Where have train drivers gone?

[pentti]

A couple years ago i wrote in a Finnish magazine, how you should do flick before the corners. The respond was quite hostial.Specially from Marcus Gronholm.This was surprising to me because he was driving just like I am teaching. I still not quite understand him.Was he lying so stopping other drivers not to copy or has he not analysed his driving!
Anyhow now watching Rally Norway almost every body were flicking except Kopecky,Galli(surprise here)and Stohl. Certainly Galli used to do a lot of flicks(remember videos from early days).Maybe this explains his current lack of results? I offered him free lessons but he declined some time ago.

[Donney]

I haven' seen much footage from Norway but I like to know that flicks are back from a spectator point of view it is much more pleasant to the eye, and if results are also better I can only welcome the scandinavian flick back.

It would be interesting to know why those not using it, don't want to.

[Jonte]

Interesting about Grönholm, since I especially watched him do a big flick before a lefthander. I remebered the discussions here on this forum, that is why I registrated his flick. (the end of SS4 in sweden, I also saw an onboard).

[jonkka]

[BDunnell]

Yes, I noticed that people were flicking in Norway and thought it was interesting. I seem to remember someone (I forget who) going too far on the first flick and sliding into the outside snowbank on one hairpin.

[FrankenSchwinn]

uh, could it be no active diffs and the conditions? or maybe the way the new cars have been designed?

[COD]

Some of has to do with passive diffs as FrankenSchwinn says. The car is not as agile as it was with active ones. Also conditions, specially woth lots of snow on the road like in Norway has an effect, because puttig car sideways helps reduce speed under braking as well as helps turning in (what I think is Pentti's point in flick). But I don't think we see as much flicking when they get back on gravel. And certainly the good old days of huge flicks is long gone

[pentti]

Some of has to do with passive diffs as FrankenSchwinn says. The car is not as agile as it was with active ones. Also conditions, specially woth lots of snow on the road like in Norway has an effect, because puttig car sideways helps reduce speed under braking as well as helps turning in (what I think is Pentti's point in flick). But I don't think we see as much flicking when they get back on gravel. And certainly the good old days of huge flicks is long gone

Huge flicks have gone because these silly motorbike gearboxes! You can,t skip gears any more in down shifts.

[Jonte]

What is the tecnique to do a flick in a 4WD (old gearbox)?

[JAM]

I still didn't understand what's a flick Is, when braking, putting the back of the car on the oposite side of the corner? A kind of pendulous aproach?