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	26th September 2009, 02:53 #1Senior Member  
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 He's lost it! boss warns: You're totally out of touchHe's lost it! Blast for Bernie Ecclestone as boss warns: You're totally out of touch 
 
 
 Bernie Ecclestone's reign over Formula One came under unprecedented attack when one of the few men who could be described as his boss denounced him as being ‘totally out of touch’.
 
 Sir Martin Sorrell, who serves on the board of CVC Capital Partners, the private equity
 firm which owns F1’s commercial rights, criticised Ecclestone for advising Flavio Briatore to appeal against his lifetime ban from the sport.
 
 
 On Monday, Ecclestone was a crucial figure in determining Briatore’s sanction for race-fixing at last year’s Singapore Grand Prix, yet on Thursday he encouraged the shamed former Renault team principal to appeal against the penalty, making the extraordinary claim that ‘a year’s ban is enough’
 
 Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-1216183/Hes-lost-Blast-Bernie-Ecclestone-boss-warns-Youre-totally-touch.html#ixzz0SAZEUDcKVERSTAPPEN: ‘If I’d let Sainz past, dad would’ve kicked me in the nuts!’
 
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	26th September 2009, 09:11 #2Senior Member  
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 well done Martin Sorrell. bernie has lost it and is out of touch, and its good that someone has put him in his place. 
 
 flav is banned for life. he deserves it. end of story IMO.Congratulations Sebastian Vettel. Champion of the season of seasons.
 
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	26th September 2009, 12:00 #3Senior Member  
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 Well Bernie's view is supported for example by di Montezemolo, Gian Carlo Minardi, the head of Spains motor racing association and of course myself. 
 
 Why? Because there was no trial and it was a reactionary and capricious decision.
 
 And aside from Symonds disclosing that in the secret meeting of four - including "witness x" rumored to be Alonso - it was Piquet that raised the idea.
 
 And Piquet is given immunity? So you support that.
 
 Well all I have noticed from people like yourself here is never mind, lets just get Flavio.
 
 Next time there is a punishment goven out do not criticize the FIA because out of all of this, it is the issue that has had the least consideration.
 
 And just like the disgraceful $100 million fine levied at Mclaren it shows what the FIA is - not justice, but a power.
 
 This issue is not over. Maybe on appeal this unjust decision will be reversed and Flavio is going to take this to court.
 
 And those that are cheering this - where is your outrage against the Ferrari cheating in collusion with the FIA or the lack of punishment that Hamilton received for lying, not once but twice before the FIA?
 
 And how can you cheer this regardless? Do you hate formula 1 or perhaps you are just envious of a man that lives a lifetsyle you can just dream of?
 
 That Briatore's 20 years in this sport counted for nothing and the cowardice of his fellow team principles to voice support against a ban is not surprising because moral courage is not something evident these days.
 
 And those that view this in a childlike simplistic way [criticizing the punishment is the same as supporting whatever occurred at Marina Bay in 2008] - how can you cheer, not perhaps agree, but CHEER this about Flavio? Disgrace.
 
 As for Sorrell - he is someone that has always resented Bernie going back quite a while. Sorrell is forgetable however, because f1 was created and is where it is today not because of a man like him, but someone like Bernie.
 
 And to see people here with such a resentment for those that manage our beloved sport is appalling and unfathomable.
 
 I find it utterly distasteful.
 
 If I had to choose between those that are attacking or Flavio and Bernie, I would stand without equivocation with Briatore and Ecclestone. Their virtuous creations far outway any vices.Jense - Mclaren MP4-25 :DMonzaOne :D
 
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	26th September 2009, 12:13 #4Senior Member  
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 I could select many things from your typically pompous post to comment upon ('virtous creations'? Give me a break...) but this stands out the most. 'Utterly distasteful'? I would tend to reserve such comments for such things that are genuinely distasteful, i.e. not a businessman being forced out of a job for orchestrating a fix, but, for instance, the sort of thing that gets someone sentenced to a prison sentence. Originally Posted by Saint Devote Originally Posted by Saint Devote
 
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	26th September 2009, 12:25 #5Senior Member  
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 A prison sentence? In a civilized country that involves a proper trial. There is no comparison. Originally Posted by BDunnell Originally Posted by BDunnell
 
 You point a finger at Briatore in moral outrage - yet why do you not call for punishment to Piquet? And Piquet's immunity is something that IS illiciting lots of ccriticism from commentators as well as pitlane.
 
 The distaste I have is that the good in the sport that Flavio has done is totally ignored and one accusation results in what we have seen happen to Flavio and the cheering of it.
 
 When a member of the motor racing family makes a msitake you do NOT cheer. You commiserate and seek areas where you can support them.
 
 I am not a supporter of Piquet and I have criticized him as a driver - but he is also Nelson's son and I have respect for that, and he is young and perhaps impetuous.
 
 If Flavio is forgiven then Nelsihno should also be.
 
 This is a loss for motor racing and that is always sad in my world.Jense - Mclaren MP4-25 :DMonzaOne :D
 
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	26th September 2009, 12:25 #6Senior Member  
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 I agree with Bernie. I think that Flavio is a colourful figure and great team boss. Lifetime's ban is too much. Formula 1
 
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	26th September 2009, 12:45 #7Senior Member  
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 Lifetimes ban is too easy of a sentence for him. The guy tried to cheat and almost got away with it. Originally Posted by F1boat
					
				"signature room for rent" Originally Posted by F1boat
					
				"signature room for rent"
 
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	26th September 2009, 12:46 #8Senior Member  
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 Because without Piquets testimony, FIA couldn`t have done squat, genius. Originally Posted by Saint Devote Originally Posted by Saint Devote
 They let go of the smaller fish, to get the bigger one. With Success, I might add."signature room for rent"
 
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	26th September 2009, 12:53 #9Senior Member  
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 Of course I think Piquet should never be seen in F1 again either. He doesn't deserve to be there on merit, let alone anything else. Originally Posted by Saint Devote Originally Posted by Saint Devote
 
 'A mistake'? I would place what happened in Singapore this year in a slightly higher category than 'mistake'. Originally Posted by Saint Devote Originally Posted by Saint Devote
 
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 Exactly. Originally Posted by Garry Walker Originally Posted by Garry Walker
 
 Anyway good move from the CVC guy, he certainly decided that CVC has enough of Bernie protecting his friends instead of their business.
 I hope soon they kick Bernie out of his greedy position.
 
 Max will be gone, Flav is gone, Ron is gone when Bernie goes F1 can finally start a new life.Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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