestro. However, Stargate Worlds two main developers, Imran Safiulla and Shane Seneviratne are avid open wheel racing enthusiasts who may be bringing personal funds to the HVM/Stargate Worlds effort.
This is what Graham et, al need to find. They need to present their cases to companies and individuals who have the same passion for autosport that the Stargate Worlds principals posses. They are out there.
It's no longer just a matter of being a talented driver, it comes down to being marketable as well. And I think all it will take for these drivers to come up with funding is a lot of legwork and networking by themselves and their management teams.
Let's do a quick breakdown of each driver and how their ride is funded. (speculation)
Andretti Motorsport
Tony Kanaan - funded with team sponsors, limited personal sponsors
Marco Andretti - funded with team sponsors, family ties
Danica Patrick - funded with team sponsors, massive personal sponsors
Ryan Hunter-Reay - funded with limited personal sponsors
Target Chip Ganassi Racing
Dario Franchitti - funded with team sponsors
Scott Dixon - funded with team sponsors
Team Penske
Helio Castroneves - funded with team sponsors
Ryan Briscoe - funded with team sponsors
Will Power - funded with team sponsors
KV Racing
Mario Moraes - funded with family funds (RIDE BUYER)
E.J. Viso - funded by Venezuelan Petroleum and family (RIDE BUYER with some talent)
Takuma Sato - funded by Honda (RIDE BUYER with talent (??))
Conquest Racing
Mario Romancini - unknown funding
Dale Coyne Racing
Alex Lloyd - funded with team sponsors
Milka Duno - funded by Venezuelan oil money (RIDE BUYER with absolutely no talent)
de Ferran/Luczo Dragon Racing
Raphael Matos - funded by team sponsors
Dreyer & Reinbold Racing
Ana Beatriz - funded by team sponsors, personal sponsors
Mike Conway - funded by team sponsors
Justin Wilson - funded by team sponsors, personal sponsors
FAZZT Race Team
Alex Tagliani - funded by team and personal sponsors
Newman/Haas/Lanigan Racing
Hideki Mutoh - funded by personal sponsors (RIDE BUYER with limited talent)
Panther Racing
Dan Wheldon - funded by team sponsors
Sarah Fisher Racing
Sarah Fisher - funded by team and personal sponsors
Jay Howard - funded by team and personal sponsors
Graham Rahal - funded by team sponsors (limited)
Stargate Worlds/HVM Racing
Simona de Silvestro - funded by team and personal sponsors
If anyone has actual facts that refute my speculations on how these drivers and teams are funded, please feel free to add them to the discussion.HOO HOO HOO HOOSIERS !
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17th March 2010, 12:00 #2Senior Member
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Hunger? Passion? Lack of chip on her shoulders making her a more attractive/viable proposition for teams
Seems to me there's too many drivers thinking they have a right to be on the grid in a top line car, when to date they've shown little to justify it.:champion: WRC3 championship, WRC4 championship, WRC4 PCWRC, WRC4 ERC
Winner - TRD2 Bathurst:burnout:
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17th March 2010, 12:03 #3Senior Member
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I think you hit the nail on the head... the culture of entitlement
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17th March 2010, 14:20 #4Senior Member
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Originally Posted by ChicagocrewIRL
1 Those other driver don't have breasts?
And they don't have someone to buy their way into the series? Or they have the goofy notion that they should actually be paid to do their job, because of what they have actually ACCOMPLISHED in Indy Cars (at least in PT, Rahal and Rice's cases)?
2. No, they need to find actual PROFESSIONAL owners that will HIRE people on merit and find money for THEIR teams. They need Indy Cars to do a complete 180, and reverse this ridiculous "sit on their ass and wait for the drivers to fund the teams" mentality that has killed the sport the past 20 years.
3. Romancini wrote a big check. NO WAY, he is in that car without one. Lloyd has money too. That is ALWAYS what Coyne looks for and why he is in the Boy Scouts of AMERICA (which is giving DCR very little real money) car. Conway's parents continue to "help" him play race driver. Howard is paying his way. Without his money, no way anyone hires him.
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17th March 2010, 14:28 #5Senior Member
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Just FYI, Conway is paying for his ride, as is Simona de Selvestro, and Mario Romancini, Helio and Ryan are being funded by Roger more than sponsors
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17th March 2010, 14:45 #6Senior Member
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Please give us more details about Conway and Simona. How are they paying for their rides and how do you know this. And please don't say it's common knowledge. LOL
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17th March 2010, 15:21 #7Senior Member
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I would guess Simona/personal backers are paying most if not all of the money. I believe the developer of the Stargate Worlds games is in bankruptcy. I really doubt they're putting up multiple millions to fund her ride.
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17th March 2010, 15:39 #8Senior Member
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Simona because Stargate Worlds is in bankruptcy and even before that they mentioned in an interview you can find in on the web somewhere that they weren't directly paying for it themselves. She's probably not paying for it herself, but as I understand it she has backers who are paying her way.
Originally Posted by ChicagocrewIRL
Conway isn't paying full freight because DR&R has some sponsorship, but he's not getting paid to drive either. As far as specifics all I can tell you is that people inside the sport have told called Conway a mid-pack ride buyer and I believe they would know, so I accept that.
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17th March 2010, 17:57 #9Senior Member
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Simona is a great talent and has demonstrated it in numerous occasions.
She has brought personal sponsorship.
B.R.M watches has been backing her for awhile
http://www.racewatches.com/Racewatches-BRM.html
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17th March 2010, 18:03 #10Senior Member
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I think hell just froze over. I actually agree with you.
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